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Nasri: We Must Beat Spurs

G'day Gooners, it's been a long quiet week since the painful exit of the Champions League, though as always, we've been able to count on Spurs to cheer us up.

The timely (and not forgetting comical) demise of Tottenham's FA Cup campaign links directly to the upcoming North London derby.

Spurs had to battle for 120 minutes and a shoddy Wembley playing surface against a Pompey side who played with more spirit and determination than I've ever seen in a football team. Of course the fact that they lost the match only added to their woes, along with the loss of Wilson Palacios through suspension.

Despite all that, Arsenal's Samir Nasri is still approaching the game with caution, claiming that to win the league, we must beat Spurs.

'Spurs have surprised me because from the start of the season they have been there fighting for a Champions League position,' Nasri said.

'This makes it harder for us. We can still win the league, but for that to happen we have to beat Spurs.'

You can always tell players who are still relatively new to English football, because it's never surprising to see Tottenham challenging for honours, it comes as even less of a shock to see the completely balls things up when they get within touching distance.

Jokes aside, NLD's can never be taken lightly, the form book goes out the window and caution is the order of the day. We may be unbeaten in PL matches with Spurs since the early 1900's, but it's inevitable the day will come that they do actually beat us, whether it be via a touch of luck of by them deserving it, it doesn't matter.

So whilst we all know that we WILL lose to Tottenham one day, let's be on our game and make sure that when that day does finally arrive, it won't have any impact on our season.

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Writer: Rocky7

Date:Monday April 12 2010

Time: 12:27PM

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What a difference a day makes, before yesterday I was apprehensive about Wednesday, no Cesc no Gallas no Arshavin no RVP, sp*rs would be on a high after strolling through to a cup final, it looked pretty daunting. Now today it's definitely advantage us, the lasagne dodgers were punished over 120 minutes, must be utterly demoralised after wimping out against a relegated club in tatters off the pitch. They'll come steaming out of the traps like the keystone flops as per usual but will probably flag after 55 mins or so. Would love us to celebrate st totteringhams at theirs whilst nailing their over fanciful CL aspirations.

nikolaijns

Nasri will be the lynchpin for us anyhow so it's crucial he plays well as he's pretty much our sole creative outlet in the middle, with Palacios out, Diaby should have a pretty good game as hundredstone is far too obese to catch him.

nikolaijns

A 14-0 win would take us top!

Sir Henry

With Kaboul and Livermore in centre midfield, 14-0 is suprisingly possible

HuddersfieldYiddo

14-0? Ye of little faith... XD

Tom14

I'm getting the feeling a lot of Gooners have fallen into the trap of looking at Sunday's game and thinking we've got this in the bag. Firstly, this is the one game Spurs will not needing any geeing up for regardless of the weekend. Secondly, we have problems of our own, Chelsea, United and Liverpool all dropped points immediately following their Champions League exits, don't underestimate the mental dip we will experience. Thirdly, Spurs are a side in the upper reaches of the league, on their own ground and we're going there minus Fabregas, Arshavin, van Persie, Gallas and possibly Song. Our big target should be to not be behind going into the last half an hour, where doubt could then creep into Spurs' mind and fatigue will play a part too. If we go behind at any point, any advantage garnered from Spurs' weekend expedition is totally wiped out. The players really need to be serious about that. Plus, they're going to do it one day aren't they? Probably on an occasion when they don't deserve it.

Little Dutch

Good grief, LD. Get out off the wrong side of the bed did you?! LOL! Here are the reasons I am so positive about Wednesday. 1) While our injury-list made last Tuesday's result against the DEFENDING European and World Club Champions a cast-iron certainty before a ball was even kicked, the softness of that exit contrasts sharply with spuds' totally unexpected knocking out by a newly relegated, very broke Pompey. They've got to be hurting more. 2) Our match will have been 8 days previous, while they've had to run for 120 mins on the warmest day of the year, on the worst pitch in the western world :) a mere 3 days previous. They've got to be sapped mentally and physically in a way that will come into effect by the second half on Wednesday, no matter how willing the spirit. 3) The full weight of their historical inferiority to Arsenal is a burden they have to carry. While we should never be complacent, it helps our team to know they have history on their side. 4) Last but not least, our squad is better than theirs ALL DAY LONG. We still have a major trophy to play for here and the motivation of the NLD is the perfect tonic to banish any lingering dark clouds from last week. As if the title isn't bait enough, there is also St. Totteringham's Day and the kick in the teeth to any silly champions league pretensions. Need I go on? Team talk? This game doesn't need a team talk.

julieloveshenry4ever

Im with Tim on this .. take Sp*rs lightly at our own peril. They will be up for this one.. And we have our C team on. We can still beat them but it needs 90 minutes of total commitment. No slips from Clichy and no sending offs from Eboue... We need everyone at the top of their game.

