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van Persie Facing a Lengthy Layoff

It was only last week that Arsene Wenger was discussing Arsenal's horrific record for sustaining injuries in November, and we also heard Cesc Fabregas talking about the possibility of the goals drying up.

So it should come as no surprise to anyone to hear that Arsenal's star striker, Robin van Persie was brutally mauled and injured by Giorgio Chiellini in a meaningless friendly between van Persie's Holland and Italy.

Initial fears are that it's a nasty ankle ligament inury, which could see him sidelined for a size-able chunk of the next couple of months, which will include the busy Christmas schedule.

van Persie has been in the form of his life of late, appearing a a lengthy run of games after suffering an injury riddled career, and the Dutchman has seemingly thrived after the departure of Adebayor, so it's a terrible shame that last seasons top goal scorer should be crocked in such a pointless manner.

Football is, however, a team game, we were never going to get through the campaign injury free, so we're about to find out what this squad is really made of.




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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday November 15 2009

Time: 2:32PM

Your Comments

Gutted, gutted! Sheer bad luck for Robin. And before anyone mentions the word 'injury-prone', he's not! Time for Edu to step up I'd imagine! When's Carlos coming back btw, does anyone know?
GoonerLou
Btw Rocky nice picture you picked. The solution to the Robin problem is right there!
GoonerLou
Well so we are becoming equivalent now. Some of your kids came to our site and were jumping with joy as we are havingg too manuy injuries- A. cole,Bosman,Drogba ,Lampard, Terry..... I think Terry will make it.But still no matter how weak we are it will be always a tough game for both of us.Now we need Fabregas and Clichy to get injured.LOL!! Just kidding!!!!!!!
Saimon_blues
I think it's clear that this is a bad injury but let's just hope it's weeks rather than months. On a plus side most of us did say at the beginning of the season that our attack is strong so let's hope the other players can compensate this loss and it gives players like vela a chance to show what they can do.
DBerg
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! God damnit. Just as Robin was getting all the plaudits and proving himself as one of the best strikers in Europe we get screwed. Luckioly our goals have been spread throughout the team so we can hopefully make up the shortfall between the rest of the squad. Arshavin, Walcott and Eduardo for the front three anyone?
Gunnerman
Finger on the pulse there Saimon, Clichys been out injured a while now. Really really bollix news about Robin, if anything happens to dudu now we're well shafted :(
nikolaijns
i have a gut feeling it will only be a few weeks and not months. he won't be so unlucky this time around. and moving on, why not switch back to 4-4-2 instead for the big games coming up. Eddie and Owly upfront. Nasri n Rosicky on the wings with Cesc n Song in the centre. during the game, this can always be switched to 4-3-3 with Rosicky and Cesc both capable of joining upfront..
luckys_10
Just watched the clip of him getting injured, it was a great tackle from Chiellini to be fair. Just bad luck, but every team has to cope with injuries and I think we'll be OK.
bowiecokemirror
Latest news is that he has ruptured ankle ligaments and will be out for a prolonged period but won't need surgery.
Amos.
Let's just hope that Robin comes back ready to set the Prem on fire again and that we are still in the Hunt for the Title! It's time for all our players to step up to the plate, and for us to keep up the good work. Get Well Soon RvP!
hackneyval
Well, that is it then; a few months out of action, again, for RvP. My concern is that we still have a few players playing again, midweek. Fingers crossed, for that one. The 4-3-3 formation allows a great deal of flexibility which can be used to the team's advantage, while this injury spell lasts and we have the players who can switch between 4-4-2 & 4-3-3, swiftly. But, we shall miss his great hold up play and subtle passing skills which have made his assists stat (one of) the best this season. On another note (way off topic), Switzerland just won the U-17 World cup trophy, beating Nigeria 1-0 in front of our home crowd in Abuja, tonight. The news here is that the Swiss paraded Sead Harjrovic, one from the Arsenal Youth team; also, it was a first for Sepp Blatter to be handing a Soccer trophy to his Country men (the Swiss have never won anything i can remember), who had a Cinderella story of sorts, this being their first time in the WC finals. Amazing team, they won every game (100% record) leading to the cup.
Naijagunner
Dunno about how people think Dudu is going to adequately replace Robin, won't happen, at least not with the way we're playign now. Robin comes deep and gets the ball, makes things happen if they're not happening, whereas Eduardo plays off the last defender, rarely comes deep enough to play the role Robin has been and doesn't have the vision or passing ability or strength to do what Robin has been doing. The player most suited to replace Van Persie is Bendtner but sadly he is out injured too. If Eduardo is to come in and play the front role in a 4-3-3 we're going to have to significantly alter our build up play and movement and will need a lot more out of himself and Arshavin than the odd good finish, both players will have to get a lot moe involved in the game.
Ozi Gooner
Anyone think Arshavin should play there? He would surely be more suited to the link-up aspect of the game, and also has the ability to make runs and score goals.
Tom14
This has also just raised Chamakh's price tag another 5m. I do think arshavin is a good shout to move into that role. He would be a lot more productive. Would leave room for Diaby to reassume the left wing position too.
MeetTheGunners
Seems RvP has told Dutch TV he'll be out for 4 to 6 weeks. Which means he could be back by the end of next month.
Amos.
i think we should be okay. 4-3-3 for me now would be: defence (gibbs, gallas, verminator, sagna/eboue), midfield (cesc, nasri, song), and attack (eduardo, rosicky and arshavin). the good thing is that our players are mostly capable of playing in several positions such as rosicky, nasri, arshavin. my concern now is our backline, our cover there isnt as deep as in attack. injuries to our CB would be damaging.
supersof
slightly better news http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5696973,00.html
nikolaijns
This does totally suck, for RVP more than anyone. To get injured when you're on such great form. But this is the footballing world (as we Arsenal fans are all too aware of) and we will have to deal. We have the players to cope with it.
