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Post Wigan Rant

You'd think that after another fight back at Ashburton Grove, and another 3 points I'd be happy.

Well you'd be wrong.

The match report will, as always, be left to the talisman, Tim Stillman, but I feel the need to speak this evening.

I am fuming at the verbal treatment that Arsenal are, and will continue to receive after this result.

There were many flash points in this game, one of the main one's being the offside in the build up to our equaliser.

It was offside, I saw it, the Wigan players saw it, infact the only people not to see it were the officials. However, lets not forget this is a game of football, mistakes are made, it happens all the time, it happened to us in the Champions League final, but you have to accept it. Anyone labelling Arsenal as cheats for this are fools, morons, idiots, whining pathetic people who should stay away from the game.

I will accept Paul Jewell's criticism of the officials over this matter, it's his team and he has every right to be annoyed.......but at the officials, no blame can be pointed at the Gunners, this happens in favour of, and against every team who ever played football.

The second point is the idiots from Sky Sports. Oh how they banged on about how Wigan deserved a penalty, Arsenal should have been down to ten men with Wigan handed the opportunity to put the game beyond doubt.

Let me set you all straight. Football is, and always has been a contact sport. Yes Flamini's hand was on Heskey's shoulder for a millisecond. Was it enough to bring this big brute of a man to the floor? Was it bollocks.

I challenge each and every person to watch footage of this incident, return and tell me whether or not Flamini had removed his hand before the big striker went down. It is plain to see. He dived. Just as Henry & Clichy did in the game. I hate diving and have always championed giving match bans to players who throw themselves to the floor.

Any player found to be diving should, by the rules of the game be issued with a yellow card. Henry wasn't, Clichy wasn't, and it was only fair that Heskey wasn't.

I'm sure I will get many comments stating it was a stonewall penalty, but it wasn't. The linesman clearly felt he went down too easily, and therefore could not give the decision in their favour.

'But why would Heskey want to go down when through on goal?' Asked the idiots on the SkySports programme. How about the fact he had the pressure of of a defender on his back and a six foot German bearing down on him. What would be easier, trying to slot the ball home in the aforementioned scenario? Or having an attempt from twelve yards with the ball lying still and the keeper forcably glued to his line?

And to think one of these so called pundits used to be a Gooner.

I'm also fuming at Jens Lehmann's booking. All through the game Wigan time wasted, much the same as many other teams have done at Ashburton grove this season. The worst offender was Chris Kirkland. For every goal kick he would take an ice age to retrieve the ball, then walk to the far end of the area to complete the goal kick, he did this many times, especially when Wigan were leading the game. When eventually Arsenal went 2-1, Jens Lehmann copied this act, ONCE, as if to mock the Wigan stopper, yet Dowd saw this as a bookable offence.

Lehmann will now miss the Carling Cup final. Ok, so even going by Arsene Wenger's words he wouldn't have played anyway, but should either Almunia or Poom suffer injury between now and the final, we will be left desperately short.

This was another incident convienently left out by the morons in the Sky Sports studio.

The last and final incident I want to rant about was the celebration to our equaliser. After much time wasting, Thierry Henry felt it necessary to goad Chris Kirkland with regards to his acts at the goal kicks and so on.

I can not defend the Gunners on this one. Henry is the club captain, and as such is in a position of responsibility, a role model for young players and the aspiring footballers outside the professional game.

I understand Henry's frustration, indeed I almost completely covered my TV in spittle screaming at the gogglebox. Yet it's not Henry responsibility to point this out, the ref should have taken note and added time accordingly.

All in all a great three points will be ruined by the filth and bile arrowed in Arsenal's direction over the course of the next few days.

Ah, that's better. Time for some beer.

