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Exactly What We Deserved

Meeting in the Tavern pre match, it was already evident my nose was out of joint. Whilst most in my company chuckled at Cesc Fabregas` pre match comments, yours truly was apoplectic with rage. Not only was it utterly ill advised in giving our opponents an extra spring in their step, but it was just plain disrespectful from a professional point of view. I`m trying to get a handle on what the reaction would have been amongst Gooners (mentioning no arsenal blogs in particular) had Gallas made such crass comments. The fact that I then went on to predict a draw (albeit 1-1) and maintain that my only lingering doubts over Almunia surrounded his big game temperament, meant I shouldn`t have spent the pre match build up meeting up with my sister (who is inexplicably getting married on Cup Final day in 2009) and necking Guinness as I should have at the bookies with a golf visa and a cheap Marlboro red in my mouth.

With Jon idiotically deciding to go on holiday to Morocco during the season (what is with these people?) my sister took his seat for her first North London derby, I told her to expect an entirely different atmosphere to the one she had been accustomed to at home games. She was not disappointed and I, for once, did not look to be guilty of hyperbole. Tottenham set their stool out early (get it? Stool? Lasagnegate?.....Man I`m wasted on you people) to deny us room and it worked for the early stages. Then came a bolt from the blue, buoyed by boos emanating from the home fans (why did we bother?), David Bentley caught the ball on his left boot, Almunia, ironically a native of Pamplona, showed the red rag to the bull by leaving his net winking at Bentley and the ex Arsenal academy product duly punished him with a superb dipping volley from forty yards. Credit where it`s due, I despise the little twerp, but Bentley might easily have given it to the home fans both barrels in his celebration, we would have deserved it too, but he went to his won fans instead, which showed a bit of class I felt. #Bentley from the half way line# came the chant from the Spurs faithful. Ouch. Arsenal were stung into life, firstly Walcott spun onto van Persie`s through ball and hit a low shot just wide. Then van Persie expertly crafted himself some room on the edge of the area and hit a curling left foot shot which flew just wide. Fabregas had a coin aimed at him from one of a series of corners from the visiting supporters. Fabregas then had a shot blocked as Arsenal turned the heat up, Spurs simply could not hold out much longer and Arsenal decided to turn their arch enemy, the set piece, into an ideal bedfellow. Van Persie`s inswinger saw Gomes come clawing out at thin air, and the egg shaped head of Mikael Silvestre was on hand to glance the ball into the corner. For the remainder of the half, Spurs expertly took the wind out of their opponents` sails with some calm possession football to see out the half. Arsenal might have tried something similar around an hour later.

The Gunners began the half with the bit between their teeth and after van Persie, shall we say, slightly exaggerated contact from Huddlestone, Arsenal were awarded a free kick on the right. Van Persie swung in another devilish delivery which William Gallas headed into the net. If only you defended a few early season corners with the same veracity William. That said, since his quite honest self appraisal of his form this season a few weeks back, he looks a different animal. Arsenal created a golden opportunity to seemingly bury the result, Fabregas looked to have lost the ball on the edge of the Spurs area, only for a toe ended challenge to nick it into the area of van Persie, and he cleverly laid the ball off for Adebayor, who inexplicably slammed the ball wide. With left back Assou Ekotto on a yellow card and Lennon on for Bale, the chance was there for Walcott to have a big effect. I can`t help but feel it would have been ideal for us to bring him off the bench at that point. However, the game looked to have been won with around twenty minutes remaining. Van Persie spun in the centre circle and delivered a sumptuous through ball into the path of Nasri, he lifted the ball beyond Gomes, but it had insufficient weight to cross the line with Hutton bearing down on the ball and preparing to smother it in the manner Bruce Willis might smother a bomb in a Die Hard movie, but Adebayor raced onto it to make sure it went into the night. That was that. Game over. Or so we thought.

