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Bitter Brown Belittles Efforts Of Unlucky Hull ...

After a controversial FA Cup quarter final at Ashburton Grove, Hull City manager unleashed a rabid rant aimed at practically every person involved with Arsenal Football Club after his side slumped to a 2-1 defeat.

Former club captain, William Gallas scored a late winner against Hull from an offside position but replays showed (or should as say one replay, as most angles where inconclusive) that Johan Djourou did indeed get a touch to the ball which eventually found it's way to Gallas. Unlucky indeed, but Hull City Gaffer Phil Brown let rip at match officials, Arsene Wenger and Arsenal fans for, apparently, cheating the Tigers out of a place in the semi finals.

"I can`t use that word I`m afraid — but that`s the case. I`m glad you said that word . . . thank you. We lost the game unfairly. But I didn`t use the word cheat, you did.' ranted Brown

'It`s very hard to take. The game was turned on its head when the referee succumbed to local pressure. The referee bowed to pressure from the crowd and from Arsène Wenger. It`s an absolute disgrace, to tell you the truth. We`ve not been beaten by Arsenal, who are fourth in the Premier League, we`ve been beaten by the linesman. It`s disgraceful."

The Tigers gaffer also slated Arsenal fans for booing his players for time wasting after only 15 minutes. What's worse? Booing for time wasting after only 15 minutes, or time wasting after only 15 minutes? Arsenal fans paid their money to watch 90 minutes of football, not the the 60 dished out by Hull.

Brown then turned his attentions to current Arsenal captain, claiming he'd spat at the feet of City assistant manager Brian Horton.

'Fàbregas spat at our assistant manager," Brown claimed. "I was there, I witnessed it, he spat at my assistant manager down the tunnel. That`s their club captain. Hopefully he`s proud of himself. He spat at his feet. My club captain wouldn`t do that and I`m not bothered if he apologises. For Arsenal`s club captain to spit at my assistant shows you what this club is all about."

Weirdly enough, this accusation that Cesc spat at Horton's feet in the players tunnel came shortly after Brown claimed live on Setanta that Fabregas spat in Horton's face on the pitch.

Fabregas strenuously denies the allegations, "I absolutely and categorically deny I spat at anyone and I cannot understand why Hull are making these accusations against me.'




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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday March 18 2009

