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Tottenham Hotspur 2 Arsenal 1

As many of you will have ascertained from the tone of my posts before the game, I never believed we were going to win this one. The Indian summer of North London derbies without league defeat had to end sooner or later. Harry "taxes for" Redknapp commented in the build up to the game that if Spurs could choose one game to follow a gut wrenching, lactic acid producing semi final defeat, it would be Arsenal at home. For perhaps the only time in recorded history, I believed what came out of his twitchy little mouth. This is the one match where Tottenham don`t need motivating or picking up off the floor and the one match where their supporters weren`t going to look on in moon faced resignation after Sunday`s defeat. After a quick loosener in O`Neil`s pub on Euston Road with Terry and Shaun, I made my way to Seven Sisters alone, far too tetchy and nervous to provide decent conversation. As I sat inside the ground after the long walk down Seven Sisters Road, arriving in my seat just after 7pm, I began to mentally prepare myself for defeat. I`m glad I did because I think it somewhat helped with my mood this morning. As the teams were announced, it became apparent Spurs were lining up with Defoe and Pavlyuchenko upfront with Modric playing in central midfield. It seemed Spurs had finally got over their inferiority complex and had set up on the counter attack, hoping to expose the apparent lack of pace in our centre halves. Spurs were finally prepared to play the game as underdogs.

Arsenal were buoyed by the return of van Persie, whose arrival for the warm up was met with an enthusiastic choir. Predictably, so was Sol Campbell`s, as both sides of the North London divide let him know their feelings- as if he needed telling. With both sides being in a situation of win or bust, it was no surprise the game got off to a swift start. Arsenal won a corner in the second minute, Campbell attacked the ball hungrily and it trickled goalwards off his thigh, but Benoit Assou Ekotto was on hand to clear it off the line. Arsenal had started brightly, but Spurs were happy to cede possession and hit Arsenal with a devastating counter attack on nine minutes, Danny Rose found Younes Kaboul in space on the right, his cut back found Pavlyuchenko ten yards out but his finish was thwarted with a brilliant diving block by Vermaelen. From the resulting corner, Arsenal`s positive start was wiped out with a bolt from the blue. Bale swung in a right wing corner, Almunia punched clear of the area only to see Danny Rose meet the ball with a sumptuous first time volley which flew into the net. I know most Gooners will blame Almunia for the goal (most Gooners would blame Almunia for the British weather), but the punch cleared the area and I think sometimes you have to except the exceptional nature of the strike. It`s fallen perfectly for Rose out of serendipity and his technique and the strike were unstoppable. It was one of those strikes you see once a season (remember Adebayor`s similar effort at the same end in 2007). Gomes too punched every cross that came his way, but none of his palmed clearances fell exactly onto an Arsenal player`s foot.

Arsenal did not have time to contemplate their wounds and reacted instantly. Sagna`s right wing cross found Bendtner grappling with Dawson in the box, but Dawson did just enough to put the Dane off who headed wide. Bendtner also scooped the ball wide inside the area from Nasri`s through ball. But Arsenal`s oldest and dearest foe was in attendance again soon after. Our rivalry with Spurs is long standing but injury is the real rivalry that has threatened any sort of Arsenal supremacy. Thomas Vermaelen booted the ball out of play and had to disappear straight down the tunnel. Quite literally, the entire spine of the Arsenal team was unavailable. Gallas, Vermaelen, Song, Fabregas and Arshavin, van Persie only fit enough for the bench after five months out. If Chelsea were to travel to White Hart Lane on Saturday without Terry, Carvalho, Essien, Lampard, Anelka and Drogba, would your appreciation of their chances of victory alter? Arsenal continued to press with possession, but Tottenham were content to bring numbers back to the edge of their box and look dangerous on the counter attack. There wasn`t much to choose between the teams, but if I could elucidate one key difference it would be in central midfield. Luka Modric, a slight flair player, pressed and hounded on the edge of his own box and outmuscled Abou Diaby on countless occasions. Diaby wandered through the match with the air of a cat pawing through its litter tray. At times it seemed Sol Campbell`s will power alone could carry Arsenal through, it was his nod down from Nasri`s corner which seemed to be destined to go out of play that found Rosicky, but his close range shot was blocked by King.

But still Spurs looked menacing on the counter, Modric bundled his way through a Clichy challenge on the edge of the area, but Almunia was out smartly to foil him, Campbell completed the clearance. Half time of what was a breathless contest and a moment of brilliance separated the sides. Tottenham wheeled David Ginola onto the pitch at half time, and he was beautifully serenaded with a chorus of "You`re just a shit Robert Pires" which was probably a back handed compliment in any case. The Gunners needed a quick response but some very poor defending put a fading title chance truly into touch for another season. Defoe was allowed time and space on the left by Denilson and Eboue to turn and pick out a simple pass which saw Clichy stand statue in response to a run from Gareth Bale, Sagna hung back in the defensive line playing Bale onside, whilst Silvestre lacked any sort of awareness to cover his full back. The ball trickled through to Bale untroubled and he slotted past Almunia from close range. We had well and truly shot ourselves in the foot. Spurs fans will see Bale`s goal as a vindication of his performances of late, which have looked impressive from afar.

Arsenal`s response was to toss Theo Walcott into the fray, and the Spurs fans greeted him with a tuneful rendition of "You`re just a shit Aaron Lennon." Harsh. Arsenal sought to get Walcott involved where possible and it was his slide rule pass that gave Bendtner a sight of goal from a narrow angle, he smashed it narrowly wide. These were the chances we would have to take to take anything from the game. Arsene got that message and sent for van Persie. The Dutchman`s arrival instantly imbued us with more purpose and direction in the final third; I was utterly astounded at how sharp he looked 9though he did quite understandably wince in a 50-50 in central midfield). It was his movement across the front line that and willingness to pull defenders out of position which gave us greater purpose.

That said, Tottenham`s own substitute might have added gloss to the score line. Walcott completely neglected his defensive duties as Bale and Assou Ekotto combined on the left, Assou Ekotto cut the ball back to Gudjohnsen, only for the Icelander to scuff the ball wide. The Gunners were beginning to turn the screw, even though a draw was not much good to us, this team simply don`t do lying down and accepting defeat. Diaby`s sole meaningful contribution of the game (for Arsenal anyway) saw him clip a pass into the penalty area, van Persie produced trademark chest trap and volley but Gomes thrust out his right paw with a stunning instinctive stop. Van Persie was again a crucial link in the chain when he set up Rosicky for a shot from the edge of the area which deflected narrowly wide. The Dutchman brought purpose and vigour upfront and when he earned a free kick on the edge of the box you realised he brought us a set piece threat too. And his consequent free kick was blasted straight at the top corner, an almost inch perfect strike only for Gomes to somehow get across in time to tip it away from the top corner. It`s hard to believe van Persie could have placed it any better, a truly unbelievable stop.

From the resulting corner, Campbell rose like a salmon, his whole being personifying steel and desire, to climb above Dawson and power a header goalwards, but Gomes again seemed to almost reach backwards into his goal to scoop the ball onto the underside of the bar and out. Sometimes it`s just not your night. But Arsenal were able to set the cat amongst the pigeons for the final five minutes. Van Persie found Walcott on the right and his precision low cross yielded an easy tap in for Nicklas Bendtner. Game on. Van Persie proved the inspiration again as the away side pushed for an equaliser, he cut in from the right and spanked a right foot shot towards goal which Gomes was equal to, Walcott seared in for the rebound but was blocked by Dawson. The linesman somehow called it as a goal kick. Like I said, sometimes it`s not your night. Arsenal`s last chance of pressure in the 93rd minute was squandered when Silvestre fluffed the simplest three yard pass you have ever seen under no pressure. Spurs won the ball back and Arsenal never had it in their possession again.