As is usually their wont when two goals to the good, the Gunners completely switched off. Denilson had battled manfully all game to try and enervate Modric`s influence, with little or no help from his other three midfielders. But he dropped off massively for the last fifteen minutes and much to the team`s detriment. Arsenal needlessly over committed to attack, Spurs won the ball back and Modric did not have to work too hard to find Huddlestone one the edge of the area. His shot was fumbled by Almunia and Darren Bent followed in the rebound for 3-2. Almunia was at fault for spilling a comfortable shot, but what was especially galling was how slow he was to get up. I have Osseo arthritis in my knees and I had four pints of Guinness and a subway in me at the time. I would have got to my feet quicker than Almunia managed. Arsenal took the warning and when Hutton`s attempted pass back to Woodgate was woefully under hit, Adebayor ran onto the loose ball before releasing van Persie on the right side of the area. Unbelievably he discovered he actually had a right foot and used it to devastating effect, smashing the ball into the net. 4-2, Eboue on for Walcott. Game well and truly over. The oles began, as did the chants of "1-0 and you fucked it up." Arsenal fans were well and truly enjoying themselves, "you`ll never play here again" we chanted to a rapidly emptying away enclosure. "Bentley, what`s the score?" How we laughed. A telling comment from the woman who sits next to me, "If we win this, it`ll be so sweet." There were eight minutes left, we were two goals to the good at home to the bottom club, yet still the qualifier IF was used. Even at that stage, we weren`t relaxed due to our shoddy defence.

You can expect that sort of thing in the stands, it`s what we pay our money to do and whilst we look a bit silly this morning, it`s forgivable. No set of fans in the country would have behaved any differently in the circumstances. What was not acceptable, was for the gloating to spread to the players. Gael Clichy, who made an error in the home game against Sunderland last season when we were 2-0 up to let them in the game, who made a massive error when we were 2-0 up against Manchester City and made an absolutely cataclysmic error in injury time against Birmingham last season due to arrogance, proved that, whilst he has an exceptional football talent, he has a brain like a fricking hamster. I hope Gallas tore a great big strip off of him in the dressing room and I hope Wenger is redistributing his wage packet to charity this week, because mistakes this unprofessional are unacceptable. To repeat the error ad infinitum is disgraceful. With two simple passes available, he pompously dithered with the ball. Spurs were still pressing the ball in the last ten minutes, but Clichy did not read the situation and ended up slipping like a twat under pressure from Jenas. Jenas ambled forward, Song half heartedly chased him down, Silvestre made a pathetic attempt to block, but Jenas curled a shot past Almunia. With ninety seconds of normal time remaining, the nerves were jangled to shredding point.

Arsenal promptly went to the other end and won a corner, Sagna wanted to sensibly play a short one and keep possession. Fabregas waved him away and pumped it into the box. Diaby committed a pointless foul on our left touchline (who knows where Clichy was at this point, presumably lighting a cigar), leaving Spurs with a set piece in a dangerous area. Arsenal cleared it along with the resulting corner. Fabregas had possession in the 93rd minute, instead of recycling it simply, he tried an impossible through ball to Adebayor. This was a young man who was living up to his pre match promise not to take his opponents seriously. What a twat he looks this morning. Because Gomes got the ball and pumped it long, Arsenal decided not to bother defending the edge of their box, leaving Modric free to line up a dipping volley which cracked the post. The ball came out and the fresher, faster Lennon beat Gallas to the rebound for an unbelievable equaliser. The few Spurs fans that stuck around to see it, predictably serenaded us with "4-2 and you fucked it up." How droll, how true.