Time: 1:26AM

Your Comments

I can't believe you would claim to see something with your own eyes and claim two different versions of it. I guess that sort of blatant dishonesty is what HIS club is all about...
TPowell
I can't believe you would claim to see something with your own eyes and claim two different versions of it. I guess that sort of blatant dishonesty is what HIS club is all about...
TPowell
Phil Brown and Hull can eff off back to the Championship for all I care.
GregorFC
Phil Brown and Hull can eff off back to the Championship for all I care.
GregorFC
THEY wasted THEIR time, THEY descided to play THEIR pathetic gameplan, THEY did not take THEIR chances. nobody came ova to meet arsene half way for greeting. there is no proof of fabrigas spittin on anyone. if u ask me, phil brown is mad about losing arsene said that in his 12 yrs in england he has learned not to comment on what happens in the tunnel on after match comments i suggest phil brown take that peice of advice from the professor
akenyangunner
THEY wasted THEIR time, THEY descided to play THEIR pathetic gameplan, THEY did not take THEIR chances. nobody came ova to meet arsene half way for greeting. there is no proof of fabrigas spittin on anyone. if u ask me, phil brown is mad about losing arsene said that in his 12 yrs in england he has learned not to comment on what happens in the tunnel on after match comments i suggest phil brown take that peice of advice from the professor
akenyangunner
Cesc on arsenal.com: "I categorically deny that I spat at anybody after the match. I have never done this in my whole career on the pitch." I will believe Cesc until I see evidence that says otherwise. But he lied in this statement. Watch this and tell me Cesc did not spit in Ballack's face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndebzpsoi9A
gunnerkid107
Cesc on arsenal.com: "I categorically deny that I spat at anybody after the match. I have never done this in my whole career on the pitch." I will believe Cesc until I see evidence that says otherwise. But he lied in this statement. Watch this and tell me Cesc did not spit in Ballack's face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndebzpsoi9A
gunnerkid107
gunnerkid107 - that link doesnt show any spit coming from fabregas, it shows him swearing at ballack and perhaps some saliva / spit came out but thats not proof that fabregas spat at anybody
u-man
gunnerkid107 - that link doesnt show any spit coming from fabregas, it shows him swearing at ballack and perhaps some saliva / spit came out but thats not proof that fabregas spat at anybody
u-man
Accidental saliva wouldn't cause Ballack to make that big of a flinch. But as you said you can't actually see the spit, so I take back that he lied.
gunnerkid107
Accidental saliva wouldn't cause Ballack to make that big of a flinch. But as you said you can't actually see the spit, so I take back that he lied.
gunnerkid107
Erm Michael Ballack is a serial con Artist, Ask the chelsea fans who hated before he joined for a blatant dive he made against them in a champions league 1/4 final. Im not saying he definetly didnt do it im just saying theres no real proof he definetly did. As soon as I got home I watched the 2 interviews on Sky and Setanta and Brown changes his story http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/03/01/1133673/phil-brown-i-hope-geovanni-fails-his-drug-test this is the kind of thing Phil Brown is all about perma-tanned love child of fat Sam Allardyce
iceman10
Erm Michael Ballack is a serial con Artist, Ask the chelsea fans who hated before he joined for a blatant dive he made against them in a champions league 1/4 final. Im not saying he definetly didnt do it im just saying theres no real proof he definetly did. As soon as I got home I watched the 2 interviews on Sky and Setanta and Brown changes his story http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/03/01/1133673/phil-brown-i-hope-geovanni-fails-his-drug-test this is the kind of thing Phil Brown is all about perma-tanned love child of fat Sam Allardyce
iceman10
Brown is just a clone of dirty Sam a useless nobody who has s.it for brains. His comments are 'we can take as long as we like to take a free kick or a goal kick. I saw Ces spit at my assistant I saw it whether it hit him in the face or on his clothes or at his feet it does not matter I saw him spit. There was no reason at all for the Arsenal skipper to spit at my assistant, nothing was said'. Those were his own words. He is a liar a useless piece of crap.
alwaysgunner
Brown is just a clone of dirty Sam a useless nobody who has s.it for brains. His comments are 'we can take as long as we like to take a free kick or a goal kick. I saw Ces spit at my assistant I saw it whether it hit him in the face or on his clothes or at his feet it does not matter I saw him spit. There was no reason at all for the Arsenal skipper to spit at my assistant, nothing was said'. Those were his own words. He is a liar a useless piece of crap.
alwaysgunner
I'd like to see AW come out and condemn Phil Brown for being the worst kind of loser and threaten him with court. Hope you get relegated you lying scum. Imagine trying to cause as much trouble as possible on your way out the door just because you're bitter about losing. You certainly learned well from your master Fat Sam.
julieloveshenry4ever
I'd like to see AW come out and condemn Phil Brown for being the worst kind of loser and threaten him with court. Hope you get relegated you lying scum. Imagine trying to cause as much trouble as possible on your way out the door just because you're bitter about losing. You certainly learned well from your master Fat Sam.
julieloveshenry4ever
Justice for all their bull*****! What a great way to beat an absolute sham of a manager and a poxy football team! Offside? Yes please. Next time we play them I want Adebayor to bulldose their fullback, headbut the keeper and then pick the ball up and throw it into the net, all done while offside! Now that would be a wonderful way to beat them. KUNTS!
Trennon
Justice for all their bull*****! What a great way to beat an absolute sham of a manager and a poxy football team! Offside? Yes please. Next time we play them I want Adebayor to bulldose their fullback, headbut the keeper and then pick the ball up and throw it into the net, all done while offside! Now that would be a wonderful way to beat them. KUNTS!
Trennon
I can't believe that Cesc would spit at their assistant coach. As for the time wasting the Ref should have booked the Hull Keeper in the 1st Half, the Hull team took every chance to slow the game, every goal kick, free kick, and throw in. I'm so glad we beat them!!!
hackneyval
I can't believe that Cesc would spit at their assistant coach. As for the time wasting the Ref should have booked the Hull Keeper in the 1st Half, the Hull team took every chance to slow the game, every goal kick, free kick, and throw in. I'm so glad we beat them!!!
hackneyval
this PB fella looked to be mentally disturbed, the few occasions when the camera caught him after decisions that didn't go his team's way - the way he laughed and gestured suggested a mental state that was critically unstable. imo I feel he needs to seek professional help fast. AW, being wise as always, probably wants to avoid being harassed (instead of handshake) by someone he could not legally hold liable for (following doctor's assessment on the guy's mental condition)