Sajit

They're still going to come roaring out of the traps, mark my words. If we go behind, then all the energy sapping and de-motivational consequences of Sunday go out of the window. How often do you see us battering a team, only to see us concede a soft goal and all of a sudden the opposition aren't so easily cut through? Derbies can be incredibly illogical games and I'd wager that if Spurs could have chosen a game to follow that disappointment, it would have been this one- the sole game of their season that requires no motivation. Chelsea were also bossed by a superior Inter side and were well beaten but it proved no consolation when they limped to a draw at Ewood. I don't think St. Totteringham's day makes a blind bit of difference to the players- I'm certain they don't know what it is and I'm sure none of them even realise that a win would yield it. Make no mistake, this will be tight, nervy and uncomfortable, anyone expecting different will feel the nerves and discomfort 100 times more come 8pm on Wednesday.

Little Dutch

Palacios is key to them in midfield - which btw makes me wonder, likewise, if Song's fit enough to play..? If Kranjcar and Corluka are both injured, they have problems going forward too. We need our front 6 (which are pretty much automatic picks - Bendtner, Nasri, Theo, Diaby, Rosicky and Denilson) to try and score early and they'll crack. Or as LD said, at least keep ourselves on level terms and we do our usual late goals stuff when they're bound to tire.

GoonerLou

I'm not sure Theo is an automatic start Lou, it could be that Eboue starts on the right wing to add a bit of defensive balance especially since the spuds main threat nowadays is Bale.Bale also knows Theo well from their time at Southampton, so it could be he knows a little bit extra in how to nullify his threat. The same could though be said about Walcott knowing how to beat Bale! But as LD said they could tire late on if they're not ahead, so bringing on Walcott would hopefully take advantage of that.

Gun 'Em Down

Walcott should be nowhere near this game.

Tom14

I thought Palacios was out?

Gooner_Vin

Rubbish Tom, shouldn't start for sure but he'll have a big impact if brought on for the last 30 minutes. If he can do it against Barca 1st leg he can do the biz there. Bale can know everything still don't mean he'll get anywhere near him.

nikolaijns

Both Bendtner and Theos' strongest assets are that of impact sub, it's unfortunate we have to start with Nik as he isn't quite at that level to perform to a certain standard over 90 mins but we have noone else aside from a badly out of form Eduardo. Walcott often gets lost in games he starts in too, both him and bendy are at a similiar developmental stage in my view.

nikolaijns

I'd certainly start Eboue and then throw Theo on for the last 20. I'm also hearing on the grapevine Lady Bracewell Smith is selling her shares. Coincidence that it would be juuuust beofre Kroenke reaches the threshold? Time will tell.

Little Dutch

I have often held that view Niko, but I honestly think Bendtner has come on a lot more than Theo this year- particualrly since he came back from injury.I think his ability to perform over 90 minutes is much better, Theo still looks like little more than an impact player to me- albeit a very good one.

Little Dutch

Nik edges him no doubt LD, but Walcott has been out for consistently longer over time so theres no excuse for Bendtner not to have superceded him developmentally and the type of player Bendtner is means it's easier for him to pick up where he left off whereas Theos notably and steadily picking his game up, but due to his style and speed just needed a longer period to get everything else like decision making and instinctual movement back.

nikolaijns

Yeah I was actually thinking 'Theo/Eboue' sort of sharing the RW role. Vin, I meant Palacios was import for them and his absence is good for us. Nik is good enough to start, well, who else have we got anyway? He's defo ahead of Theo in terms of development cos, I think, his character is part of the reason.