The final whistle saw a swift dash to the exit, your best way of getting away from White Hart Lane in one piece as an Arsenal fan is if the locals are still inside celebrating their cup final. As it turned out, it was one of the most hassle free exits onto the Seven Sister`s Road have ever experienced. But then I am used to running that gauntlet with the hosts burning with anger. This time they were too happy to goad us too aggressively. It was always going to happen one day and we will lose to Spurs again, in a way it`s a monkey off the back. As Rocky mentioned last night, the fact that we have maintained such an unbeaten league run against them has left me predicting defeats in this fixture for at least four years now. In the end, there was not an awful lot to choose between the teams, both showed great commitment, great desire and played in the correct spirit, the referee had a good game and it`s hard to find grounds for complaint. I felt we were worth a draw but there have been plenty of times over the last ten years when Spurs have left these games empty handed having deserved more. Ultimately, we had the entire spine of our team missing which didn`t help, but credit to Spurs, they had players missing too and for the first time in living memory, they accepted they couldn`t match us and played cleverly on the counter attack instead, which worked for them. They made the key moments of the game go their way with a couple of well taken goals and a handful of world class saves. Ultimately, the difference was the second goal, Arsenal made the sort of defensive lapse Spurs did not replicate. So ends our title hopes, but it was a dim and distant dream in any case. We will be in the title shake up again next year, that you can be sure of.LD.

1.ALMUNIA©, 3.SAGNA (14.Walcott `56), 31.CAMPBELL, 5.VERMAELEN (18.Silvestre `21), 22.CLICHY, 15.DENILSON (11.v.Persie `65), 2.DIABY, 8.NASRI, 27.EBOUE, 7.ROSICKY, 52.BENDTNER. Unused: 9.Eduardo, 21.Fabianski, 32.Merida, 37.Eastmond.




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The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday April 15 2010

Time: 11:36AM

Your Comments

The NLD is alive and well! After years of Gooners thinking they are too big for the NLD, it pleases me that such a crucial one (for both sides) has given cause for you to eat your words, and as stated in the article, the next four years may hold more of the same. COYS
Arsson Finga
Indeed LD. There have been defensive lapses, inexperience and misfortune this campaign but also some great moments, steel and grit. We have challenged for the title but it has finally fallen apart a month early. Improvement can be expected from the squad year on year and it will hopefully be supplemented by quality players from AW. Onwards and upwards.
Deltaforce
Yet another year potless.
Wswilly3
Nice write up Tim, though I wish you didn't make me relive it so vividly. I was impressed with Spurs last night, and you won't catch me sayng that too often. The cloggers and sh** kickers of this league should take notice of that performance, they defended herocially and played on the counter attack, and they did so without having to kick 7 balls of sh** out of us. You can play well defensively and do so with agression without having to snap legs. We're always hearing phrases like "true English grit" when looking at *****y performances from the likes of Stoke and Blackburn and such, yet I'd say what I saw from Spurs last night was the closest thing to that mythical grit as you're going to get. That's not to take anything away from our boys, I thought we played really well (With the acception of one or two), just Spurs defended throughout their team better than we attacked .... fair play to em.
Rocky7
AF, your over confidence may come back to bite you. Dont be deluded unlike so many of your fellow fans who have been more grounded and have understood last nights game better.
Deltaforce
Willy, what have Citeh won this season...or last season...or the last decade?
Deltaforce
Decade Delta? you're being a bit kind there....
iceman10
I read an excellent article the other day that looked at Barca and said that hard tackling is so outdated it's untrue. You tend to get a lot further by pressing and harrying your opponents without needing to lunge into "rustic" tackles. That's what Spurs did last night, when you press and harry you shouldn't even need to make tackles because you can hound a side into losing possession even more effectively. England's inability to let this philosophy go hinders them greatly.
Little Dutch
Wow, was going to come in and gloat over the gooners, however, a well written and balanced article/comments would make that ungracious. Really good game. COYS!
Clarkyboy420
Nice match report LD. Injuries have been our biggest enemy this season and I believe will continue to be the injury to TV was not a fluke, you can't play every single EPL match at the highest intensity without getting a muscular problem that will keep you out for a few weeks. We have been extremely unlucky with Gibbs, RVP and Ramsey (Djorou?). But we the smaller injuries have been due to the amount of high intensity games we play. I'm starting to think we should treat the FA cup like the Carling Cup. It may have been past the watershed but the "***** Aaron Lennon" chant was very loud and audible on Skysports. I'll take Theo any day of the week and I'm happy the england boss shares the point of view.
gronedrone
LD, what are you talking about! That would mean that managers like Pulis and Allardyce are outdated in their thinking but that cant be true can it?
Deltaforce
Dust cloud closes uk airports! Officials blame the cleaner of the emirates trophy cabinet!
MullerTheYid
You do realise that they don't issue disposable trophies when you win them don't you? We get to keep the stuff we win. There might not be ay new silverware in there, but it's still pretty full. lol :)
Rocky7
Muller, knocking back a few Carlings today are you!? The only trophy and beer you love.
Deltaforce
A spurs fan here.....Tim Stillman ....Great report..... And Gunners, don't drop your heads just now..... We will try to do you favour by beating ManU, Chavs....you return it by beating *****ty....
mangesh49
Unlucky boys good game, 2 good teams playing football like it should be played. Pains me 2 say this but Ca****LL was exceptional COYS
spurspanther
Sounds like a good deal mangesh.
Deltaforce
Fair game to TH. Won with a bit of luck, but a win never the less.
I feel Arsenal missed Song in this game and TV being injured didnt help matters.
Omogusii
I was really impressed with both teams yesterday. Neither team played the Chelsea way but both gave their all. Well done to both teams and both sets of fans. To hear rivals talking about each other in that way is refreshing.
SFC Forever
I was really impressed with both teams yesterday. Neither team played the Chelsea way but both gave their all. Well done to both teams and both sets of fans. To hear rivals talking about each other in that way is refreshing.
SFC Forever
Delta, you sure? Deluded? As some of your fellow fans have said, we have left several recent NLD's empty handed when we deserved something, now we have finally taken the points from the fixture at a time when we have improved massively. Perhaps the result was down to your complacency then? Either way, it is time for those who have dismissed the NLD as an event to realise that we are competitive again and you would do well to take it as seriously as we do. Talking about understanding the game... leave me out mate, if you understood it as well as your condescending tone suggests, you'd be playing or coaching on a training ground right now and not posting comments on the net like me
Arsson Finga
Good write up,gotta give kudos to you guys for being very gracious in defeat,maybe one of you could give lessons to your manager!;-)
CoxintheBox
A good write up. The truth is that the NLD is an institution that we all cherish, and it's generally a good thing for all that your period of dominance, if not superiority, is over. I don't believe that you're relieved though_smacks of desperation to me. That wasn't just any old derby you just lost. And to admit that that you went to WHL preparing yourself for defeat!!! We were preparing for victory, and i warned you about that with my tongue in cheek post last week. Pretty much says it all about how you really feel about your team.
