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Voice Your Concerns About Usmanov

Tom Watson is a member of parliament for West Bromwich East, and for reason unknown to me, seems to have taken an interest in the potential take over from the more than unwanted Alisher Usmanov.

Mr Watson, on his website, has stated his intentions to discuss the matter further with his colleagues at Westminster.

Tom said 'I`ve had a fair number of Arsenal fans email me this morning. I`m going to talk to colleagues in Westminster about Mr Usmanov`s bid for Aresenal. I`d be interested to know your views in the comments section of this post.'

So with that in mind, I invite all Gooners with growing concerns about this man and his take over, to leave a comment for Tom on his website Click Here. or email him at watsont@parliament.uk

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind anybody wishing to contact Mr Watson to keep your comments and emails to the point, un-offensive and not in anyway defamatory.







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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday September 22 2007

Time: 9:24AM

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His site was taken down along with Craig Murray's, by mistake. Its good that he is concerned about this.
prits
I shall put my cards down on the table. I'm a Spurs fan. I really DO NOT LIKE Arsenal. I feel that your policy towards frequently playing NO players able to represent England at international level is a disgrace for a team that is based in England - heard all the excuses and they hold as much water as your average sieve. HOWEVER - I've written to Mr Watson this morning as I don't think clubs in the home of football should become a dumping ground for the ill gotten and dubiously acquired gains of reprehensible individuals who have no interest in this country, no interest in our national game and no interest in continuing with the efforts that all clubs make to benefit our society. That may appear nationalistic to some fans not based in the UK and I make no apologies for it. Today it's you under threat but tomorrow it could be us. First it was Chelsea, though Abramovich seems ok, then ManC where their own is definitely not ok, and now you lot .... does anybody notice a sliding scale here in the decency of the owners? Get behind the PL/FA and get them to declare he's an unfit person to own a club.
Gromit
Gromit - While you comments regarding our "Englishness" are mis-guided, and indeed blinkered, you a correct about one thing, this can happen to any team. Until football associations and boards around the world start rejecting these people from our clubs, any fool with money can buy into them and do with them what they please. No matter what they have done in the past or how they aquired their money!!
Rocky7
The only point I would disagree with Gromit over is Abramovich, he's is at least a football fan. He's one of the richest guy's on the planet, and as such must have business interests all over the world. Yet he's at every home and most away games, that's a football fan.
Topspur1
Rocky7!
Topspur1
So Rocky... I can't call him a fat ******** , cuz that will get you sued?
k_chelski
Oops! Sorry about that. As I was going to say Rocky7! I'm sure as an Arsenal fan would not like to see some players in your team that represent your country (whichever country that might be)? I cannot understand why someone of the calibre of Wenger cannot unearth a Stephen Gerard, Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Micah Richards and so on. Their is something within your club that I don't quite understand, believe me I'm not having a pop. And I can also understand your defence of your club, but their has to be a reason why this has happened at Arsenal!
Topspur1
Kev, I choose to believe that the word that has been "starred out" says "very nice man".
Rocky7
It hasn't happened at Arsenal. Infact Arsenal have produced more players to play for England over the last 5 years than United, Liverpool Chelsea and Spurs. Just because they no longer play for us does not mean Wenger has not done his bit to produce English players. The reason they do not play for us anymore (Ashley Cole aside) is that we have happened upon better players. Is it not acceptable to play our best players, rather than inferior English ones? Indeed you own club seems to be adopting our policy, slowly but surely. Bent aside, your transfer dealings of late have seen English players leave and foreign players come in. Difference is, we are now producing more English talent in the youth set ups than any other club.
Rocky7
How did you guess? Unbelivable! We have a goon Uri Geller. :p
k_chelski
Rocky! The question being asked is why Arsenal can't find english players good enough to play for Arsenal? Name me these players that Arsenal has produced in the last 5yrs that are playing for England.
Topspur1