Temasek
this PB fella looked to be mentally disturbed, the few occasions when the camera caught him after decisions that didn't go his team's way - the way he laughed and gestured suggested a mental state that was critically unstable. imo I feel he needs to seek professional help fast. AW, being wise as always, probably wants to avoid being harassed (instead of handshake) by someone he could not legally hold liable for (following doctor's assessment on the guy's mental condition)
Temasek
If you manage 6 shots all game only 2 on target and concede almost 70% of possession playing 60% of the game in your own half then you can't really claim bad luck as the reason for your defeat. Brown's disappointment is not that we got away with it - it is that his flukey early goal wasn't enough for his team to. If the ref did 'succumb to pressure' from the crowd then at least the Gooner support did their job for the first time in an age.
Amos.
If you manage 6 shots all game only 2 on target and concede almost 70% of possession playing 60% of the game in your own half then you can't really claim bad luck as the reason for your defeat. Brown's disappointment is not that we got away with it - it is that his flukey early goal wasn't enough for his team to. If the ref did 'succumb to pressure' from the crowd then at least the Gooner support did their job for the first time in an age.
Amos.
Well done Arsenal, you are now within a "spit" of another FA cup final.
fifthcolumnblue
Well done Arsenal, you are now within a "spit" of another FA cup final.
fifthcolumnblue
I used to like Phil Brown, I really did. I admired how his taken had taken a real crack at the PL. And do I blame his team for time wasting in order to get to their first FA cup semi-final in forever? Obsolutely not, no way. But don't then go on to blame our manager and fans for your players getting booked when this game plan fails you bitter ***** stain.
Rocky7
Come on guys, how many times have arsenal wasted time in the corners when they are leading a match, all teams do it. The main points are if Fabregas did spit at someone then its disgraceful and not what you would expect of club captain. As for AW not shaking hands at the end of the game is a bit sad really, wont be looking to good in the media today.
wright8
I used to like Phil Brown, I really did. I admired how his taken had taken a real crack at the PL. And do I blame his team for time wasting in order to get to their first FA cup semi-final in forever? Obsolutely not, no way. But don't then go on to blame our manager and fans for your players getting booked when this game plan fails you bitter ***** stain.
Rocky7
Come on guys, how many times have arsenal wasted time in the corners when they are leading a match, all teams do it. The main points are if Fabregas did spit at someone then its disgraceful and not what you would expect of club captain. As for AW not shaking hands at the end of the game is a bit sad really, wont be looking to good in the media today.
wright8
It baffles me as to why Fabregas would do this after we WON a game? After a defeat we have been well known to kick off but after a win? Add to that the spit has moved from his face to his feet to his direction and from the pitch to the tunnel? Unless evidence is put forward to back up this claim I want the club to take this accusation as far as possible.
iceman10
It baffles me as to why Fabregas would do this after we WON a game? After a defeat we have been well known to kick off but after a win? Add to that the spit has moved from his face to his feet to his direction and from the pitch to the tunnel? Unless evidence is put forward to back up this claim I want the club to take this accusation as far as possible.
iceman10
Wright8 - the difference between Arsenal timewasting and Hull time wasting is that Arsenal waste time with the ball on the pitch, thus giving Hull a fair shot at winning the ball back, Arsenal have no such opportunity when the ball is at the sixyard box for a minute at every goal kick.
Rocky7
Wright8 - the difference between Arsenal timewasting and Hull time wasting is that Arsenal waste time with the ball on the pitch, thus giving Hull a fair shot at winning the ball back, Arsenal have no such opportunity when the ball is at the sixyard box for a minute at every goal kick.
Rocky7
If you watched Wenger leave the pitch at the end of the game there wasn't a refusal to shake Brown's hand - it wasn't there to shake. If Brown had offered it I am sure it would have been taken. The media makes far too much of such incidents. As for controversial decisions going against you Arsenal have been on the receiving end often enough not to feel contrite if one goes for us. Hull will have benefited themselves in the past I am sure. The bottom line is that the best team won. No-one need feel any sympathy because a well organised but workmanlike side, employing 'professional' tactics, lost. In reality they were 2nd best all night and Brown was wrong in saying we didn't beat them. We did - and they lost because they weren't good enough. It's that simple. Brown would have been better served admitting that reality.
Amos.
And the Biggest Whiner award for this decade goes to Phil Brown. Critiques are still bewildered over how he managed to outdo the greatest master whiner the BPL has ever seen in Alex Ferguson. Expert pundits believe he has the qualities necessary to succeed Alex Ferguson in the future, while shoving big names in the past like Mounrinho away.
nevidimka
If you watched Wenger leave the pitch at the end of the game there wasn't a refusal to shake Brown's hand - it wasn't there to shake. If Brown had offered it I am sure it would have been taken. The media makes far too much of such incidents. As for controversial decisions going against you Arsenal have been on the receiving end often enough not to feel contrite if one goes for us. Hull will have benefited themselves in the past I am sure. The bottom line is that the best team won. No-one need feel any sympathy because a well organised but workmanlike side, employing 'professional' tactics, lost. In reality they were 2nd best all night and Brown was wrong in saying we didn't beat them. We did - and they lost because they weren't good enough. It's that simple. Brown would have been better served admitting that reality.
Amos.
And the Biggest Whiner award for this decade goes to Phil Brown. Critiques are still bewildered over how he managed to outdo the greatest master whiner the BPL has ever seen in Alex Ferguson. Expert pundits believe he has the qualities necessary to succeed Alex Ferguson in the future, while shoving big names in the past like Mounrinho away.
nevidimka
PB words (http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~1594257,00.html) : "Our game-plan was working (last night) until our goalkeeper got booked. Our game-plan wasn't to time-waste." I'm confused. What kind of game-plan will get derailed when a gk get booked?
Temasek
