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Sonko Should Be Sent Off

The first foul Ibrahimo Sonko commits on Emmanuel Adebayor in Monday's night Arsenal - Reading clash, he should be sent off.

After speaking with his cousin, Daniel Bocande who was Ade's teammate at Metz, Sonko decided the best way to deal with the leggy Togan, is to kick him.

'My cousin said to me, 'Be careful, he is so quick! When he has the ball at his feet he can be really fast. I think he is the complete player, but apparently he doesn't like being kicked.' Sonko said in the Mirror

'I'm not really like that but if I have to kick him I will do it. My cousin told me kicking him is the only way to stop him playing. 'If you do it early on it puts him off. When he starts smiling you know he is going to play well; I hope he won't be smiling.'

Surely now that Sonko has publicly announced his intention to blatantly cheat, the referee will have to dish out instant punishment? Maybe an FA charge for bringing the game into disrepute? Of course not, because Arsenal 'do not like it up 'em!'






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The Journalist

Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday November 11 2007

Time: 1:56PM

Your Comments

How feeble is this article? For the entire history of football, opposition players have attempted to intimidate opponents before a game with verbals. The first tackles in a game have always had an intimidatory value on the opponents to see whether they are up for it. Adebyaor is big enough to handle himself. The referee will immediately stamp down on what is acceptible and what isn't it. All players commit fouls often caused by the opponents superior skills. To call for an instant red card, irrespective as to the actual incident and hence ruining the spectator value of the game is a disgrace. Indeed, calling for disciplinary action by the FA, is no better than Gooner fans squealing about the fact Anderson didn't get a yellow for imaginery card waving. Oh I forgot ... the sun shines out of the collective arses of the Arsenals first XI who never do no wrong. Hey, lets turn football into a non- contact sport like netball instead. Pathetic.
EnglishSpur
What's the weather like up there high on your pedastal? Pathetic are your pithy, egregious comments revelling in a smug misguided assumption that what you have to say is of any real interest, pathetic is your inability to stand by any of your comments in the long term by constantly altering usernames, pathetic is your rampant tedious patriotism - the last refuge of a cowardly, deadly dull scoundrel dontcha know? now p1ss off Harry.
nikolaijns
It's called a professional foul Gromit, it's againt the rules. Physical football is great, part of the game. But if the only way a player a can get one over a fellow professional is to cheat then he shouldn't be allowed on a football pitch. If we allow players to set out to intentionally foul another player, then it will only be a matter of time before a player has his career cut short by someone trying to kick another player out of the game. Now isn't time for you to compile another courtcase against Vital Football?
Rocky7
I've noticed over the last week since I've been a member that when this thing called a Nikolaijins rarely has anything coherent to say and usually has to resort to personal abuse. You mention nothing about calling for an opposition player to be sent off irrespective of the level of the foul, which is in itself unsporting ... and you try to pass me off as someone who probably thought the same as me as I did. As I understand that this chap must have been 'outed' as you lot choose to say here is my details as I understand you have to be a member of that forum to compare http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/controlpanel.asp
EnglishSpur
Now run along back to your goat molesting as the family pet is missing your amorous attentions
EnglishSpur
Or shock horror actually contemplate going somewhere to watch your 'team' of crumbling mules attempt to get something out of Wigan?
nikolaijns
waaah waaah I'm gonna run and cry to vital waah waah! but yeah we're the pathetic ones lol, go and change your nappy Harry - smells like it's full again.
nikolaijns
Rocky7, grow up. Many players including Arsenal players of legend have often resorted to the 'professional' foul to stop the opposition - in fact the writer would have shown more wit and creativity in highlighting what an idiot Sonko is in annoucing his intentions ... now the ref is going to be watching him, plus Adebayor will know his game ... to say he should be red-carded for any offence, especially at the start of a game, when players are getting used to the speed of the game is a disgrace. And Paul, why don't you just ask my editor Vital JD for my personal details so you can check who I am ... I'm sure as the editor here you can do that? No doubt you'll provide some lame excuse why you can't. After all, it will ruin so many lines of personal attack when you cannot create a footballing argument.
EnglishSpur
Niko - He's probably at the ground posting his comments. haven't you ever heard of mobilephone technology. Funnily enough, EnglishSpur's statement claiming he is not who we think he is, is almost word for word of the statement Gromit gave pretending not to be Sir_Harry. Word of advice ES, if you don't want to have to change your username every month, then just stick to your own site.....you will ALWAYS give yourself away on here.
Rocky7
So Nikolajins, you clearly have looked up my details and as I'm not this other bloke, can I suggest some soap and water to wipe that egg off your face. I notice that you still havent once tried to provide any argument that it is right to call for the sending off of an opposition player irrespective of the offence they commit.
EnglishSpur
Rocky_7 ... check me out big mouth. http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/controlpanel.asp Oh and I'm not at the game as my son broke his leg two days ago, and he's out of hospital today. Sorry if putting my family first offends you.
EnglishSpur
Of course, I always sit at a game playing with the latest technology lol, if we do check your personal details ES (which are open to all anyhow) you promise you won't go blubbing to vital daddy?
nikolaijns
All you need to set up a account at Vital is an email address, and you can set a new email addy up in seconds, the rest of the info can be made up on the spot. However there is a funtion that tells you what IP address's a member has used, and which members have used which IP address.....OOPPSS!!