GoonerLou

Anyone who watched the game yesterday and the one against Sunderland cannot really take us seriously. The last time we "came roaring out of the traps" was a couple of seasons ago after the lasagne! Should be an interesting test of character....can we find one and if so is yours good enough. Maybe if we play like Portsmouth?

Harry-Kari

The fact 13 points Pompey beat 58 point Spuds tells you everything you need to know about football. Yes its was funny as f*'k and all that but 90 mins 11 vs 11 anything can happen.

iceman10

I've been waiting for that once-in-a-decade time when we lose a league game to Spuds for 2 or 3 years now, but it just never seems to come. Nerve-wracking as this might be, I cannot see us losing this game. This season we got stretched many times by lowlier sides but have generally prevailed against them, and I can't see the Spuds getting more than a draw, especially after their feeble attempts at our place. Arsene Arses 2 Twitchers Tits 1.

Andy-bayor

BBC Sport understands that RvP is going to be back for the game! And SkySports understands that Bracewell-Smith is indeed about to sell her shares. So therefore I understand that we will definitely whup Spurs and will be buying Kaka and Messi next season.

Gooner_Vin

I can't see RVP starting either really, last 15 maybe if we need him, nows just not a time for a player needing match fitness to start. Both teams are wounded beasts at present, sp*rs with the rawer wounds. Again like with Barca I feel zilcho nerves, I think that my expectation we'd get past Barca was so low the cause of my emotional detachment, and that my feeling we'll stay the course in this chase is similiarly pretty non existant, hence the mehness, although obviously defeat to them is an ever present spectre - I do think it won't be this season.

nikolaijns

Should have explained I meant from the start.

Tom14

Not really what 'nowhere near the game' implies though eh?, unless they've relocated our bench to walthamstow (which you wouldn't put past em)

nikolaijns

You will have a large number of supporters in Manchester for this one!

fifthcolumnblue

Suspect we'll have a fair bit of support in North London on Saturday as well :-)

fifthcolumnblue

Agree with LD, no way can we be complacent about this. Their loss in the FA cup against a poor Pompey team (despite them being the far better, dominant side) may well just motivate them even MORE than they normally are against us. And this season Spurs have done far better than I ever expected, they're seriously in the running for a CL spot. I'd be more confident if we had Cesc and Gallas. Just glad to hear that Palacios is out. Krancjar is injured. We could very well draw this game which would certainly help Chelsea. I was amazed that Fat Sam didn't bend over to his master on Saturday. Just shows that we're going to have a very tough time when we go there.

All these reports about the financial moves in the Boardroom are making me nervous. Anyone here notice Terry's horrible challenge on Milner in their FA cup game? Coward Webb continues his run of complete incompetence. And he's considered England's best referee. Terry should've been sent off, his tackle was just like Shawcross': totally out of control, studs up. And what about that blatant dive in the 92nd minute by Saint Scholes at Ewood in a desperate attempt to get a goal? Couldn't believe the commentators -- they refused to even use the word "dive" against Saint Scholes, that perfect English football gentleman.

jaelle

"Suspect we'll have a fair bit of support in North London on Saturday as well :-)" - fifthcolumn, you certainly will, please do kill your salford neighbors, just don't come to our ground in the same form please!

jaelle

Cheers jaelle - we'll certainly do our best to ensure the Arsenal finish above the rags this season, the title is up to you though!

fifthcolumnblue

I hope you beat scraggy chops and finish above United and Chelsea. Good luck against Yids.

SFC Forever

I am not sure our lads need any geeing up for this game, either and the all the talk from the players do not suggest complacency, rather they should serve to put them in the right frame of mind. On another day, on this season's form, Spurs are good enough to take points off us; but, not after we have had 8 days rest and they just went through a gruelling 120 minutes with Pompey, clearly with the NLD playing on their minds. Certainly not if they will be without Palacios, even though we are short as well. They do have dangerous players in their forward line, though, including Defoe, Crouch and even Eidur Gudjohnsen,(who understands these derby day highs). Our defensive set up just has to be right and I expect us to stuff them come Wednesday. We have far greater incentive to do so and shall win. Eboue to start with Theo coming in at the latter stages.