PB words (http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~1594257,00.html) : "Our game-plan was working (last night) until our goalkeeper got booked. Our game-plan wasn't to time-waste." I'm confused. What kind of game-plan will get derailed when a gk get booked?
Temasek
W8, I assumed u r a arsenal supporter, regarding the spit claim - either there was a misunderstanding, or if not, one party must be lying. Fab had categorically denied any wrongdoings. Until proven otherwise, I will take Fab's word and let's have some faith on our lads and stop harping on the issue
Temasek
W8, I assumed u r a arsenal supporter, regarding the spit claim - either there was a misunderstanding, or if not, one party must be lying. Fab had categorically denied any wrongdoings. Until proven otherwise, I will take Fab's word and let's have some faith on our lads and stop harping on the issue
Temasek
Thought Riley was effin terrible last night, only saving grace was that it was for both sides!
shewore
Thought Riley was effin terrible last night, only saving grace was that it was for both sides!
shewore
Riley is just a clown....he just struts around the pitch in his wimpish way wiping his nose every 5 minutes and gets all the big calls wrong. He doesnt let games flow at all. Bet he gets the semi final, him or the cowardly webb.
iceman10
Riley is just a clown....he just struts around the pitch in his wimpish way wiping his nose every 5 minutes and gets all the big calls wrong. He doesnt let games flow at all. Bet he gets the semi final, him or the cowardly webb.
iceman10
Good to see no arsenal supporter has ever been to specsavers, blind loyalty is all the rage here it seems, admitting the other side might have a valid point isn't allowed. If barmbys effort at 1-1 was offside then Gallas was so freackingly obvious.
Exiled Rabid
Seems as though the City fans are as bitter as Brown. Over at Vital Hull they are not only complaining about the offside goal, the spit allegations and "whinging Wenger" but also about a match between Arsenal and Hull that happened in 1930 .... LOL
Rocky7
Good to see no arsenal supporter has ever been to specsavers, blind loyalty is all the rage here it seems, admitting the other side might have a valid point isn't allowed. If barmbys effort at 1-1 was offside then Gallas was so freackingly obvious.
Exiled Rabid
Seems as though the City fans are as bitter as Brown. Over at Vital Hull they are not only complaining about the offside goal, the spit allegations and "whinging Wenger" but also about a match between Arsenal and Hull that happened in 1930 .... LOL
Rocky7
There is no blind loyalty here Rabid. Everyone here admits the goal was offside, indeed look at the title of the article "Unlucky Hull". But if they wanna play football in any league then they have to accept that refs make mistakes without labelling them cheats and calling the oppo manager and fans a disgrace. Arsenal have been on the end of more than their fair share of bad decisions, if Brown thinks he has been hard done by then he should try having to his Hull City side what happened to us in the 2001 FA Cup final. Swings and roundabouts.
Rocky7
There is no blind loyalty here Rabid. Everyone here admits the goal was offside, indeed look at the title of the article "Unlucky Hull". But if they wanna play football in any league then they have to accept that refs make mistakes without labelling them cheats and calling the oppo manager and fans a disgrace. Arsenal have been on the end of more than their fair share of bad decisions, if Brown thinks he has been hard done by then he should try having to his Hull City side what happened to us in the 2001 FA Cup final. Swings and roundabouts.
Rocky7
Bitter words from Brown.Your out,we did you a favour so you can focus on not dropping any futher into relgation battle
ajwb
Exiled Rabid, the fact that barmby's disallowed effort was at 1-0 was truly "freackingly obvious" that I wondered who is blind here?
Temasek
Bitter words from Brown.Your out,we did you a favour so you can focus on not dropping any futher into relgation battle
ajwb
Exiled Rabid, the fact that barmby's disallowed effort was at 1-0 was truly "freackingly obvious" that I wondered who is blind here?
Temasek
Cheating? What about when Song was deliberately blocked by a Hull player when they scored the Barmby goal that was eventually disallowed for offside. If that had been onside and allowed, then wtf would the media and everyone say?! Sod you Brown, you're a twerp, and I hope Hull are OK but you get the sack. I bet he was on the phone to Fat Sam with that ridiculous earpiece. I am SO happy we beat that sap.
Gooner_Vin
Cheating? What about when Song was deliberately blocked by a Hull player when they scored the Barmby goal that was eventually disallowed for offside. If that had been onside and allowed, then wtf would the media and everyone say?! Sod you Brown, you're a twerp, and I hope Hull are OK but you get the sack. I bet he was on the phone to Fat Sam with that ridiculous earpiece. I am SO happy we beat that sap.
Gooner_Vin
The point is not whether the linesman/ref got it right with the Gallas goal. The point is whether it was humanly possible for the linesman/ref to get it right. The ball took a deflection off Djourou's head while Myhill was trying to aim a punch at the same spot. It's only clearer in slow-motion replay that it's Djourou's head. If the linesman got it wrong, why did Brown/Hull fans have to make it sound like it was a deliberate thing, rather than an honest mistake by the linesman? Yes Wenger did complain on the touchline, but WHY? It's amazing that something so so obvious to 50,000 people at the ground and millions in front of TV (time-wasting right from the 1st half) was completely ignored by Hull fans. It's a great great shame, as the Independent match report put it, that the Hull managed had chosen to focus on these points rather than crediting his own players for actually putting up a good performance. Luck went both ways - both teams scored a lucky goal (for different reasons), the ref got decisions wrong for/against both teams. Arsenal fans, as far as we see here, acknowledge this fact, why are we being called the "disgraceful" ones when the disgraceful one was Riley and the winning team were doing nothing but celebrating and the losing team were doing the whinging with unfair, unsubstantiated accusations? Oh yeah, it's our blind support eh?
GoonerLou
The point is not whether the linesman/ref got it right with the Gallas goal. The point is whether it was humanly possible for the linesman/ref to get it right. The ball took a deflection off Djourou's head while Myhill was trying to aim a punch at the same spot. It's only clearer in slow-motion replay that it's Djourou's head. If the linesman got it wrong, why did Brown/Hull fans have to make it sound like it was a deliberate thing, rather than an honest mistake by the linesman? Yes Wenger did complain on the touchline, but WHY? It's amazing that something so so obvious to 50,000 people at the ground and millions in front of TV (time-wasting right from the 1st half) was completely ignored by Hull fans. It's a great great shame, as the Independent match report put it, that the Hull managed had chosen to focus on these points rather than crediting his own players for actually putting up a good performance. Luck went both ways - both teams scored a lucky goal (for different reasons), the ref got decisions wrong for/against both teams. Arsenal fans, as far as we see here, acknowledge this fact, why are we being called the "disgraceful" ones when the disgraceful one was Riley and the winning team were doing nothing but celebrating and the losing team were doing the whinging with unfair, unsubstantiated accusations? Oh yeah, it's our blind support eh?