The final whistle went and a chorus of boos rang out from the home fans. I`ve never been of this disposition before in my life, but I nearly joined them. They deserved it. A bunch of players that have collectively achieved as little as ours have have no right to display that kind of arrogance, especially when that was our hubris against the might of Hull City some three weeks earlier. You cannot write this off as a freak either, because the Fenerbahce game might easily have finished in a similar fashion. I`ve bored you all ad nauseam with my thoughts of defensive midfielders and centre halves, but that`s down to the manager. What was appalling about last night was the rank attitude. It has plagued us so many times before and our two most consistent performers, Clichy and Fabregas, were the most guilty. Worth mentioning that only Gallas did not walk off in a strop down the tunnel, he stayed behind to applaud the supporters. Certain other Arsenal blogs won`t mention that. I felt sorry for him last night, he was one of the few players who did not switch off into a self indulgent reverie. He was a born winner surrounded by arrogant children, who have achieved nothing in the game of football, who refuse to learn from their mistakes and cavort with an arrogance I simply cannot relate to. Where does it come from? And what will the manager do to make sure they learn their lessons, I don`t care if he has to stick Gael Clichy in a darkened room Clockwork Orange style, with hooks under his eyelids and make him watch his mistake over and over again. (Reminiscent of Cole against Kazakhstan was it not?) Perhaps he can make Fabregas train with the Ladies team for a week, or better still dress him up in a gingham frock. This result feels a lot, lot worse than the 5-1 defeat, if only because of the attitude that informed it. Quite simply, this team do not have the correct mentality to win the big prizes. Given their refusal to learn from mistakes and repeat their glaring errors, I hold out little hope that they ever will have the correct mentality. Mealy mouthed platitudes expressing regret followed by a win against Stoke won`t cut it. They promised us Fulham was a one off. They promised us Hull was a one off. They have to demonstrate consistently that they will have respect for their opponents and apply themselves for 90 minutes in every game. I think they can do it, I just don`t think they will.LD.




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Date:Thursday October 30 2008

Time: 12:10PM

Your Comments

Not that it matters much but Walcott was clapping the fans too .... he was just buttoned up under a massive blue coat. Anyone else nervous about Rory Delap's long throws and out showboater of a goalkeeper, who would rather look good than do things simply?
Rocky7
It's certainly what we got - whether we deserved it I am not so sure but we only have ourselves to blame. There were some good things in the game in a decent performance in many ways undone by individual errors. Some are quick to blame Gallas' for a lack of leadership but in this game he showed that both by example and attitude. Those that feel Cesc should be captain can look at this game and perhaps appreciate just how premature that would have been. Those that claim past teams would have handled it better are perhaps overlooking the rarely interrupted sequences of 'wobbly' October/Novembers of the past.
Amos.
Great Piece LD - always enjoy reading your pieces. I have some sympathy for you guys as it happened to us last season at the Lane and we needed the points. Had we won there I think we'd have won the league. Unbelievable to defend as badly as we did and for them to play so above themselves as to score four past us. I hate them as much as you do. Still, onwards and upwards eh? You just know having battled for their lives last night they will go to Liverpool and tamely capitulate now. Cant even bank on them doing us a favour!
OLASAL
Almunia made 2 errors all game, thats it. Awful result against an even worse Spu*s team, we should of walked that game with our eye's closed, but ended up getting bitten because of over confidence. Looking at both teams we had every right to be over confident, it's just a shame the players didn't have the ability, drive or desire to win this game. That is the first time I have walked away from the grove after a draw and felt like we had lost. Wenger may of ben angry, but he is the one that tok off our attacking threats and invited pressure. He is the one that allowed our players to be cocky and arrogant in the build up and for that he should take the blame. The players ignored most of the home fans at the end, for that they should be publicly flogged, totally unacceptable! Spu*s did a lap of honour after a league game they drew, can you believe that? lol it shows the difference between both clubs and why we are streets ahead both on and off the pitch! If anyone would ever like to comment that the Grove is a quiet stadium or that arsenal fans don't make noise, watch and listen to last nights game replay....that was one of the noisiest stadiums I have been in. Last point, a draw at home is never the end of the world, but in these circumstances it certainly felt like that walking home....
