UK time is: 10:17:47
Vital Login
Social Login

Choose your club

Other Sites

Network Navigation

Vital Partners

'If It's Football, It's Vital'

Two Points Dropped

It's now just gone 6am, having just arrived home from the game, any prospect of sleep is compromised by the fact that I have to leave for work imminently, so I write my report now whilst still full of caffiene. It's probably a measure of how far we have come this season that this is the most deflated I have felt after a match since the defeat to West Ham back in April. As we made our long, long journey Northwards, the talk on the Travel Club coach was of how an early goal would kill Newcastle off. Newcastle are a side that is winless in six games and clearly suffering a crisis of confidence, in harmony with the fact that they cannot defend for beans. Arsenal meanwhile are still unbeaten in the league and with the chance to go six points clear at the top, well you can see where I'm going here? Having got the early goal we wished for, I'll be frank, I think Arsenal bottled it. We had a great opportunity to build on our advantage and kill Newcastle off. But some sloppiness together with some bizarre tactical shape shiftings from the manager have rendered this draw feeling like an emotional defeat.

Those that have been in the visitors enclosure at St. James' Park will realise that your match day experience is akin to watching subbuteo, the away section is entrenched high in the Gods of the North West corner. This also means no less than fourteen flights of stairs as you make your way to your seats. Fortunately, I've been enough times to know that there is a lift well hidden right next to the away turnstiles, being that I suffer from arthritis in my knees, I am afforded the mercy of a comfortable escalation. As we arrived to our seats the 3,000 strong travelling Gooners were in good voice. Our vocal chords found new recourse after just four minutes. With the first attack of the game, Lassana Diarra dispossessed N'Zogbia before flighting an inch perfect pass to Adebayor, he brilliantly chested the ball down before dispatching a powerful volley past Shay Given. The early goal we had wished for had arrived and nobody doubted we would feed on the home sides fragile confidence with solicitous gusto. But Newcastle would foreshadow the pattern of the remainder of the game in an instant. Milner took on Sagna on the right, before delivering a wicked cross which Geremi headed inches wide.

It looked as though Arsenal had set up to soak up the Geordie pressure before hitting them on the break. Perfect I thought. Diarra once again muscled Newcastle out of possession, before playing in Adebayor on the left flank, but he did not spot Eduardo's untracked run in the centre and instead forced a save from Given from a tight angle. Wenger then made a bizarre tactical misgiving, having given Eduardo all of fifteen minutes to shine upfront, he pushed the Crozilian out to the wing. It was a curious decision that handicapped us in Seville, and did so again last night. Eduardo looked understandably lost on the flank, and Adebayor could not get the requisite support to make anything happen. Why we didn't allow Eduardo to play to his strengths in the penalty area, particularly against a defence as shabby as Newcastle's, baffles me. This was the starting point of Arsenal's surrender when more bravery would have probably seen us collect three points. Arsenal's threat pretty much curtailed there, save for Gilberto's hooked effort from a Rosicky corner. It invited the home side onto us, and it was a chance they accepted with glee.

Allardyce reverted to the Bolton model, using set pieces and long throw ins to unsettle us. Alan Smith played the Kevin Davies role to perfection, that is to say he did absolutely bugger all the times he got on the ball, but used his elbows to try and rattle Gallas and Toure. Another in a catalogue of unnecesaary fouls in Smith's career saw him clatter Toure with the ball well in Almuni's grasp. But with Wenger surrendering one of our key forward outlets, the Barcodes were able to pen us in and maintain the pressure. Steven Taylor headed an N'Zogbia corner goalwards, only to see it cleared off the line by Gael Clichy. A succession of whipped crosses and long throws had the away fans gasping pensively. It got worse in the second half, still Eduardo remained on the wing and Arsenal simply could not retain the ball upfront. A rare breakaway saw Rosicky evade two Newcastle challenges, before slipping the ball wide to Eboue who smashed his shot straight at Given. In an attempt to alleviate the pressure, Sagna took a quite embarassing tumble under the challenge of Smith. For possibly the first time in his career, Smith was not guilty of leaving his foot in and Sagna was rightly booked. Had Eboue been guilty of the same misdemeanour, I'm sure a lot of Arsenal fans would be clammering for his sale, but I'm willing to wager that Sagna's crime will go somewhat ignored by most Arsenal fans.

The pressure became more intense and Newcastle snatched an equaliser that their tireless industry merited. I just can't help feeling that Arsenal invited it all on themselves. Eduardo, shrouded by his discomfort on the left wing, was crowded out by Geremi on the touchline, his cross was flicked on by Smith and Steven Taylor was unmarked on the backpost to turn the ball in off the post. The similarity between Taylor's goal and Gardner's for Villa on Saturday is cause for concern. Bendtner came on and the Gunners' had a little more presence upfront. The Gunners' probably should have had a late penalty as Rosicky and Adebayor played a one two in the box and Ade was held with the goal teasing him. Seconds later, as Arsenal poured forward on the counter attack, Adebayor was again prevented from running onto Toure's long ball as Taylor hauled him to the ground. The linesman gave nothing and incensed Wenger, as well as your writer, as he was seen having a cosy chat with Fat Sam on the touchline just seconds after the incident. Injury time became a nail chomping time high in the away section as Newcastle forced four consecutive corners, Taylor's header scrambled away by Eboue in the six yard box. But the Gunners' held out for the point, which shorn of Hleb, Fabregas and van Persie doesn't look so bad. But we are very guilty of not consolidating an early advantage and these very obtainable two points could prove very costly in the run in.LD.




