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FA Should Allow Appeal FOR Red Cards

FA Should Allow Appeal FOR Red Cards

After reading Amos' excellent piece on refereeing and red cards, a thought occurred to me; should clubs be allowed to appeal FOR red cards as well as against.

Robbie Keane was sent from the field in a rather humorous, but controversial match at White Hart Lane yesterday. The tackle he committed has become somewhat of a talking point, but many seem to be coming down on the side of the Irishman.

Of course Spurs are set to appeal the decision, as most clubs would, but this brings up an interesting thought.

As we all know, the English Football Association is a stubborn bunch, 'cowards' some may say, but at the very least, a daft bunch. Rules implemented by this governing body say that any incident seen, and dealt with by the match official can NOT be pursued any further following the game, effectively calling their referees infallible.

However, rather hypocritically, there are rules in place that allow clubs who feel that red cards awarded to their players have done so harshly to appeal against this decision. Any player who have their red cards rescinded have effectively gotten the FA to admit their officials made a mistake.

So if the FA allow this, why not allow the reverse??

Whilst the Robbie Keane's tackle was somewhat debatable, there was another tackle this weekend that wasn't. As Liverpool put in another impressive display against struggling Bolton, former scouser, El-Haji Diouf committed one of the most horrendous tackles you will ever see on Liverpool's Arbeloa.

In this instance the referee 'saw' the tackle and, rather amazingly, brandished a yellow card. If we are to follow the FA's letter of the law, this issue is now dead. Even though it is quite clear that the tackle was a sending off offence (and, in my opinion, a further five match ban) the Football Association claim 'their hands are tied' (by their own stupid rules).

However, if under certain situations football clubs are allowed to call into question a refereeing decision to have a red card downgraded due to human error, surely it only be fair that Liverpool ask the FA to upgrade Diouf's yellow card to a red, in the interest of continuity.

Or maybe the FA could just abolish this ridiculous 'If he saw it, it's dealt with' rule.

Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas?

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Writer:Rocky7
Date:Monday December 3 2007
Time: 3:35PM

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I think you called it right when you say the FA needs to change its daft rules. I dont know how many of the rules are passed down from FIFA/UEFA but it seems that week after week the FA hide behind the 'we're just following the rules' line. Keane will face an automatic ban for a run of the mill foul, while Diouf will face no action for a tackle that was ten times worse.
gazzap
03/12/2007 16:54:00
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It just makes no sense to me that even the most obvious of red cards that has been appealed against has to be put before a panel, yet when a player who has committed the most horrendous of challenges and gets a yellow card, then their hands are tied "beause of a rule" - "But don't you make the rules?" - "Yes" - "Well can't you change them?" - "No" - "Why?" - "Because our hands are tied". Bunch of buffoons!!
Rocky7
03/12/2007 17:04:00
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Good point, and high time the rules were changed. I find this appeal process quite pointless anyway - how many times do you actually hear of a red card being rescinded? The FA are simply not willing to admit that the refs are fallible. If their fear is that that would undermine the ref, what they need to understand is that this inability to change the rules is undermining the reputation of FA.
prits
03/12/2007 17:40:00
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Good idea Rocky. Arsene suggested something similar to eliminate diving from the game. It would be easy to do. We have a dubious goals panel which has the power to change the ref's decision in awarding a goal. Why not a dubious decisions panel when it is clear that the camera angle provides a better view of an incident than the referee had? Reward good play and punish bad play and you end up with better game. There is nothing to fear in such actions.
Amos.
03/12/2007 21:10:00
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How about they get some qualified referees?Then none of this would be necessary.And their hands wouldn't be tied.
k_chelski
03/12/2007 21:14:00
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In fairness kev, ref's do have a hard job and are bound to miss things (though ***** knows how the ref at the Liverpool game missed Diouf's "challenge") without wanting to turn this into a ref slagging thread, where is the harm in changing a decision when serious foul play is involved. Players might think twice about being reckless if they knew they could recieve a worse punishment after the match. This crappy ruling only has players thinking if they can get away with it with the refs then they are in the clear. The FA are truly stupid.
Rocky7
03/12/2007 21:32:00
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The thing is, the F.A (under media pressure I might add, showing where their bread is truly buttered) last season went back on this rule. Thatcher's assault on Mendes was seen by the ref and he gave a yellow card, but after media outcry, the F.A decided they could make an exception and banned Thatcher for six matches retrospectively. So one wonders just how watertight this rule that the F.A hide behind is. I see nothing wrong with giving refs all the help they need.
Little Dutch
03/12/2007 21:40:00
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I think they need better trainning, that's it.Not just english refs, all refs. Maybe two refs on the pitch?That wouldn't hurt.
k_chelski
03/12/2007 21:40:00
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Seeing as this thread is regarding cards, are any of you guys watching the Man U game. Rooney blatantly swore at the ref and linesman for an offside decision that was quite clearly offside and it went unpunished. Not only that, Ronaldo was booked for diving rightly or wrongly, but then proceeded to applaud the ref right in front of the refs very eyes. Surely this should be a second yellow card?
flv
03/12/2007 21:46:00
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And now for exactly the same kind of outburst as Rooney, Fulham's Davies has been booked. Yep, I know I'm picking holes but a bit of cosistency would be a good thing I reckon.
flv
03/12/2007 21:51:00
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