Rocky7
Well you're hardly putting your family first if you're on here lamely trying to wind up fans of a team you hate!? what a fool.
nikolaijns
Put your money where your mouth is then ... publish the different ones ....
EnglishSpur
And I note you still haven't provided any justification for calling for an opponent to be sent off whatever the offence. Talk about a lame bit of writing
EnglishSpur
Publish someones IP address? Surely you're not stupid enough to try and get me kicked off this site for breech of data protection with such a lame arsed attempt are you? Of course you are.
Rocky7
It's a proffesional foul ES, he gotta go. But at least he won't have to change the name on the back of his shirt after the game!! ;)
Rocky7
ha, you're on it today Rock! give the snitch some! ;)
nikolaijns
I am happy to have it published. As apparently these other guys no longer log on, then how would they know if they were being published? As you can apparently find it anyway with a little searching, then I'm sure VitalFootball has their backside covered regarding the Data Protection Act. So what about all of these players throughout the history of the game who have used the Professional Foul to stop opponents? What happens if Sonko inadvertently trips Adebayor at a Reading corner? Red card instantly? What nonsense ... all Sonko has done with this article is get himself an early yellow .... to call for a red straight off is not the actions of a football fan
EnglishSpur
VitalFootball would have it's arse covered, by sacking me. I'm not gunna fall for your attempts, we ALL know that you are Harry / Gromit / Whatever your latest name is. The offence that could be comitted by Sonko is not the issue here, it's about preserving the integrity of our game. In all your patriotism Harry, don't you want to see the national game flourish? How is it supposed to do that if players are allowed to stifle good play with mindless thuggery? People blame Wenger and his team of foreigners for the so called decline in our national game, when in actually fact that the English put more emphasis on the physical aspect of the sport rather than the technical. It's why we will never win the world cup.
Rocky7
You do talk unmitigated ********* ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry. If any player 'intentionally' kicks another player it is violent conduct and an automatic red card. The referee would have no choice in the matter. As Sonko has clearly announced his intention the ref will have no trouble in determining intent. Only in your footballing world, inhabited by like minded neanderthals, is physical intimidation an attractive spectator experience.
Amos.
Are you an employee of VitalFootball? I'm not sure they can sack you unless it definitely says you cannot do it and as its open to everyone, all I see is weasly way of avoiding publishing information that proves my point.
EnglishSpur
Weaselly you mean Harry? like running to grass when things are'nt running your way, theres only one weasel here and its the guy who can't stand by what he writes.
nikolaijns
Do you think for one moment that the Italian, French teams etc will stop their defenders and defensive midfielders using physical intimidation at the start of the game because we don't? Don't be soft. Its like in Rugby - just because the Aussies stop learning to scrum didn't mean the rest of the world did and look where that left them. Amos, what I see he said was 'I will kick him if I have to'. Did he say he would definitely? Did he say every challenge he would make a deliberate effort to kick Adebayor? What happens if he fouls Adebayor by climbing over him and no kicking is involved? Is that not a foul resulting in the red card under the rules of Rocky_7? and as you have joined in the bandwagon, why don't you publish my details ..... having done a quick search under 'Gromit' I see you were the one who put his details online so clearly you can't be sacked or banned for it.
EnglishSpur
Congratulations, Nikolaijns, you can use Spell Check ... I see you still lack the bottle to put my details online? Of course it would completely undermine your remarks so on second thoughts, you're wise not to.
EnglishSpur
As this is currently only the second time this season that your shocking bunch of toilets are gonna rack up a win don't you think you should be watching a stream of it somewhere? but no you're here pedantically banging on with your foolish jibber jabber, are these the actions of a real football fan??, If The Arsenal were playing the last place I'd be is on your fannyhole of a site, what a disturbed individual you are Gromit Kernow Harry Spur.
nikolaijns
I'll put your details online - here they are........ you are a coward, a snitch, a whiny snivelling little maggot, and quite frankly the most tedious little tit I have seen on this network. There... so ban me.
nikolaijns
On a more interesting note the Toffees have levelled against the chavs in the 90th min wheres poo in the colon?? can I get a loooooooool??
nikolaijns
I think you'll find that Italian, French teams etc., readily accept that a greater degree of physical intimidation is acceptable in the English game than is permitted in any of their leagues. Conveniently quick search wasn't it? Especially as most of the offending posts had been deleted. You joined the site only a few days ago yet you are already an expert on access to members details without any prior expererience? Doesn't ring true now does it. Your IP address identifies you but it doesn't need to be published. Its all pretty clear really.
Amos.
Nikolaijns - All mouth, no action ... that must apply to you as much outside of this site as on it ... have you ever heard of the radio? I don't have Sky/Setanta and as mentioned my son is knocking the hell out of Slytherins on his Wii having just come back from the hospital, something you wanted to criticise. Have you heard of that pretty remarkable ability to use your ears but your eyes and hands to do something different. It's called multi tasking. I made a cup of tea a few minites ago and was still able to follow the game. What a remarkable fellow I must be :)
EnglishSpur
Doesn't he get tired of having his ass whooped by everyone (sir_harry, not adebayor) . Then they get mad when I tell them , spuds are all masochists.
k_chelski
nope you're a tedious little tit
nikolaijns
Amos, except its different so you wouldn't have the courage to as it proves your incorrect. I found out I could see everyone details where I logged on to my friends team page inadvertantly and realised that though obviously I'm Spurs, my username and password go everywhere. And by using my eyes, I saw I could see the members of each forum (bottom right hand of the page). I have been referred to these other names before so like anyone I looked them up to see what the hell people were going on about. Whilst it sounds like you behaviour was deleted on the Arsenal pages, you're actions are still mentioned elsewhere.