Use your social login to comment on front page articles. Login using you Facebook, Twitter, Google or LinkedIn accounts and have your say!



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Join the Vital Fantasy Football League - its Free!

The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday December 6 2007

Time: 6:34AM

Your Comments

Shut up mate. It was one point gained as far as I could see.
Goofle
i would have to go for two points dropped.. seeing that newcastle are not in the best of forms.. anyways.. seeing that we were shorn of our 3 best attacking players aka fab, hleb abd persie.. its not a bad result at all.. puts us 4 clear of united.. just hope we dont drop any at the riverside before we welcome the scum from west london to the emirates....
go4it_adi
Goofle, to tell one of our senior members, match report writers & and all round good egg to "shut up" after travelling the length of the country, and then with no sleep writing an excellent match report for all Arsenal fans to read is bang out of order. Either sort yourself out or you needn't bother returning.

LD, great write up mate, and echo's what most Gooners are feeling, frustration. With both Hleb & Fabregas abcsent we certainly missed our creative edge. It was a dire performance, and one which only Diarra came out with any credit to his name!!
Rocky7
I felt tht we would get only a point considering our injuries and Newcastle's desperation for a result.. so it is a point well earned in that sense.. but of course, I'm dissapointed that we couldn't capitalize on our early lead.. tht's twice now.. we almost conceded against Villa and this.. we need to be careful.. Boro away cud be a banana skin.
arsenalrulz4ever
Two points dropped as you say LD. Ade missed a good chance to put Eduardo in early on as you pointed out and also messed up a ball to Eboue in a similar position shortly after. If we had gone 2 up then switching to 4-5-1 might have made some sense but it just allowed them to play higher up the pitch and crowding our space. We didn't have the midfield to cope with that as well as we do with Hleb, Falm and Cesc playing. Going to 4-4-2 with Bendtner on created more space for Ade. As Wenger has said the 'crisis' Newcastle were supposedly having, turned the game into a more fevered affair than it might have been and this probably made up Deans mind for him when failing to give either of the 2 clear fouls on Ade breaking towards the box late on.
Amos.
I'm feeling really frustrated, these two points along with the two dropped points at Blackburn and Pool could prove really costly in the end. we should actually have 4 more points at the moment. just hope Cesc and co will be back as soon as possible cuz we need every1 back now..
luckys_10
You were lucky as feck to get a point there, playing like that. Starting to crumble eh? Perfect timing...
Blue is the colour
We really need to get our act together at the back, we are letting in some really poor goals at the moment, We also need to get back that killer edge we had because at the moment we are letting too many teams back into games we should have finished off.
AB_Arsenal
BITC - Could you please come up with a different phrase please, you a, like your team, very boring.
Rocky7
Good call there LD, 2 pts dropped it certainly is. Based on the performance on the day, though, I'd say a point was what we deserved. Scrappy game overall, and the formation cannot be completely blamed for so many misplaced passes. Newcastle fought well, not overly physical. The ref had a good game, till the last 5 mins with those free kicks not given. Sagna was out of order, making a meal of that challenge, but I will be patient with him LD, coz this is his 1st misdemeanour, unlike Eboue, who would have received more flak. I dont see the contradiction here. For the 2nd game running, Toure runs 30 yards towards the ref, unnecessary, and disappointing. But the commentary was a joke - that Toure sprint received more criticism than the actual foul by Barton who had no intention of playing the ball. Esp in the 1st half, I thought the Arsenal players complained to the ref too much.
prits
The wheels are starting to come of!!! Adebayor apart from his goal was the worst player on the pitch and his attitude towards his team mates was a bit like our very own mr Berbatov. He is running about acting like Henry with silly facial expressions and shouting at others. How f*****g dumb was he when he ran infront of Rosicky demanding the ball when he was clearly off-side and then having the cheek to have a right go at him afterwards or when he had the chance to play a simple pass to Eduardo who was through on goal. A draw to boro and lose's to chelsea and the mighty whites will all but end your title hopes!! COYS
sport
lol Sport, you first beat Sunderland, then dream of even getting anything against the top 15 sides in the league..
luckys_10
I reckon the gunners will pick up two points from their next two games and blow the title race wide open, as a neutral watching last night I would say it was a point gained
Eusebio
we'll see what happens Eusebio, i wouldn't be suprised if we pick up 9 points in our next three league matches..
luckys_10
LOl sport, sure the wheels are coming off after one draw against Newcastle !! This guy is pure comedy. But surely, we would have lost had Theo played. So I'm sure you will find that a positive. I agree that it was rather stupid of Ade to demand the ball from Rosicky when he was clearly off side, but the worst player, he certainly was not.
prits
iF A DRAW MEANS THE WHEELS ARE COMING OFF, AND THAT YOU ARE "CRUMBLING" YOU KNOW YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD SEASON AND YOUR OPPONENTS FEAR YOU!
Little Dutch
Nice one LD you're a legend mate, writing a report after being up all night, gutted about the result though, but a point away to a fat sam orcball team is not necessarily a bad result, although most would have expected us to come away with all 3
TR7
LD, I understand your frustration at that result/performance but it was always going to happen. I wanted the barcodes to win or at least draw against Blackburn because otherwise they were always going to give 200% against us rather than carrying on in the same poor vein as they were, & unfortunately thats whats happened. Come their next match they will go back to being awful & keep harping on about how well they played against Arsenal. People must also remember that we played a very physical game on saturday afternoon against Villa where we barely got the ball in the 2nd half, so this was never going to help having to play again up north. Whilst I fully expect us to beat Boro on sunday I don't for 1 minute believe we will put in any sort of decent performance as it appears none of the injured players are back, including Flamini, so he can't rotate (although having said that I would drop Gilberto & play Denilson who is slightly more attack minded). The fact is Man Utd, Liverpool & Chelski will all drop points over the Christmas & New Year period, so whilst the result was frustrating I really don't think it will matter in the long run.