Tony Rocky Horror
gronedrome would take Walcott over lennon_HE, HE, HE!!!
Tony Rocky Horror
If you Gooners really want success you should sack Wenger this summer and go get your-self’s Mourinho who desperately wants away from Inter and Italian football. He would certainly turn your pretty passing football into silverware!!! Of course I would hate to see it actually happen. To see the Gooners turn all that pretty football into a winning formula! I don’t think I have to worry too much though. Arsene aint going nowhere!!! Thank God… 2-1 to the Tottenham!!!
geoff stern
Correction - It was Diaby who won the foul for the RVP freekick after some nimble footwork. But Abou had a disappointing night all round.
gronedrone
The reason I was prepared for defeat, as explained, is not because I believe Spurs are a match for our team in general. It was more the "sun shines on a dog's arse once a day2 maxim, it hadn't happened in so long that it was bound to sooner or later. If we played Yeovil Town twice a season for 11 years we'd lose to them at some point. With the players we had missing I felt this was your time. Bear in mind that you guys came to the Emirates without Defoe, Modric and Lennon and fell apart and your lot were on here saying that that was the only reason we beat you resoundingly. We went to your ground without Gallas, Song, Fabregas and Arshavin, Vermaelen and van Persie couldn't complete more than twenty minutes. If it was ever gonna happen it was gonna be last night. But do I fear Spurs taking us over? Not unless Spurs are up there challenging for the title next year, which they won't be. We will be.
Little Dutch
The difference between Walcott and Lennon would be that Walcott has performed on the big stage, making goals in CL away ties at Anfield, San Siro and the Nou Camp as well as scoring a hat trick in Croatia for England. Until Lennon even plays that calibre of opposition, let alone excels against them, there's no comparison and I'd wager Capello agrees.
Little Dutch
Tony Rocky, well said! I got a veiled insult for a similar comment, but then I should have expected it on here with all the spoiled fans who think they have a devine right to beat us!!! I think it's my name that gets 'em. :P
Arsson Finga
It's true that you were affected by injuries, and in many ways that gets essentially to the heart of your problem: it explains why the trophy cabinet has run bare for you. You would have won that game comfortably if you'd had VP and Fabregas, but without either there just isn't the quality availible in your squad to play the flowing football Wenger educates his teams to play(at least to any great effect) You played directly into Harry's hands, by trying to pass it through us.
Tony Rocky Horror
All you gooners go on about luck for tottenham hotspur but at the end of the day we won....... What av you won lately.... ***** all....
WellsyhotspurNK
I think I can confidently say that Walcott has already played more CL than Lennon will ever play in his carreer.
gronedrone
Yeah, Mr Groan, but let's face it: after four years at least lennon has actually worked out which direction he's supposed to run in!! Last night summed up the comparison perfectly_Aaron won hands down, and he wasn't even on the pitch!! We only sang what you were thinking!! Lennon is a dead cert shoe-in on the right side for England in the world cup. Walcott will be taken as an impact sub because he's got ***** all positional sense. I'll wager Capello thinks that too.
Tony Rocky Horror
oops *divine*
Arsson Finga
Walcott set up our goal- as he has done at the Lane before(Baptista twice). Lennon's efforts against Arsenal? Totally ineffective- as he is against United et al. Besides which, Twitchy's knackered his chances of going to the WC anyway because he wouldn't let him have groin surgery in December, so it's all a moot point. What I do know, is that Capello has never selected Lennon ahead of Walcott when both are fit. Not even once.
Little Dutch
Are you really suggesting Lennon is further ahead in the pecking order than Theo? If you are... I guess it shouldn't surprise me, as I recall some spuds comparing Lennon to Arshavin (I rofl'd hard when I saw that). You're gonna be in for a big surprise Tony when you see the England line-up in the world-cup.
gronedrone
He scored the winner against Chelsea (twice) and stuffed one of the most humiliating goals in your history past your shower at crisp bowl in the 4-4, so that part of your argument stands up about as effectively as Pat Rice's toupee in a strong north northwesterly. Don't even get me started on his phenomenal number of assists: the fact that you can actually remember two of Walcott's sums up the point perfectly. Lennon and Walcott, as direct contemporaries, symbolise the state of our respective clubs succinctly. We're thrilled with Lennon, you're tired and frustrated with Walcott's failure and inconsistency.
Tony Rocky Horror
I repeat Tony "Are you really suggesting Lennon is further ahead in the pecking order than Theo?" ,or should I take your dodging of the question as a solid NO?
gronedrone
Mr Groan, can i refer you back to my earlier statement about the relative status of the two in relation to England. Besides, who are anyway, David Dimbleby?
Tony Rocky Horror
Very funny! But your reluctance too repeat it, proves my point. Tss... David Dimbleby, hehe.
gronedrone
AF, lets have this discussion next year and see which team does how well in the league. Cant you understand that you haven't finished 4th yet. Till you get a CL spot, you will attract players like Kranjcar and Palacios who are good but not top of the line. There is a gulf in class between our sides simply because we as a club and our manager attract more skilful players to our club. Am sorry if that is harsh.
Deltaforce
My favourite song of the night was "Your just a **** Aaron Lennon " in the direction of Walnutt. So true aswell, hes awful! Apologys for the racism KB71
HuddersfieldYiddo
Lennon registered four assists last season and the only assist he has ever registered against Arsenal was in a Leeds shirt. He has less assists and goals than Walcott at international level and, needless to say, at Champions League level. Walcott has also found the net twice against Chelsea. Not bad considering he's two years younger than Lennon to boot.
Little Dutch
And i suppose all those players last night Deltaforce were top of the line were they? Id rate Song, Vermalen, Sagna, Almunia, Bendtner, Eduardo, Walcott, Eboue as good but not top of the line also.
HuddersfieldYiddo
dear gunners, pls leave the FOOLS to their ignorance
shady gunna
if wallcott was so good why doesnt he start ever game, an to say hes better then lennon is clearly have the blinkers on, lennon all day long
123spurs
@ HY, in that case, at least our 'just good players' are far better than ur 'just good' players then. league table doesnt lie, u imp
shady gunna
The only thing in Walcotts armour thats better than Lennon LD is that hes had more experience playing in the CL and in bigger games. And i'd admit that is important, its what make players like Darren Fletcher a top player etc. On occasions he does something great (Abit like Danny Rose did last night, expect to see him onloan at Reading next season) and makes you think wow. But apart from blistering pace i just cant see a footballer there. If Aaron Lennon was on your books, Walcott would be on loan at Wigan. Lennon has been blistering this season, look up those stats if you want. He's the only player i think ive ever seen tear Evra a new asshole every time they meet, Ashley Cole too. Workrate, Control, Skill, Consistency, ability- There's simply no contest. If he's so good why is Eboue - a rightback playing instead of him?
HuddersfieldYiddo
123spurs, because the truth is we have better players than Walcott at the moment, you don't have any players better than Lennon. But Lennon can't say he is better than Walcott until he has produced at the level Walcott has. It's a bit like Berbatov, he looked out of this world in your team. Now he's at United, he looks like a flop.