FuiKaka
pity to see good genuine players get injured, had same when modric got injured for us
123spurs
Oh Van ****** enjoy watching the Tottenham from your armchair haha coldnt have happened to amore confident in themselves club tough ***** boys what goes around comes around now lets see how much depth your squad really has !!
Uskok
what goes around comes around? We've had at least 4 or 5 injuries to key players this whole season, my god you spuddies have no concept of what goes on outside of three point lane
TPowell
I see UsCock continues to bless us with his presence and knowledge. Seeing how miserable his life must be brings me the utmost joy.
gunnerkid107
Feel sorry for you Arsenal fans at this stage but now you know how we City fans feel about Robinho's injury.
Thaibluefan
rofl at comparing Robinho to Robin Van Persie. Maybe 3 seasons ago champ but Robinho isn't even on the same planet as RVP anymore. One bangs in goals and assists for fun the other is Ronaldo without the goals and more frequent trips back to their mum.
Ozi Gooner
Yo Ozi - the comparison might be a bit fairer if Robinho hadn't been out injured for two months of this season. And no offence, but he did score 15 goals in his first season in English football, so we'll see who has the most goals come the end of the season shall we? Now that RVP is injured it should level the playing field somewhat.
fifthcolumnblue
Don't even bother comparing the two, please, just don't. Arsenal have already ridiculed your baseless summer hype, don't add to it yourself.
Tom14
RvP has told Dutch Press that he will be out for 4-6 wks! I hope that all it will be.
hackneyval
When are Walcott and Vela back? I think this could be their chance. I also thing Nasri can do well in the front 3, even Diaby if Denilson comes back to play in midfield alongside Cesc and Song. Maybe some opporunities for Wilshere/Ramsey?
afri-gooner
Looking forward to Wenger's press conference - surely the Premier League are approaching such a position of power that we can get rid of these ****ing pointless games, England's game was a case in point - how much could Capello have learnt from that ffs 'yep, Brown's still ****'
shewore
This is why I admire Stephen Ireland for being honest enough to admit he doesn't give a ***** about international football, most players are too gutless and end up pulling out with "injury" or playing at a half arsed pace. Make no mistake, losing RvP is monumental and, though I suppose it's only conjecture, any prolonged period without him will indefinitely cost us points which we can't afford to lose. It would be the same if United lost Rooney, Chelsea lost Drogba or Liverpool lost Torres. As usual, it is one of our players that suffer the injury. Fabregas and especially Arshavin are going to have to stay fit and on top form.
Little Dutch
I don't think we should lose many points because of this LD. If we can't beat Sunderland, Liege, Hull, Stoke etc. without van Persie we have no chance either way. Of course, we are likely to lose points to Chelsea or Liverpool, but that is a distinct possibility with Robin. And why don't they have all qualifying in the summer with a shortened Premier League (in terms of less breaks, and more week by week matches) because it would give them an extended run together and the Premier League clubs don't suffer.
Tom14
We would have needed to trust Eduardo sooner or later. The game away to Sunderland is a good opportunity to do so and the CL game against Liege one in which we should be able to field a strong enough side to get the result we need. It's as well the Chelsea game is at home and that they have their own injury worries. After that the only game we should feel the absence of RvP is away to Liverpool in mid December. By that time Bendtner will be back and barring other injuries we should still be strong enough to get some sort of result out of the game. There isn't a good time to have injuries but if RvP is back playing early in the new year then this isn't the worst. Later in the season would be potentially more costly. We should be able to cope.
Amos.
Ha ha ha. Don't worry though guys. Arsenal can cope with their key players out unlike Spurs remember! After you lot dismissed the importance of us having Defoe, Modric and Lennon out (all at once may I add) lets see how well you lot cope without Van ******. Bloody Love it!
MJBSpur
Im sure we will be fine, considering our replacement is slightly better than your first choice.
Tom14
If you say so Tom14 ;-) I hope your over confidence doesn't come back to haunt you!
MJBSpur
What has my words got to do with anything? Its just a silly thing people say, like "I was thinking about X and, you'll never guess what, I saw him at the bus stop - I think I am psychic"
Tom14
I like how all the oppo fans are here saying "now you know what it feels like to have a top player injured" ...... In the past few years we have had massive injury layoffs to Cesc, Clichy, Gallas, Eduardo, Rosicky, Walcott and van Persie. Anyone thinking we're going to fall to pieces because we're without RvP obviously hasn't watched much football in the last 5 years.
Rocky7
Our current injury list is Diaby, RvP, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Wilshere, Djourou, Fabianski, Clichy and Bendtner. The difference is MJB Spur, our bench is genuinely strong, not that our players/ manager ever mouth off about it.
Little Dutch
Rocky7, sorry I forgot about all the success you've had in the last 5 years. And Little Dutch, "the difference is" what? We've had key injuries ALL season and we're still only 3 pts behind you. The difference is ours are now coming back will you've just lost your best player. Only an arrogant Arse fan would be stupid enough to think thats not going to effect you. I mean ask a Liverpool fan and they finish above you almost every year.
MJBSpur
Liverpool have finished above us twice in Wenger's reign I think. And van persie is not our best player.
Tom14
But your captain was telling us all what wonderful players you have in reserve, are you calling him a liar? Arsenal have had an absolute cavalcade of injuries for the last four years, the difference is you never hear the manager use that as an excuse. Spurs fans are a confused lot, one minute you have a better squad than Arsenal, the next a three match ban for Defoe and an injury to Modric are responsible for your patchy form. Which is it? You either have a good squad or you don't. I actually do think RvP being out for a prolonged period is going to effect us, though not sufficiently enough for you to harbour ambitions of delaying St. Totteringham's Day before March. When we destroyed you 3-0 recently, we were without Rosicky, Nasri, Vela, Walcott, Denilson, Wilshere, Djourou, Fabianski and Bendtner went off after 20 minutes at 0-0. We got on with it and used some squad players, your captain boasted about the quality of your squad members and now you all complain that missing two players was the reason we absolutely whalloped you.
Little Dutch
Oh, and it's worth mentioning that Defoe's absence was due to suspension. If you don't want players missing through suspension, tell them not to stamp on people. We've yet to receive a suspension all season.