Ashburton Gooner
Watched the game, thought draw was a fair result. I don't think it was 2 points drop, I'm sure at the start of the season you would have been happy with a point at the Toon. Me thinks maybe you guys are getting a little ahead of yourselves, if you had played well and only drawn. Then I would say Yeh! it's 2 points drop, but that was probably the worse I have seen the Gooners play this season.
Topspur1
Prits you'll find that Adebayor throughout his career has been a problem for many diiferent coaches. He already used United to get a better contract and would be of in the morning if a big club came in with a serious offer just like he did to Monaco. He has a bad attitude and an ego way beyond his playing ability. He didnt play for the team last night he played for himself. Boro will grind out a draw against you and chelsea will cut you down to size which will just leave us to put the final nail in the coffin.
sport
Sport, if Arsenal aren't a 'Big Club' then what does that make Spurs??.........................Just looking at the 'Big Clubs' fixture lists over this festive period & I would say Chelski have the hardest ones, Arsenal & Man Utd's are pretty similar although I think ours is probably a slight bit harder due to the Portsmouth away game & Liverpool have the easiest time.
Ashburton Gooner
Considering we were shorn of our entire first-choice midfield and that Newcastle had us under the cosh for most of the game (sublime goal aide Ade went right off the boil, his passing was poor), you can't say this was "2 points dropped". It's a game we would have lost last season, and you all know it. It's a hard-earned point and we did well to get it. Everone needs to get some perspective. I appreciate there is a sense of deflation amongst Arsenal fans because we did not "show up" to the game in the way we have recently. But they're not all going to be walk-overs, especially with a lot of injuries and in a harsh Northern away game against a team fighting for their lives and their boss (and basically turning into Bolton - that must be nice for them). Ignore the Spud trolls - their team is a joke and so are they. The sad thing is they know it but have spent so long shouting at the rain they don't know how to do anything else.
Moorish
*Sublime goal ASIDE, I should say
Moorish
More comedy from sport. Final nail in the coffin? Isnt that what you were claiming over the summer too ? Ade may have had attitude problems in the past, but nothing significant over the last 2 seasons and thats all I care about. Everytime he does an interview, its down to earth and reasonable, feet firmly on the gground. A couple of poor judgment errors last night doesnt make him a bad ego or a selfish player.
prits
lol Sport's comments, great for comedy there mate. God would be terrible if a 'big' club came in for him, heaven forfend! Anyways, think the title's a bit harsh, unfortunately i couldn't get the time off work so am in a slightly different camp to the travelling gooners. But it did make me realise how much i ****kin hate Andy Gray!
AFC85Lew
Talking of Andy Gray, did you hear the sheer disappointment in his voice when in the last 10 minutes or so Nicky Butt had a shot & it went over!! I don't care if the commentators etc don't like Arsenal, however when they are fronting a show that both sets of fans & many neutrals are watching, they could at least be professional.
Ashburton Gooner
Anyone who doesnt think that Adebayors attitude to his fellow team mates was anything short of disgraceful needs to take their rose tinted blinkers of.
sport
My rationale for saying we have dropped two points is clear. I know we've drawn a potentially tough away game without playing well, my point is it was all so unneccessary. We gave ourselves a great start against a side shattered for confidence while we're flying, the fans were salivating for the chance to get on the team and manager's back, and we ALLOWED them back into the game when we didn't have to. I honestly don't think it would have taken much to win the game, but we sat back which was inexplicable given Newcastle's shoddy defence. I cannot for the life of me understand how Adebayor's attitude was a disgrace, he was frustrating in the way he can be sometimes, in that he'll shield the ball brilliantly, beat three players, then misplace a simple pass. But he worked his ********* off for the team as he always does and scored a cracking goal to boot. He passed the ball at every available opportunity, was never selfish and never stopped running. The problem was that he lacked support, which is ultimately down to a bizarre tactical switch from the manager. I felt for Eduardo, he was given all of 15 mins to prove himself upfront and this will have shot his confidence further.
Little Dutch
have you found a new club for the fanny Berbatov yet?
G4L
Two points dropped for the Arsescum. You lot are by far the more superior team, so if I was one of you lot,( thank f u c k I aint), then I would be angry. Newcastle are avaerge at best.
Real Deal
LD, I think people are basing their opinion on a couple of incidents that happened yesterday: 1. he didn't see or decided to not to pass to Eduardo (although I think he was setting him up later) when our no.9 was clear; 2. his reaction to Rosicky not passing to him although he was clearly offside. I bet when he sees that again he'll realize how stupid that was. I am sure that the boss will deal with this stuff sooner than later. What bugs me is the constant use of 4-5-1 when RvP is injured, even though we have the personnel for 4-4-2. And for once I think Ade+Bendtner should start together against physical teams like Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn tire their defence to death and then put in Eduardo/Walcott to finish them off.
G4L
Bwahahaha! Now you are in mini crisis. This is a chance for us!
Bosko-Macedonia
I am disapointed. Really riled myseld up for the win especially considering the early goal. Great write up LD, pretty much captured my thoughts on the game.
