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Cole Thinks He Still Matters

Pantomime villain, Ashley Cole, has repeated his stance from last season that his aim when he plays Arsenal is to 'shut a few people up'.

Cole eventually bottled the return to Arsenal last season after playing lame, but 'Ash the Cash' has vowed to 'front up' at the Grove this season, and hopes to silence his critics.

'Compared to what happened to the England guys, I am sure I will get much worse when I go back to Arsenal,' Cole said in the Daily Mail.

'But I am used to it, and I am looking forward to the game. I want to go there and play them because I did not get to play there earlier this year. I will go there and front up. I am a grown man. They (the Arsenal fans) threw money at me at Stamford Bridge, and that was bad, but I get that every game. I love it.'

'It would be nice to go there and shut some people up. It's going to be tough though. To be honest, I am really not bothered about the reception I will get, even though I know the crowd will get on my back.'

'I don't think I have anything to prove to them. They know how good I was when I was with them and what I did for the club. It is not about that.

Cole even claims he still has feelings for the club that gave him everything.

'Of course Arsenal still means something to me. I don't hate the club or the players. I love the club, but it has finished for me there now. I need to look at myself and Chelsea and do as well as I can and win as many things as I can here.'

Even though Cole's departure was more than 12 months ago, feelings towards the leftback are still raging amongst Gooners, but here's my advice.

The best way to get your own back on this geezer would to be not to aknowledge him at all. His ego already tells him he's in for a rough ride because he was so important and famous, imagine the hurt he would feel if we showed him we didn't actually care.

Instead of chanting anti-Ashley songs, open up those vocal chords for pro-Clichy dittys.




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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday November 26 2007

Time: 1:03PM

Your Comments

While he was with us he was described, in all seriousness, by people outside the club as the best left back in the world. No one would make that claim genuinely now. As LD posted the other day Clichy is better and that's the point we should take real satisfaction in.
Amos.
We need a Clichy Song. Ge-Al-Cli-Shy...Ge-Al-Cli-Shy (A-De-Ba-Yor) Or Clish-Ahhhhhh (flash ahh)
Goofle
Whilst i'd love to be big enough to heed your advice Rocky, I believe my feelings for the bedraggled little turd will get the better of me on the day. Are Chav fans still accusing us of being the ones who keep dragging this fued up again by the way??? It appears to me that he and his unfortunate betrothed are the ones who haven't managed to let it lie.
hatespur
'I don't think I have anything to prove to them' Then he goes on to say he would like to play to shut a few people up, does that sound like someone who has nothing to prove or someone who does care what people think
Topspur1
I say keep having a go at Cashley, keep feeding his ego - at the moment, his brain ratio is something like : 50% ego, 49%******whipped, 1% football talent - i fear that if we stop going at him and his ego deflates, his footballing talent may increase! He'll never be as good as CLichy though!
Cesky
good article, with good ideas that would probably be more effective and less dangerous than throwing money at the bloke, but ask yourselves this...if he doesnt matter to you anymore why are you still writing about him?? maybe you all still care more than you realise?
SMOKIEJACK
HS - I can completely understand people for giving him grief,I'd be tempted myself. I just think we should be weary of giving him good reason to put in a fantastic performance. If the gooner were silnt everytime he touched the ball, that would seriously ***** up his head.
Rocky7
SJ - It's an Arsenal related quotes we try and report everything on our Arsenal webite. Oh an the money that was thrown at him wasn't coins, it was £20 notes with Ashley's head replacing the queens.
Rocky7
I'm with you on this Rocky. Frankly, I dont feel any hatred for Cashley now, coz I dont give a *****. We have a better LB in Clichy. Treat him like any other opposition player, thats it.
prits
Smokie, this tedious little fiend and his dumb geordie racist tart have continually brought the issue to the attention of the masses whilst the rest of us have attempted to forget the distain he brought to out great HISTORIC club. Head back to faceless Chavski and let us respond to his comical drivel in our own way. We have 2 better players, without the pantomime and are merely responding to his childish comments. He'll do a last minute no-show again anyway.
hatespur
Cashley will most likely be injured between now and Dec 16th. He is no longer the quality player he was and is now just a big mouth. 3 bookings already this season for mouthing off at the ref. Seems he likes to do it to the press as well. Best to completely ignore the useless little turd and heap praise on Clichy as this article advises.
bseymour
Even just a few short months ago I was firmly in the "give Ashley *****e" camp, but it would only serve to massge his already huge ego. He wants us to feel angry because he wants to be the centre of attention, if we deny him that he will wonder what the hell is going on and disrupt his game.
Rocky7
Rocky, we all expected him to come to the Emirates last season and he come down with a mysterious injury again. Don't be surprised if it happens on 16th Dec.
hatespur
We only need sing one song that even acknowledges his existence, "we all agree, Clichy's better than Cashley."
Little Dutch
Id still give his missus one though
Cesky
How about to the tune of "Heeeeyyyy Baby" - "Gaaaaeeeeelllll Clichy, oohh ahhh, we all knooooooowwww, you are better than Cole"
Rocky7
She'll be well pleased to hear that Cesky:)
hatespur
Like that Rocky, i'll try it.
hatespur
I think I'll suggest it to RedAction.
Rocky7
Thought as much HS! Hopefully she'll be there on 16th. I'll make my move while Cashleys crying in the dressing room coz no-one cares any more! Great idea for a Clichy tune btw rocky.
Cesky
been saying this since last season. The best way to get back at this fevered ego is to treat him with disdain and indifference. He would be so puzzled and gutted that no-one iwere bothered whether he were there or not that he would be most upset. He is obviously the type of person (ie. an English 'Premier League Star' - did DB10 bring out a book yet? T'would be a far worthier read that cashley 'me and my money' effort, surely...) who believes that the world should revolve around him and that he's the most important thing since the flushing lav.

