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Spurs Get A Reality Check

In what can only be described as a beer fueled discussion on the Vital Arsenal forum, one member asked the question, 'Do you think Spurs will get relegated?.

As funny as that would be, it's not going to happen, but The Prof charts the reasons why Spurs are suffering and the problems they will encounter in the coming months.

I think that Spurs are discovering how hard it is to break into a top four team, as usual the Spurs arrogance last season was based on absolutely nothing, no trophies, no convincing wins against big sides and crucially no balls.

This season it is going to be even harder for them; they have Europe to deal with, higher expectations and much more games. Spurs really thought that just having one decent season qualified them as top four material and somehow on the way to surpassing Arsenal. To win anything in the Prem, you have to firstly beat Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, I don't see Spurs doing that anytime soon, unfortunately I don't see them getting relegated either.

I just see this as a timely reality check, last season they had absolutely everything going for them to get fourth place, our Premiership form was bad, we were distracted by Europe, they only had to play about 5 games in comparison to our 352, yet they still bottled it, I personally don't think they will get a better chance and I also think their final day f**k up exposed the difference between us and them - we have the mentality and capability to cross that all important line and become winners, Spurs don't - and that's not even my opinion, that's a fact based on stats.

So for Spurs, relegation no, back to a mediocre mid table team with a superiority complex, a very real possibility.

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Date:Wednesday September 20 2006

Time: 1:20AM

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I have got to agree with everything you have written. Spurs feel that by finishing fifth and buying every English player under 22 that they are a top four team and a shoe in for the champions league next season. Funny then that even with all their first team squad available except for Aaron Lennon they are languishing in the bottom half of the table with only a win against bottom team Sheffield United to show for all the money they spent. Didier Zakora must be cursing his moment of madness when he passed up the chance to join Arsenal and instead decided to join the third best team in North London (I'm sure our ladies could beat this Spurs side!) Champions league.....Your having a LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goonerkitt
i admire the spirit of the piece, but if i am to be honest, we are but one point better off than the spuds from the lame. It's too early to fling mud about, though i should very much like to point out that it is within the capacity of quite a few teams to have a season exceeding expectations, only to encounter a situation hindering their process the following one. This may happe to spuds, OR they may recover. What leads a gooner such as I to think that they will fare worse than the arse is that they appear to be falling short in their performances this season. We have turnedin good performances in all goames, minus a finishing result of a goal.That will come, it did on sunday. Can the trotts do likewise? we shall have to see how events unfold... t'will be interrrestink, comrades... »»Arsene Knows««
I don't see them being able to beat chelski, manu, l'pool and us to make a title challenge, but i think they showed last year that they're good enough to grind out wins against most of the rest of the premiership (without playing decent football). This is something we've struggled to do recently as we haven't been clinical enough in our finishing. I think that this is about to change...
the departure of carrick from white hart lane is makin all de difference...
I have read this four times now and I am still dumbfounded only a couple of hints of a smart arsed comment, so I will also try to be objective. Firstly I don't think there is a Spurs fan who thinks we are top four material, the top end expectations are to improve on last season, with the majority (98.5%) happy to take fifth, improved cup runs and a decent spell in EUFA. It is quite correct that we do need to beat top 4 and this will bring confidence needed to take the next step. Three years ago a 2-0 loss to Everton was par for the course, now it is seen as a disaster. You cannot go from an average of 8-9th? to top 4 in a season unless you are given a couple of hundred million quid and the directive to make a loss. Consistancy is the key, last year it was in results, this year it has to be about the final positions, 2 years of EUFA and we maybe ready for Champs League. The other area where we need to contend is in gate receipts and with Man Utd pulling in more than double the capacity of WHL, this will need to be addressed to maintain any long term attack on the top 4. It will also help us compete with new signings. I will use the Ashes as my final point, record crowds lasy year, England won and the games in Australia have been sold out for months. There has been a resurgency of the sport in the UK. England will probably go out to Australia and get flogged but the year or so that the urn was Englands helped out everybody, both national teams, county sides and fans/the game in neutral countries. Think how much better a win at WHL would be after a loss to Spurs at home or vice versa.