EnglishSpur
As I said ES - it's all pretty clear really. You know it, I know it and you know everyone else knows it. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute here so why bother. It has always been just tedious noise from you. Why not just contribute to your own teams forums or are they just as bored with you?
Amos.
Maybe he has alter personas that don't know each other. lol, so every time he gets humiliated, one shuts off. Quadripolar..
k_chelski
ES - Why don't you just change your name again and then stick to the Spurs page, you'd be a much happier person. There is a monotonous pattern emerging where by you change your name, come over here and try to be civilised and then end up revealing your true self. Each time you are challenegd about your identity, you use an IDENTICAL explination as to how you know what we are talking about. The fact that your inability to accept that I actually know for a fact that you have visited us under many different guises, means either you are truly stupid to think you can convince me otherwise, or that you are a vindictive horrible person with a history of reporting people and/or trying to get them sacked.
Rocky7
and claiming that if you're jew you can't be racist. That was something special...
k_chelski
4-0 englishspud, at this rate you lot might yet make it up to mid-table!
JakeB
Rocky7 ... because I know you are b*ll****t*ng - I have no idea about this other bloke, but I think it is equally spiteful, horrible and frankly pathetic to continue to make claims that you know for a fact and then hiding behind the statement that you cannot put it into the public arena, despite others saying that the information is easy to find. If thats the best you can do, it is extremely weak. Simply because someone calls you out for writing a silly story. I actually thought Arsenal fans despite their lack of class were intelligent and could have a reasoned argument but how rapidly you lot slip into inaccurate personal abuse.
EnglishSpur
Why not have a story about how 5 of your fans including season ticket holders have instructed lawyers to take Arsenal to court for allowing racial abuse? It was reported on the BBC earlier this week.
EnglishSpur
Inaccurate personal abuse? How about calling Niko a goat molester? If you think I'm bull*****ting then that's up to you, but me think you are protesting a little too much. IP addresses are not available to anyone other than the site editors and moderators, the public information that you made available in your last carnations are entirely optional, and anyone can see it, but in turn you can put any information in there you like. If you are getting sick of being wrongly accussed of something, then stop coming here......simple.
Rocky7
yeah I make all my goats sign legally binding contracts before any molesting takes place so get your facts right Harry.
nikolaijns
Do you support these five fans Harry? I mean I would'nt be surprised if you did, you're exactly the type of mealy mouthed individual I would expect to take their club to court for the unsavoury minority present in every ground, so I expect you to notify your lawyer to take action against Sp*rs when we steam you at the drain next and thousands of neanderthals are baying about Wenger being a paedophile. Let's just ban all chanting eh? cos it'll doubtless offend someone somewhere eh? man you have just sunk to a new low of toolhood.
nikolaijns
You think goats are able to sign contracts? .... well Rocky_7, put it up if you have that evidence that I am one and the same. And why not a story on Arsenal fans racism? Hell if 5 of your own fans are taking legal action against Arsenal FC ... no smoke without fire.
EnglishSpur
In that case vital spuds must be ablaze for pretty much without exception every xenophobic/borderline racist comment I have read on Vital comes from a spud, no smell without $hit.
nikolaijns
Calling Wenger names, is at worst slanderous and defamatory. Racial abuse is something entirely different. Ironically the religious background of the fans is Christian, Jewish and Muslim, yet all were complaining about the use of the term 'Yiddo', not how Spurs fans use it as a source of pride, but as deliberate racist abuse. I assume you are in favour of the chanting of racist abuse, by your response. Your club make a big thing about stopping it but do nothing about it - so I think they are taking the action as breach of contract. Personally I would never support or defend the actions of an Arsenal fan under any circumstance.
EnglishSpur
I'll tell you this one last time, I am contracually bound (Yes I have to sign a contract to be editor of this site) not to give out ANY personal information of any of our members. And as for the story about the Arsenal law suit, I decided against running the story as people like yourself from the Spurs site will undoubtedly come over and turn the discussion into some unsavory slanging match. However the issue hasn't been ignored on Vital Arsenal, if you want to discuss it, there is a thread on the forum.
Rocky7
You must be wrong , Niko. According to EnglishSpur, no tottenham fan can be racist, because they are a jewish club. And by his reasoning, jews can't be racist. lol
k_chelski
But Nikolaijns, you don't pay £40 a time to go online, and posts that are racist or offensive are apparently removed by the site moderators. Funny enough, the Nazi's used to talk about the Jewish race living in the gutter and drains ... hence your reference to WHL I assume
EnglishSpur
As you were skulking on our forum earlier you doubtless saw my view on the matter, I don't support racial abuse in any form neither do I support censorship, it's a slippery slope and before you know it pretty soon anyone suggesting the ref is a masturbator will be facing lifetime bans - something a killjoy like yourself probably wholeheartedly supports.
nikolaijns
And I call it the drain because the standard of football there is quite frankly toilet, as I mentioned to one of your previous incarnations Harry, this will be my last post to you now, as you are draining any will to live from my fibrous being with your joyless negative drivel, better luck with your next pseudonym old boy.
nikolaijns
Ah, I see Ziggy's playing his guitar again. Someone give me a shout when the Thin White Duke returns, he was much more interesting.