Gunnerman
Scum fans and Bosko there need to take a look at the table. Bye-bye
G4L
"He passed the ball at every available opportunity" LD Check out the game at 16min19secs when he decided not to give it to Eduardo.
sport
He didn't decide not to pass to Eduardo, the problem was he didn't have his head up and didn't see him.
Little Dutch
It's hard to say what went on their, but for me it looked like he ignored Eduardo. I find it very difficult to believe he didn't know he was their, but at the end of the day only Adebayor has the answer to that.
Topspur1
Well I was right on top of Adebayor for that incident, and it was clear he had his head down for the whole run, he didn't glance up, that was the problem.
Little Dutch
the cracks are starting to appear!! your were fortunate last nite, that was not the usual Francenal performance and i think after seeing it a point was a good result for you!! the wheels are falling off!! just in time for the BIG london derby
SMOKIEJACK
I must admit I am hooked onto this website. LD excellent work , very proffesional indeed, and all you guys have intresting insights in the game. From a layman's point of view,Ade let the team down this time. Apart from scoring the lone goal. He lost possesion countless times and failed to make passes count. Gilberto shouldnt complain for first team football either. He was soo disintrested. Cant wait for Flamster, he would,ve won us the game with his " never say die attitude."
Readgunner
I think Ade's performance wasn't great, but to say he let us down is a step too far, there was no lack of effort. We saw the best and worst of Gilberto last night, some of his interceptions and tackling were excellent, but some of his passing was wayward. In honesty, I think he's behind the Flamster and Diarra at the moment. Smokijack, if you really believed the wheels were coming off, you wouldn't scuttle over here after a draw away from home to make such a proclamation. If you really believed it, you would have bided your time for a defeat or two and then said it. But no, one sniff of gin and your knickers were around your ankles.
Little Dutch
Fckin mother's ruin, does that to some people. Readgunner you're off the mark there mate. Gilberto will need a few games under his belt for Jan. Thought Diarra showed some true quaity last night, exciting talent, still i wish we'd paid 's to sign Obi Wan instead .....
AFC85Lew
Three points would've been good but I think Newcastle outfought us because they really needed it. Yes Adebayor's decision making is suspect but he's playing with different players around him, who make different runs. Not a major issue for me, the kind of game we play it takes time to know each others movement off the ball. None of the four to be back for 'boro game I see. Clichy looked a bit off yesterday, Gilberto hasn't been playing much so I think that's responsible for his lack of sharpness. I'd like to see Bendy get a start. Didn't like seeing Sagna rolling about though. Good report LD.
saisho
Why did Wenger only make a single sub? I wonder if some fresh legs (Walcott and Denilson) would have pegged newcastle back a little, given them something to think about. Gilberto has played so little in recent times, maybe 90 minutes is a bit much.
afri-gooner
LD! I have to hand it to you, great turn of phrase lol!!!
Topspur1
Why is Ade getting so much flak? He didnt put in his normal good performance, but we didnt hold the ball in mid field, didnt use width that much, lost possession too easily. A lot of players take responsibility for that performance, not just him. And its hilarious to see some rival fans here wetting their pants after an Arsenal away DRAW, proclaiming that the wheels are coming off.
prits
Check out the picture on AM it clearly shows him looking across to Eduardo http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35131&start=360
sport
I hope this is a one off and trips to and from N/C wont be like Bolton. Big S knows how to play us wherever he goes. And whatever he told Beye, I found him one of the dirtiest players, especially the shirt pulling bussiness. I must say there crowd was excellent. They played a big part in getting that result.
Readgunner
So much for LD's excuse that he didnt see Eduardo.........
sport
Beye's tug back was no worse than Diarra's & both were punished, quite rightly so. What I did find amazing was that Taylor also done exactly the same thing in a much more dangerous area & got away with it. why? He should've been sent off for two bookable offences if you include his blatant blocking off of Adebayor later on, yet he didn't even receive a yellow card, I wonder if it's because he's english!!..............I also don't understand this reaction from certain people to Sagna, I ask anyone to watch the replay of that incident & tell me his leg wasn't caught. I'm not for one second suggesting that Smith left a foot in or anything else, just that Sagna's leg caught Smith's as he kicked the ball clear. It wasn't a foul & it was a total accident, but if anyone has ever had their leg knocked sideways like Sagna's was, they would know it hurts. Not for long, but it does hurt.
Ashburton Gooner
Beautiful. To see scum fans here and those of Liverpool and Ikea FC (Chelsea) after a draw away from home on a wet and windy night shorn of our 3 best attacking players shows the fear that this young team have created in only 15 league games (still unbeaten).
iceman10
sport, you still haven't answered as to what spurs are if Arsenal aren't a 'big club'?? I make it that spurs must be a very small club under those circumstances. I'll take it you don't actually have an explanation.
Ashburton Gooner
AG yeh just like you and your fellow gooners fail to give an explanation into the why your main striker behaved so badly towards his fellow team mates....... Is picture evidence not enough!!!
sport
Why are you so worried about Adebayor when your god Berbatov behaves like a prize F*@kwit every other game? Why are you so worried when your hovering around the relegation zone like Amy whinehouse at a crack den?
iceman10
Iceman if you had read above you would see I wrote "Adebayor apart from his goal was the worst player on the pitch and his attitude towards his team mates was a bit like our very own mr Berbatov" I hate players with attitude problems and i'll be the first to admit that the way Berbatov has behaved is disgraceful but no one on here will acknowledge the fact that Adebayor was just as bad last night.
sport