TeddyLyon, you obviously dont read the comments over at vital spurs because its probably somewhere in the region of 50-50 with regards spurs fans that think they are a top 4 team. I have visited that site just once & the delusions of grandeur were rife. One fan actually named several clubs (I cannot remember them all) but "portsmouth, villa, newcastle & arsenal" were 4 of them & then he went on to state that spurs are better than all those teams!! Now obviously being biased I think arsenal are a much better club & team than spurs & again there are several reasons for me to believe that. Please can you give me just one real reason backed up by a real stat that would make spurs better than arsenal at this current point in time, other than just the fact you love that club??
Ashburton Gooner
Great article and accurate. And TeddyLyon good response. I will take debate with you on one thing. You say most scum dont think your top 4 material. Yet if you look at literally hundreds of posts they are saying how there going to be overtaking the great arsenal and getting into the top4 this year. What a load of nonsense. Youve actually averaged more like 10th for the last 8-9 years excluding last year. There are many teams who have been averaging between 5th and 8th for alot longer and still havent managed to get even close to the top4. So why are so many spurs fans so arrogant that after one season, with hardly any games that they can do the job. I respect guys like you, but so many are arrogant and disrespectful of what being top4 and having won the title actually means. Maybe if they could gain some respect instead of living in a world of idealism it may help with so many of the idiots calling for Jols head already.
To add to that. Right now on your site i quote "the mantra is that with arron lennon were only one winger away from the title". I mean are they totally diluded. Get real.
you know i believe football goes round in circles, spurs had a good season last year, but they will go back to being a mediorce average prem team around 10th :)
No need to shout Cockeril. And after visiting the Vital Spurs site I found that there are not many confident fans, infact most are pretty down beat. The difference between the two teams this season is that Arsenal have threatened to batter teams and have just been a little shy in front of goal, and at Old Trafford on Sunday we showed what is to come, whereas all Spurs have offered is poor poor football, which is why we Gooners were partying like animals on Sunday whilst you were boo'ing your team off for the second home game in a row.
lol cockeril is the typical scum. I cannot wait until the end of the season so i can see what he has to say.
Hoof! Spuds the new Wimbledon? Basically if you fling enough mud, some will stick, Spuds were long, long overdue a good season. West Ham finished 7th and were relegated next season, Ipswich finished fifth and were relegated next season, Forest finished 3rd in 95 and barely stayed up in 96. The Prem has a big band of mediocre clubs, Spuds being one of them, and one day they were bound to top that mini league. I have also noticed Jol doesn't rate English players mentality. Look at his most recent signings, Chimbonda, Mido, Assou Etoko, Ghaly, Malbranque, Zokora. He is trying to copy Wenger's French/African model, because English players in general do not perform on the big stage.
Little Dutch
Carrick going has disrupted our progress!! lol, one player for gods sake! So you dont think Bergkamp, Cole, Pires & Campbell going has disrupted our progress you muppet! By the way its 1 point ahead of you & a game in hand. If you lose to Liverpool you will struggle to make the top 6. Chelski, man usa, arsenal, liverpool, everton & even portsmouth will be way clear of you. As for playing us off the park you must have been watching different games to anyone else. At s***e hart lane you were better first half we were better second & it was spuds hanging on for a draw. At highbury you were the better team but then you were playing our reserves. The minute henry & cesc came on you were all over the place & once again hanging on for the draw!! I notice on the spuds vital site you said you deserved fourth place?? I think you will find the team that finishes fourth deserves it & that wasnt you despite the fact you set a new record for the least amount of games in a season!
Ashburton Gooner
Why get embroiled in this so early on in the season?
What have you got against English Players LITTLE dutch? You sound racist??????????