Little Dutch
now now ladies, put ur handbags down.... arsenal will be fine without van persie. as good as he is (in my opinion " one of the top 3 most technically gifted player in the prem") arsenal will still score goals and will still be able to pass the ball around the pitch fluently and with ease. u will prob see a three man attack of bendtner central, arshavin will move to the right and prob see nasri on the left. hardly a crisis but still a loss
pachna_spurs
LD and you waste your breath on complete bellends like this because? We all know that the injuries to Arsenal players over the last few years have vastly out numbered all but 1 or 2 other teams, in there have been leg breaks, ankle breaks, 2 broken backs and so on and so forth. The scum get 3 players out injured and all of a sudden their strong squad (thanks for the sound bite captain gypo) looks thinner than Kate Moss after a bulemia binge. Yet they are here crowing? The stupidety of your clubs square headed mongoloid captain is only matched by the mouth breathers that follow your club. Shame there aren't more like 123spurs around to redress that balance.
LondonGooner
Spot the gaff :D
Tom14
Gold star for you then Dutch, no suspensions! Lol Maybe you will finally win something this season - the fair play trophy. Its funny how hot under the collar your getting. I'm over that defeat mate and your blinkered perspective on it won't change the fact that I can't really get too annoyed about losing with the players we had out. And for the record it'd be nice if you lot stopped moaing on about what Keane did or didn't say cause it all got blown out of proportion. He didn't come out bragging we have a better side than you at all. When questioned he said the gap has closed - which is fair comment - and if you look at the players we have in reserve they are "possible" slightly better and definitely more experenced. What he didn't say was we have a better front 11 than you. I wouldn't expect you to have the intellegance to actually read a whole article and read between the lines though. you just stick with your tabloid headlines cause after all your obviously their demographic.
MJBSpur
But now you're wasting your breath LondonGooner. Quite a bit of aggression in that rant there. Whats funny is if you weren't worried about the situation there'd be no need to get so wound up. Its to easy to wind some of you lot up. ;-)
MJBSpur
MJBSpur, who said I was getting annoyed? That's a very transparent tactic to take the focus off the crux of the debate, which you have absolutely lost hands down. It's the sort of thing women always do in arguments, when they lose they try to focus on the manner of the contention and question the temper of the opposition, throwing in a few casual insults along the way designed to try and rile said person into an imagined state of frenzy. We've actually won the Fair Play trophy a few times on the last five years, only slightly less prestigious than the Carling Cup (both trophies get you into Europe and a nice little cheque and, errr, that's it). I'm not moaning about what Keane said (another of your poor aversion tactics), I absolutely loved it, particularly when 'Arry dragged his inept, malled headed arse off our turf after 60 minutes of mindlessly chasing around like a dog with two dicks and gave him a chance to sample that bench for himself. He said Spurs have better players in reserve than Arsenal. Aside from the fact that the Premiership table of the last 15 years and all of our league encounters for the last ten put a wee bit of a dampener on that theory, the fact is we had to rely on more of our squad players than you and we absolutely thrashed you. Again.
Little Dutch
"Don't even bother comparing the two, please, just don't. Arsenal have already ridiculed your baseless summer hype, don't add to it yourself. Tom14" - How exactly? By coming to our place and "accidentally" losing 4-2? If that's the way you ridicule us then please feel free to carry on. I suspect you will be just fine without RVP, although you may need to tighten up at the back a bit to make up for the extra "defending from the front" RVP does for you. Nobody likes to see good players out injured, it detracts from the spectacle of the game.
fifthcolumnblue
Little Dutch, what debate have I lost exactly?? The only debate on this column is regarding Van Persie's absence. I'm not debating who's better than who (arsenal are clearly 3pts better than us as things stand) I'm just enjoying the fact that you have one of your genuine key players out now. If anything its you who is deflecting from the worrying topic in hand by harping back to your hollow victory a few weeks ago.
MJBSpur
Usually you expect after losing to such grand opponents that their three point advantage would be reflected in the league table.
Tom14
So you thought you would come and ruffle a few feathers did you MJB? Im glad you are enjoying the fact Van Persie is out injured almost as much as i enjoy watching Harry twitch. Maybe you should come back when or if it affects us. Until then you are -3 points, -1 game, - 16 goal difference and celebrating the 10 year anniversary since you last beat us in the league.
paul_ownz
"I'm just enjoying the fact that you have one of your genuine key players out now." We lost Cesc for four months last season, Gallas and Clichy were injured in the run in as was our first choice goalkeeper. The season before, we lost van Persie, Rosicky and Eduardo in a fortnight period for the run in to the league title, in 2006-07 we lost Henry from February onwards, in the CL run in of 2005-06 we were playing our ninth different left back and lost our first choice centre half Sol Campbell, as well as the fact that we lost van Persie on February 1st that season and he didn't manage abother game. In 2004-05 we lost Gilberto for eight months. This is hardly the first time we've lost a key player, so there would have been plenty of enjoyment for you there over the last four years. Look at my first post, I said I think the loss of RvP will effect us just as the loss of Drogba, Rooney or Torres would effect their respective clubs. The difference is, minus RvP I very much doubt we'd lose 3-0 to Spurs and I very much doubt you would take it as much of an excuse from us for such a defeat- particularly if we labelled your victory "hollow." Your lot certainly didn't seem to mind when you beat us 5-1 and we left out our first team.
Little Dutch
But now you're wasting your breath LondonGooner. Quite a bit of aggression in that rant there. Whats funny is if you weren't worried about the situation there'd be no need to get so wound up. MJBSpur ---- How was I wasting my breathe when I was talking to a fellow Gooner, which is never a waste??? When I said to LD why bother that was in reference to him bothering to explain something to the likes of you. As I wasn't talking to you it was therefore no waste of breath. And you had the cheek to tell LD about his reading abilities, Id brush up on my own if I were you sunshine, otherwise you'll continue to look like the mong you appear to be.
