Wenger on Chelsea loss (AUDIO)

Time to dig up those old quotes and borrow some strength lol: "In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance." "If you are going through hell, keep going." "I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else."

6 minutes to hear the moaning frog, we lost because there was grass on the pitch and Drogba scored two goals, everyone knows this cannot happen against L Arse.

Seemed a pretty balanced summary to me. We lost because we lacked concentration, defensive strength and the composure to play our normal game in the final 20 -25minutes. He didn't criticise Chelsea - he acknowledged that we weren't able to deal with their tactics in the 2nd half. Chelsea won the game so their tactics must have been right. Even if the offside goal did help their cause.

Out witted by the Toad man..LMAO!!!You should of played Van Persie..Oh wait he did play. Seriously he was kack and should of been subbed long before he was.

Amos; A positive slant on what epitomises a lack of steel and desire to win. Yours are idealistic and perhaps viable excuses but not for 10 years or so? The next level has been a long time coming given such early successes. How much longer can you wait until Wenger gives steel and thorn to the roses? Will he ever pull it off?

It's not steel or desire we lack - it's experience, composure at times, and the physical development of some of our younger players. The funding for the new stadium has meant that we have had to reduce the wage bill by letting some players whose best days are behind them go earlier than we might have wished and relied too early on younger players but, hopefully, whose best times are still to come. It' was always a risky strategy that Wenger has managed with a reasonable degree of success. He has kept us in the financially important CL competition every year and by and large we have always managed to compete for a trophy of some sort. I am not quite sure what you mean by 10 years or so. It's only 2 years since we last won a trophy and 3 years since the unbeaten season. Is it really all over now? The improvement this season and the rapidly improving income from the stadium investment suggests it isn't.

I love our brand of football but i have to admit that we lack bodies, players maybe not as talented as the first string but players who accept their 'second string' status and can respond when called upon. Our level of play drops too much once we take a few players out. The one player i miss most is Bergkamp. With him in the side, we were guaranteed at least 2 or 3 clever chances per game. RvP was earmarked for that role but he needs to get sharp and stay fit.

Football is a results business and whilst keeping in the CL is a form of success is it Arsenal's limit of desire and ambition? The next level is not qualification and competing but winning and this appears a long way off ~ what of the £60M war chest rumours? ~~~~ The teams spine of steel is severely in need of a transplant, this was as obvious last year as it is now. To sit and wait for some men of steel to rise from the ranks is foolish and isn't this the foolhardy repetitive mistake Wenger refuses to do anything about?

Your patience is admirable. In my book though it looks more like a lack of desire to win. The do nothing option. Feasible excuses for more of the same nearly tales. The better players will develop and gain the said experience and no doubt leave before the team is complete; then the cycle starts all over again. There is no time like the present.

The next level is David dein back at the club! But of course without that fat Russian!

Come on Pantisocrates, no one can doubt the lads' desire to win. They wanted it. Why else would we be where we are for such along time? Remember, we weren't even supposed to finish 4th season. Cheer up, our time is yet to come.

The man WAS genius but at the mo and for the last 2 years Arsene DOES NOT KNOW!! The spuds have won a bloody trophy. A trophy that he turns his nose up at when we havent won sweet FA now for 4 years! I spend a bloody fortune on two home and away season tickets for my son and myself...Thousands upon thousands a year! Spend some of my ******** money...Its mine not yours! Man utd win the title at a canter last year, so what does fergie do??? Goes out and spends £50 million! What do we get? A 15 year old kid from gillingham! Adebayor is and has always been a donkey! An ego that showed how big when he made my club look like a joke at white hart lane in a night that made me feel sick to my stomach! Almunia??? wtf!! Eboue! Embarrassing! What does he bring to the team? Diaby?? Denilson? Bendtner? Traore? Holte? Song? Sanderos? Gilberto? All of them either no good, not ready of finished! H e has got rid of Edu, Pires! Vieira and Henry! All still playing and doing well for there clubs. Keeping just 2 of those might have made a differance this season. His putting everything think on cescs shoulders and the kid is so burnt out that the only thing that he has done since reading away thank God was to kill off Milan!! This pretty football just does not work against any team that has even 10% Of an idea how to put men back and defend in two banks of 5! So does wenger try and change things...Nah! Do we try and play down the flanks? Nah! And why? Coz we have no out and out wingers! Gael-Force Man utd and Chelsea are doing it the right way...YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY! Its my money! Its your money! I want it spent and I want it spent this summer!!!