THES ARE THE STATS FROM UTD GAME: UTD.................ARSE 18 Goal Attempts 14 10 On Target 7 8 Off Target 7 0 Hit Woodwork 0 4 Offsides 4 10 Corners 5 11 Fouls 11 This is your only win and you were lucky your keeper was man of the match and UTD still had an off day! YOU DREAMERS!! lets see how you do at the shrine???
Wake up and start getting a grip and realise your time is over and move over for the lily white army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
cockeril, u have indeed surpassed yourself & do sound exactly like a real c**k. Where is there even the slightest hint of racism in what little dutch says?? English players dont perform on the biggest stage & thats a fact backed up by years of mediocrity when we are all told how wonderful the england team is!
Ashburton Gooner
What lily white army?? Do you mean Fulham, the mighty team that gave the spuds a footballing lesson with their reserve team on sunday!! Liverpool are gonna wipe the floor with your bunch of no hopers. Dreamers you are, but then thats all you have!
Ashburton Gooner
I think somebody so keen on all things English should learn to speak it first, e/g your spelling of COCKeril!
Little Dutch
hey fellow gunners, lets believe dis idiot for a minute, ok cockeril, we believe you, we were lucky on sunday, we didn't play well, but somehow got the result, and it wont last too long, and u said the scum army is gonna overtake us very soon.. but do you even have one reason to support this claim, just give me ONE REASON why you are better than us? lets forget the history of both the clubs, (anyways u dun have a history since the last 40 odd years), but just give me ONE REASON that says you are better than us?
"ENGLISH PLAYERS DON`T PERFORM ON THE BIG STAGE" Is a racist comment what has nationality got to do with performance! Liverpool won the champions league as did UTD with the core of "ENGLISH TALENT" What have ARSE won on the big stage with there none English side?! SWEET F.A! What have Holland, Spain, Ivory coast, Tongo, Germany, Cameroon,Swiss,Sweden,Belarus,etc won internationaly, same as the ARSE! So don`t even go there and keep you racism in check!! Do yourself a favour and check out the stats of fulham game and you will see that fulham had 11 players behind the ball all game and it is something you arse fans have been whinging about all season!!!!!! So move over you time is up!! 262.1 reasons say so!! shambles on and OFF PITCH!!!!!!!!!
luckys... We are going to surpass the Arse! Henry and Fabregas, aside none of your players would get into our side. On paper we are better and Financially........ well lets not go there again! It must be so painfull??
in the last ten years, we have had just one manager, who we hope will be here forever, and u scums keep changing managers like how jose keeps rotating his players.. look at ur squad, robinson doesent even come close to lehmann, and ur entire defence put together isnt even have as good as toure or gallas, and ur midfield, lol why am i even bothering to make dese comparisions, you ppl are *****, all these years u've just been jealous of us, you havent won a major trophy for decades, you can't get a win over arsenal, which im sure kills u and all da scums deep had da chance last season to be better than us and u bottled it big time, u dun know wt it takes to be in the big league, all these years uve jsut been like a annoying little brother who's just been jealous of us, you're so frustrated cuz u just cant get out of our shadows, and u talk about us being lucky vs united, well u havent even had tat much luck against united to beat them once in all dese years, you cant even protect a 3-0 lead (lol remember tat haha i so loved it), hell you can't even beat a ten men team at home, or maybe u just need luck everytime to get a win. no wonder sol left the lane for us, 40 odd years and ur still waiting, dun be suprised if king joins us too in a few years after all those years of winless frustration at the lane, and there you even know all the facts and figures bout our profits and turnover, man u follow arsenal way too much, cuz u know every little thing about us, and despite all the debt and loans and da money we have to pay this year for our stadium, we will still make more money than you, we have better players, better fans, better manager, better stadium, and everything about is better than you, and all these are facts, if u just want to blindly go on and say that ur time is over, the white army is coming, then you can blindly keep saying whatever you want to, it doesent make a difference to us, we dun even consider u as our rivals anymore, its chelsea, united, liverpool who are our main rivals, you dun even matter to us, so fellow gunners, lets just ignore this idiot's comments, let him say whatever he wants to, all he is doing is making a joke of himself here, u have to understand, decades of frustration for them, and add to that all our success in all these years, the last 40 odd years havent been a good time to be a scum supporter lol, so dream on losers, you're never gonna be as great as us..
lol haha yeah you are better in every ascept, you will suprass everything, someday, you are going to do do everything that we are doing right now.. and all my fellow gooners, lets just leave him alone in his misery now, if i was a scum supporter, i'd be as *****ed as him :d..