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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 11 2007

Time: 7:11PM

Your Comments

I forgot to mention.....fair play to Wigan, they gave it a go and were unlucky.
Well all I can say is "Ditto". Cue an influx of rival fans...
too bloody true Paul, the tw*ts on sky sports were also saying they had every right to run the clock down aswell, what utter cr@p! no team has the right to run the clock down! I honestly couldnt believe what I was hearing! Well done TR on your first premiership goal of many! this player is the real deal!
Might I add Adebayor's 'goal' was boarder line aswell, could quite easily have been given onside....but do you hear those *****s on sky saying anything? Do you *****. GGRRRRRRRRRR
I know what you mean. It's supposed to feel good that we got the 3 points, but just all that crap laid and going to be laid out at Arsenal for the next couple of days dampens it quite a bit. I agree with all your points, but I have to say the booking on Lehmann *****ed me off the most. Frikkin Kirkland took forever and a half with those goal kicks and he completely gets away with it while Lehmann is shown the yellow. So don't you dare come off accusing us of ANYTHING (equaliser) when you got away with this! >:3 And as for Heskey, he only has himself to blame for squandering two in your face chances of goals. Although fair enough, we had our chances that we didn't capitalize as well. I have mixed feelings with Henry's celebrations as well, but at the moment with how I'm feeling, I can't really put anything against him.
I have just returned home from the game, a game I paid money to see and if it hadnt been for Chris Kirkland I would have got a lot more ball in play for my money. Dowd was disgraceful from start to finish, the booking for Jens was as inconsistent a decision as you will ever see. SKY TV are in the entertainment business yet they see fit to lambast the team trying to give the neutral punters more football and defend the team that is stealing playing time. Lets see how many subscriptions they get if the Arsenals of this world start using that turgid gameplan. What Henry did may have been wrong but was it worse than the 2 footed launch that Fitz Hall gave Gael Clichy? Last week Yakubu tumbled outside the box in an incident not disimilar to the Heskey one, you win some you lose some. When other teams have incidents like we did today it is 'desire' or british bulldog spirit, when we do it we are bad losers and cheats. I say F@*k em, lets get back that old siege mentality and show em some medals at the end of the season.
Amen to that.
That hairy handed spunk stain Keys is the biggest buffoon on the planet. Why is it those *******s on Sky have to try and hype everything up out of all proportion. Football is intrguing enough as it is without w@nkbags like him **** stirring all the time. I can't believe I'm still so angry.
I felt my first post was more negative and I want to add another one to congratulate the team for their efforts. And congratulations to Tomas Rosicky for his first PREMIERSHIP GOAL!!!! I had always envision it would be a blistering long range shot goal, but heck, there's more to come anyways! Go Rosicky!!
100% correct. "Wigan were robbed of a victory". Unbelievable stuff.
And BTW timewasting is as much a cancer of the game as diving. Its possibly worse because you are stealing money from punters pockets, hard earned cash we spent to WATCH FOOTBALL, not watch a C@*t goalkeeper drinking from his water bottle b4 taking every goalkick. Must say I havent been this vexed after a win for a long time!
Rocky, I completely get you.
however, let's all celebrate the much desired 3 pts over a few beers, and forget about the sky kUnt crew.
i think too many players go down too easily,because they can get away with it,if they went down as easily in everyday life they would be constantly on the floor,its like you clipped a players trailing leg and his leading leg collapses underneath him,its a joke,just like yakubu and senderos,no-way in the world was that a pen,and a red card,he was looking for it,and he got it,but the letter of the law states that senderos made a foul,so we suffer the consequences,they are all a bunch of cheating diving pu$$ies all of them....
fran merida
