Sonko Should Be Sent Off

What's the weather like up there high on your pedastal? Pathetic are your pithy, egregious comments revelling in a smug misguided assumption that what you have to say is of any real interest, pathetic is your inability to stand by any of your comments in the long term by constantly altering usernames, pathetic is your rampant tedious patriotism - the last refuge of a cowardly, deadly dull scoundrel dontcha know? now p1ss off Harry.

I've noticed over the last week since I've been a member that when this thing called a Nikolaijins rarely has anything coherent to say and usually has to resort to personal abuse. You mention nothing about calling for an opposition player to be sent off irrespective of the level of the foul, which is in itself unsporting ... and you try to pass me off as someone who probably thought the same as me as I did. As I understand that this chap must have been 'outed' as you lot choose to say here is my details as I understand you have to be a member of that forum to compare http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/controlpanel.asp

Or shock horror actually contemplate going somewhere to watch your 'team' of crumbling mules attempt to get something out of Wigan?

Rocky7, grow up. Many players including Arsenal players of legend have often resorted to the 'professional' foul to stop the opposition - in fact the writer would have shown more wit and creativity in highlighting what an idiot Sonko is in annoucing his intentions ... now the ref is going to be watching him, plus Adebayor will know his game ... to say he should be red-carded for any offence, especially at the start of a game, when players are getting used to the speed of the game is a disgrace. And Paul, why don't you just ask my editor Vital JD for my personal details so you can check who I am ... I'm sure as the editor here you can do that? No doubt you'll provide some lame excuse why you can't. After all, it will ruin so many lines of personal attack when you cannot create a footballing argument.

So Nikolajins, you clearly have looked up my details and as I'm not this other bloke, can I suggest some soap and water to wipe that egg off your face. I notice that you still havent once tried to provide any argument that it is right to call for the sending off of an opposition player irrespective of the offence they commit.

Of course, I always sit at a game playing with the latest technology lol, if we do check your personal details ES (which are open to all anyhow) you promise you won't go blubbing to vital daddy?

Well you're hardly putting your family first if you're on here lamely trying to wind up fans of a team you hate!? what a fool.

And I note you still haven't provided any justification for calling for an opponent to be sent off whatever the offence. Talk about a lame bit of writing

It's a proffesional foul ES, he gotta go. But at least he won't have to change the name on the back of his shirt after the game!! ;)

I am happy to have it published. As apparently these other guys no longer log on, then how would they know if they were being published? As you can apparently find it anyway with a little searching, then I'm sure VitalFootball has their backside covered regarding the Data Protection Act. So what about all of these players throughout the history of the game who have used the Professional Foul to stop opponents? What happens if Sonko inadvertently trips Adebayor at a Reading corner? Red card instantly? What nonsense ... all Sonko has done with this article is get himself an early yellow .... to call for a red straight off is not the actions of a football fan

You do talk unmitigated ********* ES/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry. If any player 'intentionally' kicks another player it is violent conduct and an automatic red card. The referee would have no choice in the matter. As Sonko has clearly announced his intention the ref will have no trouble in determining intent. Only in your footballing world, inhabited by like minded neanderthals, is physical intimidation an attractive spectator experience.

Weaselly you mean Harry? like running to grass when things are'nt running your way, theres only one weasel here and its the guy who can't stand by what he writes.

Congratulations, Nikolaijns, you can use Spell Check ... I see you still lack the bottle to put my details online? Of course it would completely undermine your remarks so on second thoughts, you're wise not to.

I'll put your details online - here they are........ you are a coward, a snitch, a whiny snivelling little maggot, and quite frankly the most tedious little tit I have seen on this network. There... so ban me.

I think you'll find that Italian, French teams etc., readily accept that a greater degree of physical intimidation is acceptable in the English game than is permitted in any of their leagues. Conveniently quick search wasn't it? Especially as most of the offending posts had been deleted. You joined the site only a few days ago yet you are already an expert on access to members details without any prior expererience? Doesn't ring true now does it. Your IP address identifies you but it doesn't need to be published. Its all pretty clear really.

nope you're a tedious little tit

Amos, except its different so you wouldn't have the courage to as it proves your incorrect. I found out I could see everyone details where I logged on to my friends team page inadvertantly and realised that though obviously I'm Spurs, my username and password go everywhere. And by using my eyes, I saw I could see the members of each forum (bottom right hand of the page). I have been referred to these other names before so like anyone I looked them up to see what the hell people were going on about. Whilst it sounds like you behaviour was deleted on the Arsenal pages, you're actions are still mentioned elsewhere.