Little Dutch
Sorry Little Dutch but you're wobbling around here looking for an angle: looking for stats and other data to support your flaky argument which essentially flies in the face of reason and the qualitative evidence of everyone (the pundits, the fans, the jounos, eyes) I don't blame you though: you took a pasting last night on so many levels, you're probably looking for 'postitives' I'd just go with it if i were you. Otherwise you'll end up looking like a bloke standing in the street trying to take on a Challenger tank with a water pistol.
Tony Rocky Horror
Say what you like TRH, but what I say stands up, Walcott has produced at the highest level and Lennon hasn't. Recent Spurs history is littered with players that you guys thought were world beaters- Keane, Carrick, Berbatov. But when they went to clubs that played at the highest level of the game regularly they've all flattered to deceive. Lennon I think is similar, if you were constructing a "Non Big 4" starting eleven, he'd be in there. But until he produces at the highest level of the game as Walcott has, comparing them will be a fool's errand because Lennon isn't even considered good enough to compete at the level Walcott is asked to.
Little Dutch
"you took a pasting last night on so many levels" Delusion at its best. you won 2-1, well played but Cock on ball syndrome seems to be kicking in, have a glass of water and count to 10.
iceman10
TRH: "you took a pasting last night on so many levels" -- EXCUSE ME????????? On which planet do you live??? A "pasting"? You're suggesting you "thrashed" us???? Have you seen the game stats, little boy? It's comments like yours that make you spurs fans such objects of mirth around here! You're in perpetual delusion! You beat Arsenal by a MASSIVE MASSIVE score of 2-1 in a game in which Arsenal dominated possession and had more shots on goal and you call that a "pasting"??? LOL!!
jaelle
HY, we have vastly different views and they are best left not debated I guess. Song is in my view better than Palacious - your best DM and Vermaelen is in my view better than all your CB's. Sagna in my view is in the top 3 right backs in the league and better than Corluka. Also about last night, please dont tell me you cant see that you played like the away side more than the home side last night. You got a one in a million goal. Then soaked up pressure and hit us on the break. You won and all fair and square but lets not forget that when we had our full first team available earlier this season we gave you a 3-0 spanking. Guess you must have erased that particular memory from your head by now.
Deltaforce
HE, HE, HE, i'm am loving this, so much!!!
Tony Rocky Horror
Lol @Iceman 10.
Deltaforce
The Walcott v. Lennon argument is incredibly silly, the spuds always seem obsessed to compare the two. I actually like Lennon and I still have doubts about Theo but one is younger than the other, Theo's performed on the big stage several times and scored decisive goals or made decisive assists (tho not consistently) while Lennon hasn't done any of that. But frankly I really couldn't give a **** for any such comparisons because Theo's just too damned young to make any definitive claims about him. I'll get back to you when he's 25. All I've been feeling since last night's game is anger at the pathetic, gutless display by the passengers we had on the pitch yesterday, players that AW believes in so much, players who apparently don't give a damn what a NLD means, who show little interest in defending our traditions and history -- playing alongside a lion like Sol who at 35 has more heart and determination and courage and fight in his little finger than the rest will ever have in their entire careers. Injuries are irrelevant. We had 8 days to rest, Spurs came off a shorter break after an exhausting game on a horrible pitch and a devastating loss. Our players should hand their heads in shame.
jaelle
looks like thing are going back to normal..
Daz Hotspurs
And I don't buy any injury excuses. I wasn't surprised by the result, I had a strong feeling about last night's game. Our record at WHL in the last 9 games before last night hasn't been great -- only 2 wins. A loss had to come eventually. What upset me was the way some of our players approached the game. Arseblogger got it right in his blog today. Oh, and well done to spurs, they played well, defended far better than we did. What a strike from this kid Rose! And Gomes has had a great season. Glad to see another Brazilian keeper do well.
jaelle
"looks like thing are going back to normal." - true, daz, a spud shows the classic spud-like penchant for delusion. It had to come eventually.
jaelle
Good points jaelle, but why do you have to shout so loud? It drowns out the sound of Wenger softly weeping.
Tony Rocky Horror
TRH, do you think Harry will pay taxes on the bonus Levy will pay him for finishing 5th?
Deltaforce
Dont worry TRH. Apparently court fees and advocate fee is tax deductable. Dont think he'll pay any taxes.
Deltaforce
Delta Goodreem, it gives me the greatest pleasure to know that from Bombay to Bournemouth, and indeed across the globe from pillar to post, grisley gooners are taking the most dreadful ribbings from their glorious Spurs counterparts. So clasp at a straw if you will, but remember that, in the end, you'll be just another crumpled body on the battlefield: and i'm the captain leading the cavalry.
Tony Rocky Horror
It's the same old scenario, if we don't win it's always because we're gutless or outfought or some other such simple explanation. Usually they're tosh, as they are in this case. There's a decent discussion on the forum at the moment in which we have established that Spurs only made one more tackle than Arsenal did last night despite the fact our possession was in the 60s percentage wise, Arsenal blocked one more shot than Spurs- considering we had more shots and more corners that's not bad either. Of course these stats are effectively meaningless in the face of the scoreline, but they do go some way to disproving this notion that "we lacked passion and fight" that gets trotted out every time we lose. Sometimes the other side is more efficient than you, sometimes the key moments of the game go to them. Both happened last night and Spurs deserved their win as a result, but we have played a lot worse this season and won. In the end, we didn't have enough of our key players who can make a difference against packed defences in the final third. But you have to lose eventually in football, it's statistically impossible not to. When you do, it's not always because you lack "passion" or "fight". We just didn't have the guile to break them down till van Pizzle came on. C'est la vie, it happens, you move on.
Little Dutch
Just cant understand how spurs fans take such great pride in last nights win....head to head we are up 2-0, we did better in the premier league, better in the champions league, all spurs did was get further in the FA cup than us...however ill state again, so happy to see van pizzle back
bootoo
Little Dutch, Harry rolled up to training this week and said: "right lads, it's the arse tommorow, pack the defence, close down the space, and we'll hit them on the break_simple as that!! He admitted it on 5 live!! We did what United did, Chelsea did etc. I can't be bothered to go and on and on about this, but the fact is your manager has educated your team to play one way, and if that way fails, as it tends to against the better teams, you fail. That's where you need to start any reasonable discussion on the matter.
Tony Rocky Horror
Deltaforce: We played like Aston villa does every week. Counter-attack. I am not proud of it, but if we do it once or twice a year against you, and get a result out of it, it won't bother me :) Btw, ManUtd has relied much more on counterattacking this year than previous seasons as well....
NorwaySpurs
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The real Bolloxology
Yes, LD, of course it was time for them to win after such a long record against us. But I maintain some of our players were just not there. And it seems Arsene agrees, if you noticed his comments comparing Sol's commitment to that of the rest of his players. Very rare of him to imply such criticism of his players.
jaelle
does anybody know where i can get tickets for your end of season party tomorrow. hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The real Bolloxology
LD - Lennon has performed at the highest level of the game (though not like Walcott has - i hope). He has creamed Evra in a cup final, murdered Clichy and destroyed many an experienced LB. He has scored important goals against the likes of Chelsea and yourselves and has been probably Englands best player in his last few games. He slaughtered Croatia at Wembley. I'm not bothered really, you underestimate Lennon if you wish. You also dsaid earlier that Capello prefers Walcott to Lennon - that is patently incorrect. If Walnut goes to the WC it will be a) because Lennon is not fit or b) as 4th striker.