Jewell crying that this could cost them 50 million & the sky d***heads agreeing with him. Well couldn't the penalty that should never have been against boro have cost us 30+ million in a champions league place, funny but no mention of that!! Also, how could it ever have been a penalty when the initial contact yet again happened outside the area. I shouldn't rise to the s*** that Andy Gray & Richard Keys speak anymore but it does really get to me!! They do everything possible to turn any neutral against arsenal with their continued whining & deliberate attempts to cast arsenal in a bad light. Eg the Henry reaction to our equaliser was according to Keys a usual arsenal trait that they have all seen far too often!! I also failed to hear anything from Platt about how Kirkland was a bad sportsman by failing to shake Henry's hand at the end despite the fact it was he who said Wenger was out of line for refusing Pardew's handshake because at the end of a game all bad feeling should be put aside!!! They are all complete w*****s
Ashburton Gooner
Sky Sports commentary was so annoying. Andy Gray always says he enjoys our footie but every time I watch the game I feel he is biassed against us. Walcott didn't have a blinder but he played well during that first half and Andy Gray never mentioned his good play but always commented when the boy made a mistake or if something didn't come off for him. Our goal may have been offside but the 1st that was disallowed was so not. Justice and all that. And as for Flamini and Heskey, I honestly think that Heskey could have stayed on his feet. He wasnt putting that in, Lehmann was far too close and Flamini did put hands on him but if I was the ref, I'd compare their sizes, one is a 7 foot giant and Flamini is barely 5'7, would he be abe to bring Heskey down without Heskey diving? Probably not. And Kirkland was disgarceful. I was actually proud of Thierry, I would have gone one better and thrown the ball in his face. Professionalism is important but Wigan were having a laugh. I swear Kirkand was wasting time for the whole half and I was overjoyed when we scored and then beat them! Poetic justuce.
***** 'em all I say...we got the three points, they didn't. Let the haters continue to hate, a few years from now they'll have no choice but to stuff their heads in our pants as we're winning everything in sight.
we were denied a clear penalty at West Ham when Hleb was brought down, we would have gone on to win that game. Cashley Hole fouled Hleb in the build up to Essien's equaliser for chelski, and we were denied a memorable win at the Bridge. Henry was denied a good goal away to Cska and was booked for the handball which never was and had to miss the crucial away tie at Porto. we were lucky today with some decisions, but what goes around comes around..
Andy Gray kept on that the ref would add on time for all their time wasting?? Really, well considering refs have to allow 30 seconds for each sub & there were 6 which makes 3 minutes. This means that for all the time wasting & feigning of injuries that wigan players continually done he added on a grand total of 1 minute!! I think 15 minutes of injury time would have been nearer the mark!!
Ashburton Gooner
two more ******** injuries to djourou and fabregas. hope nothing is serious. please play the kids at the reebok..
you are all spot on. I have never felt so ripped of and let down after a winning a game before. the ref completely ruined what otherwise should have been a very entertaining game. there was 1 or 2 bad fouls in the game and yet we see 11 yellows I think it was. wigan were negative and taking the ***** with their time wasting so they got what they deserved. why are all refs total K*nts these days?
3 points and i dont believe that we are ranting :) !! lucky that i dont see sky here, but who the heck cares !!i didnt think the heskey dive was a penalty, and i thought it was disgraceful that henry dived. i saw nothing wrong with henry shoving his face into krikland's, for the kind of crap that kirkland was pulling. but once again, we seem to need to go 1-0 down to start playing well at home. im really happy for rosicky, for his goal, and im hoping this is the 1st of many. it was overdue.
its absolutely ridiculous the fu**** ars****. i can not even explain how frustrated i was wid KIRKhole and how much i loved to see henry do that to him. the arsho** must of felt like SHI* which is the exact words to explain hes stupid selfish acts which I CANT BELIEVE didnt get a yellow card for! i dont even no what to say
great play by Rosicky and again Theo was not that good in this match!!
Kirkland kicked each Goal kick after he passed one mins,and Jens just spent a few seconds with on one goal kick and he Jens got booked!!!!!!
