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G4L's Player Ratings v ManYoo

2 things in the intro today:

1. Arsenal will not face a more dangerous opponent than the Salford team this season in any competition. Having said that, our opponents today, despite the array of talent within the team opted and sometimes were forced to utilize a sophisticated version of the Liverpool approach - which basically means contain the Arsenal and (unlike the hoof-the-ball by Merseyside Reds) use their skillful individuals to hit us on the break by carving us open with passing and movement. And hit us they did, on 2 occasions where our wide players and the midfield forgot to follow the darting runs of Evra and Ronaldo. Hopefully, lessons will be learned from this game.

2. In face of his pathetic moan re- the ref and the security around the away team dugout at the Emirates, Sir Cry-A-Lot forgot to mention 3 incidents which the apparently Arsenal-loving Coward Webb failed to see:
a. A clear, stonewall penalty after the ball hit the arm of one Owen H. (Won't go into the shirt tugging by Vidic on Hleb). Would this ever happen at OT? Just think about it.

b. The foul by Evra on Eboue (a clear hack from behind on the legs of our winger) right after he was booked. The nicknamesake of the singer from BEP started moaning, flapping and applying all sorts of pressure to divert attention from his left back and accusing Eboue that he cheated for that foul and even got near to him and gave him an earful. Which brings me to

c. Anderson. No doubt that Cesc's tackle on him was a tad late and deserving of a yellow, but did the ex-Porto man make a meal of it? Most certainly. One would think that he had a broken ankle. After seeing the booking, he was up quicker than you could say 'foul'. What the Sir failed to see was also Anderson's waving of the hand in demand of a booking (of Flam I think) which Mr. Webb failed to appropriately sanction.

All right, player ratings:

Almunia - 6.5 - seems that Manure are his bogey team. Memories of him chasing Giggs in the corner at Highbury during that 2-4 defeat came back as he misjudged his and Evra's speed on the second goal. His decision making was not at the highest level today, although he looked ok on a few crosses and a couple of long-range efforts.

Bac - 7 - ran himself to death. Overlapped and overlapped, and ran back to tackle hard. Did not back out of any tackles and one particularly stands out - throwing himself head-first on a Vidic half-volley to clear from a corner. Tiredness got to him in the end, and might partially take blame for the 2nd goal. Just partially.

Clichy - 7 - kept the Portuguese quiet most of the time, and was tenacious as usual. Won us a clear penalty that red-n-white wearing (if you believe Ferguson) Webb didn't see. 1st goal conceded from his side and backed from a tackle by Brown.

Toure - 7.5 - A solid performance from the Ivory Coast Rock, tarnished by two conceded goals. Fantastic couple of blocks on Rooney, numerous interceptions of attempted through and lob passes by the opponent's midfield and a couple of trade-mark surging runs, one was particularly memorable - the shot went a bit wide.

Gallas - 8.1 - MOM - despite the own-goal canceled by the scored goal, what continuously fascinates me about this guy, despite all the setbacks with injuries, Will Gallas is one of the few players I've seen with such enormous desire to win. Excellent game by William Gallas, could have gotten another one but for a smart leg save from the leggy Dutchman between the sticks for ManYoo.

Hleb - 7.5 - was recognized as a major threat and marked closely most of the time. Got in great positions offensively and made some good runs back. His immaculate technique and balance opened up space for Fab4 in the build up for the 1st goal. If him and Vidic wore opposite team colors at OT, would have gotten an easy penalty. Subbed (should not have been) by Gilberto on 80 mins.

Rosicky - 6.5 - A better outing for the little Mozart, although I expected him to be more of a danger on the left. Had a couple of snap-shots from the edge of the area, one took too long to set his feet but still fizzed by after hitting it with the outside of the boot. Gave his all in terms of effort and ran out of breath towards the end. Eduardo replaced him on 80 mins.

Flamini - 6.5 - You know what you get from Mathieu. He got properly stuck in - again. His anticipation was off on several occasions when trying to intercept a pass. Unusually, ran one too many times forward for my liking which left a significant hole behind. Had a shot wide. Time for Diarra to step in and give him a breather or two.

Cesc - 8 - there's no words to describe his value to the team. He is never afraid to tackle, pass and is probably the 2nd most passionate winner in our club, behind Gallas. A finish of incredible calmness and composure - worthy of senior experienced players - this KID is only 20. Great game taking into account the little space given. Booked for a late tackle on Anderson.

Eboue - 6.5 - skillwise at times looked like his counterpart on the opposite side - at times he was at his lazy best not tracking the runners back. I was delighted to see him tackle hard and fair, disappointed to see him jog at times he was supposed to ran his arse off. Too inconsistent. Replaced by Theo on 75.