Naijagunner

I have to say i am absolutely thrilled to see so much over- confidence from some of the contributors to this forum. Same old tired, worn out jokes that were comical when you actually had some trophies yourself to gloat about. It also flies in the face of all the recent evidence. Naijagunner sums up the glib air of complacency by acknowledging we are dangerous and then simply dismisses us in the same breath!! We had a right royal cock up of a day at Wembley, but that won't count for ***** when we meet at the lane of dreams. This is gonna be a war, and it'll be no place for small children with brittle legs. You, Professor Nimblefingerz, and the rest of the Woolwich gang had better come well armed.

Tony Rocky Horror

"it'll be no place for small children with brittle legs" So how will lennon, modric, and defoe be allowed on the pitch?

TPowell

TRH,....We are shivering.

Naijagunner

Ouch, that was a cringing post from TRH. Oh well. I am certainly more confident than I was a couple of days ago, but we still have hurdles to overcome in this game. First, the likes of Campbell will have to shut out all the abuse the sp*rs fans will give him, because he's got a tough job on his hands in containing Crouch, who has an irritatingly good record against us, and Defoe's pace. Den will have to keep up his good form to stop the supply to him, esp from Modric, as will Clichy vs Lennon. Finally we just have to block out the noise from the spuds and play our own game, with confidence. If we can manage that much the rest will come, although we may have to be patient.

ArsenalRob

Apparently TRH doesn't want us to hope our club does well, how counter-productive of a supporter would you have to be to do that? No complacency here, just supporters supporting.

TPowell

Actually Rob, it was a stupid post, written by a frustrated, intelligent man, who looks around at the plain idiocy of the world and thinks 'if you can't beat em, you may aswell join em'.

Tony Rocky Horror

the lane of dreams....dreams of winning something, keep dreaming and enjoy 5th place

lukychmz

You don't even sound like you believe yourself. Of course you have forward men that pose a threat but I recall they were available against Pompey and in October, at the Emirates, when we stuffed you (2 goals in 11 seconds, remember) 3-0. So, as usual, you will flatter to decieve then collapse after the 1st goal. Loser.

Naijagunner

Yeah whatever, lukesmelz.

Tony Rocky Horror

TRH think you really need to re read the thread again, there's no over confidence or gloating, although having dragged yourself from the pit of despair over at VS I would imagine it's all springtime and fluffy bunnies here by comparison. As for tired, worn out old jokes theres only been one of those in the last couple of days and if you want blame to apportion for that here aint the place. Still fair play you obviously can't keep a delusional braggadacio blowhard down for long.

nikolaijns

So, as usual, you will flatter to decieve then collapse after the 1st goal..........like you, you mean, every single fecking season i watch you, you F.U.C.K up at the last hurdle. First it was Drogba, then it was Ronaldo, now it's Messi.....when are you gonna to get tidy? I'm starting to get the impression you ain't got what it takes.

Tony Rocky Horror

Or a supercillious tart who gives himself just enough time to sober up before breaking cover.

Tony Rocky Horror

Jesus, if we 'ain't got what it takes,' I'd sure hate to find out what you think your club has got, because you have yet again failed to finish above us. Instead of analysing the Arsenal, perhaps you should enlighten us with your views of your own little club and their own inability to get over any hurdle.

TPowell

Sorry to break it to you Tony but you don't have a Drogba, Ronaldo or Messi. All of those three can and have destroyed teams single handedly on their day. You have Dwarfoe and the freak. The footballing equivalent of watching Deuce Bigalow.

nikolaijns

Also Tone big words kinda lose their impact if you spell 'em wrong. Without wanting to be too supercilious Maybe stick to a maximum of 3 syllable words before reaching for the stars eh? ;)

nikolaijns

So i spelt it wrong. Big fecking deal! You got the idea. You fecking loved it too.

Tony Rocky Horror

Not sure you needed the upper -casing on the 'maybe'. Do try to get it correct old boy.

Tony Rocky Horror

1 or 2 syllable based sentences even better, I think we've found your level - bravo!

nikolaijns

But to return to footballing matters: i'd sooner have Defoe and Crouch than an incompetent Dane with gold boots and an Adebayor- sized bruise on his forehead, a daft little runt from Southhampton who runs in all directions except where the ball happens to be, and a one- legged Croat who has nightmarish flashbacks about St Andrews stadium!!!

Tony Rocky Horror

Sorry, could you repeat that? I couldn't make it out through the phlegm.