GoonerLou
It looked to every intent and purpose that the keeper got a touch to the ball and deflected it behind him. Most of those in the ground and watching in real time would have come to much the same conclusion as the linesman and ref. That slo-mo replays prove otherwise doesn't change anything and as Lou says it was no more fortunate than the flukey goal Barmby scored. The best team won. Credit Hull for their obduracy and 'professionalism' but blame the defeat on them being not quite good (or fortunate) enough to win.
Amos.
It looked to every intent and purpose that the keeper got a touch to the ball and deflected it behind him. Most of those in the ground and watching in real time would have come to much the same conclusion as the linesman and ref. That slo-mo replays prove otherwise doesn't change anything and as Lou says it was no more fortunate than the flukey goal Barmby scored. The best team won. Credit Hull for their obduracy and 'professionalism' but blame the defeat on them being not quite good (or fortunate) enough to win.
Amos.
The funny thing is that most of the replay angles still made it look like Djourou never got a touch, there was only one angle that showed he did get his head on it (coincidentally the only camera angle Setanta DIDN'T show Wenger in his post match interview).
Rocky7
The funny thing is that most of the replay angles still made it look like Djourou never got a touch, there was only one angle that showed he did get his head on it (coincidentally the only camera angle Setanta DIDN'T show Wenger in his post match interview).
Rocky7
Altogether now, "Browny's cracking up, he's cracking up, he's cracking up, he's cracking….." Allow me to posit a scenario, Hull win the game last night, Wenger gives an interview afterwards akin to Brown, what's the general reaction? Benitez criticises Ferguson and it's a "mad rant." Ferguson refuses to talk to Sly Sports after defeat to Liverpool…..nothing. Try and tell me our media aren't simple xenophobes. As for Brown, the interview shows a man cracking under the pressure, some inward analysis would do him some good. Perhaps he should spend less time on the sunbed and more on the training ground.
Little Dutch
Altogether now, "Browny's cracking up, he's cracking up, he's cracking up, he's cracking….." Allow me to posit a scenario, Hull win the game last night, Wenger gives an interview afterwards akin to Brown, what's the general reaction? Benitez criticises Ferguson and it's a "mad rant." Ferguson refuses to talk to Sly Sports after defeat to Liverpool…..nothing. Try and tell me our media aren't simple xenophobes. As for Brown, the interview shows a man cracking under the pressure, some inward analysis would do him some good. Perhaps he should spend less time on the sunbed and more on the training ground.
Little Dutch
Oh and on another note, cheers to Arsenal for putting Semi Final tickets on sale at the exact moment the CL draw concludes. Booking flights and semi final tickets at the same time, brilliant organisation again. *slow handclaps*
Little Dutch
Well said LD, Brown is of the ilk like his mate Fat Sam, in that they think they are better than they are. To be honest LD they are xenophobic i think the band of average English managers simply dont like Webnger because hes A better than them and B French.
GPace
Oh and on another note, cheers to Arsenal for putting Semi Final tickets on sale at the exact moment the CL draw concludes. Booking flights and semi final tickets at the same time, brilliant organisation again. *slow handclaps*
Little Dutch
Well said LD, Brown is of the ilk like his mate Fat Sam, in that they think they are better than they are. To be honest LD they are xenophobic i think the band of average English managers simply dont like Webnger because hes A better than them and B French.
GPace
What goes on in the tunnel stays in the tunnel all real football men know this. Even Sir red nose has never told who threw pizza at him? Brown is the P word for a cat.
iceman10
What goes on in the tunnel stays in the tunnel all real football men know this. Even Sir red nose has never told who threw pizza at him? Brown is the P word for a cat.
iceman10
And Setanta's commentary and coverage was just mediocre and so biased, it's pathetic. I mean - Steve McMananaman, John Hartson and Tim Sherwood?? Sherwood didn't have a clue what he was talking about - saying "oh Arsenal aren't taking the game seriously by not playing their rested players". The only players you could argue are fringe players are Gibbs and Vela!
Gooner_Vin
And Setanta's commentary and coverage was just mediocre and so biased, it's pathetic. I mean - Steve McMananaman, John Hartson and Tim Sherwood?? Sherwood didn't have a clue what he was talking about - saying "oh Arsenal aren't taking the game seriously by not playing their rested players". The only players you could argue are fringe players are Gibbs and Vela!
Gooner_Vin
Setanta is average at best! Wenger never goes out to lose a game anD picks a team that he thinks can do a job!
GPace
Setanta is average at best! Wenger never goes out to lose a game anD picks a team that he thinks can do a job!
GPace
I actually think the Setanta pundits are pretty good (aside from Tim Sherwood of course who, at half time, claimed Wenger should NOT have picked Djourou for the starting 11 BECAUSE he performed badly in the FIRST half!! What a ******** halfwit) But Macca and Big John Hartson I thought were pretty good.
Rocky7
I actually think the Setanta pundits are pretty good (aside from Tim Sherwood of course who, at half time, claimed Wenger should NOT have picked Djourou for the starting 11 BECAUSE he performed badly in the FIRST half!! What a ******** halfwit) But Macca and Big John Hartson I thought were pretty good.
Rocky7
Craig Burley as co-commentator though? Andy Gray in his day was a very good player, very Shearer like but that was required in those days, he played at a very high level. Craig Burley was just a terrible footballer who should not be allowed near a mic.
iceman10
Craig Burley as co-commentator though? Andy Gray in his day was a very good player, very Shearer like but that was required in those days, he played at a very high level. Craig Burley was just a terrible footballer who should not be allowed near a mic.
iceman10
Lol - Fair point Icey!!
Rocky7
Lol - Fair point Icey!!
Rocky7
At one stage they had emmanuel petit as an analyst......he was not good! The worst ever was gazza at france 98 for ITV....car crash T.V
iceman10
At one stage they had emmanuel petit as an analyst......he was not good! The worst ever was gazza at france 98 for ITV....car crash T.V
iceman10
