Barca Voice Fake Ethics But Tapping Up Continues

"Cheeky Buggerystain" - Lol, nice!!

The only thing I like about Barcelona is their playing style, the rest of their club is grotesque.

What scum. I hate the way their league's two competitive teams just collect players like effing pokemon. I hope "280 million no trophies Real" actually give these****s a beating next season, then hopefully every other player will slow down on "dreaming" of playing for Barca and they won't treat Arsenal like a feeder club. In the opinion of this Chelsea fan, the very least Fabregas can do to thank Wenger and Arsenal, if he leaves, is to publically express vague interest in moving to Citeh so they instantly make an obscene bid which means you guys get a good price for him from Barca.

Ethics? ETHICS?! These ********s dont know the meaning of the word. Its a foreign concept to them. Navydave, yes we are not whiter than white when it comes to our transfer dealings, but we are nowhere near as underhanded as these *****ers thats for sure.

I've become immune to it, it doesn't even bother me anymore. It's like having to deal with an obnoxious, yapping dog in the neighboring yard all the time, after awhile you tune it out.

hey guys, if fabregas does go it will be a big loss for arsenal and also the EPl. wonderful player, and seems like a nice person too. but look on the bright side, ars enal fans. at least you do not lose your best players to other epl clubs. this is something we need to learn from you. btw first time posting on vital ars enal here :)

Even if that is true Jaelle Barca are still fueling the fires. Just look at their quotes - "I don't know when but he will be a barca player and he will enjoy it" .... respecting our wishes my arse.

I don't trust anything coming out of Barcelona's hierarchy, and I doubt they are just reacting... politics aside, based on what we've heard, it's conceivable that Cesc is driving this after having his head turned... it'll be a very sad day if he goes now and it also exposes Wenger a bit - like Cesc saying "I'm grateful for what I learnt here but I need to play in a better team and now"... it hurts to say it, but in a way I can almost get my head around that... Whatever happens, I want us to come out of it fighting!

I think it's a mixture of both, Cesc and Barca. The way Barca have conducted themselves, not just now, but throughout the seven years Cesc has been with us, has been disgusting. I understand perfectly the reasons why Cesc wants to leave, but there is a CORRECT way of doing things, and this is not the way. Yes, Cesc wants to join Barca and Barca want Cesc, but they have to overcome two very big obstacles before they jump into bed together. 1. Arsenal must AGREE to allow Cesc to leave, and 2. Barca must pay the transfer amount set by Arsenal. If Arsenal don't agree to sell him, or the transfer price cannot be agreed by both parties, then Cesc remains at Arsenal. SIMPLES.

It really is quite disgusting the way that a "proffessional" football club would pursue a player that is under contract this way. I hope that Arsenal really take them to the cleaners if they do end up selling fabregas to them.

Agreed Daniel. A mass underestimation of Cesc and his incredible. I would tell Barca just to ***** off just for being classless *****s. Settle for nothing less than 50 mil at least. They wont him so bad, they will pay. If they cant afford it or wont pay, then stop wasting our *****ing time!

hes a little ******** anyway off wit him

jaelle - love your posts mate, you always see a side to things that I have overlooked. My comment regarding " a correct way to do things " etc, referred to some of the interviews that Cesc has given over the months and years. My argument with him was that he always finished his " I love Arsenal and I am happy there " sentences with " I will return to Barca one day, it is my dream ".

Maybe he did, he's got a womans' name, whos to say he aint got the plumbing.

£30 million? They can feck off. I wouldn't go to bed with Joan Laporta for that. 60 million and not one penny less. If you can't pay it tough. Here he stays to honour his contract.

I would probably go to bed with Laporta for 500k

F**k farca. They are too damn greedy.

The grass is always greener isn't it? Cesc should have a chat with Matthieu and Alexander before leaving his captains position at a club that adores him.

Is anyone here playing in the members 5 a side day tomorrow?

Yeah, seems like alot of games in a short space of time. What team are you on paul_ownz? I'm on team Van Persie.

Is there a team Fabregas or have they pulled out?

I am on team Walcott

Walcott eh? So only your subs will be any good!

I hope we've got team Fabianski in our group.

It's a light distraction from all this barca guff tho eh rich, think we've given those oily tw@nkers more than enough of our time and emotion!

Fair comment nikolaijns. Is there a team Silvestre ???

Only if team Vermaelen don't show :)

Are you any good gunnerpig? I hope i am not in the same team as a load of poor players. I know its meant to be for the experience and a bit of fun, but i like to win. Saying that i have strained my hamstring and have not played on it for 3 weeks, i can still feel it so im hoping its ok tommorow.