Darbinho
Arsene's own words: "Sol was one of our better players. He has shown the way to some players. What a winner he is. He showed what you need if you want to win titles. He deserves a lot of credit because he turned up with a real performance."
jaelle
TRH as captain of the cavalry. What a glorious image. Which windmills will you be charging at this time?
Deltaforce
Norwayspurs, yes you played a bit like Villa and thats fair enough. As I said earlier, you won fair and square last night but narrowly. Some of your spurs mates think that you gave us a pasting! A pasting in which Gomes was your star man. The only pasting I remember was when you came to the grove earlier this season!
Deltaforce
I think you both make fair points LD and Jaelle. It's not that the team was gutless but you could detect that Spurs were up for it that fraction bit more. Then again, it's easier to do that when you're playing a spoiling, counter-attacking game. Our game relies more on controlled posession and pass and move. Too many key first teamers missing, end of.
Gooner_Vin
I think its time for Fabregas to come to Man City to win some trophies
Wswilly3
well if wallcott cant get ahead of eboue in starting line up that says it all, better players then him ?, i wonder wud ye ever get wenger lazer surgery as glasses seem to miss important incidents, the way ye played obviously didnt work where was yer plan B ye only looked good when rvp came on, no point in complaing say we say out to defened an couter attact just casue ye could not break us down, delta stop blaming yer injuries list its lame excuse, ur like broken record
123spurs
123, which interpreter do you use to communicate with the world?
Deltaforce
good question, delta, I can't ever read his posts.
jaelle
By 'pasting' i wasn't talking about the game play, i was actually implying that you were outfought, outthought, outjibed and indeed, in the broader context of the importance of the game, totally and comprehensibly humiliated. Which you were.
Tony Rocky Horror
So how would you describe the 3-0 down at our place then TRH?
iceman10
van persie was good but you have to realise spurs played 120 mins on sunday and he only came on in the last 20 mins when spurs had very little left in the tank. actually arsenal only had there chances when spurs players were dead on there feet. can we do it again against cheski . yes we can, you know we can.
The real Bolloxology
i forgot to say ha ha
The real Bolloxology
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Little Dutch
I'm laughing over here at a spud who thinks THAT was a "humiliation"! The 5-1 in the CC, ok, I can see that. But last night? LOL! ONLY a spud could call that a "humiliation" -- how long have you been watching football, TRH.
jaelle
OMG, the very next DAY they come out with a dvd! You can't make it up!
jaelle
I think you were the best team yesterday. However, the Spurs were very lucky.
chelsey
TRH, you're not wrong in a sense, Chelsea and United have beaten us that way in exactly the way you describe and that is an issue we must address in the summer. But most team can't do it against us and I doubt you'd have been able to either had we had some more players. Villa, Everton and Liverpool are teams of a comparable standard to you and both tried to set up that way against us when we went to their places. Everton got tonked 6-1 and Villa got a 0-0. I don't want to use injuries as an excuse because I know you guys had your own (though you folded at our place without Lennon and Modric)and we knew what we had before the game and we have to live with that. But it's easier to contain an Arsenal team shorn of its best attacking players, it's best midfielders and it's first choice centre half pairing. But yes you got your tactics spot on, if Spurs had tried that a few years ago rather than trying toprove a point by matching us "footballistically" as it were, the drought wouldn't have lasted eleven years. Darbinho, if Lennon has murdered Clichy why has he never created a goal against us and one of his only two goals against us was when Traore was playing, his other came when he was playing upfront in the last minute? You can't compare Walcott and Lennon yet because they don't play at the same level.
Little Dutch
we were missing our best players dont give us that bull, yer ment to be a cl team with, big squad to cope with injuries, LD u sound as if we beat ye casue ye were missing some players, i rem ye beating us an we had a mixed back 4 an ye said to us that we were making excuses, i bet ye are still in shock that we have beaten ye an i no its hurts as we prob stopped ye winning the title unless we can stop chelsea getting 3 points, better team doesnt always win arse played nice football in final 3rd but got nowhere an could not break our super defense down
123spurs
Id agree with your last sentence LD but for different reasons, Walcott still looks like a young saints kid/bench warmer with blistering pace and nothing much else where Lennon has matured into the best RW in the country although i think Valencia looks a great player too. Id take both to the World Cup though, pace is key to our chances. That and dropping 3 goals and 1 assist in 33matches legend Emile Heskey. Seriously LD as someone who likes looking over stats on players, have you ever seen a worse record than Heskeys this year? He is literally stealing a living, and hes going to the world cup, how???
HuddersfieldYiddo
Going off topic about Heskey again, but the thinking i believe is that Rooney needs a carthorse upfront to provide space for him. But Rooney is top scorer in europe playing upfront on his own, so it just doesnt make sense. Hes the biggest mystery in football
HuddersfieldYiddo
123, in atleast 5 instances, it was not your defence we couldn't break down but your goalkeeper.
Deltaforce
sms jaelle u wud not have the brain to figure it out
123spurs
ye only threatened when rvp came on you cud see we were tiring after 120 min. an yer goal was off side
123spurs
If we ask you nicely 123 will you please not write in text? It makes any point you make sound ridiculous.
iceman10
Its all about expectations really. We are egging Walcott to improve all the time because he isn't at the technical level of some of our other players. Yids are over the moon with Lennon because he is already their best player. And that is without achieving much in his career.
Deltaforce
k iceman ;)
123spurs
Fair enough LD, you've basically supported the point i made earlier. Injuries are no excuse in the end: it's the business end of the season, you went to the home of your bitterest enemies and watched your season go up in smoke_yet again. There's got to be a reason for why it happens, and there is, and it's to do with your manager. Everything happens at Arsenal in the right way, etc, etc, and yet you cannot send a team out onto a pitch time and again and win playing the same way, time and again. Best laid plans always come unstuck, but those who can adapt and survive and change, win in the end. So again, the debate for Arsenal fans needs to begin here.
Tony Rocky Horror
Well fancy you setting the agenda for our discussion TRH! Since you have our best interest at heart surely you can set the agenda. Our manager has his weaknesses but his strengths far exceed them. He knows how to win the league unlike some other managers who have only finished mid table throughout their careers. The funny thing is you think something is wrong at our club when your club is nowhere close to us in any respect. Remove the plank from your eye before asking us to remove the speck in ours. Cheers.
Deltaforce
How about sorting out your own chicken coup before trying to the fox in mine? God i'm being kind, i'm giving the metaphores and the tactical advice now! I'm too soft on yous.
Tony Rocky Horror
be the fox in mine
Tony Rocky Horror
TRH you sure do a great Don Quixote impression. TRH you are indeed too good for us. Too good for the world itself. You sir, belong to another world - the netherworld.
Deltaforce
Spurs Fans - Will any of you seriously buy that dvd? Fantastic result for you guys, but will you really spend £9.99 to watch Arsenal pass the ball around for 88 minutes? I suppose Rose's wonder strike would be worth it for you chaps, but you could just buy the highlights package. lol
Rocky7
Cmon Rocky, Spu*s could do with some money. Its not as if their stadium plans are going to take off anytime soon :-) Besides you know their fans love to get ripped off. Dont burst their bubble.
Deltaforce
Oh dear, grumpy old Delta's playing like a spent force.