Little Dutch
We all know that you are sir harry and gormit. and Rocky doesen't need to publish any data to prove it, because we all know the truth and we all believe Rocky, he doesen't need to give an proof or data to prove that he is right cuz we take his word. so why don't you please fc*k off to your own site and stop visiting our page. we are all sick and tired of you coming here and posting your bull***** on everything related to us and then abusing us. don't you get it, nobody wants you to come here. go where you have some friends if at all you have any..
luckys_10
This is a disgrace, that players can actually make such statements. Be physical in the game by all means, but wanting to kick a player out of the game is surely not football. And announcing it before the game is probably even more stupid. Now the ref is going to be watching him even more closely. An attempt to play mind games with Arsenal not fully thought through by Sonko.
prits
*round of applause for nik, rocky, amos, prits, and kev* and a massive fu(k off to e spud... you are so predictable that no matter what handle you use, you will always be sussed as the attention seeking, small minded whore that you are.... Lads - dont feed the troll!
KaoTeK
Ooops claps for LD an Luckys too....BTW what are the chances of an ignore feature being implemented?
KaoTeK
Question do we have to give space on our site to people such as ES. Who gives a toss, lets get back to our team. Rocky just drop him off in cyber space.
alwaysgunner
The point is that Sonko pretty much admitted and laid out his intentions to go out and cheat and possibly, through his actions, injure a player, intentionally. This is outside the law, it is cheating, it is flying in the face of the authority of the referee, and shows a lack of respect for the game. Therefore, by doing this, he has cast the spotlight on himself, and any such actions that can be construed to be Sonko carryng out the act of which he has spoken of, should result in a sanction.
»»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
WOW! I can't believe the amount of animosity this subject has caused; it would seem to me that we need to be careful how we interpret his comments. He may have been speaking with tongue in cheek, unless you see the interview it's difficult to know. We all know how easy it is for a reporter to print an interview word for word, but without giving the context. While I do not agree with ES tone, I do believe that the response to these alleged comments is a little over board. Their are a lot of Gooners fans on here that have been watching their team for a good many years, and I'm sure those that are honest enough will know that they have their fair share of sinners as any team playing at the top level have. So let's calm down and get back to some healthy Sl***ging
Topspur1
I agree topspur, its in every team at every level and no team can honestly stand up and deny that they never had one
pandapops
Surely you are missing the point. The fact that it goes on doesn't mean that we should accept any threat to kick another player. If Sonko is stupid enough to tell everyone that he will kick a player if he has to then he should surely expect someone to tell him that that isn't acceptable, lawful or desirable. What is the appropriate response? If someone threatens to beat your kid up at school do you just shrug your shoulders and say 'Well we all know it goes on'
Amos.
Amos we've all seen interviews where two friends are on opposite sides, and one says the only way to stop him is to shoot him. Should he be arrested for threatening behaviour, we do not know the context of statement
Topspur1
I think we can cheerfully take a threat to shoot someone as tongue in cheek given that firearms aren't allowed on the field of play. It maybe that Sonko's statement was meant in jest in which case he would be well served to say so but as yet he hasn't rushed to correct it. There is little in the quote attributed to him that gives much room for the idea that it was an elaborate prank so commenting on what was said is an appropriate basis for discussion. These forums would grind to a halt very quickly if every statement issued had to be accompanied by a sworn affidavit verifying its context before we were allowed to comment on it.
Amos.
how incredibly stupid to confess to those sort of thoughts, donut, altho it hapeens all the time not that its ok, but its a tactic most players use, just gotta hope they can retrain themselves and not injure players
SMOKIEJACK
Bl***dy hell Amos, are you sure your not a lawyer? It's bad enough being a Gooner, but a lawyer as well. Lol!!
Topspur1
A lawyer ? - Nah, just a humble working class gooner currently basking in the reflected glory of a gooner community having proven so many people wrong about so many things recently.
Amos.
I don't know if it's tongue in cheek or not, but those comments may have been preceded by a statement that may have given us an insight into his intention. I would find it hard to believe that in this day an age, a footballer would come out with such a statement unless it was tongue in cheek. Maybe I'm giving footballers too much credit, I don't!
Topspur1
Spoken words can often look completely different in print even when quoted verbatim. He may have said nothing more than is in any footballers mind when given advice of that nature but it was still wrong to say it and it's quite right for others to protest about it. The quotes in the Mirror seem to have been taken from a piece in the Reading Evening Post which though fuller doesn't change it's context: http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/readingfc/2017/2017504/sonkos_gunner_face_his_longlost_cousin
Amos.