Have you heard of the latest 14 year old we've signed from Brazil? He'll come good in about... 10 years time. What about Fran Merida, the other wunderkid from Spain? Carlos Vela anyone? We have the best under-16 squad in the world.... Just a bit of light humour chaps.... take it easy...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :)

Well as a spud you would think Adebayor is a good player! Lets face it you paid over 18 million for Darren Bent! And bitc, I wouldnt laugh if My club had spent 350 million and hadnt won the league for 2 seasons and had an owner that picked the team! But then look at your club....No class! No History and not much future so it seems!

vavavoom14 ~ spot on. The board should have a few words and set arsene a target or two; win a trophy; buy some men of steel for the teams flacid spine.

If the board start telling the manager how to run the team, we will be truly *****ed. I'm not sure AW needs targets really, did you thik it hadn't occurred to him to try and win football games. What you are advocating is a Liverpool style model, it doesn't seem to be doing them too many favours.

5-1, banter's fine, it's your hobby. But if you want to say something, at the very least get the fact right and try to look smarter. The Arsenal board have not even paid dividends on their shares for many decades. It's very well documented in the press that no owners have taken money out of the club or personally pile debt or any liability onto the club apart from their directors' salaries. We were cash-strapped because we had this long-term vision and decided to build a larger stadium, which you guys are trying to do too. If Spurs can figure out a viable way to do so and continue to be the 3rd biggest spenders in the league without putting the club at risk through high debt, by all means, and I'd congratulate you. Look, I'm not even laughing at your being 3rd in spending and 11th in the league. I really am not because I take no pleasure from it. I'm talking about fact here with you (of all people). You can keep coming to this site but please put in a little bit more mental effort in your posts.

Well said Lou. I think he should be ashamed of mouthing off that they are the 3rd biggest spenders and yet they stayed nearer the bottom three for the whole season.

Pff hahahah sorry AggressiveSpurs, we don't need any lasagne because (a) we're already IN Champions League, (b) you guys are too far off the 4th spot! lol Or was there some other lasagne stories about fighting for the league title that you're mixing it up with?

No point in trying to reason with spurs fans that come here, or come up with a logical argument. Obviously the ones that come here are just to rub salt in wounds and wind us up. You could come up with the most logical piece of journalism and they would counter act it with "how many trophies you won in the last 3 seasons". Case closed

Very true Paul. Yoy missed off the bit about what classless ******** s they are though.

lou ive told you gooners before, you shouldnt make fun of a trophy that 1) you cant seem to win 2) before you say you dont want to win it, can i refer you to the incidents concerning your players in the coke cup final with chelsea, and tottenham, when you players turned ugly in both of them, to me that does not seem like a team that is not trying ps 3 seasons without f all, and lou before the emirates you were a selling club not a buying club, anelka, petit, silvhinio, overmars, to name but a few that you sold for big money whilst they were still good players, man utd, chelsea and spurs are buying clubs, arsenal, west ham, wigan, and reading are selling clubs end of!