Witness the sickening pics of him and the tweedler in thier white satin garbs in front of that classic car. Pass me the bucket per-lease.
»»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
i still like 'I'd rather have a willy than a ****'
»»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
I sat above the redAction mob on Saturday as I had given my usual seat to a mate. I thought they done well to keep the tempo up in what was otherwise quite a poor game.
hatespur
or on a negative vibe:

'Money money money, must be funny, in a w@nker's world...'
»»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
I detest the **** and join in the emptying of my stomach from the heavy breakfast to honour the despicable piece of *****. On a more positive note, what is the most popular Clichy song? And wouldn't it be smth for Clichy to score his 1st club goal against the chavs?
G4L
I think the heat has gone. This Chelsea x Arsenal game won't be as heated as the previous ones. Just the best clubs in london(not that there's much to choose from) that hate each other a little bit.Hopefully Grant will stick to his good football (something he said 1513203203213515615601561650320321251231212548489489798789798798798798798789789798798789798789789789456116548465465465456156146549849846514611651651648948946545645645615618 times since he got the head coach job) philosophy , and it will be an open game.
k_chelski
The game will be more heated than in the last couple of years as we are genuine title contenders again Kevin. If you are expecting a mild natured game you're in for a shock. Bearing in mind that we don't have a Premiership game at home until then we are all going to be chomping at the bit to get there on 16th December. I'm managing to wind myself up just responding to you. Shame Essien won't be playing, he was your best player by a distance in the 2 league games last season.
hatespur
I hope it's an open game Kev, because quite honestly, I think we'll murder you if it is. Since you finally got a few results after all those years, your game has been much more disciplined rather than about style, which we have struggled to break down, if you come at us to play as we do, you will lose :P
Rocky7
K Chelski hope you're being ironic there mate, cos the heat aint gone. Re giving his missus one, she must be gagging for it after these couple of yrs married to a back door merchant. Reckon it could be your lucky day :)
AFC85Lew
Infact didn't Essien score both goals HS?
Rocky7
The weekend couldn'tve gone much better for Gooners really, no way would Chelsea have not won on Sat and with Utd losing... it's about time he got sent off for a straight foul this season n all, had a couple of shocking tackles
AFC85Lew
He did Rocky. He ran the game at our place and scored the equaliser. He played well at Sparseford Bridge but didn't control the game the way he did at the Emirates. Still scored a cracker though.
hatespur
I'm talking about the hype. Come on, Mourinho used to do all kind of mind games. Grant will be more defensive with the media. The Mourinho x Arsene was a strong feud. It also depends on how we'll be playing, I just hope Mikel won't do anything stupid. Rocky, we haven't lost discipline, just because mourinho is gone , doesn't mean his style doesn't affect this chelsea team.The players are the same.Hopefully we'll play with ballack. I can't remember the last time we played with Ricardo Carvalho and Terry.We won't play like you do, just more open.
k_chelski
I enjoyed reading this article - I'm a rover and dislike Cole it reminded me of when Lucas Neill left us for the cash - you don't want to acknowledge themas it would boost their ego - but ya can't help telling them what a c#@t they are!
FreidelNo.1
Neill is another of those despicable money men in football now Freddie. Had the option of going to Liverpool and playing in the Champions League final, but chose a relegation threatened West Ham because they offered him a king's ransom. It's only when his career is over he'll realise that you can't spend 40k per week, let alone 80k.
hatespur
You can have a go at Ashley and be pro Clichy at the same time with a Gael Clichy/Cole version of the Ray Parlour/Posh Spice song. 'Cheryl Tweedy is a slapper, her husband prefers males, so when she's *****in' Ashley, shes thinking about Gael'!
Ozi Gooner