LondonGooner
Little Dutch, I'm glad you mention the 5-1 as you note that I haven't for the simple fact that it was a hollow victory dispite the fact that Fabrigas, Adebyour, helb and Gallas (among others) all played a part. the only enjoyment I took from that game was putting a bit of prespective on these so called "wonder kids" of yours. Are you really going to list injuries to a Spurs fan!? We've been renowned for having the busiest Physio's for years. And no you're right, minus RVP you wouldn't have lost 3-0.....add Fabrigas and Arshavin to that list and then we might be talking. Thats what annoy's me about Arsenal fans, regardless of whether you think those 3 are better than the 3 we had out is irrelevant the simple fact is they are our 3 best and most dangerous players and to beat any side with their 3 best players out is a hollow victory by any means. Only an Arsenal fan would revel in "a 3-0 battering" of that nature. You beat us like that when both teams are at full strength and I'll hold my hands up but you and I both know that isn't going to happen.
MJBSpur
Christ, he still doesn't get it does he? Even a chimp can learn to make a cup of tea......can anyone else see the similarities in the learning curve? Take out RVP, Arshavin and Cesc and we would play Rosicky, Nasri and Eduardo/bendtner all 3 far, far superior to anything in your first team let alone reserves. There now, is that simple enough or should we do pictures for you as well?
LondonGooner
Lol LondonGooner "The stupidety of YOUR clubs square headed mongoloid captain is only matched by the mouth breathers that follow YOUR club." Sorry I didn't realise by "your club" you were talking to LD and referring to Arsenal. You've definitely out witted me there "mate". Oh and "mong"?? How old are you??
MJBSpur
Give over. Bendtner's ***** and wouldn't get anywhere near our front 11 and Rosicky's massively overrated and a lightweight even my arsenal mates admit that. Now you are showing how ignorant you are.
MJBSpur
Strange how you use the part of my post that suits you and not the context it was meant/written in, is that another sign of your fallability or just a typical Spu*s fan trying to make things look a positive as possiblem god knows you need it. Old enough to not try and goad people on another board (like a little kid no less) or pick holes in their arguments by making selections of a whole post. And referring to RVP as a "rapist" is a mature thing to do? I've seen that sort of filth eminate from your scabby little keyboard many times. A reassesment of this maturity lark would prbably not do you any favours. But if you consider your response as cretinous and base, i'll adopt your tone......Now do us all a favour and *u*k off back to what ever VD infected, little hole of an adopted crack whore mother you climbed out of, you instantly dislikable and smug (how can a spud be smug?) little scum bag. Savvy?
LondonGooner
Give over. Bendtner's ***** and wouldn't get anywhere near our front 11 and Rosicky's massively overrated and a lightweight even my arsenal mates admit that. Now you are showing how ignorant you are. MJBSpur ----- Which of your [players at Spurs got 125 goals in a season at teh age of 21 in CL, League and FA Cup? None me thinks. When Modric (gets back from injury, lighweight?) and achieves half of what Rosicky has (18 million transfer 50+ caps, trophies everywhere etc etc) then we can compare them both, until then Rosicky is by far the more experienced and better player.......your ignorance is astounding, even for a rose tinted scum fan.
LondonGooner
**125? lol That was 15 goals.
LondonGooner
Firstly you have never seen me refer to RVP as a rapist. I've only ever been on your forum once before so get your facts straight. Secondly Bendtners scoring record is not a patch on Defoe or Keanes so to say he's better than them is rubbish. And claimed that LD was wasting his breath on me but you couldn't resist chipping in and addressing me yourself (which your still wasting your time doing) so I think you'll find I was referening to the contradiction in your post. Anyway I got bored of this topic ages ago, its just been fun seeing how stupid you are not to realise that if you'd just ignored me I'd have had no way of continuing. Right i'll leave you to i now then.......bet you can't resist making one last comment ;-)
MJBSpur
Rosicky is better than Modric so is Nasri. Modric is a centre mid that is so weak you have had to shift him to left mid because he gets battered in the middle at premiership pace, Jenas and Huddlestone play in his proffered position?
iceman10
Riiiight, so fifteen years of finishing behind Arsenal and ten years of not beating us is down to Modric and Defoe being missing for one game? If you check Bendtner's goals to games ratio in internationals and the Champions League I think you'll find he positively *****es on Defoe and Keane- who couldn't hack it at Liverpool. I also recall Bendtner scoring a nice little goal against Spurs not too long ago. As I recall it, we'd just beckoned him off of our inferior bench to head in the winner.
Little Dutch
'I'm just enjoying the fact that you have one of your genuine key players out now.' Anybody else find it disturbing that someone is actually enjoying the fact that a player has hurt himself? For instance, I would say that I'm relieved Lampard probably won't be able to play against us, can't say I'm enjoying the fact that he's in pain, though.
TPowell
TPowell, did the quote that you inserted above say that I was enjoying the fact that RVP is in pain? Don't try and put a nasty twist to what I'm saying. I'll will enjoy him being out no more or less than if it were a suspension, him "being in pain" doesn't come into it. My only reason I posted on this thread today was because of the flippent and arrogant way your fans disregarded the importance of us missing Modric, Defoe and Lennon. I just look forward to seeing how it effects you now that RvP is out and will be looking out for the excusess if your form does start to dip in his absence.
MJBSpur
it certainly says that you are enjoying that he is out. you didn't provide much context beyond that.... why do you spuddies obsess on our club so much? how will rvp being injured effect your season in any way? you act as though we don't understand that having players out can effect the way you play. we dismiss your assertions that lennon, modric, and defoe are somehow good enough to have effect the game from a couple of weeks ago. It was even funnier because of how Keane bragged about your depth just prior to the match, and how you lot have routinely spent more than us on transfers only to never finish above us... I'll just go ahead and list all of the players that I can think of off the top of my head that have missed games in just this young season due to injury: Cesc, Clichy, Nasri, Rosicky, Theo, Bendtner, Eduardo, Denilson, Vela, Fabianski, Djourou, Diaby, Wilshire and of course Almunia's mystery stomach illness...