Adebayor - 6.5 - Alone up front against the best defensive pairing of the EPL so far, Ade gave them hell. His goalscoring might have gone dry, but his effort never does. Won a good number of headers, chased and got away few times and was hacked down by his ex-colleague from Monaco. The service was limited two 2 crosses which he headed wide and one through ball from Fab which produced a great save from v.d.Saar, but Bac found Fab4 for the equalizer. Needs a partner up front.


Theo - NR - just wasn't on enough. Got caught in possession once - but tracked back to close the gap left by Sagna. Involved in the 93rd minute goal.

Gilberto - NR - quite disappointed of his outing today - he looked completely disinterested and not warmed up. Jogged and watched the 2nd goal develop right in front of him.

Eduardo - NR - miskicked a volley at the end, where he should have done better. Expect to see him in Prague from the off, and hopefully more goals coming from him.

Ref: Coward Webb - the name says it all I think. Average to poor.

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Date:Sunday November 4 2007

Time: 4:30PM

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Did anybody see where Jaunde Ramos admitted that he is a huge Arsenal fan? Just how great is that. :)
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04/11/2007 16:59:00

hleb didnt deserve a 7.5 and even though he scored fabregas didnt play no where near an 8.
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04/11/2007 17:06:00

RIG - Hleb was awesome right from the get go. He ran your entire team ragged in the first 5 seconds of the game. Set the move going for the first goal despite the attentions of half your team.
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04/11/2007 17:34:00

The Hargreaves incident was never a penalty, guys. Try to be fair: he couldn't have drawn away his arm, Clichy fired the ball straigth at it from very close range. The rulebook states that only deliberate handball should be punished and it was a long way from deliberate. If such incidents were worth penalties, skilful players could win plenty of them in every game by bombing the ball on the arm of an opponent.
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04/11/2007 18:43:00

I must say that I agree with Zae about Hargreaves but the Vidic shirtpulling should have been a pen.
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04/11/2007 18:50:00

Oh by the way what is our next "first" big test.
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04/11/2007 18:53:00

Ya i hav to agree that was no where near apen.i think u must hav watched the game in the ground.thats y it seems like a pen to u g4l..adn i hav to dissagree with u, i defo tot both eboue and falminho were 7-7.5....... eboue did a gr8 job of trackin back evra, and kept him quiote for most of the game, i think evra is probably the best LB, his off the ball work is awesome u cud se it once eboue was taken off he got much more of the ball.and flamster did a decent job.....i mean nothin worth of mention but i would say he did his job......i think this match has set up the title race...two excellent teams...i hav to say i was very impressed by their performance against us with that of liver'poo'......
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04/11/2007 19:30:00

Zae, I take it back - you have a point. Still, I strongly doubt the decision for that type of handball would have been the same if it happened at OT in reversed roles, but that is just my opinion. nevertheless, as I said united are the best team we'll face this season in all competitions.
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04/11/2007 19:53:00

Our next "first big test" will be Chelsea on December 16th!!
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04/11/2007 20:12:00

And since you can´t even beat Poo or the should be worrying about that one....
Blue is the colour
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04/11/2007 20:35:00

And just how many victories have you had over 'pool and the mancs this season BITC?
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04/11/2007 20:42:00

Amos you took the words out of my mouth.
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04/11/2007 20:50:00

ha ha how it itc getting involved in the discussion chelsea will be out of the race by christmas
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04/11/2007 21:14:00

BITC is worth his weight in comedy gold. Dude, engage brain before opening mouth. And wipe that dribble off your shirt man.
Little Dutch
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04/11/2007 21:28:00

One thing about ManUre, they always come to play, and have the utmost confidence in their ability to get a result. Therein lies the difference between them and Pool. Tommy worries me, he seems all the more will-o-the-wisp now that Hleb is turning in these buccaneering performances. I think he is a fantastic player, but it seems to take him a while to play himsel finto form, and then promptly gets injured.
G4L, re: Bac, don't forget it was his tenacity that won the cutback for our first equaliser. And completely agree about Anderson, as I commented in a previous article, that card waving crap made my boil boil. Contemptuous little sh|t.
»»Arsene Knows««
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04/11/2007 22:11:00

made my boil boil? Yuck, surely a vile and unpleasant prospect. Made my *blood* boil, is what I meant.
»»Arsene Knows««
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04/11/2007 22:13:00

the linesman deserves a 9 at least, for spotting our last minute goal
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04/11/2007 22:59:00

Anderson... a new person to hate. Just loved Cesc's little cameo performance, feighning a big cry in front of Anderson to let him know he hammed it up too much. I mean, one minute the guy's rolling on the ground, the next there's a yellow card and suddenly he's better! What, is he Ronaldo's prtoege is he?
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04/11/2007 23:16:00

as much as i dislike Man U i respect them as a football team and am glad it will be a 2-horse-race between us and them, just like the good ol' days. none of these chelsea or scouse pretenders
arsenal nutter
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05/11/2007 00:36:00

