Arsene: What About Abuse At ManU?

Grow up, sado's

We're not childish, he started it.

ES, clubs dont just have a responsibilty to stamp out racism. They have a duty to stamp out anything which breaks the law including slanderous statements & chants. Amazingly though I never hear the spuds or the mancs say anything to their fans about such behaviour.

Hence Wenger having the right to sue Manchester United for allowing such bile and filth directed at him E.S.

To be fair it's probably water off a duck's back to him anyway. I'm sure also that had Man.Yoo won at The Emirates Fergie wouldn't be making any complaints either. It all seems a little childish to me.

Ferguson's argument was that the emirates lacked security & that he & his team suffered abuse. He also claims arsenal should be able to find the culprits on CCTV (not sure how exactly, unless someone was trying to attack him), however based on his feeble argument, man utd should be able to identify every person who sings songs about Wenger & then pass on their details so Arsenal/Arsene can take court action!! however whether its civil or criminal its still possible for a person to take action & therefore the clubs still have a responsibilty to eradicate it. I remember spurs never had a problem with fans making songs about Sol Campbell's sexuality after he left the club, however when those 'gay stories' about premiership football players appeared in the sunday papers (& Jenas was readily suggested as one of them, although later it turned out he wasn't) then spurs made a big deal of the fact no homophobic chanting would be tolerated & action would be taken against offenders, surely that should be the case with anything thats not to do with football??

yeah, so now AW is now spouting off becuz ur fergie-dog was talking crap. we could sue u for blashemy, but then you are dogs, we can't sue dogs..the constitution protects dogs.

An absolute classic get it framed, "we are not childish" by someone called hatespur, it doesn't get any more hypocritical than that !!

You mean to tell me that there were some actual fans shouting at the Immigrants... get outta here! It's called irony Gooner scum, Fergie's taking the mick!

Just a thought but am I alone in thinking that anyone calling themselves 'Tonytime' should be a little careful when talking about childish user names?

tonytime, care to check the 'hatespur' thread you started in our forums? »»ARsene Knows««

1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. 2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated. b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion. Just thought you should know Tone.

Wingy, don't worry, I've just read it. How lame. Thanks for putting the little loner right for me. This vendetta all originated from xenaphobic comments made by he and his brethen regarding the detrimental effect our great club has on english football and his failure to understand my view that my premium concern is Arsenal, not England. Hey ho, i won't be losing any sleep.

T.T, again revert to the childish forum you tried (and failed) to generate support from.

looks like amos is after all alone, wots childish about tonytime considering my name is er ...tony, thank god i wasn't christened hate ! that would be quite a negative downer.

Get off TT you tit! How about you take your "Campaign for PC Names" around the whole of the vital network, no doubt there are hundreds of fans who, with little to no malice intended, have a user ID based on a dislike for their local rival. Wake up you silly old bugger!

My only remark to TT would be, I'm not Little and I ain't Dutch. While you wrestle with the political implications of that, I'll be doing something worthwhile.....like whittering away my working day in the khazi.

Ok guys, enough fun for one day, I think i have established the level at which Vital arsenal is at, (*****, crap, turd, bugger etc its all far too high brow for me,(is that irony ,, doooohhhhh) debate wise, unlike the team their is room for improvement. tonytime knows.... lol.lol.lol

Grammatical errors in every one of his posts LD. I blame Labour.

You have a point amos, but look at your last couple of posts they add nothing to any debate, however take heart dear boy, they will be taken more seriously by the casual observer than any ending in hatespur. Ultimately tomorrows another day, which is a bit of a shame if you are called amos !!!!.....

lol LD.

tonytime, when are you going to take part in the question and answer debate we posed to you ages ago? or are you just avoiding justifying the attempts at mudslinging (without any basis or foundation) that you made? »»Arsene Knows««

Little dutch ain't little nor dutch? So I'm guessing Rocky7 doesn't speak like a down syndrome kid?

without the cool glasses though...

Sadly, hatespur, I do know what you are talking about - I have been taunted with that before. The name comes from an over enthusiastic, alcohol fuelled, promotion of the talents of a '50s blues artist called Amos Milburn which a certain group of friends for a time refused to let me forget.

Sorry Amos:) I like it, much more intreresting than Kevin.

By the way when I said "Is that not far worse than being called hatespur???", I was referring to Kevin's comment about down syndrome, not your name. Just to clarify.

What the hell have you been smoking today?

and besides, it makes as much sense as what the spuds are always talking here anyway. SO I might as well take advantage... ._.

I don't think you're ready for it yet... stick with tea for the moment. : p

Even chico time is preferable to tonytime, what a confused character! someone that professes to be a "sometime gunner" whatever the hell that means, presumably when we play a foreign club he sits in his p!ss stained union Jack boxers and grunts his encouragement through mouthfuls of chicken madras, he constantly puts down 99% of our posters here for lacking "wit and intelligence" yet his sole contribution here has been to relentlessly stalk hatespur, oh well is this the price we have to cough up for some form of success? Cos success and renown aint all sunshine and roses - it also brings the type of raincoated simian that crouches outside your house whacking off maniacally.