A recent item from WSC entitled "Reality Check needed at Hull City: "Recently the Hull City manager has come to be referred to Phil 'Phil Brown' Brown to mark his unfortunate fondness for the third person singular. This first came to public notice when he decreed that a particular performance was not what he expected from a 'Phil Brown team'. The other sign that the positive coverage generated by Hull's fine early-season form, which took them up to third place in early October, had gone to Brown's head somewhat came when he gave his players a half-time dressing down on the pitch at Eastlands when they trailed 4-0. Some have also wondered who exactly Brown is talking to via his earpiece, given that he is always at pitchside rather than watching from the stands, and have ungraciously assumed that he is listening to a recording of himself reciting positive slogans." The rest of the piece makes for good reading, it ends with a good paragraph about Arsenal. It's here: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3018/38
jaelle
A recent item from WSC entitled "Reality Check needed at Hull City: "Recently the Hull City manager has come to be referred to Phil 'Phil Brown' Brown to mark his unfortunate fondness for the third person singular. This first came to public notice when he decreed that a particular performance was not what he expected from a 'Phil Brown team'. The other sign that the positive coverage generated by Hull's fine early-season form, which took them up to third place in early October, had gone to Brown's head somewhat came when he gave his players a half-time dressing down on the pitch at Eastlands when they trailed 4-0. Some have also wondered who exactly Brown is talking to via his earpiece, given that he is always at pitchside rather than watching from the stands, and have ungraciously assumed that he is listening to a recording of himself reciting positive slogans." The rest of the piece makes for good reading, it ends with a good paragraph about Arsenal. It's here: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3018/38
jaelle
So I get home last night to catch skysports' coverage of the game, only to be bombarded by Brown's rant and the sky reporters going crazy at yet another Arsenal controversey. How they love this. LET'S GET ONE THING STRAIGHT: the fault lies with that incompetent do-nothing idiot Mike Riley for failing to control the game. He let Hull get on with their miserable tactics and constant, obvious fouling throughout, that made it almost impossible to play the game. The pathetic tactic of blatant, EXTREME timewasting the moment they got their goal, so early in the game, is one of the worst pieces of gamesmanship I've seen on our home ground. How Brown can believe his was the better team shows his colossal delusion. It's obvious their early success and good press in their first season in the top flight has gone to his massive head. It's a pity, because until this game I had a lot of respect for Hull and wished them well. If it's true that AW never shakes Brown's hand, then I think that's poor form on AW's part (he shakes Allardyce's and Hughes' hands, even tho there's no love loss there, so what makes Brown worse than them). However, I can't believe Cesc would do such a disgraceful thing and I think this is a case of Brown being a massive sore loser. He may well have misinterpreted something or mistaken someone else for Cesc, who knows. Or he's just lying.
jaelle
So I get home last night to catch skysports' coverage of the game, only to be bombarded by Brown's rant and the sky reporters going crazy at yet another Arsenal controversey. How they love this. LET'S GET ONE THING STRAIGHT: the fault lies with that incompetent do-nothing idiot Mike Riley for failing to control the game. He let Hull get on with their miserable tactics and constant, obvious fouling throughout, that made it almost impossible to play the game. The pathetic tactic of blatant, EXTREME timewasting the moment they got their goal, so early in the game, is one of the worst pieces of gamesmanship I've seen on our home ground. How Brown can believe his was the better team shows his colossal delusion. It's obvious their early success and good press in their first season in the top flight has gone to his massive head. It's a pity, because until this game I had a lot of respect for Hull and wished them well. If it's true that AW never shakes Brown's hand, then I think that's poor form on AW's part (he shakes Allardyce's and Hughes' hands, even tho there's no love loss there, so what makes Brown worse than them). However, I can't believe Cesc would do such a disgraceful thing and I think this is a case of Brown being a massive sore loser. He may well have misinterpreted something or mistaken someone else for Cesc, who knows. Or he's just lying.
jaelle
And one more thing: when Hull beat us on our home ground, our fans applauded their team off the pitch and applauded their fans. We gooners criticized our team's performance and credited Hull. AW said nothing critical of Hull. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CAME TO OUR HOME GROUND AND PLAYED FOOTBALL. We can take losing if the opposition PLAYS FOOTBALL, something that Hull didn't do last night. I read somewhere that Brown talked to Fat Sam about how to defeat us before last night's game. That's the game plan they came up with: pathethic, obvious, desperate timewasting 13 minutes into the game. And rotational fouling of course. Hull deserve ZERO sympathy. And btw, when we were in the lead, we didn't timewaste, we kept trying to score.
jaelle
And one more thing: when Hull beat us on our home ground, our fans applauded their team off the pitch and applauded their fans. We gooners criticized our team's performance and credited Hull. AW said nothing critical of Hull. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CAME TO OUR HOME GROUND AND PLAYED FOOTBALL. We can take losing if the opposition PLAYS FOOTBALL, something that Hull didn't do last night. I read somewhere that Brown talked to Fat Sam about how to defeat us before last night's game. That's the game plan they came up with: pathethic, obvious, desperate timewasting 13 minutes into the game. And rotational fouling of course. Hull deserve ZERO sympathy. And btw, when we were in the lead, we didn't timewaste, we kept trying to score.
jaelle
Interesting: Setanta showed Arsene the Gallas goal in the post-match interview. Now I take back what I said about Gallas being offside cos I thought we didn't see this last angle on TV before. It shows it was a legitimate goal as Myhill did touch the ball with his hand. http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/03/17/FA-Cup-Wenger-reaction/gnid-44806/
GoonerLou
Interesting: Setanta showed Arsene the Gallas goal in the post-match interview. Now I take back what I said about Gallas being offside cos I thought we didn't see this last angle on TV before. It shows it was a legitimate goal as Myhill did touch the ball with his hand. http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/03/17/FA-Cup-Wenger-reaction/gnid-44806/
GoonerLou
And the Cesc bit, here's a clip that shows he's just on the pitch congratulating his teammates and celebrating. Didn't look at all angry or ready to spit at someone lol don't you think? http://www.setanta.com/uk/Teams/Football/A/Arsenal/
GoonerLou
And the Cesc bit, here's a clip that shows he's just on the pitch congratulating his teammates and celebrating. Didn't look at all angry or ready to spit at someone lol don't you think? http://www.setanta.com/uk/Teams/Football/A/Arsenal/