Maybe he has alter personas that don't know each other. lol, so every time he gets humiliated, one shuts off. Quadripolar..

and claiming that if you're jew you can't be racist. That was something special...

Rocky7 ... because I know you are b*ll****t*ng - I have no idea about this other bloke, but I think it is equally spiteful, horrible and frankly pathetic to continue to make claims that you know for a fact and then hiding behind the statement that you cannot put it into the public arena, despite others saying that the information is easy to find. If thats the best you can do, it is extremely weak. Simply because someone calls you out for writing a silly story. I actually thought Arsenal fans despite their lack of class were intelligent and could have a reasoned argument but how rapidly you lot slip into inaccurate personal abuse.

Inaccurate personal abuse? How about calling Niko a goat molester? If you think I'm bull*****ting then that's up to you, but me think you are protesting a little too much. IP addresses are not available to anyone other than the site editors and moderators, the public information that you made available in your last carnations are entirely optional, and anyone can see it, but in turn you can put any information in there you like. If you are getting sick of being wrongly accussed of something, then stop coming here......simple.

Do you support these five fans Harry? I mean I would'nt be surprised if you did, you're exactly the type of mealy mouthed individual I would expect to take their club to court for the unsavoury minority present in every ground, so I expect you to notify your lawyer to take action against Sp*rs when we steam you at the drain next and thousands of neanderthals are baying about Wenger being a paedophile. Let's just ban all chanting eh? cos it'll doubtless offend someone somewhere eh? man you have just sunk to a new low of toolhood.

In that case vital spuds must be ablaze for pretty much without exception every xenophobic/borderline racist comment I have read on Vital comes from a spud, no smell without $hit.

I'll tell you this one last time, I am contracually bound (Yes I have to sign a contract to be editor of this site) not to give out ANY personal information of any of our members. And as for the story about the Arsenal law suit, I decided against running the story as people like yourself from the Spurs site will undoubtedly come over and turn the discussion into some unsavory slanging match. However the issue hasn't been ignored on Vital Arsenal, if you want to discuss it, there is a thread on the forum.

But Nikolaijns, you don't pay £40 a time to go online, and posts that are racist or offensive are apparently removed by the site moderators. Funny enough, the Nazi's used to talk about the Jewish race living in the gutter and drains ... hence your reference to WHL I assume

And I call it the drain because the standard of football there is quite frankly toilet, as I mentioned to one of your previous incarnations Harry, this will be my last post to you now, as you are draining any will to live from my fibrous being with your joyless negative drivel, better luck with your next pseudonym old boy.

We all know that you are sir harry and gormit. and Rocky doesen't need to publish any data to prove it, because we all know the truth and we all believe Rocky, he doesen't need to give an proof or data to prove that he is right cuz we take his word. so why don't you please fc*k off to your own site and stop visiting our page. we are all sick and tired of you coming here and posting your bull***** on everything related to us and then abusing us. don't you get it, nobody wants you to come here. go where you have some friends if at all you have any..

*round of applause for nik, rocky, amos, prits, and kev* and a massive fu(k off to e spud... you are so predictable that no matter what handle you use, you will always be sussed as the attention seeking, small minded whore that you are.... Lads - dont feed the troll!

Question do we have to give space on our site to people such as ES. Who gives a toss, lets get back to our team. Rocky just drop him off in cyber space.

WOW! I can't believe the amount of animosity this subject has caused; it would seem to me that we need to be careful how we interpret his comments. He may have been speaking with tongue in cheek, unless you see the interview it's difficult to know. We all know how easy it is for a reporter to print an interview word for word, but without giving the context. While I do not agree with ES tone, I do believe that the response to these alleged comments is a little over board. Their are a lot of Gooners fans on here that have been watching their team for a good many years, and I'm sure those that are honest enough will know that they have their fair share of sinners as any team playing at the top level have. So let's calm down and get back to some healthy Sl***ging

Surely you are missing the point. The fact that it goes on doesn't mean that we should accept any threat to kick another player. If Sonko is stupid enough to tell everyone that he will kick a player if he has to then he should surely expect someone to tell him that that isn't acceptable, lawful or desirable. What is the appropriate response? If someone threatens to beat your kid up at school do you just shrug your shoulders and say 'Well we all know it goes on'

I think we can cheerfully take a threat to shoot someone as tongue in cheek given that firearms aren't allowed on the field of play. It maybe that Sonko's statement was meant in jest in which case he would be well served to say so but as yet he hasn't rushed to correct it. There is little in the quote attributed to him that gives much room for the idea that it was an elaborate prank so commenting on what was said is an appropriate basis for discussion. These forums would grind to a halt very quickly if every statement issued had to be accompanied by a sworn affidavit verifying its context before we were allowed to comment on it.