HS - my Clichy song has gone down a storm with the RA boys, seems like they're gunna get it goig in a trial run vs Steaua!!!
Rocky7
Magic Rocky, i'll be there to give it an airing in the East Stand.
hatespur
And like wingers I still love the 'I'd rather have a willy than a ****' song to.
Ozi Gooner
haha i love the clichy song, legend
smiggyswfc
Until clichy learns to pass and cross the ball to a team mate he cannot be considered to be as good a player as ashley cole.
sport
Agree with sport, clichy might be better defensively but his crosses are generally terrible :(
AB_Arsenal
And until Spurs learn to defend, they will always be considered *****e!
Rocky7
wayne bridge is better than cole and clichy.
k_chelski
You would say that being Brazilian Kevin. I've always rated Bridge, but he defended like old people f*** against the Croats.
hatespur
K_Chel, i sniff a hint of irony there given that you are normally quite objective on this site! I take it you weren't watching the ENgland game then. Cashley's a **** but he still woudl have been way better than Bridge. In fact Bridge (along with Richards), put in one of the worst performances i've ever seen in an England shirt, and to be honest, i've never seen him play much better when watching the chavs either.
Cesky
he just got back from an ankle injury. Bridgey is very unlucky.
k_chelski
or was it a hip injury, I'm not sure.
k_chelski
I think it was more like brain damage K!
Cesky
He didn't look rusty kevin, he looked like he'd never played football before. It should have been home from home for him trying to find Crouch from eighty yards all the time. He needed to just pretend it was Drogba.
hatespur
Trust me, last season Wayne Bridge was top. He provived several assists.
k_chelski
HOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hatespur
It says more about Drogba's ability to turn a long ball into a goal Kev.
hatespur
I didn't watch the game, but, well I guess he hada one off. Though to be honest, this season he wasn't so good either.I don't know why, he's an excellent left back when in form.
k_chelski
Nono, the assists were excellent, even heskey would've scored the ones drogba did.
k_chelski
and by heskey would've scored I mean - "heskey would've ,hit the ***** out of the ball until it went where he wanted it to".
k_chelski
You're going to miss Drogba incredibly when he goes to a club he likes.
hatespur
I thought the same thing about henry.
k_chelski
Touchay:) I think you'll find however that Henry loved Arsenal and simply felt he had done everything he could here. Drogba, on the other hand "felt sick" when he signed for you lot and wants out as soon as possible.
hatespur
A club can't force a player to go to another club, the player must agree on personal terms.That means drogba is just acting like a little bitch. I bet he doesn't feel sick on fridays.. Henry however, signed a big big contract , didn't play the whole year, and then left. ._.
k_chelski
hey rocky.. or anyone who can do it.. why isnt somebody changing the poll on this website.. that goalkeeping question has been on for ages...........................................
go4it_adi
Signing the new contract meant that Arsenal got a decent fee for him Kevin. Had he not signed the new contract he (the player) would have been the beneficiary of the majority of the money. I looked upon it as the honourable thing to do.
hatespur
next poll : Who has the worst haircut on the Arsenal squad? A) Mr.T B) Macaroni Sagna C) Campy Almunia.
k_chelski
It may have been... but he really betrayed you lot....
k_chelski
how on earth did he "betray" us??? He showed blind loyalty for far too long in my opinion. With him in the team we bacame lazy and predictable much of the time. Remind you of anyone?
hatespur
Adi - Any suggestions?
Rocky7
hatespur, a couple of days before he signed with barcelona. I remember an vital arsenal article that said Henry said he would be staying, and that he said it countless times he didn't want to leave arsenal, and that maybe he should buy a "I'm staying at arsenal t-shirt". And then.. well, you know the drill...
k_chelski
We haven't had a St. Tottering's day prediction this year yet have we?
hatespur
So you don't think that something happening behind the scenes may have changed his mind Kevin? Maybe Wenger said that he'd be prepared to accept an offer of 16 mil for a player of his age. Maybe he didn't get the assurance from Wenger about whether he'd commit to the club. Maybe his maritual problems had made him think that it was time to move on. Nobody knows, I personally believe he was told to negotiate with Barca by Wenger as we would be attempting to faze him out with RVP and Adebayor.