Did I hit a nerve luckys? Let me ask you a question, Where do you think you will finish in the league? A number please not higher than Spurs.
lol, i told you loner, we ain't gonna a say a thing about whatever you say from now, so you can come here and right bull*****, that only you are gonna read, as i see the scums dun have too many supporters here (and everywhere) lol..
You lot are so Fickle you worshipped a former SPURS captain who did the dirty on you and left. King is going nowhere and you know it so keep dreaming about our squad. There is more chance of Henry going to SPURS but we don`t need ARSE cast offs!
cockeril, please scroll up and read the comments of TeddyLyon, a fellow spurs fan of yours with a much firmer grasp of reality and much less venom in his thoughts.
jakeb I have read the coments and agree with some of the points to a degree. We maybe or maybe not be ready to challenge for 4th spot. It depends if we realisel our potential? We were 1 point of last season. We are very close to beeing better than the ARSE and will overtake them if not this season then maybe next. Liverpool have had a disasterous start and Arse are 1 point above us. Teddylyon might be a gooner in disguise?
Just preparing you charming people for the facts. Its going to be sweet, start thinking of your excuses.......
"cock" - eril, dude 1st thing u need a psychiatrist, 2nd thing u need to know the difference between fantasy and reality. Its one thing being passionate about your club and going all the way for them. Every gooner on this forum is more passionate than u are about the best club in the league and the world which is ARSENAL , but none of us has lost touch with reality. U need to relax, grab a bottle of beer and drown ur misery of probably finishing mid-table this season. I give it to you that ull have a shot at the UEFA cup , but no more than that. You'll have a good young side, but not good enough to beat THE ARSENAL. Anyways, as far as the debt goes my misled fool, 262.1m quid of debt of which 125m pounds will be wiped offf in the next 3 years through the Highbury Square sales. 2nd- the revenue we generate through emirates will be close to 183% that of highbury... so i dont think its gonna be such a problem. I dont see the reason why your getting all hyper when we are not. We trust the chairman and the coach .. unlike the spuds that u are ... so u can take a *****. Cheers to the best club in europe fellow gooners - ARSENAL 4 LIFE!!!
I am a psychiatrist!, Thats why I have messed all your minds. We will talk soon girls!!
Firstly cockeril, you are a bit of an idiot, o.k? Right, Liverpool's CL winning team contained two english players, Gerrard stopped performing after the group stages (his goal stats back this up). Arsenal went 10 games without conceding a goal in the CL last year, Sol played in two of those, Cole played in none. Cole and Campbell played in all 3 games where we conceded goals. One must only look at the England team to prove they don't perform on the biggest stage, Lampard, Gerrad, Robinson and other so called "world class" players got shown up in the WC. You should look at your post, you say my, entirely measured comment backed up by stats is racist, you then go on to mention a lot of countries, saying they have won nothing. If you know what the word hypocrisy meant, I'd use it against you, but I scarcely believe you are even able to speak without dribbling. All I'll add is that the sides with predominantly English players last season; Sunderland, West Brom, Aston Villa, Birmingham, Man City, Boro and Spuds. What did they win? I agree with you about one thing, King is going nowhere.
Little Dutch
U dum***** ... u havent messed with our minds .. infact you've made a fool of yourself and emphasized the fact that all spuds fans are dimwits like you.
Was started by one of you goon members!!!!!!!!!!