Bl***dy hell Amos, are you sure your not a lawyer? It's bad enough being a Gooner, but a lawyer as well. Lol!!

I don't know if it's tongue in cheek or not, but those comments may have been preceded by a statement that may have given us an insight into his intention. I would find it hard to believe that in this day an age, a footballer would come out with such a statement unless it was tongue in cheek. Maybe I'm giving footballers too much credit, I don't!

Comments were definitely ill advised having read it, if he had just said my cousin tells me to kick him. And left it at that, then I would say fair enough. But he's now put himself under the spot light, can't imagine Coppell is very happy with him. I don't agree with giving him a red card the 1st time he kicks Adebayor, but I do think their could be a case to answer for bringing the game into disrepute. May be the FA should at least ask him to explain his comments, IMO that would be the correct course of action

He may have been mistranslated, but regardless, it's still a stupid thing to say! It doesn't matter any way as there is no doubt that he will get skinned by Adebayor and be left with egg on his face. Are you gonna pi$$ off now? You irritating self-obsessed slimy scummer. No one wants you here, at least Topspud has the decency to make posts that aren't dripping in bile and hatred.

I think they're playing good spud / bad spud with us Gunnerman, I'm sure you need no pointers as to who has assumed which role :)

ES, you linger like the smell from a bad fart. If a player is stupid enough to declare his intention to foul, then he should face the consequences. Why should the writer of this article not make his views known. This is after all a debate you silly spud. I happen to agree that if Sonko follows up his threats, then the referee should come down on him like a ton of bricks.You are free to disagree, but theres no need to be an obnoxious ****wit about it.

Don't feed the trolls. They have seen off Wigan and are feeling like world-beaters.

Simmo is still not well adi, i guess tats why..

ES You dumwit! We are top of the fair play league! And won the dam thing last year! My God what an AR2E you are

what the ***** is this spud scum doing here. one win in 10 matches and they're back on vital arsenal dishing it out.

Let talk about the match against Reading than ES, as it's obvious this guy likes to troll and provoke people. Anyway, good performance overall and happy we are back on top before the international break (yet again). Cesc was the MOTM but I would have given it to Helb. It's another great performance from him and he was involved in all our goals. It's a shame Cesc will be suspended for the next match, but I would rather have him suspended for the match against Wigan than the Aston Villa match, which comes after that.

lol.. u never know.. might as well be the case.. although it is against ethic.. but u dont want arguably ur best performer to miss any of the crucial matches in december like villa away, everton away.. and he's bound to get booked sometime.. wigan at home is not exactly going to give wenger sleepless nights over cesc's suspension.. might as well have been the case.. the lad will get his rest.. and we get to see denilson pulling the strings in midfield.. all very well for us.. good performance against reading.. just thought we were a bit too monotonous in the first half until the goal came.. should have tried somthing different..

Amos ... Scum = Arsenal fans of whatever nationality. It appears that only JakeB seems to have any intelligence. However fans who have English as a second language you might have thought would have had more acceptance that conversing with a journalist and struggling to find the right phrases or words would lead to misinterpretation of what he says. What is laughable is that I cannot find any condemnation elsewhere by any professionals of Sonko's remarks. How weak did you think Adebayor is? A number of you come over to the VitalSpurs page and deliver all the abuse you can muster at the drop of the hat, but the moment you get the same, we get all the squeals of complaint, pathetically trying to palm me off as someone I'm not and being too spineless to produce the proof - oh, of course, that doesn't exist. Hell we've even had vavavoom having an argument with himself on vitalspurs. Not one single alleged football fan on this page said despite what an idiot Sonko was, the decision should be left to be referred on the pitch and the actual event that might have happened. I do respect the a few of you, to have the wit to realise that the only person who looked a fool for making the comments was Sonko. As for Laudrup as manager ... mmm ... interesting call Tikabooson, maybe one for the future ... but while we have Damien '5th columnist' Comolli as our Sporting Director, any manager will struggle.

ye gooners.. let him rant.. why do we have to care.. hez a goddamned spud and hez shown how much of an idiot he is and how much he knows about football.. so we might as well get down to talking soccer.. abuses arent landing anyone anywhere..

