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West Ham v Arsenal: A Fans View

After a crushing late Marlon Harewood goal, there was more than an opinion or two on the Vital Arsenal forum.

Here's what some of our members thought.

Professor Calculus…….

During the course of the season some decisions will go for us others against us, but yet again we simply didn't take our chances, it's that simple. If we had taken our chances on Wednesday and today then we would be feeling good about two wins in the bag, as it stands we got nothing (ok a point) from Wednesday`s game and again nothing from today's game.

It's hard to take but it's all self inflicted, the negatives are that we are an attacking side who can't score, the positives are that our football is sound and we are creating more than enough chances. But to lose to West Ham who are just poor, they were there to be beaten today.


Yes, we should beat teams like West Ham. Yes, we lost some games last season to poor sides. There are patterns developing ...BUT IT'S ONLY NOVEMBER! United will not be all conquering this season, although they are doing very well despite not replacing the likes of Keane and Van Nistelrooy. Chelsea are clearly vulnerable on occasion as this afternoon has shown. We are not out of it yet, but next Sunday has just become a massive game. If we are serious contenders we have to bounce back and turn over the Micky's next week. Keep the faith. The future is red!


We were an absolute disgrace yesterday. How Wenger has the right to act like that I do not know. We went onto that pitch thinking that just by being there we will win, and we all know that west ham always want to beat us more than anyone else, and it showed. We were second to every ball, Henry was nowhere, and it could have been 3 or 4 had it not been for the Immense Toure yet again.

I was ashamed last night, and it made me sick that Wenger and the Fabregas have to be such bad losers...... Gallas showed heart and that defeat really got to him, but least he kept his mouth shut....

We all need to grow up, and start playing football again.


I had a feeling yesterday would go that way, part of me thought that after Wednesday the team would come out wanting to prove a point, the more realistic side of my brain told me they would be down because after playing the football they did on Wednesday and not winning they are starting to wonder how an earth they will win games.

I feel we don't have a plan B, I was annoyed that Wenger took off RVP and brought on Eboue, and then Flamini. Why not put on Theo who could change a game?

Don't get me wrong, I love the football we play, but I feel there is a time and a place, you need ugly results to instil confidence, get an ugly goal, then play the nice stuff, but make sure you get the lead you need first.

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The Journalist

Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday November 6 2006

Time: 6:40PM

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I wonder where you lot will finish this year? midtable? top half
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06/11/2006 18:46:00

I've deleted your other mindless crap but I'll let this one stand. Care to make a wager? I'll bet you you don't finish above us. Loser has to wear a Arsenal shirt to a Spurs game or a Spurs Shirt to an Arsenal got any bottle?
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06/11/2006 18:48:00

Well? You seem to have quiet all of a sudden!
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06/11/2006 18:54:00

All mouth and no trousers. P***y!
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06/11/2006 19:09:00

LOL how true, spurs fans... we can finish mutch higher perhaps third or even 2nd, and 10 points can always be taken back, its far from over.
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06/11/2006 19:21:00

it was the best ever arsenal team after beating mighty Reading recently!!!
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06/11/2006 19:24:00

Ok Mr common, let's have a look at the form guide. Here is where we have finished the last 10 years... 3/1/2/2/2/1/2/1/2/4. Perhaps you would care to input your mobs positions during the same ten years....come on lad its a computer. I know you'd run out of ink if you had to use a pen!
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06/11/2006 19:26:00

Is it a bird,is it a plane no it's - Rocky7 Editor-in-chief!
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06/11/2006 19:48:00

Win our game in hand and we would go 3rd.....disaster!
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06/11/2006 20:20:00

sorry rockhead i had disappeared a minute had things to do you know (sorry forgot this is your life). How about we change that wager to the victor in the next spurs v arsenal match seen as though you currently lie somewhat fortunately above us in the league
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06/11/2006 20:27:00

So pleased to see some common sense put forward on this site. You're just the sort of people to offer comfort and counselling to poor, frazzled Arse-in Vengeful. What a bitter, brittle little man he's showing himself to be. Iceman, you're bang on. Win one and you're third, hardly reason for the big snail-breeder to go spare on Sunday. Because, if northwilts is right, and club l'arse are a team with a decade of near-achievement under their belt, then Pardew has every reason to go bananas like he did when lowly West Ham won under such dramatic circumstances. He owes an apology to all of you for losing it.
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06/11/2006 20:34:00

I really like PUREGOLD's comments on the game, its just pure gold ;) no, really top class comments that sm up everything really !!!!
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06/11/2006 20:42:00

He doesnt need to apologise to us, he's a legend who made a mistake. It would be nice if he made peace with Pardew seen as it was West Ham who crippled your season at the last hurdle. The decade of so called underachievment has come at a cost of less than £5million per season, what has your decade produced and at what cost? Well done for beating CFC for the 1st time in 16 years, every dog has its day, it a pity youve still got fleas and your frothing at the mouth with Rabies.
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06/11/2006 20:52:00

Now,now iceyman what's up? had a bad week?
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06/11/2006 21:04:00

Ive had worse...sometime last century...07.11.1999 in fact.....the last time we lost to spu*s :)
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06/11/2006 21:20:00