LondonGooner
This is the best summary of the game I have read, the only thing is that Clichy was excellent for the whole game apart from the mistake... That makes it even more painful...
freekick
Good write up LD. The boos were all well-deserved, coz I have never felt so let down by the team before. Arrogance, naivety, stupidity - all in equal measure. This team has little hope in the League, all we can hope for is a good Cup run. Its pointless blaming some individuals like Cesc & Clichy, but the others - Song, Denilson, Adebayor, none of them kept possession in the dying minutes. I've seen some criticism of the subs, but thats so mis-directed.
prits
They simply let us down. After turning the Grove into a cauldron last night, they let us down and didn't even bother to come and clap us. I wouldn't of pi**ed on half of them if they were on fire. What a bunch of arrogant ****s. Contrary to popular belief spu*s didn't win the league last night, although you may of been mistaken into believing that after those celebrations! Great game, great spectacle great entertainment.............
LondonGooner
LG-" Spu*s did a lap of honour after a league game they drew, can you believe that?"so you wouldn't of celebrated had it been the other way around in the same circumstances,in that dramatic fashion ?Shows you're streets ahead??more arrogant drivel,your players and team are just all in the image of your blind ,arrogant manager,best play your ladies at the lane eh coz your best team couldn't beat us,leddley should be there for that one,so won't be able to rely on our mistakes and set pieces for your goals.
parklanebert
I have never seen my team doa lap of honour after a league game. hey PLB I am only telling what i saw, if you can't take an obvious criticism like that without gtting sensitove, what can i say? I was at the game mate, murdered you after about 30 minutes of even football and deservedly went 4-2 up, should of been 2 more and we threw it away. Now what part of what i just said isn't true? As for ledley, he should of been put down years ago as I am so fed up of hearing how 2good2 he is, the c*** never plays how is thata good player? lol I view Rosicky the same, he's not a god player, he's an injured player, nothig more nothing less!
LondonGooner
The lap of honour shows that for yourselves it was a magnificent result, for us, we are gutted as we should of beaten a team, rightly so, at the bottom of the league and one we are better than. That is not arrogance, or bi headedness, that is a cold hard fact.
LondonGooner
LondonG your players did a huddle at the end of the same game last season so whats the difference? Spurs players ran to thier fans they didn't do a lap of honour mate... On the point of your goalie I dont think he is top 4 material personally but as long as he is flapping at 2 of 5 shots at him long may he continue in the arsenal onion sack...
woddywoo
Did i mention the ladies team? No, i don't think so. So how does that not make you big headed. Cesc shouldn't of opened his mouth and now he looks like a proper **** for saying it and has given us Arsenal fans opponents something to beat us with. As for winning, It does seem you seem to have forgotten that you have had about 3 results against us in 10 years..........so le's not get all cocky because you drew 1 league game eh!
LondonGooner
Almunia will never be top class, that's true, but he is usually very dependable and this season has arguably been one of our best players (not saying much woddy, i know)
LondonGooner
whos sensitive?you was happily on the spurs site before the game trying to be smart and now you're all upset ! I was there too and you got a goal from our keeper ,one from the ref and one from our full back ,also celebrating with our fans is hardly a lap of honour,like I said you would of done exactly the same in the same circumstances ,with the way it all happened and it doesn't mean you're streets ahead does it ?you are miles ahead in league position yes but in class,dignity etc you are streets behind,did all our goals come from open play,the entertainers eh! ps thanks for the uplifting draw that felt like a win to us and a loss to you I'm sure it will help with our confidence ,we won't have much harder games than that this year to contend with. getting all upset coz we celebrated coming back from 4-2 down in the last minute honestly.........4-2 and you F***ed it up hahahahaha 3results in 10 years ,and whats that the last 3?lol and peeps say we live off past glorys
parklanebert
anyway good article,fair if obviously from a goon perspective, an interesting read, hats off
parklanebert
LG -anyway just thought I'd drop by say hi as you was all chat before the game ,I'll leave you to it now though as you seem a little off form,couldn't think why COYS
parklanebert
PLB, be smart? Hmmmmmmm please point out where I was being "smart", "cocky" whatever you want to call it before this game or any other? Never have been like that, never will be. if you read my posts properly you will find I contribute fairly and intelligently on the spurs site, without getting in childish digs and petty squabbles,...........behave yourself mate! I had a great evening last night, gutted we didn't win but thoroughly enjoyed one of the most entertaining games I have ever seen live!