TPowell
You would think that since the spuddies follow our club so closely, they would know that for several seasons now we have been plagued with injuries more than any other top 4 club, and quite a few outside the top 4. RVP has failed to play a full season yet - his best season so far was the last one, with a total of 28 games. We have one of the most injury-ridden squads (consistently) in all of Europe.
jaelle
.." My only reason I posted on this thread today was because of the flippent and arrogant way your fans disregarded the importance of us missing Modric, Defoe and Lennon." Boo Hoo hoo! Sob! Sob!! Ok, MJB; do you feel better now that someone has acknowledged their importance? Now, go back to your boring life and quit stalking.
Naijagunner
hey tp half of those players you mentioned are squad players not first choice, same ol same ol with ye , kinda funny, thats like me saying we were missing bostock for 2 months, with all yer talk of talent an youth ye agian have nothing to show for
123spurs
MJB Spur thank god your here to provide some intelligent balanced comment. I can hear the famous French "why we didnt win anything this year" machine being started up, its spluttering into life lol!
Uskok
coming from the group that came on here and made every excuse as to why they lost to us 3-0... other than just admitting that we're clearly better
TPowell
Im glad you spuds are so focused on our team. Its more enjoyable/exciting for you guys to see us fail than see your own teams success, which i suppose is understandable when you have had none in over 10 years. You cream your pants when we draw a game even if on that same weekend you guys lose. One day maybe you will step out of our shadow, until then just hope we dont win anything.
paul_ownz
hey paul, thats ur clueless, brain in over drive again
123spurs
Comma in the wrong place 123spurs. But paul is right. You are far too obsessed with the hope that it might all go wrong for us only because you're conditioned to accept it'll all go wrong for you. [Edited by whynot]
Amos.
Until next year of course. Next year is Tottenham's year don't you know?
Little Dutch
No success in 10 years? When was the last time you were in a cup final or actually challenging for any title? You can scoff at the League Cup as much as you like but Beating Chelsea in the final is hardly mickey mouse and we only lost on pens to United last season. What success is this of yours thats so exciting? Think you boys are living in the past a bit cause your success has well and truely dried up.
MJBSpur
Beating Chelsea in the CC final was mickey mouse enough for your manager to be sacked because that's as much as he achieved. Let's see last time we were in a cup final would have been 2007 (it was only the kids mickey mouse CC though) the time before that was the CL 2006. Last time we were challenging for the title would have been the season before last - just 4 points off the title. There have been the odd SF's in there too. Success drying up is not even challenging for the title let alone winning it in virtually 50 years. In fact living off the rather, colourless, dry, faded black and white glories of the long distant past is all the spuds ever do.
Amos.
Sorry Amos which of those did you win again?? We're not living off any past glories or pretending we're title challengers, thats you. You've won ZIP, ZILCH, NADA for abour 5 years now. The fact that you just threw in SF's to bulk up your non achievements of late just about sums it up ;-)
MJBSpur
Amos!! Thats pretty wicked, why remind them of just how pathetic their existence is?
deledudu
When was the last time you were in a cup final or actually challenging for any title? 7 finals (4 FA, 1LC, 1Uefa, 1CL in the last 10 years, 3 in the last 5. Were top of the league until March 2007 and finished 4 points a drift. This compared to your 3 League cup finals in the last 10 years. Your last FA cup final was 18 years ago. Im sure you would of traded a CL semi final place for the league cup. Even you can see we put reserve team players out in the league cup, just look at the last game against Liverpool. Im sure you will remind me that Fabregas was forced on (through Denilsons injury) when we were 1-0 down and that Adebayor & Eduardo came on when we were 4-0 down somehow proving that we played a strong team. For the record from the starting line up only Hleb, Sagna & Gallas would of been first choice 11.
paul_ownz
You can wriggle and squirm as much as you like MJBSpud but it just makes you sound even more bitter at your years of unmitigated, humiliating mediocrity. The fact that you can claim failure on our part for not winning a trophy in four seasons from the perspective of a supporter of a club that has only won the CC in 20 years or so (and sacked both managers for doing so) is pathetic. Whats wrong with celebrating SF's in meaningful comeptitions? Being in the best 4 clubs in European footballs premier competition outranks winning the CC anytime - in fact simply qualifying for the CL outranks winning the CC - not that you have ever experienced that of course.
Amos.
I'm sorry Paul, you WON what in the last 5 years??
MJBSpur
Its not about scoffing at the league cup, its about you comparing our clubs success with your own when we generaly use the league cup for reserves, youth team & players coming back from injury. To give you an idea. The final in 2007 against Chelsea we played with Walcott & Aliadiere up front, a defensive line up including Traore, Hoyte & Senderos with other fringe players at the time Diaby & Denilson. Does this look like a team who were playing their best lineup to make sure they won the cup? Its like me going up to tiger woods and saying i have won more mini golf tournaments than you.
paul_ownz
In the last 5 years we have won 1 FA cup compared to your 1 League cup.
paul_ownz
Amos there's nothing Humiliating about supporting a good English club like Spurs. Granted we're striving for improvement but its slowly but surely on its way, no doubt you'll laugh that off but bar some blinding fortune only a couple of seasons back the tables might well have turned already. You've had your period of success and I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted. We'd be lying if we didn't admit we've been envious of your past successes but you've hardly produced anything for us to envy in years now.