Ashley Cole, Steve Sidwell, David Bentley, Jermaine Pennant, Mathew Upson......Chelsea have only produced John Terry, Spurs have only produced Ledley King, Liverpool Gerrard, Carra and Own, and Man Utd...well since producing the treble winners there has been no-one. The 90 minute rule is one hinderance to the production of young English talent, especially for clubs in London. But all the while we haven't produced many English players good enough to play for Arsenal, neither has (hardly) anyone else, but because we have been sucessfully buying foreign players rather than settling for mediocre English ones, jealousy points all the blame in our direction. Even though all the big clubs are as "guilty" in equal measure.
Rocky7
First post here: What would happen if the FA would not certify Usmanov as "fit and proper"? That would prevent him from taking over the club, am i right? Pardon me, but my knowledge isn't well versed in the subject of takeovers.
WouldYouBelieveIt?!
Topspur we develop more english players than spurs by a country mile - you guys just have an English buying policy. Take a look through the england underage teams and you'll see the true picture.
gunner1981
WYBI - I was wondering that same thing myself.
Rocky7
Come on guys, lets not digress into the 'Arsenal does not produce English players' debate here. This Usmanov threat is far worse and as Gromit points out (rightly), something that could affect any club.
prits
i do not care if usmanov is english! he's in it for the money..only.. if he's vaguely concerned abt the club, i wouldn't even oppose it. my feeling is that he is asked by RA is screw as up at best...really... that fat bas3d should go invest in butter or something..
korodon
The way things are going now, the Uzbek is not doing himself any favours. He is becoming a hate figure faster than T*ttenham's falling down the EPL table. And he is taking Dein with him. I am yet to see a comment (not just here) that has the slightest support for R'n'W Holding. The Arsenal fans around the globe are united behind the board, there is more support coming from other football fans (knowing this could happen to their clubs too), and now the politicians are getting more and more involved. The omens are not good for the bullish oligarch and he might have picked the wrong club to mess with. Great nick"Would You Believe It?!" - Bould plays Adams through and the captain volleys sublimely with his left to clinch the title. Happy days.
G4L
I don't see how the FA are ever going to support us in dismissing Usmanov, when they gave Man City's owner a clean bill of health. What a sad state of affairs - we build and support these institutions with romantic notions of them ensuring fairness and protecting the spirit of the game, but they eventually become impotent. The FA are a toothless, useless bunch of administrators devoid of any philosophy. Which brings us nicely onto the subject of nurturing English players - something discouraged by the FA's policies, and the FA's misguided funding; and all of it conveniently ignored by those who take the lazy way out (a la Gromit) and wag their fingers at us.
Andy-bayor
rocky did you forget Walcott, who has now a cap :) and i think Tottenham's spout about english players was 2 years ago. apart from over priced bent, i see alot more foreign players coming through the door than english. Arsenal's policy is to produce quality players no matter what nationality. we have Walcott, Hoyte, both GAvin and Justin, Ryan Smith, JAy Simpson, all very highly talented players who are thought to break into the first team. how spurs can even talk to us about quality and standing is a complete joke right now.
PUREGOLD
I think Usmanov should own Arsenal, he's a good friend of the Kremlin, and this shows he is a fit and proper person to be the owner. I rest my case. He has done nothing wrong and everyone is jealous that he's a successful guy looking to help improve the club.
Martin Jol
lol Martin, your judgement of character is second only to your judgment of tactics.
nikolaijns
LOL niko, you're on fire tonight :)
prits
CESC!!!!!!!!!!!YOU BEAUTY
karley
there is a massive smear campaign against usmanov to be honest and arsenal are 300 mil in debt if he and dein come in the debt will be cleared and dein will be chairman and wenger will do what he always does nothing changes whatever clears are massive debt the better
young-Gunner
With all due respect Rocky with the exception of Cole, i would not call them England players. And gunner1081 my point was not has spurs produced more players than Arsenal, but why Arsenal have no English players playing for them. Despite your siege mentality, I believe that's a reasonable question to ask
Topspur1
Really Topspur, having shelled out a ridiculous 16.5 mill for someone as bog standard as Barren Dent is that really a question that needs asking?
nikolaijns
PUREGOLD! I hope your right, and the youngsters mentioned above come through your ranks and become international. But I would like to point out that the players mentioned by rocky7, with the exception of Asley Cole, were discarded by Arsenal and developed into international players at other clubs
Topspur1