Tony Rocky Horror
"How about sorting out your own chicken coup before trying to the fox in mine?" -- huh? Wow, talk about hypocrisy. You're the one who's on an Arsenal blog every day telling us what's wrong with us, giving us unasked for advice about what what our manager should do, what we gooners should think. You seem more concerned about our problems than your own club's.
jaelle
Better a spent force than a horror upon society :-) touched a raw nerve did I? Btw TRH how much time in a day do you spend trolling Arsenal websites? You know ACLF and the like? Your job must not be very taxing. Does Redknapp know about your job yet. He doesn't like taxing jobs either.
Deltaforce
So true, and you know the worst of it jaelle? Alot of what this bugger says it right! Still, you don't have to take it lying down, you've got a right of reply, and you do, so what's the problem? As long as it doesn't descend into unprovoked abuse, it's all part of the fun. Laters.
Tony Rocky Horror
Here is my prediction for the next 4 games. WLDL. Its going to be a horrible 4 more games. Since it has been confirmed that Gallas, Vermelen, Cesc, Arshavin and probably Song are done for the rest of the season, i can see the inept players only winning 1 game and that is Wigan. We will lose to City based on the available players, blackburn will be a dog fight, and fulham if out of the Eufa will also beat us.
Arseniger
Oh and Delta, you didn't touch a nerve, unfortunately for you didn't even disrupt a hair on my head.
Tony Rocky Horror
Has anyone watched an horror movie lately? if not, watch out for one coming up on sunday...Its called Wigan Vs Arsenal featuring Mikael Silvestre at the CB of Arsenal defence.
Arseniger
Arseniger, I'm afraid you're right. I won't even watch the City game. They're going to come to our ground and win for the first time in how long? Blackburn and Fulham will be very very hard games for this lot. We do have RVP but we'll also have Silvestre and Almunia in each of those games (tho they're not the only problems with the remaining squad).
jaelle
I would hate it if my words hurt you TRH. Don Quixote is one of my favourite literary characters and you remind me of him very much.
Deltaforce
Arseniger if the sequence of games turn out differently from what you have predicted would you be happy to be proved wrong or sad that you weren't right?
Deltaforce
I for one would be overjoyed to be proved wrong!
jaelle
Good write up LD. I felt the same way before the game, didnt feel very confident. But I was really disappointed with some of the performances. There was no invention, no guile, no nothing, just pass pass pass. Someone should have at least tried to take shots on goal from outside the box. RvP made a huge difference, and I'm glad I was proved wrong there (I thought he would be injured). Spurs defended very very well, and that was the difference. They were well organised, got men behind when we had the ball, and made it really difficult for us. Gomes had a great game to back up his defence. At the end of the day, the defences made the difference -Arsenal gave away a cheap 2nd goal, whilst the Spuds defended as if their lives depended on it. Well done Spurs.
prits
Silvestre played CB against Wigan last year and I seem to remember not only us winning 4-1, but him scoring. HY, Capello isn't a stupid man, Heskey isn't one of the best eleven players in England but the formation is geared towards Gerrard and Rooney and it suits them. Could Zamora do as good a job in that role? Too late to find out. TRH, don't flatter yourself, it's a debate that has been going on here since well before you showed up. Fact is, Arsenal aren't quite on the level of Chelsea, Barca and United yet. But the team is improving year on year and given their age there is no reason to believe they won't improve further. They're already infinitely better than they were last year and we'll be in the title race again next year. Spurs won't and Spurs won't finish 4th either I'm afraid, so really TRH you come across like a beggar trying to tell Donald Trump where to invest next. Don't flatter your team too much because you came up trumps on a scratch card at the 22nd time of asking, ya dig?
Little Dutch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCSaGFRf_vw (At 23 secs... its better than sex)
gunner24
Speaking of Donald Trump TinyClogsDoesBlogs, you remind me of Don King. Well, you talk as much shash.
Tony Rocky Horror
Spurs wont improve? Why not LD? We're a young side aswell and weve had bad injurys all season unlike Villa & City and even Liverpool apart from Torres. And as for saying we wont finish 4th, i think we have a great chance - we need a favour from you guys beating them like. Ill take heart from the fact earlier this season when you said quote "Mark my words, Liverpool will finish 4th" well quite.
HuddersfieldYiddo
I didn't say Spurs wouldn't improve, I said you wouldn't be in the title race. You've obviously improved on last year, but it took a lot of wonga! (Only Citeh spent more). You're right, I thought Liverpool wouldfinish 4th right up until the Fulham draw, but clearly they won't. Unfortunately, it's Citeh's to lose I think. I'd much rather Villa got it, then Liverpool, then you guys, then Citeh. There again, Citeh were gonna get it one day and the rules on squad composition are really kicking in now, so Citeh won't be buying up the CL just yet.
Little Dutch
The game last night showed everyone how to play arsenal. Don't try and play them at their own game. Technically arsenal has one of the best starting line ups which could match chelsea and man u. However unlike true champions such as man u and (hate to say it) chelsea they only have one way of playing which spurs didnt let them play. I feel last night proved that ur team lacked any winners, players with that winning instinct and with out any big name signings of proven winners the NLD will become more and more interesting as the years go on. As I admit we are far from the team you have built up the gap between the two clubs is becoming closer and closer. Dont beleive the crap that this had to happen as it had been 11 years, it happened because from start to finish we knew exactly how to play you. The spurs team that won was missing key players and players who played for 120 mins 3 days before on a cut up pitch, no excuses you were outplayed. COYS
shelfside yido
"The game last night showed everyone how to play arsenal." I think Chelsea and United got there before you. "I feel last night proved that ur team lacked any winners, players with that winning instinct." So you're trying to tell me Spurs do have the winning instinct? Where was it against Pompey? How many of last night'sstarting line up were turning out for you in 1961? "the gap between the two clubs is becoming closer and closer." The only way it could have got wider would have been had you been relegated. You all seem to be getting Spurs syndrome again, yes you won and you deserved it, nobody disputes that. But all of a sudden you're all filling your pants with wee because you think this is a power shift with forecasts of "next year" expected throughout the night. Beating us in a league game for the first time in 22 attempts is not a power shift, it's barely even a bowel movement in the grand scheme of things. That's why your club released DVDs every time you don't lose to us, because they realise that us not tonking you is an occasion worth commemorating.
Little Dutch
The glaringly obvious disingenuous comments made in the post were later underlined in subsequent 'Yeovil will eventually beat us after 11 years' patronising crap we have come to expect. It was Ali style ROPE-A-DOPE and that makes it even more enjoyable. Stick that in your well thumbed thesoborus Little Crutch
lordjohnny
Ahmy favourite armchair intellectial is back, unsure how to contribute anything of worth to the world himself, he comes here and tries to disect the character of a writer he has never met becuase it helps him cover the inadequacies of his own mediocre existence. Try formulating an original thought yourself, rather than wah wahing over here because you've no idea how to formulate an original thought yourself.
Little Dutch
Oh dear...have I touched a nerve......the spelling mistakes, the repetitive nonsense, or perhaps that cider tax has yet to kick in. By coincidence I am just about to watch a documentary on Lord Haw Haw, another infamous 'intellectial'.
lordjohnny
LD you have to stop rejecting this guys friend requests on facebook, just give in.
iceman10
about time these spuds left us and we start thinking about restricting their visits on here
shady gunna
To be fair a lot of Spurs supperters have contributed positively and in good spirit over here since their win over us but as with any club you are bound to get the knob-heads commenting bull*****.
gronedrone
LOL, never mind Tinyclogs, it's nearly over. At least you attempted to withstand the barrage, unlike some of your compatriots who stood back and let you take it_hard.