Is this Cockeril the same guy from the cartoons in the Gooner magazine? Liverpool had the same amount of English players in the champions league final as Arsenal? you couldnt come 4th when it was your only focus from January until may? youve spent nearly £30m in the transfer market and still a 19 year old is your only hope of winning games? pound for pound your the worst team in premiership history even the likes of newcastle, everton and leeds have played champions league and you salivate over a uefa place through league position for the 1st time in 14 years! Sad and seriously deluded!
I am glad to see that the Spurs fans soil your site as much as ours, we were starting to take all the attention personally!
Look who's talking!
Little Dutch
blimey that spud cockeril been smelling some funny substances again, he prob needs to go lay down and rest and then prob wake upto reality. Spurs will not finish in a top 10 finish, we beat united and they boo off their team against fulham... lets face it, they have always been the jealous neighbour, always looking over the fence to see what we're upto... do i care ?: nope, i just laugh my socks off at their feeble attempts.. i mean you only have to look at Jol and think is he SHREK in disguise !
hey guys leave dis cockenil alone, this guy needs help, the problem is, even if we remind him of the actual stats between arsenal and spurs, he thinks we are mocking him and da scums, but u cant blame him for that, because the stats of the hisotry of spurs are so crap, that it seems like we are making fun of the beginning, i was laughing at his comments, but now i feel sorry for him.. and just for the record, we let him go cuz it was time to give our youngsters a chance, and we idolised him for what he did for us in his time here, and what he achieved in 5 years is more than all the spurs players put together in the last 40 years lol..
It must be hard for the spuds fans, after all when your north london neighbours see you as such little threat that with 4 premiership games remaining (including the spuds match) & being behind on points in the league they are still prepared to send out a weakened team & even then you have to cheat to get a draw, you just know your c**p. Its got to be a hard thing to take in. Cockeril seen as you are so interested in stats here are two very important ones for you: Man utd 1 v 0 Spuds, Man utd 0 v 1 Arsenal. Now you can quote how many shots, corners or w***s you had as much as you like, but at the end of the day those above stats are the only ones that matter. Its why having played a game less we are as per usual sitting above you in the league having had our worst premiership start ever. The "Mighty Spuds" are going one way & it isn't upwards.
Ashburton Gooner
Spurs wont go down, but they wont place high !!! they are going to have a hard season !!!
LD, I'll stay off your site if you agree to stay off the PL champions'. Do you agree?
Well no, as long as the Chelscum site writes articles that involve Arsenal (as happens frequently) I will comment. What I won't- and don't- do, is vandalise the Chelscum site with reference to non Arsenal matters.
Little Dutch
haha harsh on them but its reality everything is true. their in europe now and its going to be much harder. their finally realising how hard it is to cope with playing so much football and trying to ahve qualities such as the big four.
Just face it scummers,you classless muppetts have always had chips on your shoulders cos everyone knows SPURS were the first Successful/Glamour side of England (1st E\cup,Double etc) We know you hate that soooo much ! Check our legends out GREAVES,MACKAY,GILZEN,HODDLE,GASCOIGNE,LINEKER to name but a few. Your legends : A.SUNDERLAND (NICE HAIR) STOREY (CON) DONKEY (DONKEY/DRUNK) KEOWN (SURELY NOT HUMAN) MERSON (DRUNK/COKE HEAD/WIFE BEATER/GAMBLER SMITH (UGLY *****) P.GROVES (YOUR BEST PLAYER EVER) So glad to hear about your finanical report today,don't believe the club line,you lot are in the ***** ! Can't wait for the day when the name ARSEnal is wiped off this planet (it's comin) and no one will remember you! Few of us took a look at Highbury the other day,so good to see your 'Home' in ruins.To celeberate we all had a good ***** over it !! COYS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
P.s That picture of ARSENE on here,wud you really let him look after your kids ?!
Ashburton and the Beast, funny between my first post and now when I return there a 45 odd threads between Arsenal and Spurs fans, this is what you are refering to. Love the rivalry but none of it is real world, so I will stick by 98.5%. This is/was a well balanced and thought out article and deserved a better response than the typical Jol is up Wenger's grannie or whatever the fashionable sledge of the day is.