MJBSpur
You got me there Paul. Make that 4 and a half years then ;-)
MJBSpur
the goal of your little club every year is to get a CL spot, we always qualify and typically make a run in that competition every year. hell you're not even in europe this year, surely you're envious of that
TPowell
haha, you ask paul to list what we've won in the past 5 years... turns out its more impressive than what you've won in the past 5 years! oh you spuddies are such a source of laughter@
TPowell
Why do you guys continue to validate a clearly deluded man? Its crystal clear to anyone but a deluded spud, that the Arsenal is way above their pathetic excuse for a club, and the only way they can find any kind of relevance is when they play up some imaginary rivalry with our club. I lived in Islington as a kid in the mid eighties, it was a time when the memory of their last glorious era had not completely faded, they were a crap club then, they are even more crap now. If the spuds were not in North London, their delusions would have seen them laughed all the way to the funny house by now, but their location, the need for the tabloids to sell their rags and the xenophobic bent of the English press has masked just how ludicrous their claims to some kind of parity with us are. MJBSpud, we are not in the same class, we can never be in the same class, we are everything you want to be, hope to be, dream you are, but can never be. We are the Gooners! For want of a better analogy, you are the girl next next door. The one to whom we "come" when we need to be sure we'll get laid on those nights when we've had a few to drink and needed to be sure we'll get laid, you can't get it any other way, but we can get you any time we want it. Now, be kind enough to bend over and remember to say thanks when we're done. We own your sorry arse!
deledudu
Slowly is the right word - 1961 when you last won the title wasn't it? What was the blinding fortune a couple of seasons - the Spuds *****ting themselves? Nothing was more certain. There's plenty to envy if you open your eyes but I can understand why you prefer to keep them firmly shut and just pray that someday, oneday, maybe next year, or the year after that, your time will come again. We have indeed had our periods of past successes - the only club wo win a trophy in each of the last 9 decades in fact. What a glorious past it has been and here we are 2nd in the PL still competing for trophies and equipped to do so for many more years to come.
Amos.
Just remember Pride always comes before the fall guys and arrogance is an ugly trait that you lot take to so effortlessly.
MJBSpur
and its not arrogant to claim you're a top 4 side every year despite the fact that you fail to do so every season?
TPowell
Damaged pride is something you should be all too familiar with MJBspud. All those idle pre-season boasts. All that money spunked on others cast offs. Arrogance is thinking you have any currency at all with which to come here and preach about trophy successes. It's a common enough trait of the perennially deluded Spud desperately trying to mask a massive inferiority complex.
Amos.
I think you'll find that its the press and pundits that big us up every season. I'd rather they didn't but there must be a reason for it. And who's preaching? It was one of you that claimed we are obsessed with your success every year and I was mearly pointing out how delusional you lot are to genuinely believe that you've had any of late.
MJBSpur
Squirming and wriggling again MJB. Only pundits and press -yeah right - we get a regular spud infestation here making all sorts of pretentious claims about your imminent return to glory. We even get treated to the odd Spud player telling us how much better the Spud squad is than ours. If you aren't obsessed with our success then why do you feel the need to come here and celebrate the injury to one of our players? If anything betrays your obsession, carried in that over sized chip on your shoulder, it is the fact that it matters to you whether we are in a position to succeed or not.
Amos.
no, I talk to plenty enough spuddies to know that its not just the "press and pundits" that talk up your club every year. it's actually cute that you try to deflect the blame of your arrogance away from your supporters, though
TPowell
The obsession is down to us achieving what they crave, 4th place or a carling cup? Only in Spud land do you ridicule what you cannot achieve.
iceman10
If someone was to offer me 3rd place or 5th place with an FA cup i would still take 3rd place. As much as i would like to win the FA cup and end our 4 years without a trophy, it would not be at the expense of the CL
paul_ownz
LD I dont admire Steven Ireland at all and its speaks volumes about your persona if you "admire" the man. "I admire him as being honest" what are you on about he lied said his Granny died to pull out of a game, then said it was his other Granny when he got caught. How is that not "Gutless". Its worse than pulling out with an "Injury" youre basically saying your family member is dead so you can get out of representing your country, something millions of kids can only dream of doing. And since the backlash back home and his embarrassment he basically cant be arsed with it. Why are you so against international football? Sure they should be less pointless international friendlies but competitons like the World Cup finals is the greatest sporting event of the planet, the whole world basically stops and watches. RvP getting injured was the inevitable, suprised he stayed fit as long as he has done this year. get over it.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Having an opinion about Stephen Irelands honesty in recently expressing his view of international football doesn't make you a hostage to every act or deed the man has done in the past. Its really quite silly to argue that it does let alone that it says anything at all about the persona of anyone taking that view. The World Cup, Euros and I dare say other regional jamborees are great days out for great and the good of FIFA, local association dignitaries and their coterie even if it is generally pretty crap football but the absurdity of enduring 3 international breaks in the domestic program in the first 3 months of the domestic season shouldn't be lost on anyone. It's pretty inevitable that every player, not just RvP, gets injured at some time but that's no reason not to express the futility of incurring such injuries in meaningless friendlies. What is there to get over other than yet another pointless partisan post cynically trying, and failing, to find fault with a reasonable opinion on a circumstance that affects the club?
Amos.
HY, you should perhaps get your facts straight first. Ireland lied about his Gran dying because his girlfriend had just had a miscarriage and he didn't want to put her in the public domain, so he lied to protect her and to grieve with his family. He could have handled that better, but losing a child at 21 is enough to make anyone take leave of their senses. Yes, I admire that he's honest that he doesn't feel to play for his country. It's 100 times more honest than the likes of Terry and Lampard who tell everyone what an honour it is but put in half arsed shifts and find convenient "injuries" when friendlies come around. I'd wager a lot of players feel like Ireland does but don't have the guts to admit it or to face the backlash. If you dream of playing for your country, fine, but why should Ireland live out your dreams for you? It's his career and his choice what he does with it, not yours or anyone else in the tiresome moral majority.
Little Dutch
LD you are a buffoon. Terry and Lampard find inconvenient injuries when friendlies come around? Your village is missing it's idiot I think.
Saf 91
Funny Saf 91, didn't see either of them on Saturday...............