hatespur
Kev, those articles were quite a few months before he went, indeed they were even before David Dein went. In the week before Henry's departure he kept saying "I am an Arsenal player for now" We all knew he was off.
Rocky7
Rocky, I don't think it was more than a month.
k_chelski
A month is different to a couple of days kev, a lot can happen. A good friend could get fired, you could split up with your wife.....allsorts. No way did Henry ever betray us.
Rocky7
it's a couple of..thirty days...:p
k_chelski
Of course, whinging about the fact that Cole was insulted by Arsenal and he feels that he has a chance to get his own back, this is not at all the same as William Gallas who talks all the time about Chelsea.
EuroBlue
What's your point Euroblue??
Rocky7
Euroblue, don't even compare Gallas to Cole, Gallas has maintained that he doesn't have a problem with Chelsea or their fans, he had an exclusive problem with Mourinho, and as it happens Chelsea also have/had a problem with Mourinho. Cole on the other hand has openly bitched about his former team mates, the fans, the staff, the money. Then he goes on to make a point of kissing the Chelsea badge in front of the arsenal fans, this is after he had claimed he was a 'lifelong Arsenal fan', and let's not forget he arranged a meeting with Chelsea moments before a crucial game with Mun Utd...the list of his ****ery goes on. There are examples all over the world of players switching to their rivals, but non come close to the hateful actions and lies of ****bag Cole. Try to imagine John Terry in is prime doing what Cole has done, Cole's behaviour is incomparable to any other player in living memory.
Professor Calculus
Can someone point me to the most recent Gallas quote about Chelsea. The last one I remember is September 06.
Little Dutch
I don't care. Call me childish or whatever. I'd love to be bigger than this. But I don't care. The ******** deserves to be booed by 60,000 people and he chickened out last time. And at Stamford Bridge, nobody but Clichy cared to shake hands with him after the match. I still remember that hilarious scene where looked entirely embarrassed, not knowing what to do at the final whistle, though that was his "home" ground. Can't let him get away from what he deserves. I'd love it if Cesc/RvP (our fiery youngsters who had something with him before, or so I heard, and the ******** said in his book that Cesc was no Patrick or some cr@p like that) give him a hard time (Kolo/Clichy are too kind and the new guys probably don't hate him enough). I don't care. I want to see him entirely outplayed and booed to death. And yes, agree it'd be the BEST TIME for Clichy to score his first Arsenal goal, after all the hard work he's done, ideally after one of his amazing runs to the right side beating the ******** face to face. That I'd consider to stop booing him next time. :)
Louisa
Oh my, you quite vocal today, kev. The Arsenal vs Chelski match really fired you up.
BMF
Just a warm up, trying to switch back to wind up mode.
k_chelski
kev, you got a point with Bridge being better than Cashley at your club and yes, I'm putting my hatred for Cashley aside, especially since he spends a lot time injured during his time at Chelski. But I don't agree with you that Bridge is better than Clichy at this moment. Most likely we are not going to change our minds so lets end it there.
BMF
Who has the worst hair? Billy, Sagna or Alumina? Is there an option, "all of the above"? Seriously, as long as they keep playing well, they can braid their hair like Drogba did and show everyone they are going bald. in Sagna's case, he needs his predator locks, I remember when he got rid of them, he had a subpar performance. I guess, it's mental thing, this hair business.
BMF
Regarding Bridge/Cole/Clichy, I do agree with you, kev that when it comes to crossing the ball into the box Bridge is better than Clichy. His final balls could do some work. Clichy should learn more Sagna and Eboue on how to cross.
BMF
errrrr Ashley who ?
PUREGOLD
Bridge is *****. Like most England players he's wildly over rated, his defensive positioning is Championship standard.
Little Dutch