Tony Rocky Horror
Can you be really THAT happy that it's taken you 10 years to beat us? 10 years and over half or first team out injured with 6 choice Silvestre in defence to tae advantage of? Doesn't that really PROVE you're the *****ter side ultimately? Can you really be THAT happy that you were given a huge handicap to beat us? I suppose you lot will take anything you can get though? I would too if i was a spurs fan. As for Arsenal, Diaby seems to be finishing the season as bad as he started it. I hated him for the first half of the season and he improvd greatly, now he seems to have turned back into the useless ***** who has a love affair with giving the ball stupidly to the other team. My lord, seeing RVP was greeted with mixed feelings of relief and hindsight to the 'what if?' factor. A whole season with him and Cesc next season will see us win the title, no doubt in my mind.
FuiKaka
Every year I have been writing on this blog I think without doubt I have the largest rose tinted glasses of any gunner supporter. Every year since I have been able to understand even a little bit I have said we would win everything that was on offer. Some years I have been right, pure luck just the same as the Spuds beating us. But I agree with Jaelle it was a rubbish game by two teams of almost the same standard. LD and Amos I have the utmost respect for your opinions but I ask you to re-watch the game we we dreadful. The second goal was a giveaway by mainly Eboue who played Bale on side. Players on numerous occasions standing in the middle of the box watching three or four Spuds players with the ball and no one within six yards of them. If it had been Manu or the Chavs or Everton we would have been mashed. I cannot agree more that we have had terrible injuries but we play a junior side in the Carling cup who would have performed better. I hark back to the junior team who thrashed Liverpool. I wish no ill will to any player who wears the Arsenal shirt but if Silvestra and Almunia are the players we rest our team on then heaven help us. If RVP is our savior then our goal keeper is a bloody big hole, and to think they made him the captain. I love our team with a passion and always will no matter what they do, but I also reserve the right to pass an opinion and that game was rubbish by any standards. I've said my piece and look forward to Saturday with renewed hope, if we have no chance of winning the title which seems to be the case bring the youngsters out to fill the defense but include Sol an Arsenal great.
alwaysgunner
alwaysgunner, your thoughts seem emotional because of our loss to the tiny tots after 11 years. While we were guilty of 1 glaring defensive error which led to their second goal and failing to adeqately breaking down Spurs but overall we played far from badly. And pls dont talk about Everton as some kind of bogey team for us. We have the best record against Everton historically amongst all the PL teams. This season we collected 4 points out of 6 including a 6-1 demolition. I respect your opinion but it does seem more clouded by emotion than fact.
Deltaforce
lordjonny, seriously ask yourself why you come onto a football forum to try and dissect the character of someone you've never met? Why do you repeatedly read the articles of someone whose writing you profess to dislike? Is that not odd behaviour, slightly demendted even? The truth is you probably do have some intellect somewhere in that bitter brain of yours but you just never had the balls to use it in your life. That's why you cover up your frustration by simply sitting back and sniping at those that do. Your posts never have a thing to do with football, it's always some amateur character assassination. You seem like a petty and bitter man. You don't know me, you've never met me, you couldn't pick me out of a line up, so why do you think you have my character pinned down? Why do you try to pin it down? If you don't like what I have to say about football why do you read and comment on every single one of my articles? Bill Hicks once said to a heckler, "I'm tired of looking at empty vessels like you wanting me to fill your empty life with humour you couldn't possibly think of yourself." In short lordjonny, get a life mate.
Little Dutch
TRH, why do you imagine I require reinforcement from anyone? I'm perfectly capable of arguing my point without "the cavalry" as you put it earlier. While we're on the amateur cod psychology stuff, you do seem to be harbouring this military fantasy with regards to this forum a bit, don't you? I'd bet you're sitting in front of your PC with a tin pot on your head, pointing a coathanger towards the screen and shooting it like a gun.
Little Dutch
lmfao LD at that last bit. theres some good banter on here its a good read. good article but slightly biased but it would be the same on VS. i have to get my 2penneth in and say why are people comparing walcott and lennon its no contest at all and all this hes played at the highest level more so what the EPL has had finalists in the CL for the last 5 years approx and each one of these teams has been terrorized by aaron at some point so how is that not playing at the highest level? add to that his demoltion of croatia at wembley. now i know theo did croatia in there back yard but i havent i dont think theo is any good hes a cracking little player but not on aarons level IMO
jljyid
alwaysgunner - i don't think it was our worst performnce of the season, don't think it was our best, but definately not our worst. The defensive blunder for the second goal was awful, and Eboue, loved as he is by the Arsenal fans, is still capable of doing some very moronic things.
FuiKaka
''SAID''
jljyid
Hilarious image LD. Although TRH is not as much a tin pot dictator as a clueless Quixote.
Deltaforce
Captain Mainwaring.
iceman10
Delta, do me a favour! I talk about Arsenal not taking the NLD seriously for the last 7 yrs or so and you start talking about 4th spot, league exploits, and Krancjar & Palacios???? The fact that AW stated at the beginning of the season that it is now the big 6, shows that the gulf which you talk about has reduced. Either that or there is only a big 2, of which you are not one. I did not say we are better or as good as you (yet), I said we are improved. I did not even mention our signings but as you bring it up, we were after Arshavin and the price was too high, but he would've signed. We still got his Int'l partner and equal (at least), Pav. Please point out where your level of signings are beyond us. You're not Chelsea and you're not Man U. If anyone is deluded and oblivious of the precariousness of their own position, it is you. Now go away and watch highlights of the days before Mourinho gave Fergie some real competition.
Arsson Finga
LD, I admit there is still a fair bit to do before we are on par with you lot and in my pervious comment I never said there was a “power shift”, that would be foolish, but you’re not the same team that won the double and is it any great shock that the only player who turned up for you was s*l, a player who is a winner, the rest were shivering in their boots, in the prospect of a season changing game. I’m not saying spurs are any different; both teams build up high aspirations which nearly always end up in tears. “Where was it against Pompey?” Going back to the Pompy game it shows how much we have come on under Harry. The mark of a good side is how you pick yourselves up after a bad day, which is exactly what we did and exactly what you couldn’t do after the battering you received from barca 1 week ago.
shelfside yido
So now Spurs have better bouncebackability than Arsenal aswell? seems delusion is back in fashion this summer. Cant see how we were even in the race based on that, maybe it was the fact we won 6 on the spin after losing to Chelsea at the bridge? Quaking in our boots were we? would that be due to all the beatings you have handed out to us in recent years? Enjoy your win but dont over analyse the fact is was just 1 good win and 1 in which your goalkeeper was man of the match and Danny Rose scored goal of the season.
iceman10
SY, the game was very even, indeed Arsenal had more shots, more possession, more corners, won more tackles etc. I'm not trying to wave that as some kind of moral victory, but it puts paid to the suggestion we were outplayed. Had we been thoroughly outplayed and thrashed, I would have seen your points more readily. That we were so active in the contest rather suggests that players weren't shaking in their boots or hiding. Yes Sol was undoubtedly our best player, at the age of 35 he does have that experience and is a winner. But you also can't overestimate how much he wanted to get one over on Spurs and use the stick as motivation- that gave him a little extra and that was the best he has played for us this year. Though that's not to say he hasn't been excellent throughout. I'm not sure the Barca game had many ramifications for us, Spurs simply took their chances better- the first goal was a wonder strike- and when your keeper was called upon he made world class saves. For that you deserved your victory, but I think the contest was very close and statistically edged by us in all but the most important area of the game! We're not the same team that won the double, but you can't improve on perfection. The team is of a very young age and has taken a massive stride this year and I'm quietly confident for next year. I don't think Arsenal fans build up high aspirations at all, quite the opposite, we've become a quite miserable and spoiled lot. Very few were predicting any sort of title shot from us this year, either pundits or supporters. I've seen enough fight in this team to suggest we'll give it an even better shot next year. The best thing we can do is thoroughly review why we get so many injuries and try and remedy it quick sharp. Spurs may well improve again next season but with the emergence of Man Citeh, I think your progress may have come too late.