An Argument with myself??? I use to be a schizo....And so did I. lol

Amos if players were to respond to every article writen about them, they would have no time for training. I really can't believe the stir these comments have made.

I am not expecting Sonko to respond to this or any article about him TS, but I don't see why that should prevent any one having an opinion on what he is quoted as saying. Any stir created by his comments has been magnified by an internet Don Quixote obsessed with a need to believe anything uttered by a gooner is bound to be wrong irrespective of the argument itself. So your responsible for Ade's recent dry spell then! RvP apparently is back in training and should be fit for the Wigan game. We have missed him a little over recent games and Ade probably needs him to create more space for him to score.

I agree with you topspur imo the reaction was a bit ott, i think the reaction was more to do with the obvious trolling than anything else...

Well I'm stuck with Adebayor till the January transfer window, my last word on the subject. I can't believe that the FA have not contacted Reading over these comments, which makes me think they have and have been assured that they were made tongue in cheek. Having said that I'm astounded that Barton has not been charged for his boot to the groin of Dixon, if we should be making a fuss it should be over thugs like that

very poor article.

Lets punish him. oh no i bet that was "savvy"

Consistency JackyB, surely you cannot expect that? Ironic for all the criticism of Sonko allegedly planning a premediated foul, it was actually the Golden Boy who did so. "Mr Fabregas, those nice men from theFA, want to have a word" :) .... in fairness though, if Barton gets nothing, no action should be taken.

And ES - I will not now, nor shall I ever publish any personal details of any member of this community. It would not only be against Network policy, but I'd hazzard a guess it would also be quite illegal. So either accept this fact or go away!!

bearing in mind that both were premeditated?

All good points LD. but kicking a player is not cheating. If you get a yellow card then so be it. Just the same as pulling a shirt. That too is a calculated risk

so if people are gonna go round pulling shirts as an end to a means, then i have no problem with people kicking players for the same purpose :) Especially if its a goon

but if you get a yellow for a kick, then its part of the game, so therefore, if you do so succesfully and nullify your opponent, then you are as good as him. But no i dont like getting kicked on a sunday morn

What a bizarre rant Niko. Entirely uncorrect i might add, but bizarre nonetheless. I Have made the relevant points above. Thanks

My post is entirely uncorrect? I think not you cad! but your points are relevant yes....about as relevant as Status Quo.

IP Addresses dont mean anything i havent got a static ip address, mine can change depending on ur isp all u have to do is turn ur modem off for a day and they give u a new one so can change it but it does depend on ur isp tho

But.... "Heaven truly knows that you are as false as hell"

that does sound excellent though

Jaybods ... I was wondering when someone would twig why I'm happy for my IP address to be published. I personally have a 'dynamic IP address' as part of my Adware/Spyware/Antivirus software - which additionally uses a remote proxy server with its own IP address which completely encrypts your own. As for Sonko, I was under the impression we live in a country where free speech is tolerated? Never once did he say he would try to injure Adebayor. I imagine what he possibly meant to say was the way to deal with Adebayor was to make things as physically uncomfortable as possible for him, but clearly it didn't work. Not like deliberately committing a yellow card offence to massage the disciplinary system in your favour.

K_chelski, you've never heard of a dynamic IP? Its designed to stop hackers .... why do you think I am happy to have my IP account published? The real IP ... and I'm just reading the booklet that came with the software .... is 24point encrypted ... and is the routed through a proxy account - don't you have proper IP software/adware/anti-virus? I bet all those popups you get can be really annoying ... I hope you don't keep any financial records on your computer if you don't

No Little Dutch, I have no problem with what Fabregas did ... a wise head on young shoulders .... but it should be accepted that 'gamesmanship' goes on with all players. Aren't actions meant to be more powerful than words? I can't recall Sonko even attempting a 'dodgy' tackle yet he's been portrayed as Hannibal Lector for what most players do week in, week out - bigging it up in the papers. Fans should take more time to criticise actions which really damage the game like Barton's.

You have been spoilt on soft footballers nowadays. Years ago that was the first thing the defender would deliberately do just to let the centre forward know he was there!

and they allowed proper jokes

You would have to be a moron to condone Sonko's comments, or to make them in the first place. But I cannot agree that he should be sent off the 1st bad tackle he makes, each tackle should be judged on it's merit regardless of who that player is or what comments he's made before hand. It's not up to the referee to punish Sonko because of his comments, it's entirely up to the FA