After listening to Andy Gray going into detail on everything 17 year old Theo Walcott was doing wrong I knew that it was goint to be the usual day at the office for the bunch of cunning stunts at Sky! I would just love to see that anus standing on the touchline, watching his son play football, and for some other lads dad to stand there shouting at Gray's son, 'what the hell are you doing', 'you should have chipped it etc. etc. For Donald Duck's sake Gray, Walcott is 17. Get a life! As for the Henry/Kirkland incident, Thierry has got a lot more self control than I have, that's all I can say!
Spot on Rocks. I've tried to be a bit more diplomatic in my piece but you are on the money. (And I don't blame Wigan, it was the w4nker in the black who 4ucked up all game.) They did what they had to, he didn't! Fair play Wigan, well done Arsenal, and Phil Dowd, you are a first class imbecile!
Drama filled games are always a good game to watch...whether it was against a team or for the team. That's what fans crave most to watch. However, the dramas don't have to be overly one-sided. That turns the game of football into something else. Anyway, TOUCHE!! to the Gunners for grabbing those 3 points.
Never in a million years was that a Pen for Heskey. Flams had his hand on The Donkey's shoulder but Heskey must weigh a good 15 stone plus despite that he goes down like a sack of spuds! Adebayor's goal is ON ON ON side, Flamini was borderline..probably just off. As for the Henry/Kirkland incident, well Henry probably shouldn't have done it, but how many of you can honestly say you wouldn't have done the same or a similar thing?
Arsenal dont waste time ever. Far too honest. Kirkland deserved all he got. Henry showed him. Another proud day to be an arsenal fan.
Did anyone see Jens time waste is was pretty funny, i laughed my head of when he threw the ball purposelessly at the advertising sign hahaha...serves them right for doing the same just like Man Utd did before...also that Hall guy should of got a red for his tackle on clichy he was purposelessly not targeting the ball and intended tohurt clichy and the chinese commentators tended to agree (not that i could understand a word they were saying but the were making noises...loud noises)
Did Arsenal cheat to let Fitz hall score an own goal? we won 2-1 and stuff of champions. we won when we were crap. Officials are the cheats, not Arsenal
Flamini may have been offside, but Ade surely wasn't. And even though lehmann got a card (not really fair since kirkland time wasted much more), it was worth it for the laughs. Lehmann is the king, i really hope he signs on. Oh & Henry's episode w kirkland was great too. U hear all this stuff about how what he did was wrong, how come u don't hear anything about how time wasting is bad??
the offside decisions evened up, but that was a penalty. I know that Flamini could not pull Heskey down with that much ease, but he could put him of his stride. Just the tiniest of tugs buys the goalie time to get out, and from personal experience i feel if you are fouled its better to go down, and I feel you are entitled to. I agree, Henry (once again) showed a lack of class.
Jacky B
People say it levels it self up at the end of the season, some week you get the Penalty some weeks you dont. I honestly think Emule Heskey went down too easily, no doubting the foul but when a big bloke like him falls like a sack of spuds its hard to give it really.
Jacky, did you forget Adebayor's disallowed goal by chance? the cynical fouls by Baines? No yellow for Kirkland? The deliberate whack by Hall on Clichy? And lack of class by Henry? For what? Rubbing it in to a **** that wasted time from the 1st minute? you can do better than that.
and THAT was never a pen. the slightest of touches on the shoulder by a lightweight Flam on a sekwoya like heskey and he goes down Yakubu style. never a penalty, except in italy maybe.
Lets face it the authorities won't be happy until there is no contact in footie, and they have priced the proper fans out of the game so the prawn sarnie brigade can huddle in their seats with their flasks of bovril without some damn hooligan daring to cheer (or at times jeer) the team. Get rid of the passion and atmosphere and they'll be well happy!
No i didn't forget the offside, hence my opening line, and just cos heskey is a lump means any little sod can foul him? I was just merely pointing out that you got some serious rub of the green.
Jacky B
We got a bit lucky, but not serious rub of the green. Wigan should have had a penalty, we had a goal incorrectly ruled out and a goal incorrectly awarded. Baines and Hlal were lucky to stay on the pitch, Skoko should have been allowed back on in the build up to our winner. All this points to is how badly the officials performed.
Little Dutch