Tony Rocky Horror

My god niko, this has been a cake-walk. Are you the best they've got on the late shift? Of dear....

Tony Rocky Horror

Whatever you tranny freak, bet you wish you could do the timewarp back to '61 to witness what you've previously ever known in black and white. Lane of dreams what a joke, what a nerve calling it that when we've won the league there more times than you!!

nikolaijns

OH dear...it's late! You grinning tart.

Tony Rocky Horror

of dear indeed! c'mon get those stumpy tranny fingers hitting the right keys Tony.

nikolaijns

Get yourself a coffee and wake yourself up dear. You're slipping faster than Dawson.

nikolaijns

I was waiting for some prize pillock like you to think my name was a reference to the Rocky Horror Picture Show!!!

Tony Rocky Horror

You still here Tony? Thought you'd drifted off into a world of Tim Curry in fishnets, a world free of white hart pain. Where men can cross dress without recrimination.

nikolaijns

Tell me about it. It must be a real pleasure to break up the boredom of endless visits to VA by spending some quality time at ***** my gay arse through the gloryhole.com. Tell me monsieur, how do you find it?

Tony Rocky Horror

How do I find what? Your gay arse? Not my bag really Timewarp. Wish you the best of luck with your site though. If this conversation is anything to go by I'm sure you take it like a real pro :)

nikolaijns

Look, this has got to stop because it's wrong. Let's be friends.

Tony Rocky Horror

You're going to thumb your nose and waggle your fingers at me when I offer my hand of friendship aren't you :)

nikolaijns

Not at all.

Tony Rocky Horror

Ah feck it, **offers handshake** laters mate, sweet dreams.

nikolaijns

Good lad..we should do this again Mr Edmund Spenser.

Tony Rocky Horror

#offers handshake and friendly grin#

Tony Rocky Horror

Shame about the injurys on both sides really, we are both ravaged with key players out and its really fking up our repective seasons. Where would you be if RVP, Ramsey, Gallas and Cesc were fit all season? Top id guess. Where would we be if Lennon, Modric, King and Woodgate didnt decide to have a combined 14months off. This game is big as it is, it could & should have been HUGE.

HuddersfieldYiddo

Fair play HY. The game should be good - there are so many battles that are going to played out in the larger 'war'. Long balls to Crouch which Campbell/ Vermaelen will have to encounter, playing a high line in defence while handling the risk of a speedy Defoe and Nasri having to get away from the constant physical attention of Huddlestone who will have to play the Palacios role in his absence. Sp*ds will have to face our fresher legs and the risk of a midfield adept at weaving webs around your CM's even without Cesc. Cant wait for it.

Deltaforce

Big Sol to score, go "shush" and make all the spuds fans foam at the mouth. It's written in the stars ;)

julieloveshenry4ever

" the lane of dreams....dreams of winning something, keep dreaming and enjoy 5th place lukychmz" - Aren'tt you being a bit optimistic about spuds chances there Lucky? LOL

fifthcolumnblue

RvP confirmed as in the squad tomorrow. What has to happen for our medical department to learn? Decapitation? Drowning? Lost for words, the manager acknoweldges it's a gamble- one he took with Fabregas, Gallas and Arshavin recently, how did they go again?

Little Dutch

Big Sol to score, go "shush", before adjusting his colostomy bag, losing Defoe for Spurs winner, and then scarpering off to have a nervous breakdown, more like, like the dirty sewer dweller that he is. There's nothing mystical about that, just the most likely outcome. LONG LIVE THE KING!!

Tony Rocky Horror

I feel apprehensive about it too LD, give our record on these matters. I'm tempted to say that every player is different and that I'd feel nervous about him coming back for any game, so why doubt this particular choice, but surely it would be better to wait to play Wigan, when the game intensity would drop a bit. I don't mind though, hopefully his presence on the bench will inspire the team to get enough control on the game to make his presence on the pitch less of a requirement.

ArsenalRob

Totally agree with you Rob. The tackling during the ferocity of a derby game, might just be a little too much for Sir Robin. Much better to have the rest of the week training hard, and starting against Wigan. After 5 months out, what's another 5 days ?