Prof - I dont think Gallas had a problem with Jose, it was more with Kenyon and the Chelsea top brass. Jose has not had one bad word to say about Gallas and nor has he. Euroblue, Gallas has not talked about Chelsea for a long time now. How you compare the situations is beyond me. Cole is a better LB than Bridge, though if Bridge had been allowed to develop, he might be better than he is right now. Right now, I'm more than happy to have Clichy at LB coz the scary thing is that we havent yet seen the best of him.
prits
Cole is better in the last 3rd (not that he gets there now as his sole requirement is to lamp it to Drogba), Bridge crosses the ball better and Clichy is the better defender and has the best all round game of the 3. He also has the benefit of understanding that a mobile phone's primary use is to call people.
hatespur
Song's hair isn't pretty either BMF, but for worst ever Arsenal haircut I nominate Cesc in the Community Shield game a few years back when he took Keano to school. It was like a cross between a mullet and Christiano Ronaldo's noodle cut.
Ozi Gooner
Cole WAS better in the last 3rd, HS. Not anymore, not for the last season anyway. Chelsea's style of play doesnt require that, and I thought that was the extra dimension to his play thats lacking now. Clichy's crossing and final ball can only get better, and its only a matter of time before his 1st goal coz he bombs forward so often.
prits
I would much prefer a left back who can defend with time to learn about the final ball like Clichy than a left back who cant defend with a good final ball like Bridge anyways.
Ozi Gooner
Bridge (like Cudicini, SWP,) went right down in my estimations as a professional when he made it clear that he'd rather earn 80,000 a week playing second fiddle than slightly less than that being considered first choice elsewhere. It tells you everything you need to know about them as individuals and why they are in the game.
hatespur
Clichy's final ball against United was a pearler.
Little Dutch
Bridge is widely underrated, for several times he was better than ashley cole, but was never given good opportunities.Last season he was fantastic, He gets out of position sometimes, but that's rare. This season he needs match fitness,He's unlucky with injury.
k_chelski
Hatespur, wayne bridge played ahead of ashley cole a couple of times, while cole was fit.But then he got another injury...
k_chelski
Probably an indicator of how far Cole's stock has fallen. If I was being very kind, on one of his better games, I would call Bridge average. His defensive naivety knows no bounds. He can cross a ball I grant, but his primary job is to defend. You wouldn't spend £10m on a striker who can't score because he's a good tackler (ahem, Alan Smith).
Little Dutch
Just for the record Gallas behaved like a baby when he was trying to leave Chelsea. If Drogba is fed up then at least he's behaving honourably and giving it his all until he gets a chance to go. I don't see him refusing to play like the infant Gallas. Whether Gallas has got a problem with us or not I have certainly got a problem with him. Even Cole would'nt have threatened not to play just to get his own way and I'm certainly his biggest fan. Hatespur, once you've played for the best there's no point going anywhere else. Why should they go elsewhere.
tjay
He's not the greatest defender, but neither is belletti, but they both are excellent going forward, and we have a strong defence no worries. Let's see what Bridge does this season. Hopefully he'll get back at his peak, and we'll see who was right or wrong.
k_chelski
When did Gallas refuse to play? As far as I remember he was involved in every game he was fit for. He even scored the opeining goal in the title clinching game against Man Utd. And if he refused why didn't Chelsea sue him for breach of contract?
Little Dutch
He said he had a stomach ache, or a head ache.He also threatened to score an own goal. -.-
k_chelski
Kevin, that is the biggest load of ********* I have ever heard mate. What ever you think personally of Gallas there is no way he would have said that, if he did you could sue. That was pettiness on the part of Kenyon, and being petty is one of his main qualities. *********!
Ozi Gooner
If gallas didn't threaten to score an own goal, why didn't he sue chelsea? It applies both ways.
k_chelski
and how can you prove that someone doesn't have a headache?