Yeh it is! I don't suppose you would care to answer it!!!
Topspur1
Rocky is there any danger we can print all the reasons that we have endlessly reproduced for our lack of English players at a column at the top of this front page cos if I see this same tedious feckin question again I will in all likelihood walk out my door and go on a spud killin' rampage, Topspur you keep yor player policy and we'll keep ours I mean yours obviously works fine cos we're six games in apiece and theres only 12 points difference. must be the lack of English grit eh?
nikolaijns
Clearly yours works! That is not what I'm saying, I'm on record as saying that Wenger is probably the best coach in the PL. He's is also one of the best at spoting young talent, so if you are saying their are no english young talent out their that he can nurture. I don't believe you! I would also like to point out that if we have a sucessfull national side, then the PL benefits. Including Arsenal. With that in mind would you not like to see some English players in your team?
Topspur1
OK you want the answer heres the harsh feckin reality and this'll be the last time I get drawn into this (and it's only cos I think you're ok Topspur!), as well as English players always being vastly vastly overpriced and Wenger not being prepared to gamble ridiculous sums of someone elses cash like that, the fact is English players (well the affordable ones) just don't cut the mustard really - end of, they have'nt got it in em, Theo Walcotts come along very rarely and he is the cream of English youth talent (and to be brutal he was our weakest link today fluffing every final ball), but with 17 out of 25 of our reserves being English we'll always bring more through talent but if they aint good enough for our first team they wont be kept, but likewise they wont have their careers held up unnecessarily either, all lads will leave us with the highest standard of training and will still generally be grateful for their time here, why should we lower our standard of play? for you and the Johnny Bulldog brigade? feck that. Arsenes responsibility is to Arsenal not England.
nikolaijns
As I've said earlier Wenger is good enough to bring the best out of most young players, I look at David Bentley and he looks a good player to me. I find it hard to believe that if he had stayed with you guys under Wenger he would not be a better player, and don't tell me he would not be good enough for Arsenal. Look at the money you've spent to fill your right side, plus the fact he can play behind front 2. Are you telling me you wouldn't want him in your squad? Not looking to pick an arguement, just curious
Topspur1
Bentley was in our squad at the time of the invincibles, there is'nt a chance he'd have got in ahead of Pires et al is there? Bentley looks a good player to me too but in all honesty I would'nt swap him for anyone in our squad at the present time (well maybe a free transfer with Lehmann going the other way lol). Anyhow doubtless this topic will be continued to death in the future - just not with me. l8ters dude.
nikolaijns
Is Bentley a good enough player to be first choice for any of the other teams in the top four? If he is wouldn't he be with one of them now? If he isn't good enough for any of them why would he be good enough for us? Nikos right though this is a pointless debate - it's nothing more than jealousy from those teams less successful than us.
Amos.
Back from holidays (Thailand)and love our position, but like many others said this would happen. Can we not set aside differences and face this challenge together because we all will be the suffers. How on earth the stupid FA could have allowed Taskin to be a manager of a football club defeats me but many thing s about England cause me to shake my head. This slimy Russian is the end. Sorry never liked DD and never will, his efforts for Arsenal IMO were all for what DD could get out of it his colours are now being flown for all to see. Not wishing to enter the debate on Arsenals ability to have more English players, I do believe that that the ninety minute rule is the biggest Coxk up ever. I hope one day wiser heads will reign will rule the FA but I doubt it.
alwaysgunner
topspur i think you will find when Wenger took over at arsenal, he has players like Tony Adams, winterburn, seaman, Keown, dixon, merson, wrighty. what has happened in the english league is that the transfer market has suddenly made english players way over priced, bent.v.henry is a good comparison. infact with the way the international team plays right now there are prob 2 players i would have at arsenal, gerrard and terry.. the rest wouldn't get into our team. we have walcott and hoyte currently first team players, wenger believes if they are good enough, they will get in, but players such as pennant, bentley, richard wright, upson were sold on cos they are not good enough.. how many times have they played for england since leaving us ?
PUREGOLD
OK, so while we're off-topic again, let's stay off-topic. I would simply like to say this: Arsenal - so good, they make you want to cry!