LondonGooner
just re read your post, the only arrogance and cockynes i have seen today is from you pLB. We have been very magnanamous in defeat and said as much in my posts! All i have read from spu*s today is how s**t Arsenal are and how great spu*s are..........what gives? As for class and dignity, wel you only have to look at Daniel levy, David Bentley and co and realise that you are no better or worse than we are.
LondonGooner
LG-thats better,yeah me 2 in fairness it was amazing and it was a good atmosphere too which surprised me tbh,better than the library,you must admit that you can't blame us for celebrating that?had been getting dogs abuse all night,your mob would of done exactly the same m8
parklanebert
and the fact is ye couldnt beat a team at bottom of table , 1 crap 2 crap away from home 3 never scored more then 2 goals only against bolton 4 lost lead twice 3-1 4-2. 5 ye though ye had game one. 6 we have a new lease of life, coys
123spurs
check out the bacon ,sausage article,i haven't said anything to any goon that has magnanimous its just that you had a dig just coz we celebrated!I mean really what would you expect?
parklanebert
sorryLG girly gunners thread rather
parklanebert
lol, spurs must have been training hard. great goals from great techniques. Great move from Redknapp, instead of passing to an inept striker, why not diy?
korodon
sour grapes. were fighteing for our lives an thats exactly what we done......ye though it was a stroll in park..............well it was for 88 minutes
123spurs
To be fair your goals were complete gifts aswell. Another day you would of won but at the same time we could have also. Did think you played exceptional at times.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Great write-up, there's nothing much to really add, is there? But we also need to stay positive because whilst it isn't brilliant, we're still in an OK position. The issues that we have can be rectified. The one thing I've been thinking about is why let Gilberto go? I honestly feel that if he was playing in the middle of the park with Cesc, we would have seen the game out. The other really worrying thing is the ease in which it appears that teams can slice through our midfield and get into dangerous, attacking positions. I'm sorry, but I just don't see Liverpool, Chelsea or Man Utd, being cut open as frequently as we are presently.
Gooner_Vin
I'm really interested as to why some fellow Arsenal are on about our league position? What do you honestly expect? A title challenge? That aint gonna happen fellas i'm afraid, don't know how much more evidence you need. 123spurs i'd love to meet you you little cyberwarrior mug.
shewore
see u at the lane kid, this time dont be so arrogent, cant deny facts, after last night match
123spurs
people like you always take the bait
123spurs
Judging by your spelling/grammar/all round grasp of the English language, i'd hazard a guess you're not English. Therefore i doubt i'd see you at the lane.
shewore
funny how u change subject fast
123spurs
'see you at the lane kid' = fundamentally wrong, as it sounds like you've never set foot at the lane, probably don't even know where it is.
shewore
People love to exagerate. At the end of the day we have played our most difficult fixtures and are still 3rd in the table. We have got rid of tricky fixtures such as Everton, Spurs, Fulham, Blackburn, Sunderland, West Brom, Newcastle, Bolton, West Ham & Hull and scored 20 points on the board. We should stay unbeaten in November to top the table with easy games to Man United, Villa, Chelsea & Man city. By Christimas we should have strectched our lead when we face villa again and Liverpool. The futures bright, the futures Arsenal
paul_ownz
The game was re-running on TV just now and I told dad to watch it as it's brilliant entertainment for a neutral. I couldn't bring myself to watch it. But everything's just as vivid reading your piece, so tough job well done LD.