Try a three horse race, coming good again chelski, thats your next big game.
will it ever happen
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05/11/2007 08:36:00

Theo Walnut rating : 2
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05/11/2007 08:47:00

I told you all here last week that walnut was a liability and lord behold what happens?? lol the kid is so over-rated its a joke!! Fergie's substutions mid-way through the 2nd half were perfect as they looked the most composed and dangerous in the final quarter of the game. Your midfield lost all balanace when walnut gilberto and eduardo replaced hleb rosicky and eboue. United will win the league as they have more options up front and are more efficent. Fergie tactics rating 8 Wenger tactics rating 6
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05/11/2007 08:54:00

Walcott was a liability only if we were intent on holding on for a draw. Wengers tactics were brave in going for a win and a sign of the confidence he now has in the team. The midfield changes were designed to make us more direct but ultimately gave ManU the possession they needed for the counter attacking strategy they had used all game to work. Tactically we had it right for the first hour or so. Fergie employed the same tactics as we did at OT last season. The only difference is that they only came away with one point and not the three we managed on that occassion.
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05/11/2007 09:55:00

Wengers tactics were brave but they were WRONG!! He gave united the midfield for the last 30mins of the game and they were the team that looked like going on to win it. Fergies subs made sense and gave them balance and drive while wengers disrupted the whole pattern of your play. None of you will admit it but playing Walnut was a mistake - he is poor in attack and poor in defense.
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05/11/2007 11:06:00

Fergies substitutions refreshed his team but didn't change their pattern of play - his tactics remained the same thoughout the game. The difference came about because Wenger tried to change things tactically. It was brave but wrong and he risked losing a game that we would have probably drawn anyway. Playing Walcott wasn't a mistake - playing him instead of Eboue was. If he had been brought on instead of Rosicky he wouldn't have compromised our defensive set up on the right. O'Shea didn't offer the same attacking potential down ManU's right that Evra did on the left.
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05/11/2007 11:55:00

It would have been no different no matter where he was asked to play as he is clearly not ready for such a game. What has Walnut ever shown against decent opposition to warrant a role in your team....he has been utterly useless since his arrival apart from against a very poor slavia team. Hearing you mugs chant his name most games is feckin hilarious especially while eboue gets abuse for putting in much better performances. Walnut is a poor version of Agbonlahor!!
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05/11/2007 12:19:00

well played! cant believe you jammy gits rescued another game from the jaws of defeat!
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05/11/2007 12:22:00

sport, Your dislike of Walcott is bordering on the obsessional. His name doesn't get chanted most games because he doesn't play most games. As for the comparison with Agbonlahor that doesn't make sense because Theo is 3 years behind him. He is a very good 18 year old prospect nothing more or less than that. Anyway we like to go for the tailored made-to-measure player rather than rely too much on the off-the-peg options. He may fit very well in season or two.
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05/11/2007 13:01:00

Amos: you're right about tactics and I would say that the little difference (win v draw) you mention is only down to football's cruelty. At OT last season, Lehmann somehow parried Solskjaer's effort whereas Gallas now found the net in the last minute... football is a funny game.
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05/11/2007 13:56:00

sorry paul, hope u dont mind, my one word ratings: ade - lost, hleb - busy, cesc - class, gallas - gladiator, sagna - solid, almunia - suspect, clichy - predatorial, eboue - lazy, flam - hamster, anderson - *****, ronaldo - *****, duckie - *****, rooney - obese, fergie - *****, coward webb - *****, hargreaves - *****. did i miss anyone?
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05/11/2007 15:04:00

darn censorships!!! anyways, missing word is tw*t
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05/11/2007 15:06:00

Fair enough G4L, since you took back the penalty claim on Hargreaves :). I thought the Hleb penalty was clearer, and could have been given. Apart from that, Cesc deserves an extra point for 2 reasons - showing Anderson what a muppet he was, and telling Rio to ***** off for protesting the Gallas goal. Hleb was clearly outstanding and I have a few manc mates who thought he was crap.
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05/11/2007 15:28:00

Anyone saw the old lady flipping Giggs off when he went to take the corner? Hilarious stuff!
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05/11/2007 15:38:00

Yeh it shows how classy you goons are
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05/11/2007 16:40:00

I saw that WouldYouBelieveIt?! had me in hysterics!
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05/11/2007 17:20:00

How some people can predict the outcome of the season by looking at one game is beyond me.....................
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05/11/2007 18:08:00

a great match......fair result...............
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05/11/2007 21:46:00

clichy ran half the pitch to create our last goal and kept ronaldo pretty quiet, could have got a higher rating i thought
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05/11/2007 22:14:00

sport how you could keep going on about an 18 year old not being good enough is insane. Walcott will get better with age. If he is so rubbish why were all the big teams in World Football interested in him, even before the World Cup debacle? You are a silly bitter little man.
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06/11/2007 04:46:00


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