GoonerLou
Brown: "I'd seen Cesc Fabregas spit at my assistant manager... whether it's at his feet, at his face, doesn't matter. I saw it." So was he sure of what he had "seen" at all?! lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7950058.stm
GoonerLou
Brown: "I'd seen Cesc Fabregas spit at my assistant manager... whether it's at his feet, at his face, doesn't matter. I saw it." So was he sure of what he had "seen" at all?! lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7950058.stm
GoonerLou
Just another "incident" in the ocean of petulant incidents you have amassed under Wenger. Seriously, how many pathetic incidents are you lot going to be involved in this season? let alone in previous seasons? and im only on about Arsenes "3rd" great team, ignoring the previous 2 who were filthy pigs. Sure Cesc we believe you youve never spat at anybody, except Ballack 2 years ago. What a horrible set of people your players still are. AFC is a toolbox.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Just another "incident" in the ocean of petulant incidents you have amassed under Wenger. Seriously, how many pathetic incidents are you lot going to be involved in this season? let alone in previous seasons? and im only on about Arsenes "3rd" great team, ignoring the previous 2 who were filthy pigs. Sure Cesc we believe you youve never spat at anybody, except Ballack 2 years ago. What a horrible set of people your players still are. AFC is a toolbox.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Price of success Yiddo, the press pick up and make up the smallest things that goes on at big clubs, unlike your muggy little outfit in Middlesex, now eff off back to Edmonton or Huddersfield wherever it is you live. Div.
shewore
Price of success Yiddo, the press pick up and make up the smallest things that goes on at big clubs, unlike your muggy little outfit in Middlesex, now eff off back to Edmonton or Huddersfield wherever it is you live. Div.
shewore
Everyone should listen to this interview with Brown from Radio 5 this morning. This guy has truly lost the plot and LD is absolutely right, the pressure is getting to him big time - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7950507.stm
Gooner_Vin
Everyone should listen to this interview with Brown from Radio 5 this morning. This guy has truly lost the plot and LD is absolutely right, the pressure is getting to him big time - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7950507.stm
Gooner_Vin
Read Brown's further comments here - apart from claiming Cesc "had no right to be there" on the pitch after the game cos he's not in the squad, the 2nd point he criticised about Cesc was that he "dressed in the manner in which he was dressed" lol lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm
GoonerLou
Read Brown's further comments here - apart from claiming Cesc "had no right to be there" on the pitch after the game cos he's not in the squad, the 2nd point he criticised about Cesc was that he "dressed in the manner in which he was dressed" lol lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm
GoonerLou
Huddersfield Yiddo - foxtrot oscar back to the drain from which you cometh you imbecile, succcess-starved, pathetic idiot.
Gooner_Vin
Huddersfield Yiddo - foxtrot oscar back to the drain from which you cometh you imbecile, succcess-starved, pathetic idiot.
Gooner_Vin
Jermanie Defore bit Mascherano a couple of years back but I guess thats ok yeah? go back to your swamp HY.
iceman10
Jermanie Defore bit Mascherano a couple of years back but I guess thats ok yeah? go back to your swamp HY.
iceman10
Oh yeah, Arsene doesn't shake Phil Brown's hand - can anyone please put this on the website?! - http://images.rivals.net/08/09/460x238/Arsene-Wenger-and-Phil-Brown_1237515.jpg
Gooner_Vin
Oh yeah, Arsene doesn't shake Phil Brown's hand - can anyone please put this on the website?! - http://images.rivals.net/08/09/460x238/Arsene-Wenger-and-Phil-Brown_1237515.jpg
Gooner_Vin
Thanks for that, Vin! You guys should put up that photo on this site today!
jaelle
Thanks for that, Vin! You guys should put up that photo on this site today!
jaelle
Shut up Spuddie- your season is OVER so toddle off and weep. Your fixation with the better half of N London is embarrassing. As ever we have bigger fish to fry!
julieloveshenry4ever
Shut up Spuddie- your season is OVER so toddle off and weep. Your fixation with the better half of N London is embarrassing. As ever we have bigger fish to fry!
julieloveshenry4ever
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7950507.stm
iceman10
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7950507.stm
iceman10
Hows the relegation fight? pi$$ off back to your craphole of a team, idiot of a manager, and joke for a club you pikey loser.
Gunnerman
Someone who supports a team that has just signed Robbie Keane and Chimbonda isn't in a position to point fingers. I also notice Brown has now denied saying "that tells you everything about this club", even though he has been filmed saying it! Someone fetch that man a straitjacket. Cuckoo, cuckoo.
Little Dutch
Hows the relegation fight? pi$$ off back to your craphole of a team, idiot of a manager, and joke for a club you pikey loser.
Gunnerman
Someone who supports a team that has just signed Robbie Keane and Chimbonda isn't in a position to point fingers. I also notice Brown has now denied saying "that tells you everything about this club", even though he has been filmed saying it! Someone fetch that man a straitjacket. Cuckoo, cuckoo.
Little Dutch
Apt for the spuddy cock and Phil brown.
Gunnerman
Apt for the spuddy cock and Phil brown.
Gunnerman
Have to agree with PB on one count Ces dress was not proper he should have been wearing his TUX everyone knows you must attend a football match in a black tie. Cretin. The man is telling lies and he has been caught out. Who saw the so called spitting incident? Brown, I did Who else brown are you calling me a liar I saw it, who else Brown I did all the match officials all the teams were in there changing rooms, hey but i saw it. Time to fess up PB and admit you were trained by the master Fat Sam, and saw nothing. New part for you in one flew over the cuckoo nest, bloody nutter.
alwaysgunner
Have to agree with PB on one count Ces dress was not proper he should have been wearing his TUX everyone knows you must attend a football match in a black tie. Cretin. The man is telling lies and he has been caught out. Who saw the so called spitting incident? Brown, I did Who else brown are you calling me a liar I saw it, who else Brown I did all the match officials all the teams were in there changing rooms, hey but i saw it. Time to fess up PB and admit you were trained by the master Fat Sam, and saw nothing. New part for you in one flew over the cuckoo nest, bloody nutter.
alwaysgunner
he's losing it... that spit claim is looking more and more dubious every time he opens his mouth!
TPowell
he's losing it... that spit claim is looking more and more dubious every time he opens his mouth!
TPowell
HORTON TO TAKE SPITTING INCIDENT FURTHER *apologies for the sensationalising, just everyone needs to see this*