Why change the wager? You have been here spouting off constantly saying how we'll finish mid table and you'll finish above us, so either put your money where your mouth is or sod off. Anything can happen in a single match, I know that, I'm not stupid, but I also know that our class easily outweighs anything you can offer. NLD are a gamble (even though lokking at your pathetic record you wouldn't think so) and I'm not prepared to gamble on wearing a Spurs shirt, but I KNOW for a fact that we will finish above you, and on that I'm prepapred to bet. So whaddya say? Either you believe your hype and you make the bet or you'll run off with your tail between your legs because you know the truth and the truth is you're just not good enough to out do us over a full season.
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06/11/2006 21:22:00

He aint got the minerals Rocky!
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06/11/2006 21:38:00

rocky. You claim not to be stupid, incorrect statement please don't tell lies you aren't fooling anybody. Maybe we should call you pinoccio from now on. iceman please clear off. you are trying to get involved in something you don't understand (no im not talking about singing the alphabet, i know you struggle after c) im talking about football. i think if you look we aint far behind you on the rich club list despite your years in the c league and us not being in europe. only 3 places on the rich list i wonder why that is?
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06/11/2006 21:47:00

Stop spouting off and either accept the bet or admitt we're better than you.
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06/11/2006 21:53:00

who cares about the rich list? your telling me I cant do ABC but at least I can spell sense! All I want to know is do you have the minerals to take the bet? A simple yes or no will do.
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06/11/2006 21:56:00

Ha ha ,this is better than Goodfellas.
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06/11/2006 22:15:00

Looks like he's pussied out!!
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06/11/2006 22:54:00

Has anyone seen that scene in snatch, where two guys attempt to hold up Vinnie Jones's character with a replica gun, and Vinnie totally calls them on it? That's kind of how mr. NONCEsense looks now.
Little Dutch
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07/11/2006 06:24:00

The fact that youve got replica written down the side of your gun and ive got desert eagle 5.0 written down the side of
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07/11/2006 07:47:00

wow my comments got headlined !!! i just re-read what i typed and was impressed i sounded so articulate about the game ! but it is true, United always had games where they played badly and won games, sign of a good team. we need to play well, but you need to make sure you win by scoring and scoring at whatever costs. all this pretty stuff trying to walk the ball in the net is lovely if you are 2-0 up. i would take the bet btw Rocky, except i need some spurs fans with balls to take me on. i also like the bet, £50 on who finishes further in each domestic competition.. any takers ?
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07/11/2006 14:01:00

its funny,your lot seems to have the same amount of money as us,but why cant you do anything positive with it?cos your rubbish,pure n simple.....thats right simple just like your brain mr nonce....look at the way your stalling over a come out with this crap about where we are going to finish,just because of one result but you know youve got no chance of finnishing above us,even when the opportunity arrives you all get the trotts.your so full of diarrhoea,its comes out of your backside as well as your gobby mouth
fran merida
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07/11/2006 14:04:00

exactly fran, infact their Joe lewis is richer than the whole Arsenal board put together yet he doesn't spend it !
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07/11/2006 14:09:00

Puregold, i dun agree with one thing you said, it's true that sometimes we can't play our normal game, but we still somehow need to get a result by playing ugly, that's what championship winning teams do, and we had one clear chance in this match where we didn't really create enough, but we had a penalty, which we didn't get, and had we scored that, the game would have been different and we would have gone on to win 1-0, and everyone would be like, oh we didnt play well, but we got the job done, just how chelsea did against reading, they were pathetic, but won with the help of a own goal and three points in the bag, and how many times they did that last season, whereas our luck has been not so good in the last two seasons, so many decisions have gone against us, when RVP scored against chelsea last season, but was wrongly ruled offside, we had suffered two defeats going into that game, and who knows with that 1-0 lead, we could have scored more and gone on to win, and could have finished higher than fourth last term, and then the etoo offside goal in the final, barca hardly created any good chances, we were defending out of our skins, but we just seem to be running out of luck in the last few seasons, even when arsenal play ugly and almost dig out a result, the luck always deserts us..
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07/11/2006 16:47:00

Like I said before on here...I don't like even responding to the yids pathetics remarks...ever since last May when I saw a bunch of the ******** *****s sitting in the Pub in Barca shirts. I was until then fairly unflappable and held a balanced view as far as the yids were concerned , but now I ******** hate them with a venom you couldn't measure...they have under-achieved for years, winning *****-all for the past 25 years and they have the nerve to come on here and brag when POLL gifted them the points against Chelski.....if there are any supposed clever responses from a yid or two then all I will say is just sit down at your PC and look at your record and compare it with ours....nuff said ...end of !!!.....also many managers you had in the past 20 years ? ....always a sign of crap under-achieving teams.....loadsa gaffers.......
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07/11/2006 18:05:00

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07/11/2006 19:52:00

Confidence? We had it towards the end of last season and all of September. Whereever it has slipped to, I am sure, the players wil dig it up soon. The age old temptation of wishing "if only" Joe Blow was around etc...should take the back stage.
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08/11/2006 01:06:00

Obviously most of the premiership fans were surprised at this result, Wet Spam are total crud this season so it must be a bit of a shocker, good to see the Manager, team and fans taking it all so
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08/11/2006 05:06:00


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