Did anyone get the feeling that the ref lost his whistle towards the end? I think he bottled it in front of the fans pressure. There were fouls on Diarra, Rosicky and Ade that were never called. It is also clear that Taylor played the man and not the ball in that last action and should have been sent off. Funny moment: Ade running ahead of Thomas and then expecting a pass when he was 2 yards offside. Rosicky being smart knew that the pass wasn't on even though he must have been tempted. Ade then started arguing with him about it. Ade should have checked his run. Offside is just players not thinking enough.
Gael-Force
I personally think Ade should come down to earth. Down to earth players is the most important quality Wenger looks for. remeber when Henry, Ashley, started feeling like Gods. They were off, and there will always be a replacement. Lets admit even without a trophy to his name, Ade's ego is big. His got alot to learn from guys like Kolo and yes offcourse Fab.
Readgunner
Adebayor was a long way off being as bad as Berbatov. Footballers have disagreements much like everybody else, he still kept working hard for the team. Berbatov wouldnt even get off the bench for 1 game?
iceman10
I can't say I was paying any attention to Adebayor's behaviour, although having read the comments LD seems to have covered it pretty well anyway, so I don't see a problem. If Adebayor was in any way, shape, or form out of order then Wenger will have addressed it privately, like he does with all those situations. If it should happen again then no doubt he will be dropped just like Henry was when he started getting too big for his boots!!...................I'm still waiting to hear what spurs are, but no doubt you still won't answer, because you know you've made a fool of yourself. We have more history, more fans, a better stadium, better training facilities & are considerable better run, so if we aren't a 'big club' in your eyes, then we must be a medium sized club, & basing it on that you are surely admitting spurs are a small club on the same level as the likes of Fulham & Wigan!!
Ashburton Gooner
They are Londons bottom premiership club at this point in time so harsh on Fulham AG!
iceman10
Ade scored a fantastic goal early on and it went to his head. He became over confident. At times you have to make a pass when it is on, instead of wanting to do a Maradona and dribble the defence. In fairness his long range passing has never been great. I also think he spends far too much time in midfield or on the wings trying to link up play. He likes crossing but he is poor at it. Who is he crossing for anyway? 5ft Walcott or Eduardo? One thing is to be the best dribbler in the Togo team but in our team he should stick to his job which is hassling the defenders. His workrate is good but i hope he doesn't become lazy like TH14.
Gael-Force
especially with 4-5-1, you need the 1 guy upfront to stay central or the centre-halves will enjoy the evening. Against ManU Arsene told him to stop wandering around and we scored two goals as Rio and Vidic had more to do
Gael-Force
Why do Ade's mistakes mean that his attitude stinks, or that he let success go to his head ? Because of his ego, he thought the linesman wouldnt flag him for off side? Those were judgment errors (the Rosicky off side one was poor), and I dont see why anyone would read more into those situations. sport - more than one person has come out and said that the Ade situation wasnt a big deal, and is nowhere as near as bad as Berbie. We do not make judgments based on one game !
prits
He is never out of the newspapers or sky sports just like Henry. He shouts and groans at his team mates just like Henry. He drifts out wide just like Henry. He tries to beat players with silly dribbling just like Henry. He does a stupid dance after scoring just like Henry. He failed to win any long balls played forward opting instead to jump early just like Henry............. HE THINKS HE IS A SUPERSTAR JUST LIKE HENRY
sport
ZZZzzzzzzz. You're boring, sport. Dean was definitely a bit weak-willed last night, but you knew he would be when he bottled it on booking alan Smith ealry on. If that ain't a foul I'd like to know what is.
Moorish
Now, its hate Adebayor week eh, sport ;). Earlier it was Theo. Hot air and nothing more.
prits
His always in the Press? That explains it, the higher the press, the lower the performance.It gives one a psychological feeling of being better than you actually are and thus less hard work. Look at Englands squad especially D.B Lets get rid of him this window before the rot sets in.
Readgunner
If Henry is as bad as your making out Sport he could never have been the greatest player to have graced the premiership (As he was).
iceman10
Have to disagree with you there Iceman......
AFC85Lew
I had a season ticket the whole time Henry was at Arsenal and he was a moody sod at times but never as much as the press and sport like to make out. I saw him fighting for his team on many, many occasions and unlike Berbatov he would sulk and then rip a defence to shreds week after week.
iceman10
Gael-force is the only person on here that has provided a balanced view on Adebayor. Oh and iceman I never siad he was as good as Henry Im just making the point that he tries to act like him on the pitch.
sport
I agree that Henry was the best striker ever to grace the premiership
sport
I think he had an argument with Rosicky (wrongly) but I cant recall another incident like it during his Arsenal Career?
iceman10
Watch the game again and pay attention to the way he conducted himself throughout the match. After the goal it was all flicks dribbles and moans.
sport
sport you're full of *****. I assume you follow The Arsenal pretty well since you watch Adebayor and his reactions every week. I don't blame you, after that shower of **** you have for a team. I assume you also note every time Adebayor applauds a player when their passes to him go stray, or the way he encourages his team mates like the other night against Wigan at home. Note that he also joins in the celebrations (see Flamini @ Villa) and enjoys to share his celebrations with both his colleagues and fans (see Sp*rs and Villa away). Now go back to the jolly world of being a spud: debating who's to blame (this time) for the downfall of your pathetic excuse of a club, how Ledders will save you, how Commolli is a ****, how much money will u get for the only skillful player in your squad and other topics such as "Sp*rs ready to overtake Arsenal" (see VA forum for a good laugh). Bye-bye
G4L
And about that picture from the forums, how on earth can you see where Adebayor is looking at that moment? It is probably the same ability you used when you heard Dowd "ask" Rennie whether he should or not send off the wandering Kean-oh.