"All sucessfull british side sides have English Backbone" I notice no one mentioned UTD success! BECHAM, NEVILLES, COLE, SHERINGHAM.. Who won UEFA`S most valuable player 2004 GERRARD! 1999 was BEKHAM. Lverpool are the most succesfull british side in history, 8 trophy`s in europe do any of you do any of you air heads think they did it without ENGLISH talent!!! DIPSTICKS!! FURTHER MORE.. ONLY SPANISH SIDES HAVE WON MORE TROPHY`S IN EUROPE THAN ENGLISH AND THAT IS ONLY BY 1 AND THAT WILL CHANGE WHEN CHELSKI OR UTD WIN IT THIS SEASON! BUT OFCOURSE YOU ARSEWIPES WOULD NOT KNOW THAT AFTER ALL YOU HAVE NOT WON ANYTHING IN EUROPE!!! My point about the different nationalities I mentioned notabily all in the arses squad have not won jack ***** internationally so do you think they are not up to the big stage. SO STOP DREAMING AND GET A REALITY CHECK ARSE ARE DOOMED!!!! COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its all gone quite at the emirates!! Your not singing anymore!!!!!!
Actually, in the 70s and 80s very few of Liverpool's players were English, come to think of it, none of them were. It's a different time now, how many of Utd's youth products since 1996 have made the England side? As for UEFA Awards, they are utterly meaningless based only on how much a player's ego is inflated. The fact is, English sides have begun to fare much better in Europe since the removal of the 3 foreigners rule. Prior to that, Utd could do nothing in the CL, because they could not play the likes of Schmeichel, Cantona, Kanchelskis etc together at the same time. Gerrard did not perform in the knockout stages for Liverpool, Gerrard is shown up on the international stage because i)he can't handle big games (look at his scoring record at OT, Highbury, Stamford) and ii) he doesn't have the humbler Alonso alongside him doing all the work. Who was the most successful side in Europe last season of the British teams? The one with the least English players in it. I beg to differ that our players have won nothing internationally, Henery and Gallas have, Gilberto has, Cesc has won a couple of youth tournaments for Spain. None of those players are English. This is just a fact and one you don't have an answer to beyond mindless insults. I pity you and your inferior brain. Anyway, I'll be writing an article on this matter today, feel; free to read it (without your mum's help if possible).
Little Dutch
we dont need to. your below us. you have been for tens of years. youve won nothing for just as many. Acheivements say it all. lets us banter with our rivals. not some scummy below tenth team.
i love the way you have to go back to the beginning of the premiership to pull out something succesful. says alot. When everyone ie broactasers, media, fans, talk of the top4. Are you in it? no your just a nobody team. ever head of G12 ? the elite of world football ? you in that ? second most sucesful team EVER in the premier league. Deal with it and try and harness your green eyed jealousy
audere est facere!1 COYS
actually LEEDS have been more consistent in europe than spuds have.. i think is it sad when Spuds come here with their big green eyes.. you can't compare your foreign manager to ours, class is far superior, and frank arneson left you for a bigger london club... infact you have to say spuds in london rankings are way down the list, even fulham are higher than you in the league, and you play them this weekend ? another 3pts lost ?
What planet you on PUREGOLD????
Cockeril, Leeds have reached a Champion's League semi final in this millenium......what have your boys done??
Cockeril, that was a post in latin. Why you're a disgrace to your culture and heritage. How dare you disrespect the English language with your fancy dan, ancient languages? Who cares if Latin really is the backbone of our current language, you have no right to spit on the English language in such a way. Sacre bleus.
Little Dutch
Look what happened to them they had massive debts. oh...........Just like the ARSE!! sorry girls but its true!! 262.1million!!!!!!! Youre heading for free fall and no on is going to catch you. unless you get an abromovich... he he. Little dutch who`s HENEREY??
I am actually a big dutchman for your information. But appreciate and respect English culture and values.