Little Dutch
Delta Force- No I feel both clubs can improve and probably it will be easier for Arsenal as over recent years you have become a more desirable club for big players to go to. Just I can't see wenger spending and that’s my main point, when will he realise that chelsea a long time ago ruined any chance of the premier league being won in a way that arsene wants to win it. iceman -yes u did well to get back in to the title race but the game on Wednesday was the most important and has now made the rest of those games insignificant, Chelsea and man u don't choke at the last moment and it’s because they are a team of winners it’s in their DNA, and I’m not having a go at arsenal just saying that to have a serious go at the title you need these players in every posistion. Can you honestly say the win was all down to gomes, because if you watched the game you would have clearly seen it was a team effort and you’re clearly just bitter
shelfside yido
Spurs deserved their win no bitterness from me I just dont like the over analysis of what was a tight 2-1 win. You say United have a winning mentality in their DNA yet they will probably win nothing this year and their home game with Bayern was a disaster as was the home defeat to Chelsea.
iceman10
To add to what iceman10 has said about United this season, lets look at Chelsea in the last 3 years before this. With their resources, all star squad and depth they failed to win either the PL or CL. Is that the stuff of winners?
Deltaforce
carling cup?-cup of champions!!
shelfside yido
this is probably a poor time to be illistrating this point with clubs not spending as they have in the past and teams like Man u selling key players to blance the books. In the case of Chelsea, the reason for not winnig either the PL or CL wasnt due to the quality of thier players but the managerial merry go round they have suffered since the sacking of jose
shelfside yido
shelfside yido, the point is that the managerial merry go around was a disaster of Chelsea's own making. But its not as if the players are completely calm when success is around the corner. JT being a case study with his slip and slide routine in Moscow.
Deltaforce
It was inevitable that an argument would break out, and yes, i did come over yesterday partly for a chat, and partly for a ***** take. We've taken enough from you lot so it was our turn. What really upset me was the way a lot of Arse fans were really honest, but you, LD, claimed that the only reason you sat in WHL and expected to lose was because the sun shines on a dog's arse every now and then!!!! It was just chance! Nothing to do with our players, Harry, our fans, or your manager's tactics. Those who have already been generous about Spurs in their postings needn't feel in any way offended by this at all. C
Tony Rocky Horror
If you actually took the trouble to read the piece, I didn't say tat was the only reason at all, did I? I said that was my feeling pre match, you know, before a ball was kicked and before any sentient being could possibly know how the game was going to unfold. It having unfolded, no, that was not the only reason we lost and I at no point said that it was the only reason.
Little Dutch
Ok, fair enough so what do you believe now?
Tony Rocky Horror
Well if you raise your eyes about three inches to the top of the screen and read the article, you'll find out.
Little Dutch
Ok, fair enough. But I cannot stop thinking about how remarkable it was that you felt this way before such a crucial match. You were supporting the better team. But i felt the exact opposite; i expected us to win, and i've never felt like that. Something in our subconscious seemed to be churning away and our instincts were spot on. i Have a theory, but don't wish to be accused of cod- psychology again.
Tony Rocky Horror
TRH, your hypersensitivity and total misinterpretation of LD's comments says everything about your spud-colored glasses and nothing at all about his article. You really need to chill out, you're seeing things that aren't there. You're so hysterical about finally getting a win over us that you turn it into a "humiliation" (a hilarious spud view of the game, no media pundit has said anything like that and there are lots of anti-arsenal pundits out there). LD quite clearly praised your performance, crediting you with taking your chances, "looking menacing on the break," finally playing in a manner that acknowledged you cannot beat us at our own game and so used the counterattack effectively, and defending well. Saying that does not exclude the truth of the argument that you guys had to beat us one day. You REALLY don't think we haven't been saying to ourselves for years "surely this can't go on, they have to beat us one day." I've been saying that since at least 2002, ffs, approaching every NLD at your ground with more and more trepidation that one day you guys would finally get one over on us and it would be a serious thrashing. Well sorry, it wasn't -- not in the league anyway. Your posts sound incredibly desperate for our fawning approval. We've all acknowledged you deserved your win but you want more because in your fevered imagination a good game of football in which both teams showed their quality at different moments is translated into a resounding one-sided humiliation. You sound as if your season is over and this is your greatest achievement in decades. You're not going to get anything more from us, we're not going to fawn all over you. Esp. since we constantly have to deal with spuds like you coming out with excuses when we beat you comprehensively. You're demanding something from us that we never get from you.
jaelle
For ffs jaelle you really didn't need to blunder in with the same old bollox.
Tony Rocky Horror
Seems 'the sun shines on a dog's arse twice a week' it would seem boys! Fluke obviously of course, oh wait a minute, no... When did you last have a convincing victory against Chelsea by the way?! COYS!
TommoSpur
Last season at Stamford Bridge Tommo. Van Persie scored both goals for us in a 2-1 victory. Well played against Chelski. Spurs have definitely improved this year.
Deltaforce
LD's pre-match feelings are not that difficult to understand TRH especially for a cod psychologist. We had been on a run of 11 seasons without losing in the league to the Spuds. Irrespective of the form of either team based on the law of averages the feeling that that run will end at any point must increase with each game.
Amos.
Lol @ Dummospur, when the last time you won away from home against a top 4 club?
iceman10
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Av' it you scummy rats. - From all at Vital Spurs ;)
i love arry
Shelfside it seems that you got it a bit wrong on here!! Chelsea chocked last nite!!!! Lets face it Arsenal are still a much better team than spurs and one win doesn't change that at all. Wish it were not so of course but it is. We played well but it was a very close game. The game against Chelski was not as close and we played even better in that game and could have won by a much bigger margin. That was not the case against Arsenal.
arabspur
Jaelle chill out mate!!!!!
arabspur
'..this team just don't do lying down...'. Ha, ask Wigan today if they believe you.
Windlespur
All ive got to say is furself Wenger Modric made your midfield look like *****.
Uskok
Delta, do you have a Ribery or a Dzeko? 'Nuff said!!!
Arsson Finga
Fair enough Delta, touche! I did say 'convincing', but we'll let that pass. Get rid of Sol, he's doing you no good, creaky as hell! Iceman, as ever your glacier-speed wit fails to astound me... However we'll try and break that duck and hand you boys another shot at the title next weekend - try not to balls it up this time - COYS!
TommoSpur
 

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