G4L
Unlike you and your lot sport we dont judge a player on 1 incident or 1 game.
iceman10
Well G4L as you can see on the AM forums many gooners are upset with the way he conducted himself last night its just when a rival siupporter brings it up on here you all go defensive. For you to say he did not see Eduardo says it all really......
sport
I bet you all feel sick when you look at the image... LOL
sport
sport, gael-force is the only person even remotely agreeing with your point, and hence the only one who has a 'balanced view' on Ade ? Yeah right !! So, anyone else who has an opposing point of view is unbalanced. Are you sure it was not your ego and attitude you have been referring to all along ;).
prits
sport, maybe he saw eduardo (that photo was inconclusive btw), but even if he did, what does that prove ? That he made a judgment error by taking the ball himself, rather than passing to a team mate ! And thats about it.
prits
Prits go onto to AM and you'll find 95% of your fellow goons are giving off about his performance and attitude last night.
sport
They are entitled to their opinions, as I am mine. So, people slag off Ade. Lots of gooners slagged off Hleb last season, didnt make it right, did it ? My opinion is based on what I see, not based on what 95% of fans on one Arsenal forum think.
prits
Like the 95% of spud fans that were convinced you would overtake us, they are wrong.
iceman10
IMO
iceman10
sport, do I note a change of tone in your talking bo11ox? Being upset is quite normal, just as Adebayor was with Rosicky last night. Putting in the shallowest of comparisons and labels, and trying to sell them as arguments is just plain dumb.
G4L
Didier Deschamps on Adebayor "For some time, it is difficult to say Emmanuel Adebayor has been perfectly unquestionable in his behaviour and desire."
sport
Adebayor demanding more money from Monaco "I met vice-chairman Gerard Brianti," said Adebayor. "The club agrees to prolong my contract for one more season but we are not agreeing about the financial level. "We can't find an agreement. I met chairman Michel Pastor and he told me I didn't respect the officials."
sport
Monaco's response "Emmanuel is represented by Thierry Laborieux, who is not on the Fifa agents list. "We can't talk with that man so I won't meet him. We are in talks with Emmanuel and we considered his demands. "But just because he has asked for the MOON it doesn't mean that we will give it to him. He is still under contract at Monaco for three years - he must not forget it."
sport
Emmanuel Adebayor has been barred from Monaco's opening game of the season. The Togolese star is in conflict with the club over a new deal and he has stated his desire to quit the club. However, the 21-year-old has three years remaining on his current deal and Monaco are refusing to budge over the player's demands. Monaco have also grown increasingly annoyed at Adebayor's stance and as a result have told him he will not play in their league opener in Nancy and they have sent him back to The Principality. "Indeed, we asked him to go back to Monaco," confirmed Monaco vice-chairman Gerard Brianti. "It is a decision from the chairman Michel Pastor and the coach. There are things difficult to accept. "I don't like the word sanction, but I prefer to talk about refocusing. "He is not a 21-year-old kid and is not a world champion that could allow himself to do anything. "He still has three years remaining on his contract, and we made him a proposition we consider very correct. "The officials have always been open to talk, but Emmanuel has lost sense of reality. "A decision will be made coordinated with the coach. He could remain on the bench for three years."
sport
And your point is............
iceman10
Monaco striker Emmanuel Adebayor could be in trouble with the club after failing to return to Stade Louis II following the winter break. The unsettled forward did not show up on Monday as intended after being given some time off while Ligue 1 shut down over Christmas. Adebayor was due to join up with his team-mates on Monday to prepare for Thursday's clash with Auxerre before flying off for the African Cup of Nations. However, Adebayor did not return to training and he is set for showdown talks with the Principality outfit. Adebayor could now be handed a heavy fine by Monaco and club executive Jean-Luc Ettori confirmed they will take action against the giant striker. "He should have returned on Monday and then left again after the match on Thursday," said Ettori. "But I have had no news and he is not answering his mobile telephone. "In my opinion he will not return, despite us trying to fit our plans around him - he will be severely punished." The news has intensified speculation that Adebayor could be on his way out of Monaco during this month's transfer window. A number of clubs are believed to be waiting in the wings to sign Adebayor if Monaco decide to cash-in on him.
sport
Yaawn sport, everyone here knew about Ade's past before he came here. How is any of that relevant now?
prits
Did Berbie have a history of poor attitude? That didnt change the fact that its poor for Spurs now. Hang a man, based on his past eh ;). Well done, sport. You argue a very convincing case !!
prits
Arsenal's new signing Emmanuel Adebayor was not willing to play for Togo in their opening game of the African Cup of Nations. Adebayor's name appeared on the teamsheet ahead of Togo's 2-0 defeat to DR Congo, but he then did not start the match. It was believed the striker was suffering from a stomach upset, although he was brought on as a second half substitute. But Togo coach Stephen Keshi has revealed that Adebayor had refused to take his place in the team to tackle DR Congo. Keshi was originally going to leave the former Monaco ace out of the side, only to have a change of heart. He was then forced into another reshuffle of his plans due to Adebayor's stance and it is unclear how it could affect the rest of Togo's African Cup of Nations campaign. "This morning I said to Adebayor that he wouldn't play because he hadn't played in a long time and because he had spent the last week sorting out his contract with Arsenal," said Keshi. "Just before the game, I told him I was putting him in the team and then he said he didn't want to play."
sport
He had problems at Monaco, he had problems with Togo. He's had no problems at Arsenal. Vieira and Lauren once had a fight on the coach didnt stop them winning titles together did it? Your clutching at straws like a kid in mcdonalds, why you are here debating this only god knows.