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm

Bring on you utter bell end.
Gunnerman
HORTON TO TAKE SPITTING INCIDENT FURTHER *apologies for the sensationalising, just everyone needs to see this*

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm

Bring on you utter bell end.
Gunnerman
*Bring it on. The "utter bell end" bit is still right tho.
Gunnerman
*Bring it on. The "utter bell end" bit is still right tho.
Gunnerman
Ok, this proves that Sam Allardyce lives on his own very strange little planet, this just beggars belief: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Allardyce%3a_Refs_to_blame_for_diving&in_article_id=586652&in_page_id=43
jaelle
Ok, this proves that Sam Allardyce lives on his own very strange little planet, this just beggars belief: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Allardyce%3a_Refs_to_blame_for_diving&in_article_id=586652&in_page_id=43
jaelle
Just listened to the 5 live interview he did. They asked him "you said last night it shows what sort of a club arsenal are, what did you mean by that?, what sort of a club do you think they are?". To which he replied. " I didnt say that, did i?" She laughed and said " i think you did" to which he remained silent until she asked a different question. The guy is a mug and i hope he gets found out for being a lying c*** that he is
paul_ownz
Just listened to the 5 live interview he did. They asked him "you said last night it shows what sort of a club arsenal are, what did you mean by that?, what sort of a club do you think they are?". To which he replied. " I didnt say that, did i?" She laughed and said " i think you did" to which he remained silent until she asked a different question. The guy is a mug and i hope he gets found out for being a lying c*** that he is
paul_ownz
When Spuds fire 'arry next November after compiling only 12 points from their first 15 matches, Brown seems like the obvious choice to replace him- a manager whose delusions match those of the Spuddies.
elbondo
When Spuds fire 'arry next November after compiling only 12 points from their first 15 matches, Brown seems like the obvious choice to replace him- a manager whose delusions match those of the Spuddies.
elbondo
I just listened to the 5 live interview too PO and its laughable. His reaction to the who saw it question says it all. I think hes been found out for the very limited manager that he is. And why oh why is he straight onto 5 live first thing this morning. Protest too much perhaps? The top managers dont deal with things like he's doing. Lets get Cesc back on the pitch and he can do his talking there.
GPace
I just listened to the 5 live interview too PO and its laughable. His reaction to the who saw it question says it all. I think hes been found out for the very limited manager that he is. And why oh why is he straight onto 5 live first thing this morning. Protest too much perhaps? The top managers dont deal with things like he's doing. Lets get Cesc back on the pitch and he can do his talking there.
GPace
Thanks for the link GV ;)
Rocky7
Thanks for the link GV ;)
Rocky7
Phil Brown = sadcase.
Moorish
Phil Brown = sadcase.
Moorish
No worries Rocky - pleasure!
Gooner_Vin
No worries Rocky - pleasure!
Gooner_Vin
There is even a youtube link to that handshake, Rocky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeX90B0qg_g
prits
There is even a youtube link to that handshake, Rocky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeX90B0qg_g
prits
He does look a bit like Maureenho in the picture though. Maybe he's trying to be as obnoxious as him!
deledudu
He does look a bit like Maureenho in the picture though. Maybe he's trying to be as obnoxious as him!
deledudu
she wore dont waste your time replying to yiddo aka pond life leader cretins like him love to think that they have the intelligence to have a considered opinion about things when in fact they just show themselves to be mindless cretins who love the sound of their own voice
cornish gooner
she wore dont waste your time replying to yiddo aka pond life leader cretins like him love to think that they have the intelligence to have a considered opinion about things when in fact they just show themselves to be mindless cretins who love the sound of their own voice
cornish gooner
 

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