Comments were definitely ill advised having read it, if he had just said my cousin tells me to kick him. And left it at that, then I would say fair enough. But he's now put himself under the spot light, can't imagine Coppell is very happy with him. I don't agree with giving him a red card the 1st time he kicks Adebayor, but I do think their could be a case to answer for bringing the game into disrepute. May be the FA should at least ask him to explain his comments, IMO that would be the correct course of action
Topspur1
It is pretty amusing that with all of the non-English scum fans here, not one of them has mentioned that, as he is French, Sonko could have been mistranslated or misunderstood - selecting the most articulate way to express oneself in a 2nd or 3rd language is challenging for the most linguistic of people ... reading the entire article, provided by Amos, clearly suggests the comments are meant with humour - Adebayor is playing so well, that the only way to stop him is to kick him - does anyone seriously think that a professional player would take advice which is at least 4 years old considering how much Adebayor has developed since he left Metz at the end of the 02-03 season? And to call for him to be immediately sent off for the first offence, irrespecitve of what that offence is? Talk about being weak between the ears - at least some have realised that at worst it was pretty dumb thing for Sonko to say, which is more likely to suggest he has been misquoted especially as Sonko has a very good disciplinary record as do Reading (unlike some)
EnglishSpur
He may have been mistranslated, but regardless, it's still a stupid thing to say! It doesn't matter any way as there is no doubt that he will get skinned by Adebayor and be left with egg on his face. Are you gonna pi$$ off now? You irritating self-obsessed slimy scummer. No one wants you here, at least Topspud has the decency to make posts that aren't dripping in bile and hatred.
Gunnerman
Bile and hatred LMAO - isn't it contradictory to say how much you love wonderful free flowing football, then call for opposition players to be sent off, ruining the game as a spectacle (ManU v Blackburn) ? In one or two previous stories, there was massive condemnation for Anderson of ManU waving his imaginery card and trying to get Arsenal players booked, yet here are those very same fans saying its ok to say a Reading player to get sent off before any foul has been committed, and not taking in to context what type of foul may have occured. Should Sonko be sent off in the first 10secs for climbing over Adebayor trying to reach the ball? It's still a foul. And conveniently forgetting all your misdemeanours. How is your disciplinary record these days? I guess all your yellows and reds are totally undeserved.
EnglishSpur
I think they're playing good spud / bad spud with us Gunnerman, I'm sure you need no pointers as to who has assumed which role :)
nikolaijns
So non-English fans are scum now ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry? A new low even for you. The language argument is pathetic as is the 'clearly' intended humour. It's in English and expressing an opinion on the reported comments in its context is reasonable. If he wants to clarify or justify it then let him do so. You are just flailing around, not from any concern for Sonko's well being, just as an half arsed attempt to disagree with any perspective that supports gooners views. Some non-gooners can make a contrary point intelligently and persuasively. It's a quality you have never been able to display which makes your contribution to this discussion as with most others a complete waste of time. By the way Reading has picked up more red cards in the Premiership than Arsenal during its tenure so far including one earned by Sonko. As for our Premiership disciplinary record these days - thankfully its much better than yours - Spuds have 16 reds in the last 5 seasons compared to our 12 - almost twice as many as us in the last 2 seasons alone!
Amos.
ES, you linger like the smell from a bad fart. If a player is stupid enough to declare his intention to foul, then he should face the consequences. Why should the writer of this article not make his views known. This is after all a debate you silly spud. I happen to agree that if Sonko follows up his threats, then the referee should come down on him like a ton of bricks.You are free to disagree, but theres no need to be an obnoxious ****wit about it.
Cesky
Had that been Adebayor thinking out loud to take out Sonko, would you have been so defensive for him? "Non-English scum" didn't pick up on the fact that he could be misinterpreted?? "I think he is the complete player, but apparently he doesn't like being kicked." Does that look to you as if it could be lost in translation? Just out of curiosity, did you by any chance want Laudrup4manager?? Another one to add to the list of user names guys.
tikabooson
Don't feed the trolls. They have seen off Wigan and are feeling like world-beaters.
Moorish
Englishspur.. just a small piece of advice.. shut ur blabbering mouth.. thats all.. for you.. now non-english fans are scum.. i'll tell u dumbass.. u are just one piece of scum we dont require here at vital arsenal.. and if everybody's done.. we might get down to discuss football now.. which ofcourse is the wholepoint of this place.. anybody know why mr simmonett hasnt come up with the match preview as yet?? have logged in 3 times recently and havent found it....
go4it_adi
Simmo is still not well adi, i guess tats why..
luckys_10
to be fair to ES, i think the phrase "non english scum fans" meant "non english arsenal fans". he substituted "arsenal" for "scum", which we reciprocate when we refer to the spuds. i don't think that he meant that all non-english fans are scum, and was thus not being racist. but regarding the rest of his comments here, he is a bit of a wally.
JakeB
ES You dumwit! We are top of the fair play league! And won the dam thing last year! My God what an AR2E you are
vavavoom14
yeah.. i got that jakeB.. he was referring to arsenal as scum.. not being racist.. but he does tend to go overboard with his idiotic crooning about things he doesnt understand.. the extents people will go to just to make their stupid point.. definitely a spud.. and thanks luckys_10.. but i thought our very own mr mustchin would be deputising in his place in that situation.. definitely not the case it seems.. no worries.. there's always mr stillman's match report to look forward to.. :) .. 3-0 to the arsenal.. whatsay fellas??
go4it_adi
what the ***** is this spud scum doing here. one win in 10 matches and they're back on vital arsenal dishing it out.
cescfab4
arent you half czech or something spudboy
cescfab4
Let talk about the match against Reading than ES, as it's obvious this guy likes to troll and provoke people. Anyway, good performance overall and happy we are back on top before the international break (yet again). Cesc was the MOTM but I would have given it to Helb. It's another great performance from him and he was involved in all our goals. It's a shame Cesc will be suspended for the next match, but I would rather have him suspended for the match against Wigan than the Aston Villa match, which comes after that.