Andy-bayor
I wasn't looking to start an English player debate but my thoughts are 1) Wenger got his fingers burnt with £14m on Jeffers and Wright and once bitten, twice shy .. 2) Your scouting network is more focused to the continent and South America .. 3) Culturally Wenger finds it more difficult to work with English players than with overseas players .. 4) It is easier to loan out English players and once they have had 1st team games, they are more reluctant to sit in the reserves ... I do think there is a lot of arrogant nonsense spoken about English/British players and their alledged inferiority. I can think of several English players who could be stuck in your first XI and your team wouldn't miss a beat. Its just that other English clubs have found them first. And anyway, its not the players that you have but the SYSTEM you have that makes the team work so effectively.
Gromit
PUREGOLD! Are you seriously telling me you would not have Rooney or Micah Richards in your team, and Amos it's not jealousy. I'm sure if we were in Italy, Spain or Germany, and one of their top sides did not have any Italian, Spanish or German players in their team. Everyone in those countries will be asking why!
Topspur1
Oh for fecks sake! Turn your back for 5 minutes and the bloody sp*ds have turned yet another thread into an 'English player' debate again!! Nik - room for one more on that spree of yours? :-) (Mind you, don't blame them I suppose - it's about the only thing they have got that makes them feel superior to us - as misguided as that is....:-) ....By the way, has anyone heard that there's this guy called Usmanov in town - looking to buy a football club......... :-)
BergkampsBoot
Haven't posted for a bit cos I've just moved - to London! :) I just wanted to say let's not waste time on that good old debate about Arsenal producing England players. Our concern over Usmanov's potential takeover is a far bigger issue we need to think about. I for one am against having this type of people on any club's board, let alone my club! If the FA let Thaksin buy Man City, with Usmanov's criminal record "expunged", just maybe they couldn't "legitimately" oppose to his takeover/ownership. Is there anything we could do to just make clear our stance as fans? Please someone educate me on this!
Louisa
I know little of English corporate law, but the issue surely is control, isn't it? I mean, if Usmanov bought Microsoft shares, I don't think Bill Gates would cry, would he. Therefore, if the current board and owners stand their ground, can't they cut the Uzbek off in his prime? Is there a way the fans could form a buying group, if only to rain on his parade a little bit? I have loved this club all the way from Aussie since I was a kid and soccer was called wogball in my country. Don't know about you guys, but I feel so helpless with all this takeover stuff...
darinb007
Clearly Arsenal does not need foreign investment... "Arsenal today revealed their status as Britain's richest football club following figures released this morning which show their move to the Emirates Stadium helped increase turnover to more than £200m." "The report - for the year ending May 31, 2007 - also revealed group operating profits up by an astonishing 274%, to £51.2m. These well exceed the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea, whose respective turnover for the same period was £167.8m and £152.8m. This morning's announcement also rockets Arsenal into the same financial league as Real Madrid, whose turnover was £202m for the 2005-06 season." "Arsenal's move to their new 60,000-seater home from Highbury has proved more than a financially sound decision, with the long-term debt related to the move having also been refinanced into bonds which provide "a significant reduction" in annual service costs. The club generated match-day revenues of £90.6m in their first season, representing some £3.1m-per-game, which was more than double that of Highbury." "Meanwhile, some 91% of the units at The Stadium - Highbury Square redevelopment are already pre-sold, with final completion sales expected to comfortably exceed £300m." So what can this Usmanov clown really do for us that the current board is not already doing?
SUX2BU
Cheers for the link! Email composed and sent! Gives me alot of faith that fellow gooners are united against the tango man and his new found friend Baron greenback (nice1 f365 for that...) We often say it in reference to players but we gooners are showing that class being permanent applies to the fans of our great club too....
KaoTeK
PS anyone else notice the similarities between gromit and "sir" harry (he who promised never to post on vital ever again)
KaoTeK
"Sir" Harry = Boring spud who goes on inane, pointless rants about "Inger-lish-ness" Gromit = Exactly the same months after the former finally naffed off... Doesn't take sherlock to see the similarities eh?
KaoTeK
Kaotek you boring retard, you are clearly not Sherlock then
Gromit
 

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