iceman10
Arsenal is a family club, where I hope to end my career. The team is young and we want to win a lot of trophies together.
G4L
he just wants him to stop scoring goals against the totties.
G4L
There is a trend with Adebayor, he plays well at the start gets himself established then talks about other clubs and demands more money. He has done it throughout his career and is on the same path with arsecum. A leopard doesnt change its spots.
sport
Emmanuel Adebayor wants to discuss a new contract at Arsenal after claiming he is aware of interest from Manchester United. The Togo striker joined The Gunners from Monaco just over 12 months ago, but is keen to be rewarded with improved terms. He has been linked with Premiership rivals United, while Spanish side Valencia are also reported to be on his trail. But while the 23-year-old is flattered by the interest from other clubs, he concedes he would be willing to sign a new deal at Emirates Stadium. "My agent has told me both Manchester United and Valencia are following me" Adebayor is quoted in the News of the World. "But I am not getting carried away with that, even if they're two massive clubs." "I am doing well at Arsenal, but they have to show me they want to construct something with regard to my new status in the team." "I would love to extend my contract. I am in the heart of the supporters"
sport
Im baffled by this guy? Seriously does he have a point? Does he have a purpose in life?
iceman10
If dropping 3 points away to Bolton doesn't mean ManU are crumbling then us dropping 2 away to Newcastle shouldn't have deluded Spuds wetting themselves in excitement either. They just need to remember that we have more than 3 times their points total.
Amos.
His purpose in life is to convince us that either our players are not quality (read Theo), or that they have attitude problems (Ade). Who's on the menu next, sport ? Gallas' attitude because it stunk at Chelsea?
prits
Yeh prits you can claim Theo is quality by pointing to what exactly? One game against Prague in which they completely folded. How well has he performed in the premiership saying as he has been with arsecum for two seasons now. If he were some foreign kid that had come through your academy instead of a 12m English kid you'd all be wondering why wenger was giving him so much playing time.
sport
sport - shouldn't you be more concerned about the 8m blown on Kaboul who seems to have been transformed into Titus Bramble?
Amos.
Amos I agree Kaboul has been a disaster - you'll find most spurs fans will agree. But Theo has been just as poor yet you mugs chant his name at every home game.
sport
Or the 8Mill on Zokora, or the 4Million on Paul Ginsters or the 4Million on Ausso-Ekotto, or the (get ready) 16 Million on Bent. But don't be silly Amos, he's Spurs, so he's naturally more interested in what goes on at Arsenal than the goings on at his own club!
simmy8_2000
Theo has been just as poor? He's not got the goals that everyone thought he would, but he's producing the performances. He can pass the ball and is already a better crosser than Lennon. Speaking of Lennon, what does HE do other than run untill he hits something?
simmy8_2000
BITC(H), did you hear the news about Drogba? Without your best goal scorer, look like your team will crumble, cause all your other strikers are pathetic (Sheva especially).
BMF
Nice write-up, thanks LD. Wow I must say I'm baffled - I wouldn't spend all that time typing and trying to indict another team's player in a trial like that. Sport, for your own good, enjoy what (however limited) your team's doing, not ours. Just be happy. And for the record, Ade's got a bit of pride, but that's not an ego problem at the moment. Not that Arsene would let him go overboard. He's worked with real superstars before and it's just Ade, come on!
Louisa
Wow, we can't even chant our players names now. Our stadium, our players, our lungs. We'll sing about whatever we ******** like.
saisho
sport you are taking things out of old articles, old news spuddie, i would worry about your 16m striker who i wouldn't give 5 for right now, and lets talk how shocking your defence was last night, comical and entertaining for us gooners, but don't come here try and get a rise out of us for a well earned point when you nearly lost a game last night and were lucky in the penalty.
PUREGOLD
Theo has been just as poor as Kaboul? Dream on. You won't hear any Gunners fan proclaiming that Theo is the finished article, but he has bags of potential and is developing nicely. Kaboul has been unmitigated shee-it ever since the Spuds signed him.
Moorish
I have absolutely no idea what sport has been on about to be honest. I dont really think adebayor has a bad attitude and if he had a go at someone for not passing and that constitutes a bad attitude then there is a hell of a lot of players in the league that are the same. As for walcott, i think he has potential for you and wenger is trying to turn him into an henry (my own opinion) in that he is playing him on the wing to learn how to take on players and beat them and will then move him into attack. Your comments about Lennon of course are an opinion but i do disagree. Lennon may not do lots of brilliant crosses but he can certainly take on players and shoot. He is still young and will develop just like walcott and others but it will take time. The same goes for Kaboul. He is young and unfortunately has been thrown into the deep end. I along with many others have seen flashes of greatness from him but they are only flashes so far. He will come good once we have taken him out of the firing line. And as for Bent. You cant really argue against his record in the PL. He cost more than he should but that is the story of life when buying an englishman. I am sure you dont want to talk about spurs players and i am baffled why sport has put up so many posts trying to argue about the attitude of a player.
spursfan4eva
That is off topic. And no need to shout, just look in ''other recent articles''
AFC85Lew
Wrong message board.
AFC85Lew
sf4e another sensible man!
G4L
Is there anyone with news about Tressor Mputu, the highly rated African striker that was on trial at Arsenal?
Readgunner
Gone back to his native country and has become a teacher after failing to make it in football.
will it ever happen
WIEH Intelligent input mate, why dont you just have another beer.
Readgunner
LD, BMF..now it's a draw followed by a loss, very impressive stuff...
Blue is the colour
 