Little Dutch
Do any of the gooners around here go on the Man Utd page to crow over one of their players getting injured? If so, they deserve all the abuse they get. I'll never unders tand the pathetic-loser mentality of someone who supports a team with so little success and yet is so eager to humiliate himself publicly by rushing on over to the blog of a club with far greater success and far more quality in terms of players and manager in order to crow about one of their players being injured. I for one would be embarrassed to show my obvious obsessive jealousy and desperation to see that team fail. Have some pride, spuds, and stop parading your obvious inferiority complex and petty jealousy. Your posts here show you're terrified to see us do so well (so far) in the league and the CL, you're just dying for us to c-r-a-p out so you can put a smile back on your faces - the performance of your own club is only secondary apparently. (I do not direct this to the few spuds who come on here with sensible contributions to this blog).
jaelle
BTW, MJBSpur, Liverpool have not won a trophy since 2006, what the hell does that prove? Big clubs go thru trophy droughts, get a clue. Look at Milan, Real Madrid. They've gone thru long trophy droughts. So what? That doesn't mean that Atletico Madrid or Sampdoria are about to storm thru their league and win lots of trophies for the next 10 years. Nor does it mean that RMadrid or Milan are in some sort of "permanent decline" as you so eagerly hope for for Arsenal. Ironically, what spuds like you don't understand is that Arsenal's achievement in staying in the top 4 during the transition to a new stadium is remarkable and very rare in football - in fact, it's a unique achievement. Clubs that build new stadiums historically go in decline, the costs are just too draining. So reaching a CL semifinal, a league cup final with kids and finishing 4 pts from the league leaders is pretty amazing. Which is why I can only look on in bemusement at your club's plans for a new stadium. I truly do not wish your club ill but when some of the more miserable species of spuds make me change my mind -- so I do smile (a nasty smile) at the thought of your club building a new stadium. The drain on your club of a new stadium will most definitely affect your team's performances, don't delude yourselves. That would be the case even if your club had a rational, sound, able, knowledgeable, world class business management staff like ours--which you certainly do not, you have a highly incompetent one. Liverpool find themselves in a real bind on this point -- they need a new stadium to increase revenues, but the drain of a new stadium will hurt their finances and football performances.
jaelle
CORRECTION: "I truly do not wish your club ill but when some of the more miserable species of spuds show their miserable colors, they make me change my mind -- so I do smile (a nasty smile) at the thought of your club building a new stadium."
jaelle
Its not fair guys, St. Totteringham day is not here yet, and you're already playing, whack a Spud! But I can't blame you all, its so easy to whack em init?
deledudu
Where was I hmm well I can see the violins are out there is a fair amount of whining going on and excuses being made .My feelings 4th could be beyond you, even with the serbian horse placenta being rubbed into von pssys ankle lol.
Uskok
I reckon if John Terry or Lampard did what Steven Ireland did you wouldnt find it half as ADMIRABLE. Would you??
HuddersfieldYiddo
You're right uscock. Plenty of whining and excuses being made and as usual all by the spuds. It's what spuds do. I agree with you I don't reckon we'll end up in 4th either - but we'll qualify for the CL and still be above your sorry lot. And HY do you find that others who have turned their back on international football like Shearer and Scholes are NOT admirable?
Amos.
I absolutely would HY, I always admire honesty and if those two were honest enough, fair play to them. I have no particular love of Stephen Ireland or Man City, but yes I admire that he had the courage to follow his own path and do what he felt was right in the face of a tiresome and salivating moral majority.
Little Dutch
Hey Uskok, that's pretty hilarious coming from a supporter of a club whose fans have a LONG LONG LONG history of making excuses and whining whenever you lose to us.
jaelle
They played over 50 caps played in world cups and never once came across as much as a tosser as Ireland has. They retired when they were getting old and focused on club football. Ireland is a 22year old spoilt multi millionaire who doesnt find representing his country something to be proud of. When you see all these Argentinians, Aussies, Ivorians etc travelling 10,000+ miles to represent their country, the pride involved etc it really puts it into contrast when Ireland cant even be bothered hopping over the Irish sea and is content with his 50,000 a week. He was also very dismissive and disresptful of teams like Sunderland and Fulham when linked to them + to Trappetoni for reasons i cannot understand. I think he wanted to be begged to come back. Just read some his interviews and see for yourself how much of a little**** he is. I guess by not being in the "salivating moral majority" LD he must fit somewhere in the "unsalivating immoral minority" perched next to Adebayor and Bellamy. What a dressing room that must be. By gosh i hope Ireland qualify for the world cup i really do. Even if i knew for 1 single moment he regrets being such a little brat when he see's Ireland playing on the biggest stage of all it would make me so happy.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Why would he regret it? Ireland have no chance at all of winning the world cup even if they did qualify. It's a fools errand in terms of footballing glory. Scholes was 29 when he quit (as was Shearer) and would have been in the squad for the 2006 WC. He was asked several times afterwards to come back and declined to serve his nation. Henry is still playing at 32. National pride only went as far as it suited them. Quite right too - it's jingoistic, flag waving cobblers.
Amos.
Patriotism often brings out ugly traits in people. I repeat my question, you think serving your country at football is an honour. Stephen Ireland doesn't. What business is that of yours? Why should Ireland live out your frustrated dreams? Why should he pretend he dreams the same things you do? I think if you're honest with yourself, you know full well a great many players feel the same as him but don't have the courage to admit it or the shoulders to take the flack. He does and I congratulate him for that. There's a great line in To Kill A Mocking Bird, "A person's conscience is the only thing that won't abide by majority rule." Never a truer word spoken.
Little Dutch
HY, you remain one, if not the only Spud that one may reasonably expect sensible banter from, but you are so wrong about the foreign players who travel so far to represent their countries. They do so mostly to satisfy the Work Permit requirements of the UK government. Most of the Nigerian players cannot be bothered to turn up if they don't have to(not that I blame them) but its not borne out of any altruistic motive, its about self interest.
deledudu
as much as van persie is a key player. we have plenty of other up and coming people that can fill his place for the time being
leeimp95
Well i guess if Gregory Peck says so.......i did that at GCSE English back in the day, Film!!! Anyways It doesnt matter now Ireland were cheated by an Arsenal connection. How predictable. My dreams of playing for Ireland in the world cup will now never be realised by anyone.