Cockney Rich

Sol to win title at White hart lane and walk of the pitch with dignity only coming back to celebrate with the gooners in the champions section when the inbreds have fled. Stuff of dreams enit?

iceman10

He can't win the title at the lane though, can he? So what the feck are the blathering about?

Tony Rocky Horror

Sorry arrys Wembley horror show, my bad I wrote that in april 2004.

iceman10

On yer bike icepop. Or preferably take a plane, unlike yer non-flying, Spurs supporting, Dutch idol.

Tony Rocky Horror

Shock horror, spud fan in knowledge fail. Shame Dennis never supported spurs enit...he admired the way glenda played but thats about it. Sol was a spud fan though not that it feckin matters.

iceman10

More one observes TRH, more one is convinced that he is an avatar of the hideous spud fan 'Bergkamp is a myth' who used to disgrace these threads not too long ago!

Deltaforce

He loved Spurs and the mercurial Hoddle as did all the most graceful and gifted players of their generation. That's because they knew that Tottenham Hotspur played the game the right way. Incidently, i do think there was a meeting of the minds somewhere along the line between Hoddle and professor Nimblefingerz. Infact, you could argue that Arsenal's recent history of flowing football actually originated at the lane of dreams! And, indeed, it did!!!

Tony Rocky Horror

Now isn't that the most fantastic post you've ever read.... what a load of b*llokcs.

ArsenalRob

yeah, course it was ArsenalrobbedSpurs.

Tony Rocky Horror

What have we robbed you of Tony? Apart from the crown of North London, the fanbase of North London, post war promotion, your all too willing Captain, the fact that it's now us that plays the beautiful game whilst you hoof it up to 3 metre peter and the fact we've won more league titles at your ground than your own club has? Apart from that what have Arsenal ever taken from sp*rs?

nikolaijns

Anyway professor Nimblefingerz v inmate Lightfingerz bring it on!

nikolaijns

Come on niko!! Reaching for the easy Campbell, eh? You can do a lot better than that! How long ago was that!! I seem to recall cuddling a cabbage patch at the time. Noone gives two hoots about Comedy Campbell at the Lane of Dreams anymore. It passed over years ago, like a Nayim lob sailing over a fat ponytailed W.A.N.K.E.R.S head.

Tony Rocky Horror

Course they don't Tony, I'm sure he'll be cheered to the rusty old rafters in 25 hrs and 20 mins. Sol was one point out of 6 mentioned, methinks it was conversely the easiest for you do deal with. If noone at the lane of nightmares cares for comedy It's a crying shame given the wealth of comedy gold that emanates from it. I tell you one thing that has passed over years ago, that was your one concrete chance of champions league football, it passed over like a fiercely flung pair of cack filled grundies in the West Ham away dressing room.

nikolaijns

No, you're right Niko, i should have more respect for the man given he'll be carrying around a packet of his own excrement as he frantically attempts to clear his lines. I bet Gary Lewin didn't enjoy attaching that to his saggy thigh. However: I am more than a little concerned about your revisionist perspective on history. I do wonder at what you're telling these kids as you shovel prawn sandwiches down their innocent gullets at the Woolwich international crisp bowl.

Tony Rocky Horror

Hopefully TRH isn't the same age as griddles. The image of a 40 year old cuddling a miniature Heather from Eastenders is enough to have this article frozen.

iceman10

Not sure where Wembley Horror show is going with all this Campbell crap seen as he is in better physical condition than Dead-knees King.

iceman10

Yeah, right you are Sodapopsfor10p. I'm probably no older than you. Just a lot more intelligent.

Tony Rocky Horror

So intelligent you didn't know Gary Lewin left our club well over a year ago. Toodle pip.

iceman10

Probably why your players can't fart without getting injured. Toodle bye.

Tony Rocky Horror

In Campbell's case it gives a whole new spin on the notion of a'soft tissue injury', hey niko?

Tony Rocky Horror

A 'soft tissue injury'? Was that when Big fat Muttley Jol threw a roll of andrex and it knocked out ladyboy Jenas? That was when sp*rs staged a dirty protest on the last day of the 06 season if I'm not mistaken. I'm still in stitches at Wembley horror show heh heh it really was eh Tony? Laters.

nikolaijns

Who could have known a normal conversation would turn so scatological Mr ijns?

Tony Rocky Horror

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