k_chelski
This is well known. Chelsea released a statement saying Gallas refused to play against Liverpool. Why the devil would Chelsea want to sue Gallas. What would we gain by that. It’s more interesting to note that Gallas did not sue Chelsea. Also if we leave petty minded debates behind there may have been more to this than we know. I think both Gallas and Cole have behaved appallingly to their former clubs. The point I want to make really is you lot seem to be obsessed with Ashley Cole and believe that all your players are as pure as gold. I don’t like what Gallas did to us but I’m not going to get obsessed by it. No matter what we’re still going to beat you next month.
tjay
Oh and, Gallas also refused to train in our pre-season.
k_chelski
Maybe he felt that it was disrespectful of the club that he had honoured for so long and served very well to give his shirt to another mercenary plaything of the mafioso without consulting him. It's all well and good to expect professionalism from your players, but maybe a little reciprocation from your club may have prevented a fallout. Anyway, I'm glad the whole sorry affair happened as it appears to be beneficial to Arsenal.
hatespur
Too *****in' right hatespur, the difference is your club also acted a pack of ****s even if Gallas did also, Arsenal did nothing wrong in the Cole affair, but again your lot did (unless offering 55k a week for a left back is doing something wrong). Who cares Cole's a ****, Gallas is a ****, whatever, but who got the better deal? And even more to the point I like Billy all the more for you lot not liking him.
Ozi Gooner
Hatespur, nice try but chelsea stripped him of his shirt because he failed to attend pre-season , and didn't give any explanation . Ballack was originally going to play with the number 19.
k_chelski
tjay - this article is about Cole mouthing off about Arsenal. How exactly does that make us obsessive about him? I'm not going to defend Gallas' actions while he was at Chelsea, coz frankly, I dont give a *****. But he denied saying he would score an own goal. He didnt attend pre-season, so the club took away his jersey number. Cole was guilty of being involved in tapping up, coz he didnt get a pay raise. Surely thats the same situation, only if you are in chav land !!
prits
Kevin, we are never going to agree on this but as our antipodean friend has stated, Arsenal acted with great restraint and honour all thirough the sordid saga and even wished the rat faced little phone smuggler all the best at his new club. Whatever you think of the 2 players, there is only one club that came out of it with any credit and it wasn't Chelsea. As I have said previously, I think we got the better deal, so Chelsea's flagrant abuse of the rules only served to show themselves in a bad light (again) and Arsenal benefitted from that.
hatespur
There is a difference in the way we treat our players. Cole wants to leave and we let him. Henry wants to go - ok we'll set it up for him. Gallas or Drogba wants away from Chelsea? They can rot in the reserves. Diarra wants lt leave? Like Gallas okept waiting until the eleventh hour as the deal is dragged out. If you want players to treat the club with respect you first have to respect them.
Amos.
We needed a reliable left back, ashley cole is younger than gallas. And even if Cole isn't like the old cole, he's still a good left back.
k_chelski
Both of your examples were a Chelsea - Arsenal transfer. Selling to your rival is never good, I doubt Arsene likes it either.Drogba renewed his contract last season. He is either bipolar, or a really sun of bitch.We didn't let Gallas go because we didn't have a reliable left back. look at Robben, he wanted to go, and we let him.
k_chelski
hatespur, I'm I the antipodean? If so, what does that even mean?
Ozi Gooner
Crespo wanted to go back to italy, no one bought him. We loaned him to inter, and WE payed his contract. This season, we gave him to inter, for free. We payed Veron's wages , and then released him.
k_chelski
So your lot are just ****s when it comes to dealing with Arsenal then, oh well I suppose thats alright. Muppet.
Ozi Gooner
Nothing detrimental Ozi "Pertaining to the opposite side of the World" is the shortest official OED description.
hatespur
Kevin, is it right that your lot have appealed against Essien's assault on Miller at the weekend??
hatespur