GoonerLou
Paul - spot on mate!
shewore
LondonGooner Arsenal did a lap of honour when Gallas scored late against Manchester United last season I know I was at the game with my Gooner friend who had corporate tickets! Get your fact right Eh!! Arsenal are no push over their one of the top Four and to come back from 4.2 down in the 89th min is an achievement, any team in world football would have reacted the same way after doing that! Given our nightmare start to the season, the fact that we're bottom of the league and the fact that is a North London Derby how can you criticize us for celebrating like that? I think your Jealous that at least our players know the meaning of Arsenal V Tottenham! If your players had half as much passion for the tradition you would have won last night!!! COYS
DazzaTHFC
Dont talk rubbish mate. I commend Spurs for getting back in to it, but dont make out you showed great character to get back in to it. At 4-2 your team had given up, and if not for a slip would of been a routine win. For 85 minutes Arsenal showed great passion and limited you to long range shots. Infact all your chances came from long range. We showed carelessness for the last 10 and got punished.
paul_ownz
LD great write up, despite being a spur can't disagree with too much there. LG - "Awful result against an even worse Spu*s team, we should of walked that game with our eye's closed" It's that attitude which got your players in trouble in the first place, even more shocking is your refusal to adapt your stance after yesterdays NLD. Good game fellas and 'good' luck for the seaon
Phartman87
paul_ownz so let me get this straight.. A player slips on the halfway line and we automatically get two goals credited to us?? If Jenas had blazed it over we wouldn’t be having this convo!! It still took a brilliant composed finish from JJ surely this was down to his footballing ability?? and even then we still needed another goal with only stoppage time left, you talk Bollox, and if we are going along these lines, If the linesman who was 2 F***ing yards away had seen RVP dive as clearly as the world did on sky their would have been no free kick no quick fire second goal and no need for us to chase the game or are you forgetting how Evan the first half was?? Two can play that game mate don’t talk B******t!!
DazzaTHFC
I am not talking about the quality of your players, goals. You said "I think your Jealous that at least our players know the meaning of Arsenal V Tottenham! If your players had half as much passion for the tradition you would have won last night". To get to 4-2 from a goal down we must of showed a lot of passion. And for 20 minutes your players had given up. So your basically saying your 3 mintues of "passion" or fight you showed from the 90th onwards showed Spurs were this team of chracter who kept going and didnt know when to quit until they got their just rewards. Give me a break. Fair enough if you had peppered our goal with shots looking for a way back in, but if you check the stats between the 70th and 90th you will see what state of mind your team was in
paul_ownz
I disagree our players didnt give up all night!! Arsenal are no pushovers you had the bit between your teeth it was difficult to create chances thats why the stats wasnt in our favour, when Jenas scored he had about four supporting players hardly signs that they had given up, and yes granted Arsenal players showed passion, but they assumed this was ANY other game towards the end hence the eye off the ball they assumed it was wrapped up, but we still had it all to do and if we was lacking passion it simply wouldnt have happened..
DazzaTHFC
It's not the players fault - becoming spoilt is almost institutional in the modern game, but the main fault is with our manager here. He is asking the team to perform way beyond their mental station, and while it happens sometimes and spellbinds everyone, when it fails it shows us up for what we are - a bunch of exquisitely talented pampered kids. Blaming Clichy for errors in a string of games is a bit selective as these are practically the only clumsy moments Gael has had. If anything he is the one player who has shown more fight than his colleagues in recent games... If anything he, like most of the team and especially Fabregas are lost without older players around - you can feel them crying out for a role-model or authority figure in the team and Wenger hasn't provided that, so we're paying the price for it. Also, Arsene's subs last night were totally lame and didn't spell out any noticeable change of tactics - even Myles Palmer noted this and I think correctly, said that Vela/Bendtner would have been better bets in such a high tempo game.
Andy-bayor
And like a broken record, I'll say that players should only do interviews once a year (at the end of the season) - I don't care and I dont think anyone else gives a fig what Cesc or Clichy's have to say about our tactics or our approach, so why oh why does the club let them do these interviews. Let the manager the talk and the players train for god's sake!
Andy-bayor
I said it before the match, it will be a draw, spurs will finish mid table, and arsenal will win nothing this season again, in the summer 2 or 3 of your stars will walk AGAIN!
chinaman123
To be honest i didn't feel we were secure even at 4-2 up but i couldn't have imagined this. I kept getting reminders of LD's basketball analogy throughout the game...