BMF
I have a cheeky feeling that that blatant hold of Fae by Cesc was so he could get his suspension over at home to wigan and not miss any of the crucial december matches :P
gunnerkid107
lol.. u never know.. might as well be the case.. although it is against ethic.. but u dont want arguably ur best performer to miss any of the crucial matches in december like villa away, everton away.. and he's bound to get booked sometime.. wigan at home is not exactly going to give wenger sleepless nights over cesc's suspension.. might as well have been the case.. the lad will get his rest.. and we get to see denilson pulling the strings in midfield.. all very well for us.. good performance against reading.. just thought we were a bit too monotonous in the first half until the goal came.. should have tried somthing different..
go4it_adi
didnt beckham do the same thing before the champs league knockout stage while at manyoo? yeah its cynical but as long as fab shuts his trap in front of the tabloid he'll be fine. also cant wait for rvp to come back from his layoff. with him back in the squad i reckon we're well prepared for squeaky bum time come xmas & new year
cescfab4
Amos ... Scum = Arsenal fans of whatever nationality. It appears that only JakeB seems to have any intelligence. However fans who have English as a second language you might have thought would have had more acceptance that conversing with a journalist and struggling to find the right phrases or words would lead to misinterpretation of what he says. What is laughable is that I cannot find any condemnation elsewhere by any professionals of Sonko's remarks. How weak did you think Adebayor is? A number of you come over to the VitalSpurs page and deliver all the abuse you can muster at the drop of the hat, but the moment you get the same, we get all the squeals of complaint, pathetically trying to palm me off as someone I'm not and being too spineless to produce the proof - oh, of course, that doesn't exist. Hell we've even had vavavoom having an argument with himself on vitalspurs. Not one single alleged football fan on this page said despite what an idiot Sonko was, the decision should be left to be referred on the pitch and the actual event that might have happened. I do respect the a few of you, to have the wit to realise that the only person who looked a fool for making the comments was Sonko. As for Laudrup as manager ... mmm ... interesting call Tikabooson, maybe one for the future ... but while we have Damien '5th columnist' Comolli as our Sporting Director, any manager will struggle.
EnglishSpur
Oi SirHarry-Kernow-Mit-Im-Half-Czech-Spud little ****. You just made your 20th post in this ONE SINGLE entry at Vital Arsenal. Now I just noticed an interesting statistic. There are roughly 380 posts made in the last 10 articles at Vital Spurs. And how many posts did you manage in those 10 articles at your own club's website? BLOODY FUC*KING TWO. thats TWO posts out of TEN articles on your own club site. That just says everything doesnt it? just goes to show how much you actually give a toss about your pathetic little club. or perhaps you post under a different account at vital spurs. my my that's a surprise. you should be proud of yourself you sad little ****.
cescfab4
ye gooners.. let him rant.. why do we have to care.. hez a goddamned spud and hez shown how much of an idiot he is and how much he knows about football.. so we might as well get down to talking soccer.. abuses arent landing anyone anywhere..
go4it_adi
Any opinions expressed on the matter ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry are rooted in the obvious knowledge that only the referee is in a position to take any action. That doesn't prevent anyone else having an opinion as to what that action should be in a given situation. Whether you agree with the opinion or not doesn't matter but your whole spurious case is from the position that this article shouldn't have been written because it expresses a view based on what was has been said and not subsequently denied or clarified. He may have been misintepreted but he hasn't claimed that. He may have been joking but he hasn't claimed that either. If and when he does then opinions may change but for you to spend so long here tilting at windmills while ignoring your own forums is daft. It is equally daft, given that those with access to your details have confirmed as fact that you have posted here under a number of different guises, to continue to deny it. But we at least know that we should judge your views not only for the noise that for the most part they are but also from the position that you are unlikely to be telling the truth.
Amos.
An Argument with myself??? I use to be a schizo....And so did I. lol
vavavoom14
judging from the depth of analysis and the comprehensive nature of his posts here at Vital Arsenal (compared to the lame ones he made at vital spuds) it is not unreasonable to say that ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry has put a fair bit of time and energy into his research on the Arsenal football club. On that basis it is also not unreasonable for one to conclude that ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry now probably knows twice as much about Arsenal than he does about Spurs. Now THAT is top notch dedication fellas. This little spuddie has brought the phrase "keep your enemies close" to a whole new level. you just have to applause. you really do
cescfab4
Amos if players were to respond to every article writen about them, they would have no time for training. I really can't believe the stir these comments have made.
Topspur1
On another subject, when is RVP back? I swapped RVP for Adebayor in my dream team in the Sun when he got injured, but last night is the 1st time I've got any points from Adebayor since his transfer
Topspur1
I am not expecting Sonko to respond to this or any article about him TS, but I don't see why that should prevent any one having an opinion on what he is quoted as saying. Any stir created by his comments has been magnified by an internet Don Quixote obsessed with a need to believe anything uttered by a gooner is bound to be wrong irrespective of the argument itself. So your responsible for Ade's recent dry spell then! RvP apparently is back in training and should be fit for the Wigan game. We have missed him a little over recent games and Ade probably needs him to create more space for him to score.
Amos.
