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The Difference Between The Ages

It was only 2 years ago that Arsenal went a full season unbeaten, only four years ago we did the double, it's obvious to anyone with eyes that over the past ten years the glory days have well and truly been around the boys in red & white.

The amount of sucess we have encountered in the Wenger years has made a few Gooners a little bit complacent & too expectant, that we should win something every year. Discussions have been taking place on the Vital Arsenal forums and the older element (those who remember the dark times) are just happy to be playing great football, where as the younger generation demands sucess.

There's a real difference between the ages.

Let Vital Arsenal member FatOldDave give you his take on the subject.


It's quite noticeable that most young Arsenal fans are insistent that we must win things. That is understandable given the success the club has enjoyed over the last decade under Wenger.

The younger fans know no different.

For us older fossils, success is not the be all and end all. I have experienced just about every emotion following the Gunners, and there is no doubt the successes have been all the sweeter when you have the memories of losing big games and nearly being relegated. There was pleasure, even last season, watching the style and quality of football we produced when you have experienced watching dire wars of attrition week in and week out in years gone by.

For me now, I ask only that Wenger has a plan, and we appear to be moving forward. I am so convinced. I wouldn't sit here now and say we will win this or that. The beauty of football is there are so many variables involved, injuries, dodgy decisions, even another transfer window. I will say we have got the considerable challenge of overcoming the loss of Bergkamp, who was not only a great player himself, but made those around him better players too. Hleb, Rosicky, and Fabregas are the players who must make our game work, and the signs are good. The arrival of Gallas and Baptista should strengthen us but we may have to show some patience while they find their place in the set-up.

I guess I'm just using far too many words to say don't burden yourself with expectations of success that may not arrive this year. Let our triumphs be a pleasant, and exhilarating, surprise.

Article submitted by FatOldDave

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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday September 12 2006

Time: 3:26PM

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I have been supporting Arsenal since 1983/4 but I think to win a game these days is more crucial than it used to be. there is additonal pressure, financial and sporting. Most importanly, expectation levels have increased and when you acheive less than is generally expected then thats what feels bad. Once you re-adjust your expectation levels then things dont seem as bad. But we are fine at the moment. I am happy with the squad we have at Arsenal - what a wonderful set of many clubs in the world are as happy with their squad as we can be? Not many.
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12/09/2006 15:51:00

We're playing great football. The way we pass the ball and find the spaces are amazing... But why on the hell do we never have a ******* shot??? If we shoot when we should instead of passing, we the title of this headline would be something like: Another unbeaten season for the gunners? If we shot when we should have, we would be top of the table.
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12/09/2006 16:00:00

wer playing some amazing football and not getting what we deserve. a win. this year could be a very good season as long as we keep up the standard of football which is geting better game by game and its important we make theses performancese WINS. nice one FOD
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12/09/2006 16:04:00

I think you'll find the same scenario at most clubs, especially when you have so much success in such a short time span.
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12/09/2006 16:36:00

Good aticle....I too remember the dark days lol....I went to my Highbury for the first time in 1963 and waited until 1970 to see them win their first piece of silverware , the Inter Cities Fairs Cup...then the Double in 1971...then the F.A. Cup in 1979....then the Gerge Graham era brought a few Milk Cups and finally the League title in 1989 and 1991....a few cups in the 90's but no title again until 1998....the rest we know lots of big gaps when you had to be patient. On a different subject, I think there has been something said behind the scenes about the "shooting" situation....strikes me as strange that they had 17 shots against Middlesboro ??....
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12/09/2006 16:48:00

As I've said on an Arsenal blog, this team appears this close to being unbelievable. Just some tiny bits here and there that need urgent sorting and we are well on our way.
I became an Arsenal fan towards the end of Ian Wright's career, so I'm sure I'm in the group you're talking about, the one spoilt by success in Wenger's years. What you say may well be true, but you have to realise that we are not the same team we used to be. We became big boys, we play very big boys football, we have just moved into a mega big boys stadium, and when you are a big boy, you win stuff. We expect Paul Tergat (I mention him coz he is my countryman) to do well in the London marathon when he takes part, because he wins these things and is a champion. Our expectation of Arsenal is simply a reflection of what Arsenal FC have become; winners.
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12/09/2006 17:10:00

Welcome to the fossil club. You've never lived until you've travelled to Norwich on a February evening and been thoroughly outplayed by a team including Graham Paddon, who scored in our 2-0 defeat, with 18,000 tractor boys in yellow and green "oooh- aaarrrrr" ing at you. "Kids these days don't know they're born".
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12/09/2006 17:45:00

Agree FOD and FAB, this is why the FA Cup has a magic to it, from Spurs winning it as a non league team in 1902 to the last upset of a lower team knocking off a big EPL club and every upset, struggle or giant killing that has happened in between. It is this history and tradition that has been lost in the week in week out hohum that has become football today and the expectancy of youth that has risen from it. Excellent read.
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13/09/2006 01:19:00

I am also in the old fossil category and agreed totally that expectations to win something every season is now so high driven by the pressure of being a commercial business. If you compare the style and quality back then to the level now Arsene has introduced, I can understand because they have probably not experienced the highs and lows that we have experienced.
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13/09/2006 03:52:00

I see where you going radar. But we should have had even more than that! But its not the actual number of shots that are worring me, its where we (dont) shoot from
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13/09/2006 15:23:00


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