You cant expect anything else from Jacky B, no doubt you feel Zokora was fouled against portsmouth & I bet you were screaming that Ronaldo dived last week when he was clearly fouled!!
Ashburton Gooner
how any gooner can talk to me about diving is baffling.
Jacky B
there is a difference between momentarily placing your hand on someones shoulder and then removing it only to see the players legs collapse from underneath him whilst he does a half twist,to pulling someone back,to an extent that they cant get to the ball,or they are pulled to the ground
fran merida
ld....if the law states that its a pen and a red card for touching another player then you are right,its a foul,but imo,players are too busy looking for fouls instead of looking to score...i think the law should make it an indirect free kick instead for lame so called fouls,then maybe people like yakubu and hesky wouldnt hit the deck evrytime they get into the box
fran merida
i was in the pub last night after the game,and it was crowded,i had to push past people to get through,so not to upset them i put my hand on their shouldesr out or courtesy,and do you know what? no-one fell over,its amazing
fran merida
I appreciate that differece Fran, but putting your HAND on an opponents shoulder when he is in front of you was not within the rules last time i checked. I dont buy this "went down too easily" gear. Its a foul or its not. And in this case it was a foul.
Jacky B
Lol.. some amusing comments there, but why should the guy commiting the initial offence get away without mention? Surely Flamini is the more cynical for trying to deny a goal?
Jacky B
Why would Flamini have tried to foul him?? Heskey has been 1 on 1 with Lehmann 3 times this season & f***** every one up. So again I ask why would flamini or lehmann care if he was in on goal. However it does point to a very good reason why Heskey s*** himself & went down trying to win a penalty knowing that would be someone else's responsibility. No doubt Jacky B feels sorry for Heskey because being a scum follower he knows what its like to have players s*** themselves in a pressure situation!!
Ashburton Gooner
I think 99% of gooners would have expected a penalty should the same fould occur on one of our players. Im also 100% sure most of use would be embarrased at the histronics that achieved that penalty decision. When you have got previous as Heskey has you cannot moan about not getting decisions, remember what happend to the boy who cried wolf Emile. Lehmann is a legend! Im convinced he got booked for taking the p!$$ out of the ref in front of millions of viewers rather than timewasting. When you see the anger in Dowds face he looks as embarrased as a fat man getting barracked at a comedy club! Thierry Henry did nothing more than shout at a man who had been CHEATING the whole game. when players dive they are immediatley confronted by a baying mob from the opposition (Rightly so) and what Henry did was no different, condemn him if you want but I back his stance.
you know, i always say decisions go against you and for you and they even themselves out over the course of the season... we could all point to that champions league final when we needed decisions to go for us rather than against us, so maybe all our decisions were all used up ? at 1-1 i knew we would win, wigan had a plan and it didn't involve defending a draw, they were winning and suddenly were disrupted by a fight back and didn't know what to do, they panicked and if our goal had been given offside, we would of found another and another, such is the spirit in the side right now..
thats true,in the laws of the game putting your hand on an opponent is deemed foul play,so is simulating a dive.
fran merida
but if you are fouled you are not simulating. Once again I state that i have been "tugged back" whilst in on goal, and being an honest player, refused to go down, but it still prevented me from scoring, and I'd say I had more chance of doing so than Heskey!
Jacky B
i dont want to come on here and state things that you already no e.g you were lucky to get the result you did. but you are taking liberties complaining about unfair refereing
i am a firm believer thta henry did handball in the champions league as it hits his hand you see him turn around and look at the linesmen. he plays on after every1 else has stopped and scores and expects a goal. and u clearly havent got over it as u brought it up in the article how long after it happened
patspurs123 your a closet gooner the amount of games your watching!
i do think i have watched every arsenal game this season it is scary actually. i have only just realised.
We will get you a Fabregas shirt printed up!

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