Yes we are Ozi. So is Arsenal with Chelsea, Arsenal with Manchester, Manchester with Liverpool, etc. Selling a quality player to a direct rival is nonsense.
k_chelski
No player should ever think he’s bigger than the club that goes for Cole, Gallas or anyone. Gallas had clearly set out his stall long before his shirt number was given to someone else so that’s a ridiculous argument. Not sure it was to your benefit but it was certainly detrimental to us considering the injuries we had to our central defenders last year. The lack of cover definitely cost us the league.
tjay
You were going to get Cole so the Gallas left back question didn't arise. We had accepted that Cole wanted to join his London mates at Chelsea and agreed for him to do so. All Chelsea had to do was accept that Gallas wanted to go to Arsenal and both could have had a decent pre-season at their new clubs without accusation and counter-accusation in the press. Similar situation applied to Diarra. Whether the club is entirely happy or not you would expect them to be adult about it and accept when a situation is inevitable and ultimately in everyones best interests.
Amos.
and yes we appealed.
k_chelski
"I doubt Arsene likes it either". Kevin do you realise that you have summed up the difference in class between our 2 clubs with that statement???
hatespur
With the statement that chelsea doesn't like to sell to rivals, and neither does Arsene?
k_chelski
Wenger didn't publicly criticise Cole through the whole thing which is why you can only "doubt" he didn't like it. Chelsea continued to chuck mud at Gallas for months afterwards. As tjay has said "No player should ever think he’s bigger than the club", but then again the club need to act bigger than a couple of tantrum throwing superstars. Chelsea merely added fuel to the fire.
hatespur
Cole didn't threaten to score an own goal did he? Cole didn't ditch his team mates in pre-season did he? Both acted really stupid, both treated the club that made what they are , incredibly bad. But I guess rivals act differently. Chelsea isn't inferior to Arsenal just because we decided to fight back his bullying, which hurt him.
k_chelski
News just in Essien appeal rejected http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2007/11/27/Prem-Essien-appeal-dismissed/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/
Jaybods
You're missing the point. The last time I checked Ashley Cole and William Gallas were players, not a club. We have agreed that both players acted in a disgraceful manner. The point is that Chelsea (Football Club sic) should have been bigger than that and acted accordingly. "we decided to fight back his bullying", that is just abosutely unique. Priceless. HAHAHAHAHHAHA. Coming from a fan of Chelsea. Oh, the irony.
hatespur
He should be banned for an extra match for having the audacity to lodge an appeal. Last time I played if I had checked to belt someone in the mooey i'd have expected to be sent off.
hatespur
lol, Mr.T takes bullying to a new level.
k_chelski
He used to bully other chelsea players. Terry said he had to stand up for himself and for others when Mr.T got her period...
k_chelski
Amos - if it was that easy Cole would have been at Chelsea a lot sooner. Hatespur, pot kettle, black , springs to mind when you sermonise about leaving things alone. Arsenal could have quite easily have been grown up and accepted that Cole had the right to talk to other teams regardless of the ridiculous rules regarding “illegal approaches” to players. After all it’s not as if Arsenal are exactly innocent of that.
tjay
tjay - the rules are in place, Chelsea and Cole broke them and Arsenal had every right to follow that up with the FA. There is a difference between that and claiming in the press that one of your players threatened to score an own goal.
prits
hey rocky.. mind putting in a poll about the most hated player by arsenal fans?? i can name a few.. cashley " ****" cole.. paul "fatboy" robinson.. wayne looney.. lily savage.. etc etc.. try adding any other names that come to mind....
go4it_adi
Don't know where in the rules it states that it is acceptable to breach your contract or threaten to score own goals. What Gallas did was much worse on a personal level. Cole's was a bit Stupid on Chelsea's part but I for one believe players should'nt have to stay somewhere they don't want to be.
tjay