Trying "logic" eh? I know these guys will say I'm wasting time again. But ok, here we go, I have no lecture today and can play with you. Look, the 2nd-string players (pure kids plus Almunia at 30, Kolo at 25 and Baptista at 25, so let's not say otherwise) did want to win it last year. The 2nd-string players wanted it, you heard me? I can also bet you for Wenger it's just a "nice-to-have", definitely far from a "must-have" trophy. Same for us fans. We only wanted them to do well and grow as players in that competition after seeing the likes of RvP, Cesc and Kolo come through it to become the players they are now. Don't you try to confuse things by simplistically saying that we "wanted" that cup. Also bcos (1) they did extremely well along the way, beating Everton and Liverpool away and you guys over 2 legs, before outplaying Chelsea for the best part of the final only to get caught out by Drogba; (2) we were not in a title race last year. This year I can tell you they didn't want it cos (1) we're in a title race, which is a huge improvement on last year when we're like 20-odd points off ManU; (2) the kids did well against Newcastle and Blackburn, but with the senior players thrown in, we were completely cr@p against you guys with no motivation and even interest in those games. That nobody can deny. They just were UNINTERESTED. Which we admit we hated to see too. Tell me how someone like Gallas who's won 2 back-to-back league titles was still hunting for another medal this year could have been genuinely giving his 100% in the CC while he's got bigger dreams about PL and CL on his mind at that time. I personally felt it's a mistake to even field the senior guys. Either you keep blooding the kids or you go for it completely with your strong XI; but it was a hybrid between the two, doing half a job here, half a job there. So I hold up my hand and say they were cr@p cos they weren't interested. Same thing happened in FAC vs ManU. Don't keep trying to pretend to know what we as Arsenal fans "want to win" cos you're just not one. It's what YOU want doesn't mean it's what we want. And having clarified this, I guess I don't have to answer your 1st question - it's not that we can't win the CC, we just don't want to pay the cost of winning CC. Look, we've already got this injury list. Think, just use your brain for once, would you risk your full squad for a cup whose prize I don't even know, or go as far as we can in PL and CL (btw, just one further round means a home match is 3.1m+ in the pocket); I don't have to mention the obvious fact that the honour and glory that a CC brings is not in the same league as PL and CL, do I? Seriously, I did congratulate you guys and still stand by that - you should be happy about your team's achievement. Just the same way we're proud of the huge jump the team has made this season even if there's no trophy to show. What's wrong with that? And how's that your business anyway? And if you read my post correctly, I was saying it's no use to say things like "one Coke Cup in 9 years" or "4th spot, dream on" because that'd just make the discussion dumber and dumber. Did you even recognise that I said I was NOT into that, in case you don't that I'm still trying to be rational with you here? Oh, and if you don't like us making fun or anything at all, by all means stay away from this site. Now onto your "point" about "selling club", which is honestly laughable. I don't blame you at all for not knowing about Arsenal's transfer dealings because you're not a fan. But again, get it right before you say it then you'd look smarter. Silvinho had already been displaced by Cashley in his 2nd season with us. Petit as 30 when he left, only to go to Barcelona and stay half a sesaon in the medical room. Same time Overmars left, with an even better replacement called Robert Pires - have you heard of him, who scored lots of great goals against Spurs? Anelka, hahaha couldn't believe you mentioned him, the guy wanted to leave (his words, he said he's not even forced by his brothers, but no matter what, Wenger couldn't keep him so he had to get the best possible deal out of a good player like him at such a young age, again, what's wrong?). You of all people should know - look no further than Berbatov. Again, if you gave it a better logical try, I'd be very happy to give you some respect. But attention's already been given too much. Ciao.

I know Ivanskg. That's why I don't do the going around myself. But 5-1 was saying to me so I had to respond by telling him what he didn't see or chose not to see. And you just did go around, by using "ar5ena1", watch out when it happens to come around to you later. I can claim I don't go around taking pleasuring in winding people up, you/many can't.

Lou, consider 5-1 as mainly entertainment value. He claims that "we (Spurs) have bought maily crap players with an exception here and there" . LOL, I would think thats a huge problem, but no, for him, its a matter of pride that spurs are a buying club (they buy *****e), while we (arsenal) are a selling club. Your efforts are wasted :).

Yep there's always next season lol. Good luck (keeping Ramos and Berbatov especially).