Gael-Force
Wenger,red faces,talking *********,love it
Francespurs
Maybe so chinaman. But in a year or two Spurs will have their over-inflated sense of self-importance back, and you - like all your fickle brethren - will turn on 'Arry for not getting you top 4 football. FACT.
Moorish
Arsene can paint it any way he wants but his strategy of a young, small squad primarily focused on playing the beautiful game isn't working and is unlikely to work. The competition in the Premiership now is way too strong. The core of our strength last season was Hleb-Flamini-Fabregas and Rosicky when fit, That midfield had balance and brought the best of each player. Now we're back in a transition again with players trying to learn how they play and, for me, Denilson and Cesc don't work. Is it just me that thinks Cesc's body language this season seems like his heart or belief is not really here any more?
Gooner_Vin
paul owez, ur in cocoooooooooooooooo cococo land mate
123spurs
The reason arsenal players dont understand the north london derby is because only one of them is British.... The arse's foreign legion have no passion for it. The players get their arrogance off Wenger and their dirty tricks. Lets get it straight her gooner scum... you were gifted two goals just as you claim we were. You dominated periods of the game but you did not win, you were at home you are higher in the table than us, you had a two goal cushion with 8 minutes to go, but YOU DID NOT BEAT US, know why....? Cos 'we are Tottenham We are Tottenham Super Tottenham from the Lane' And as for the emirates 'noise' it was only one decible up from the library still quiet and nowhere near the lane. Our players and manager are a decent bunch, we dont cheat, dont dive and dont moan and give credit where its due. Your players are arrogant and your manager is worse, he has no humility and can never give credit where its due, and thats a bad trait in a person. Wherever we are in the table im just glad we are not Arsenal....
silent_but_ledley1
If you are super Tottenham, then why have you not beat us in the league in 9 years or beaten us at our ground in 15? If you are super, we must be far and beyond.
paul_ownz
We just are super..... but you didnt beat us yesterday despite us being bottom and having no confidence or top class strikers... we didnt even have ledley king in defence! lets face it you guys wanted revenge for the 5 - 1 drubbing but you ended up feeling even more *****ed off!!! HAHA
silent_but_ledley1
Well we didnt have Rosicky. Same argument
paul_ownz
Silent but ledley, what about Pavluychenko's lovely little roll in the second half, feigning injury until Spurs won the ball back when he magically sprung back up? Your British core currently sits bottom of the league, how can you possibly argue that they have more passion that Arsenal? Nobhead.
Little Dutch
Clichy is entitled to make an occasional gaff, after all he's covering for that useless pair of central defenders most of the time. The only reason he got caught on the ball was that he didn't trust the others to clear properly. The gallas 'so called' injury is the way out of a coward after being rightly castigate by his manager. I just hope silvester the cartoon cat is dropped also, and we play with Toure and Djourou in defence. Nordtveit is also back from loan, I think Wenger's had enough of gallas
bseymour
DazzaTHFC and Co, it may of been that attidtude, but it is a true statement, we are a better team, playing better football in a better position in the league, what is wrong with saying? Do you dispute the facts???
LondonGooner
silent_but_ledley1 - It's Di*kheads like you that make the majority of football fans despise Spu*s, what a complete and utter mug! That's 5 seconds of my life i'll never get back now!
LondonGooner
LG u**** i'm sorry but SBL1 is right You had a 2 goal lead we are bottom of the table lacking in confidance and thought it was gonna be an easy pay pack for the 5-1 kicking!, But NO!!! lol!!! that is what you get for being to far up ya own ****ing arse!!! like you did with the whole of last season you did the same with this match............... YOU BOTTLED IT AND COULDN'T HANDLE THE PRESSURE!! FACT!!! Until Wenger admits you need more than school boys you wont win ****!. I'll be the 1st to say you play the best football around 100% with out doubt........ But at the end you just keep bottleing it and can't handle it??? Gallas LOL!!! Captain lol!!!! need i say more he cry's on the pitch lol!!! Where's the man in theat for Wengers lil boy's lol!!!!!