So Dr. ,can't you make like a prescription to success for tottenham? It would sure help them out. Start with "can't have overweight goalkeepers, since they need to jump",,,

niko, thanks for pointing out (with others) his failings in my absence on the forum. Tedious little cretin.

no probs hs, I'm sitting here chuckling like a drain thinking of Ramos turning round and saying "won't you help me Dr Yid? Doc doc doc doc Dr Yid? aah Miami sound machine classic from the eighties there pop pickers!

I ave found a problem in your cure for Robinson doctor. He'll be sent off every game for taking an almighty bite out of the ball.

hs, he's gotta catch it first... let's deal with one problem at a time!

I hate it when that happens! posts out of order that is not ball sniffing

See, and you wanting what I'm having. Even tea is making you doubt reality, imagine when you get the real stuff!

hahahhaha.

lol, the real stuff is ....coffee! Coffee is better than tea.

lol. You guys are all on top form tonight. Excellent stuff 8-)

Niko, i atched that film in the cinema - that was by far my favourite scene from the movie! Thanks for digging that one up, dude :)
»»Arsene Knows««

Anyway breaking news, people, Steven Gerrard joined the "foreign limit" bandwagon. It's funny, if Gerrard put away that sitter just after the break on the England-Russia match, England would have been 2-0 up and wouldn't be in the mess they are right now. I guess, Stevie is all sore that Torres, a foreigner, didn't give him some advice on who to score. Oh, it also does not help that England has a crap manager and fatty fat fat in goal (aka Paul Robinson) is hopeless. You spud fans, don't say it's because he's "big boned", face it, he's fat.

I'm surprised no-one has had a word about K_chelski, taking the p**s out of Rocky7? "So I'm guessing Rocky7 doesn't speak like a down syndrome kid?" .... isn't this name the editor paying homage to David Rocastle (1967-2001) who died of cancer and weared the No7 shirt at Arsenal (before we had squad numbers)? - what is pretty disgusting is that Rocastle even played for Chelsea between 1994-98 yet K_chelski couldn't be bothered to recognise that. So much for his claims of being a genuine Chelsea fan. Taking the p**s out of former players who have died of cancer has got to be a new low

So you are taking the ***** out of DownSyndrome people now? Why did you think Rocky7 was a reference to a Rocky film? How stupid are you. It was was obvious to any real and genuine Arsenal or Chelsea fan ... indeed any football fan that Rocky7 was paying homage to the late David Rocastle (1967-2001). And now you are trying to pass it off as some sort of joke. PS. I actually have a wife so have gone better. Funny enough her surname doesn't end in .jpg.

You have a wife eh? Did she came all set, or did you have to inflate her?

Seriously gentlemen, i don't think there is any need for all the insults. surely we can agree to disagree like adults without stooping so low. At the end of the day we are all followers of the beautiful game and each of us have the right to prefer a team over the other.So...can't we get along SOMEHOW? Well, I tried.

that is to say, "...last few ones..."

Oh I'm sorry EnglishSpur, I'm sure the doll is from the latest technology. Wanna talk about a weak mind, how about you thinking that jewish people can't be racist? People like you, make xenophobic and racist comments, and then try to shield themselves, behind your club, just because the fans call themselves yids.

I actually said that Jewish people were in many cases less likely to be racist having been on the receiving end of the worst form of racist abuse ever, so would be more restrained of being racist towards others - a whole lot different that you deliberate distortion of the comment I made .... its really quite amusing that I am being accused of making xenophobic and racist comments - please tell me when? .... and I can go better than that - an insultingly alledged 'doll ' that actually bares children; a son so far and it seems like No2 is possibly on the way .. its amazing what technology can do eh? ..... but I see you cannot help yourself when it comes to being abusive about other peoples families. Surely even Vitalfootball have rules stopping people doing that?

Bring on this quote then K_chelski. You've been abusive towards my family. You've also been anti-semitic, made cheap jokes about cancer sufferers, made tasteless comments about people with mental disabilities. Yes I have been into a black neighbourhood in the USA - Washington DC in fact. I saw black people using what I would consider racist terminology against other blacks but I would say that the level of racism they displayed towards other races and nationalities was far less than the average caucasian. Studies have shown that the victims of racism are less likely to be racist than others.

"K_Gooner2010, as a large number of fans are Jewish and/or follow a club with a known Jewish affiliation ...... and are frequently taunted about the Holocaust, to describe Spurs fans as rascist is bizarre and without any foundation" I had to search it through google, since the news archive link is broken, but there it is.

Exactly where does that say that I said that Jews aren't racist? I said to descibe Spurs fans in the generalist way you do as all racist is without foundation. Though I must say that the sophistry you employ is most impressive - you are clearly suggesting the individuals with DownSyndrome are as stupid as Spurs fans rather than as intelligent, so you are trying to pass off abusive remarks as praise. Trying to explain away as irony, your failure to understand the Rocky7 name, shows your lack of footballing knowledge as well as your lack of good taste. However you clearly still believe that abusing people's families is an acceptable form of discussion. Oh, and the xenphobic and racist comments I have made .....?

My god, I go away for a few days and these arguments are still going on. I think we have all had our fair share of dgs at each other, so can we now please call a halt to this? Oh an ES, from an emotional father who is about to be without his son for a while......congratulations on the good news.

Seriously hope you guys win the title this season. Fergie is doing my head in this season, and you play by far the best football in the Prem if not the World!

kev, don't get baited by English Spur/Gromit/Kernowboy/Sir Harry. He will make stuff up to rile you.