The year was 1987 and charlie nicholas has just scored for us to give us an emphatic 2-1 win at the lane. As we sung our hearts out at the away end and of course stuck two fingers up to our beloved enemy walking away I wondered if things could get any better - I mean could the feeling get any better.. nearly 20 years have now passed and the answer to that question was clearly yes but I just want to say that 20years is a long time and in that whole period our dominance over the spuds has become a way of life - your like the second class neighbour - the annoyin mindless chav to our distinct gentlemanly adult - you havent beat us in oh so long that must feel so degrading and depressing. Youve had at least 8 managers in that period and Im sure you all thought Jolly Jol (barry eastenders?) was the saviour - dream on chavs - cant wait for you to visit our wonderful new stadium and we look forward to your lower mid table position this year...Oh and get back to ur own forum eh? te ta
What??? Your foreign as well??? That's it, I'm so blinded with fury, how dare you as a non Englishman try and have an input on British Society? Your besmirching our culture, values, heritage, blah, blah, blah. You display all the hallmarks of a paranoid schizophrenic, get help.
Little Dutch
Amor patriae
So hang on COCKeril, what your aying is foreign people can have an appreciation of English culture and values? So what is actually your point?
Little Dutch
cockeril is actually martin jol lol
shouldnt you be training your first team rather than waste time on ur pc in the office?? chris hughton is combing his affro and washin the dishes whilst u mess around in chat rooms - it wont do you know..
Good to see your ENGLISH is improving Little Dutchman.
Jol doesn't need to be on the training ground for his useless shower. He issues one instruction at the beginning of every session, "HOOF!" He then goes home and leaves the boys to it.
Little Dutch
Firstly, I'm not Dutch. Secondly, I'm qualified to teach English. (Not bad for a 22 year old). The 'your' as opposed to 'you're' you see in an above post was a deliberate attempt at irony. You know, when people like you espouse the belief that foreign people somehow neutralise English culture, yet cannot use the language properly. But I guess that was a little too subtle for somebody of your limited cranial capacity.
Little Dutch
anybody agree that paul robinson is about as commanding in his own box as graham norton>?
In the world cup we lost on penaltys because of the fat legged one...bring back jamesy I say
Cockeril I don't intend to add to the racist tone of this forum, but I'm wondering why a Dutchman would choose to follow Tottenham rather than a team that plays a more attacking, Dutch style of Football?
I say bring back anyone!
i think jake has a fair point, i am forsure Dennis would say the same thng, apart from Davids and the fat Skrek lookalike not many dutch people at the Lane to speak of... Let us resume this ocnversation come saturday night.. the ONLy london team lower than spuds is charlton.. westham and fulham are above you, which is how the season will probably finish. and next year Palace might over take you !
This Dazaan guy, so after you saw our home in ruins, and had a ***** about it, you must have wondered who owns the new grand edifice up the road no? And wondered why they had "Arsenal" on their stadium, no? And seeing as Highbury is in ruins, you must be wondering where you're gonna play The Arse away, no?
i love the wat spurs fans, always talk about how sucsesful, they wer 50/40 years ago, its popostrous, live in the now, and in the now, you have not been to a champions league final, you have not finished in the top 4 for the last 10 years, yu have not gone a whole season unbeaten, YOU HAVE NOT won 4 FA Cups, in the last 10 years all you can boast about is winning the league cup, and finishg a point behind us last season, move on, go argue with some fans, in the relegation zone, coz there in the same situation as you! and i have to say COCKeril, you speak such utter rubbish, i am almost certain, you have a head injury!
getting to the CL final isnt success......10 years from now we all forget 2nd place, arsenal have been more successful but with huge debts,internal problems with players not happy at arsenal (cole, reyes, pires, campbell) and with the improvement of other clubs chelsea and liverpool....i cant see glory days in respect to the league happening for another 15 years
This comes from a fan who's team waited 50 years to be crowned Champions. Make no mistake buddy, over the next couple of years, our team will be far superior to yours....mark my words!!

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