99%TwIsTeD
I also noted that Almunia didn't get up too quickly. As you are probably sick and tired of me saying, as a goalkeeper myself, that if you make a save or spill a shot, you HAVE to be up quickly. If Almunia had got up quickly I don't think Bent would have scored. I still maintain ALL of Spurs goals were lucky. A 40yrd strike that Bentley if he trys that another 100 times won't score, Deflection off Gallas which fell for Huddlestone to strike which Almunia spilled for Bent, Clichys slip which allowed Jenas to get a run on goal (although to be fair it was a good finish) and Modric's shot was deflected by Silvestre onto the post and fell straight to Lennon! On another day deflections favor you but on Wednesday night they didn't.
itsup4grabsnow
99%. I just want to congratulate you on the articulated way you put across your argument. It is well structured and a fine example of our great English language. Bravo sir. I'm suprised you haven't been put through to be Poet Laurette yet..........
itsup4grabsnow
I love the way SBL and 99% twisted (only 99%? I think you have overestimated yourself sir) use the fact that Spurs are bottom as a stick to beat us with. Ostensibly, you're saying, "we're ***** and you couldn't beat us!" Not really much of a point scorer when you think about it.
Little Dutch
As one would see we have some very hurting gooner's here which just can not admit the truth as it hurts so much lol!! Wenger is loosing it slowly but surley. IU4G well said i must say but PLEASE be real are you really trying to tell me that Spurs were all luck and Arsenal nothing but pure skill??? In this friendly banter that one yid is having with several gooners surley you must say that Spurs were in no better position than Arsenal ?? Our goalkeeper was a joke from miniute 1 lol!! and our deffence mekes me chuckle so really neather team should have scored as many as they did!! With Bentley what a good goal yes there was luck envolved bet he got what he went for did he not? the man never closed his eye's did he??. IU4G was this written better sir?? Bravo what a banter x
99%TwIsTeD
Sorry IU4G I did forget to ask you a question..... Was i wrong or was I right in what i said before... ie being that Arsenal where to far up them selves to see the danger of underestermating another team, Having a 2 goal advantage plus the advantage of being at home!! Who really felt the MUG'S us or you?? True Spurs are bottom and looking poor at the moment but if you have any sense about football yoyou truely know we should not be there. We faild due to having our bored the wrong way and a manager who tried spainish football on English land. We will survive we will be back, As we have already proved......... Any team except Man Utd or Chelsea is happy with a point at Arsenal so dont dis us for being happy at the end. You lost out not us............
99%TwIsTeD
99%, yes much better written thank you! I perhaps should have worded it a bit differently in that there was an ELEMENT of luck rather than just complete/flukey/total luck of Spurs' goals and i would probably be quite hypocritical not to mention that our second goal was from a poor pass from Hutton too. In answer to your question I don't think it was us being up ourselves no. I think it was more complacency than anything else as our passing became poor and maybe you could also say about Wenger's substitutions allowed you to come onto us as well. But it's open to interpretation Unfortunately, from a gooner point of view, now Redknapp is in charge I think that you will stay up to be honest.
itsup4grabsnow
Hmmm, your stock disposition has not changed. Spurs are crap so let them have their ickle day in the sun. The funny thing is, accusing us of being up our own arses on articles like these, which are frank dissections of our problems, cuts very little ice. Mind the gap.
Little Dutch
IU4G, Thank you for the honest opinion and is good to see a man just be honest about the game! To end it all it has been intresting talking and sharing opinion's with Gooner's which i never thought was possible (LOL!!?) But as from the other night i think we all learnd somthing and that is football is a funny game? To end it all I think we can all say what a game and one to go down in the books for sure............. I look forward to speaking to you again some time on our opinions of football. Best wishes from a true spurs fan 99%Twisted.
99%TwIsTeD
 

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