Amos - I have invited people to publish the information. What have they done? Tried to hide behind the Data Protection Act. Again I have 110% no problem with my details being published as I know they will not be the same as the other individuals who you pathetically claim that I am. Of course they can now be falsified by those trying to back up their story instead of being accessible to all. It is nice that you are so interested in how many posts I make, Cescfab4, but equally telling that no-one can answer the simple question - is it not two faced of fans to berate a player in very abusive language for trying to get someone sent off (an Arsenal player) yet on the same front page, running a story calling for a player (not of Arsenal) to be sent off irrespective of any future offence - the writer called for Sonko to be sent off for any foul commited, irrespective of intent. If any player maliciously kicks another (Barton v anyone) then they should get sent off .... but for any foul? Read what the writer has called for and then comment.
EnglishSpur
I agree with you topspur imo the reaction was a bit ott, i think the reaction was more to do with the obvious trolling than anything else...
KaoTeK
ES/Gromit/kernowboy/Sir Harry. As I said it has been confirmed by the site editor that you have posted under very guises. Even without that fact it is evident to anyone that has endured your various incarnations that once again you are not telling the truth. As for this article you would only have a point if the first sentence alone were published. Join it up with the rest of the piece and it becomes clear to anyone wanting to see it that the writer is referring to any manifestation of Sonko's announced intention to kick him if he has to. You are indeed tilting at windmills.
Amos.
Well I'm stuck with Adebayor till the January transfer window, my last word on the subject. I can't believe that the FA have not contacted Reading over these comments, which makes me think they have and have been assured that they were made tongue in cheek. Having said that I'm astounded that Barton has not been charged for his boot to the groin of Dixon, if we should be making a fuss it should be over thugs like that
Topspur1
Agreed Topspur1, now that was a proper foul and bit of thuggery. I am shocked that there was not a retrospective red card for that one. Amos, trusting the Arsenal editor ... don't make me laugh!! ... I described the article he wrote as feeble, which in many ways is surprising as I had thought Rocky7 was one of the more articulate fans. However he chooses to turn it into personal abuse, and then make accusations that he is unwilling to support with evidence, as I have said I am happy to have produced time and time again. After all, surely if I am all these characters, by saying I am happy to have the info presented, aren't I giving consent for all?
EnglishSpur
very poor article.
Jacky B
as it turned out Fabregas was the one cheating
Jacky B
Lets punish him. oh no i bet that was "savvy"
Jacky B
"It's called a professional foul Gromit, it's againt the rules. Physical football is great, part of the game. But if the only way a player a can get one over a fellow professional is to cheat then he shouldn't be allowed on a football pitch" Right then Rocky. Lets ban Fabregas for life, cos he is trying to cheat the system and get one over on his fellow pros, by avoiding suspension at chelsea.
Jacky B
Consistency JackyB, surely you cannot expect that? Ironic for all the criticism of Sonko allegedly planning a premediated foul, it was actually the Golden Boy who did so. "Mr Fabregas, those nice men from theFA, want to have a word" :) .... in fairness though, if Barton gets nothing, no action should be taken.
EnglishSpur
But he hasn't cheated JB, he commited a foul deemed a yellow card offence and was punished accordingly.
Rocky7
And ES - I will not now, nor shall I ever publish any personal details of any member of this community. It would not only be against Network policy, but I'd hazzard a guess it would also be quite illegal. So either accept this fact or go away!!
Rocky7
Rocky, so how would that be different to Sonko fouling Adebay?
Jacky B
bearing in mind that both were premeditated?
Jacky B
I agree that I think Fabregas' actions were pre meditated, and that is slightly unsavoury. However, it is a calculated risk, if we lose to Wigan it will have been an incorrect gamble. The second problem is proving it, unless Cesc comes out and says it, how do you punish him? Sonko actually announced his intention pre match to illegally hurt another player. Cesc is taking a calculated gamble (in my opinion anyway) which may or may not come off. It is not great for the integrity of the game per se, but it also doesn't physically harm anybody.
Little Dutch
All good points LD. but kicking a player is not cheating. If you get a yellow card then so be it. Just the same as pulling a shirt. That too is a calculated risk
Jacky B
Also, people get hurt by fair tackles and fair play.
Jacky B
so if people are gonna go round pulling shirts as an end to a means, then i have no problem with people kicking players for the same purpose :) Especially if its a goon
Jacky B
Thats true Jacky but IF Cesc pre-meditated his challenge, then at least he decided to do it in such a way as to not hurt a fellow professional (unless he dislocated his shoulder). As for Sonko, kicking a player IS cheating if you annouce that the only way you can stop a fellow player is to kick him!! The point is that Sonko anounced his intentions and if we want this sport to progress we have to show the rest of the football pro that thuggery is not to be tolerated. I personally love a good, fair, crunching tackle, and I also accept that sometimes these challenges go wrong and end in yellow/red cards and injuries, but I don't accept that players be allowed to kick a fellow professional just because they aren't good enough to compete with them. Once again, it's why England will never win the world cup.