tjay, your wafer thin argument falls down to the simplest scrutiny. Gallas played against Liverpool in that semi final, so how can anyone say he refused to play? Gallas was intent on suing Chelsea but Wenger advised him to let sleeping dogs lie and not get involved, again elucidating the difference between the two clubs. I also seem to remember a headline on the Chelsea website at the time saying, "shut up Domenech and Thuram," over the whole Makelele debate. Whilst the sentiment wasn't entirely unjustified, to have that something that childish on the website, the mouth's official mouthpiece is unique. If Gallas threatened to score own goals, why did Mourinho keep playing him? Surely that would be a huge risk to a club involved in a charge for the Domestic double? Gallas scored the opening goal in the United game which ultimately sealed your triumph. Chelsea's claims simply do not stand up to the slightest analysis. Gallas asked to leave the club with a year left on his contract and they told him to rot in the reserves, as has been said by tohers, respect is a two way street, a mutual bond that is earned.
Little Dutch
Knowing Gallas as the crazy mofo he is.I doubt he'd listen to Wenger.
k_chelski
Right Kevin, it's hard to get Gallas to listen to anyone. But apparently Wenger's one of the very few people to whom Gallas listens now. Part of it is the magic of a piece of fabric called the captain's armband, fair enough. But I'm 100% sure the fact that Wenger's one of the most respectable managers in the world has got something to do with the dramatic change in Gallas.
Louisa
And let's only say things as facts when they're proven. Gallas definitively denied that he threatened to score an own goal, despite Chelsea/Kenyon's claims. Can we not keep saying that's what he did as if it's the truth - give people the fair benefit of the doubt until proven guilty please, gentlemen.
Louisa
Louisa, when chelsea made that statement, gallas wasn't captain, and he was playing as a left back. I think it was one week after he moved, hardly enough time for gallas to listen to wenger.Considering Wenger sued Mourinho (or was going to) .
k_chelski
Kevin, how long does it take for you to conduct a conversation then?? If somebody I respected and trusted tried to convince me that I'd be best served to ignore slanderous comments and I happened to agree, it may be a ten minute chat.
hatespur
You could be right, or I could be right.Or we both could be wrong, that fact is both gallas and cole didn't respect the club they were playing for.
k_chelski
I thought we had concluded on that while back kev ;). Wasnt the discussion centred around how the clubs behaved, and how Chelsea could have handled it better, instead of 'responding to the bullying' ?
prits
Chelsea could've handled in a different way, less controversial.But it doesn't make Chelsea inferior to Arsenal just because it didn't behave like Arsenal. Aren't some of you lot going to boo Ashley Cole? And some of you will ignore him.Does it make the booers inferior to the non booers?Afraid not.
k_chelski
I'm afraid Chelsea handled the situation with a lot less class than Arsenal did. I'm not sure if that makes the whole club inferior to Arsenal.
prits
I wasn't referring to Chelsea's statement Kevin... -___-' I said "now" Wenger happens to be one of the few people Gallas listens to. I was just saying now, and in general, Arsenal/Wenger have changed the guy. That's all I was saying. I didn't even care if it was Wenger who made him drop the idea of suing Chelsea or whatever. Gallas just said he'd stop complaining about how he was treated at Chelsea (reportedly on Wenger's advice, but that's not important) and might "tell the truth" some time later. Who knows. And I agree both players behaved badly. But like prits keeps saying, we just thought Arsenal showed more class in the whole transfer, that's all. And Gallas is kind of a changed man now, or at least he's changed a lot of his behaviour. Again, because of Wenger, captaincy, fatherhood or whatever happening to him, we don't quite care. What we can see is that Cashley is the same Cashley and will probably never change.
Louisa
You did well to get rid of this primma donna when you did. He's been rubbish since he went to Chelsea. 2 best English left backs are now Baines and Shorey. Cole and Bridge should both be axed.
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