Have Your Say

Log in...
with your social network     OR     with your Vital account

Recent Arsenal Articles

Wenger & Ozil Share a Mutual Trust (Wednesday November 19 2014)

Memories: Jens Lehmann (Wednesday November 19 2014)

On Adding The Science To Sanchez Magic (Sunday November 16 2014)

Yet Another International Thread (Wednesday November 12 2014)

Arsenal's Perfect Swan Dive (Sunday November 9 2014)

Archived Arsenal Articles

List All Vital Arsenal Articles
Have your say
Click here to suggest an article
Click here to suggest a poll

Vital Members League (view all)

1. Amos. 68
2. paul_ownz 47
3. Naijagunner 37
4. Wyn Mills 31
5. Galway Gooner 29
6. shewore 14
7. Joe_@** 14
8. damiano_tommassi 13
9. Little Dutch 10
10. Guyfox 7

League Results (view all)

Latest Results
Swansea 2 - 1 Arsenal
Arsenal 3 - 0 Burnley
Sunderland 0 - 2 Arsenal
Arsenal 2 - 2 Hull City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Arsenal
Arsenal 1 - 1 Spurs

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
3. Man City 11 6 3 2 10 21
4. West Ham 11 5 3 3 5 18
5. Swansea 11 5 3 3 4 18
6. Arsenal 11 4 5 2 6 17
7. Man Utd 11 4 4 3 3 16
8. Newcastle 11 4 4 3 -2 16
9. Stoke 11 4 3 4 -1 15

Breaking League News

And Back to the Subject of Vidal!
Man Utd : 22/11/2014 09:24:00
Chelsea Linked to Croatian Striker!
Chelsea : 22/11/2014 09:20:00
And Still the Cech Rumours Flow!
Chelsea : 22/11/2014 09:12:00
Van Persie Set to Leave in the Summer
Man Utd : 22/11/2014 09:06:00
Tell Us About Yourself - Tunez
Chelsea : 22/11/2014 08:35:00

Current Site Poll (view all polls)

With a stuttering start to the season what league position can we still reasonably aim for?
Suggested By:  
First 1%
Second 16%
Third 25%
Fourth 25%
Fifth or lower 25%
Still too early to bother with predictions 8%