Rocky7
but if you get a yellow for a kick, then its part of the game, so therefore, if you do so succesfully and nullify your opponent, then you are as good as him. But no i dont like getting kicked on a sunday morn
Jacky B
Bloody nora et tu Jacky B? :0, How bored are you lot over at vital lower mid table?, all Rocky has suggested with this piece is that given his nationwide broadcast of intent to kick some lumps out of Ade, at the first sign of such intention a straight red might well be considered, this aint climbing on him to win headers, shoulder charging or anything else within the legal confines of a physical league this is deliberately lashing out to halt Adebayor, as we have one striker already out injured this is a more than understandable emotion from a fan to avoid seeing both of our 1st choice strike partnership out, we aint feckin legislators for the game so straighten those frilly knickers girls, if you lot had anyone half decent to fret about fitness wise and something else other than avoiding the drop to fight for your reaction would'nt be a million miles apart either, so put your bleeding handbags away and wazz off back to eulogising over Darren Bent finally working out what that strange shaped thing at either end of the pitch is.
nikolaijns
What a bizarre rant Niko. Entirely uncorrect i might add, but bizarre nonetheless. I Have made the relevant points above. Thanks
Jacky B
If you get yourself a yellow card by just grabbing someone, it will mostly affect you. I don't think the yellow card will affect wigan. Since they probably prefer that Cesc doesn't play anyway .And the Chelsea game, well, I want arsenal to come with full strength. So no excuses from either parts. When you try to hurt your opponent, you might break his leg, give him considerable amount of pain. Or even cripple him.
k_chelski
My post is entirely uncorrect? I think not you cad! but your points are relevant yes....about as relevant as Status Quo.
nikolaijns
And please don't take umbrage Jacky only the first part of the post was aimed jovially in your direction the rest was aimed at previous comments made by your fellow lilyspite silverware dodgers, toodles!
nikolaijns
IP Addresses dont mean anything i havent got a static ip address, mine can change depending on ur isp all u have to do is turn ur modem off for a day and they give u a new one so can change it but it does depend on ur isp tho
Jaybods
Yes thats right Niko, I am a cad
Jacky B
But.... "Heaven truly knows that you are as false as hell"
Jacky B
And according to Gromit I'm a Nazi goat molester Jacky, which is utterly unfounded.....I don't even know any Nazi goats.
nikolaijns
that does sound excellent though
Jacky B
yeah I've already put it on my CV.
nikolaijns
Jaybods ... I was wondering when someone would twig why I'm happy for my IP address to be published. I personally have a 'dynamic IP address' as part of my Adware/Spyware/Antivirus software - which additionally uses a remote proxy server with its own IP address which completely encrypts your own. As for Sonko, I was under the impression we live in a country where free speech is tolerated? Never once did he say he would try to injure Adebayor. I imagine what he possibly meant to say was the way to deal with Adebayor was to make things as physically uncomfortable as possible for him, but clearly it didn't work. Not like deliberately committing a yellow card offence to massage the disciplinary system in your favour.
EnglishSpur
Of course you do EnglishSpur, of course you do...
k_chelski
K_chelski, you've never heard of a dynamic IP? Its designed to stop hackers .... why do you think I am happy to have my IP account published? The real IP ... and I'm just reading the booklet that came with the software .... is 24point encrypted ... and is the routed through a proxy account - don't you have proper IP software/adware/anti-virus? I bet all those popups you get can be really annoying ... I hope you don't keep any financial records on your computer if you don't
EnglishSpur
But hang on, Sonko's sentiment was fine because we all know that kind of thing goes on, but Fabregas' alleged indiscretion is not?
Little Dutch
No Little Dutch, I have no problem with what Fabregas did ... a wise head on young shoulders .... but it should be accepted that 'gamesmanship' goes on with all players. Aren't actions meant to be more powerful than words? I can't recall Sonko even attempting a 'dodgy' tackle yet he's been portrayed as Hannibal Lector for what most players do week in, week out - bigging it up in the papers. Fans should take more time to criticise actions which really damage the game like Barton's.
EnglishSpur
Agreed that Barton's actions were deplorable and it depresses me no end because Barton can be a top player but he's wrecking his career right in front of our eyes. Allardyce is the last man to coach that nasty streak out of him. Personally, in all impartiality, I have a problem with what both Cesc and Sonko did. But there are degrees and saying you are going to kick a player irks me slighlty more than a tactical suspension.
Little Dutch
You have been spoilt on soft footballers nowadays. Years ago that was the first thing the defender would deliberately do just to let the centre forward know he was there!
dazza71
Years ago they had the three day week and a Sheffield United player was fined £50 for shaking a players hand too vigorously in a goal celebration. ***** happens.
Little Dutch
and they allowed proper jokes
EnglishSpur
IMO Fab did that on purpose so he could work around the discpline rules. I dont like players doing that but it is part of the game. But Fabs yellows have rarely been for bad challenges. I think 2 of these 5 yellow cards have been for celebrations. Crap rule IMO. And i have to agree with what ES said earlier. I dont think Sonko meant this as he wanted to hurt Ade but to just play physical with him and try to get him off his game earlier. If i were defending Ade thats is what i would want to do. I dont know what nationality he is but i think the context of what Sonko was saying was lost somewhere in translation. Anyways it didnt work cause Ade had a great game.
gunnerkid107
You would have to be a moron to condone Sonko's comments, or to make them in the first place. But I cannot agree that he should be sent off the 1st bad tackle he makes, each tackle should be judged on it's merit regardless of who that player is or what comments he's made before hand. It's not up to the referee to punish Sonko because of his comments, it's entirely up to the FA
Topspur1
Sounds like a bit of mind games to me, nothing more.
DeanoVilla
 

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