HuddersfieldYiddo
I for one loved the fact that RVP is out, Bendtner is a waste of space ... don t worry Iam sure Wenger will be down the wick with his packet of penny sweets getting some more kids in .... how long are you lot going to give the pathetic kids comment. Harp on as much as you like about SF's and runners up ... Modric would get in any top team .... typical arsenal supporters arrogant ****s
E17YID
Modric who cant play in his favoured position because Jenas and Huddlestone play there? Jog on Brian Harvey.
iceman10
Hey Huddersfield Yiddo - take a chill pill will you? You are embarrasing yourself. For your information, Ireland was attacked by Stephen Hunt (cockerney ryhming slang?) and Damien Duff. They held him down during a traqining session and tore off the wig he was wearing to hide his premature baldness. Now that must be pretty embarrasing for a young lad don't you think? Duff later apologised for the incident, but Hunt never did. Steven Ireland got no support from Trappatoni or the Irish set up who refused to make Hunt apologise or be dropped, so I can fully understand why Stevie is a bit less than impressed with the whole international set up. So why don't you try and find out a few facts before you go spouting crap everywhere? I'm sure everyone, especially the Arsenal fans would be most grateful. I know I would.
fifthcolumnblue
amos 6th is probably likely for the french perfume factory, dont forget to say hello as we go past you, one player down and the wheels fall off rather easily I detect panic in the gooner ranks. Spurs have been battling with our whole strike force out not just one Von Poofsy and were still right up there.
Uskok
amos 6th is probably likely for the french perfume factory, dont forget to say hello as we go past you, one player down and the wheels fall off rather easily I detect panic in the gooner ranks. Spurs have been battling with our whole strike force out not just one Von Poofsy and were still right up there.
Uskok
That's nothing we haven't heard oh so many, many, many times before uscock. You're one of that group of spuds that sees themselves something like the scruffy vagrant shuffling around town wearing a sandwich board predicting that the end of the world is nigh - believing that one day your prediction just has to come true - doesn't it???
Amos.
Amos that was your father it was 2007 outside Highbury Tube Station and the sandwich board said "Wenger declares League within his grasp !"
Uskok
Any spurs sandwich board would read 4th place within reach because your tiny clubs success is our minimum requirement. Whole Strike force out? Keane, Pub-leychenko and the freak all played against us plus a16 million pound right winger (cheers for our cut in the Bentley deal).
iceman10
That's really feeble uscock even for you. As it happens though any such board in the 2nd half of 2007 would have been true! A spud one would have been more along the lines of "We can avoid relegation"
Amos.
amos I know deep down you realise that the arse need to win something it really is long overdue.
Uskok
Yeah, it's almost like we've been waiting since 1961.
Little Dutch
Yes it would be nice for us to win the title at WHL for a third time! Only the surreal mind of a deluded spud could be more concerned with whether we can win it than they can - though I guess they accept that it is completely beyond them and has been for such a long, long, long time now.
Amos.
You arsenal fans really are dumb, your not going to win title, you need a reality check, Spurs a small club, you must be on drugs. shouldnt u lot of built your scum in SE London your real home? T**ts It is a minimum requirement 4th for you because you cannot afford to drop out because of your debts.
E17YID
And 4th is your unachievable holy grail, hence, you are a small club in comparison to us.
Little Dutch
We have already won the title - 13 times in all so far - including twice at WHL. What really rankles amongst you losers is that you have no hope of matching either feat - and why North London needs us to bring some pride to the area. As for debts ours is reducing while yours has trebled in the last year. You are putting yourselves into hock just trying to stay in touch with those in mid-table.
Amos.
I guess you've got to be a masochist to be a Spud, but these bunch are making it an art form!
deledudu
Hey uskok, do you post as much on the VitalSpurs forum as you do here?
jaelle
Why should he? We are the reason for his existence!
deledudu
I think von persies loss will hurt you alot it will kill your momentum at a crucial time thats all for now trendsetters.
Uskok
We had some unbelieveable behaviour recently from your fans disgusting on our forum just doing my bit doing what I can.
Uskok
If it was unbelievable why should we believe you? So your sole purpose for coming here and making a total prat of yourself is because some anonymous people annoyed you on your forum? You are a bit of a juvenile pillock aren't you! It's up to whoever controls your forum to keep order there.
Amos.
trebled our debts? man can I have some of the happy pills you are on, we are not in debt we posted a profit again this season, we do not have to rely on Champs league to manage our debts we are a very well run club. harp on as much as u like about 13 titles u aint won jack in last 5 seasons regardless of silver NOTHING!!! and u wont be this season either, fingers crossed the brum will do a couple more of your players this season like they dod to ur eddy ....
E17YID
E17YID - it's been 4 trophyless seasons, not 5. Learn to count. Fascinating how the spuds pay such close attention to the amount of seasons we've gone without a trophy while ignoring how many seasons they've won exactly what? Oh yeah, the mickey mouse cup.
jaelle
Economics not your strong point Mr Harvey. I thought Brian Harvey was well acquainted with the happy pills? Has it been 47 or 48 seasons since Spurs won the league? I lost count. Still, how do you plan to celebrate the Golden Jubilee?
Little Dutch
Leicester are as successful as you since you last won a decent trophy you toby. Talking about 4 years of non success that at your s*@tty little club would have been the most successful period since the 60's. You have NEVER finished above 5th in the premiership and have spent more money on achieving that dismal record than any other club. You havent beaten your fiercest Rivals for TEN years, no pride lane, embarrassment to London when the world saw you s*@t yourselves at west ham.
iceman10
So easily deluded E17YID. Take a look at the accounts posted on the spuds web site. It's all there. Get someone to read it to you if you need to. Revenue down, cash in hand down by almost half, debts trebled. You relied entirely on selling players to avoid a significant loss in the last financial year.
Amos.
HAHA omg you are complete crap with Van p out so ******** funny sunderland dominated you and Daren B arsed one in !!
Uskok
Hows the Placenta treatement going on?
JT_daniel
Hows the Placenta treatement going on?
JT_daniel
watch the news tonite you miserable arse holes and weep.
Uskok
 

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