God Paul, that's post is like Cescs life in a microcosm

Ha ha niko. They do call me fabregas on my team. I have alot of love for team walcott, but i have team Eboue in my DNA

and as for Fabregas it seems a bizarre move and you have to wonder if there is something else driving him towards this. He's a central figure at one of Europe's richest clubs, yet wants to move to a team where I find it very unlikely, on recent form, that it would be an easy task to dislodge Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets, all of whom are ahead of him both domestically as well as with the National team as well as youngsters like Gai Assulin coming through

Biscuits is ********* though and if Fab does join, he will be dropped like a bad habit. I reckon they would play Xavi and Fab behind Iniesta and deploy Iniesta in a more attacking role. Or he could just move to the left and Fab partners Xavi in central mid.

"Biscuits is ********* though" - Is that a joke??? Sorry, TGB, you are WAY off base!

More on Fab.. Looks like he definitely stirred the *****.. which is very very disappointing. Sol is qouted as saying " "Although a one-year contract has been offered, these things take some time to thrash out - and I imagine Arsene has quite a lot to deal with at the moment, particularly with Fabregas."

Fabregas is gone, lets hope we can get a decent replacement like Mesut Ozil or Yoann Gourcouff. I'd prefer us to sort out a replacement before we let him go but I don't think thats going to happen.

Absolute *********. Cesc is going nowhere THIS season.

Oh, and the grass IS greener in Barcelona, unfortunately.

Badge-kissing and talking from the heart are, in this case, rational - emotional as well - but none the less rational. He realises what the club has done for him and wants to thank those involved for the support. But there were times this season, especially at Stamford Bridge, when you could see that he knew he wasn't playing in a team of winners. He's not delusional. When you know you have to leave something you love, you do as much as you can to show your appreciation for what it's done for you, whilst in this case keeping your mouth shut about leaving - you don't want to cause a stir in the middle of the season. Unfortunately, some will interperet these actions retrospectively as being false. It must be tough. I don't think his leaving this summer is inevitable, but certainly it will be on his mind more than ever.

Exactly, Vin. Would Cesc want to leave if this team had shown any real progress in getting past this 3rd place/4th place rut we're in? Cesc is in the same category of young world class players like Cronaldo, Messi, Rooney -- they're of similar age. He's watched them get loads of trophies and awards. While he languishes with a team of coasters and chokers. However, today I think Julie may be right: CESC IS GOING NOWHERE THIS SEASON. I watched the events of yesterday with Barca bringing in Villa and read some of the Spanish press, as well as Barca blogs. Just read arseblog, he's got it right, it fits entirely with what a lot of pundits are saying: Arsenal have the upper hand in this, esp. because Barca are in serious debt. It's not just the huge sum they just paid for Villa. They're supposed to be renovating Camp Nou, a project that apparently is costing them a huge chunk of change. Arsenal hold all the cards in this (at least financially) and the way Barca have behaved has probably ratcheted up the resentment and anger at the club, making them harden even more. Arsenal aren't interested in Toure (nor is he in us) nor Ibra, the only 2 players Barca can offer in any sale. And I don't think Arsenal will accept 30m. If Barca really want this deal to go thru, they'll have to dig very deep for the cash. Now Arsenal's one weak point is that they risk keeping a player who's forced to stay where he doesn't want to. But Cesc loves the club and Arsene. And Arsene's great at persuasion when he has to be.

They can ***** right off with that proprietary *********. Arsenal FC made Cesc the player he is today, taught him everything he knows and therefore based on the fact that we have moulded Cesc into a world class player, we are therefore entitled to ask for a fee reflecting his world class status is a similar vein to the fees of Cristina, Kaka, Ibra etc and all the other big money signings you have seen recently. And you know what the added advantage is and what Cesc has on all of them? Cesc hasnt even reached his prime yet, lord knows how phenomenal this kid is going to be in the next 4-5 years when he is in his prime. Barca will probably reap the rewards of that and therefore they should stump up what we ask for. Its that simple.

Nice points jaelle and T-G-B. I think a valuation should be based on what it'll cost to replace the player in question. Regardless of who trains him, or who he ' loves ', it would probably cost Arsenal up to £80m to replace him and re-build the team.

OT: OMG, can't believe UEFA chose Coward Webb to officiate the CL final!

Oh dear, they may not be able to make a bid after all. Hahaha!! Word of advice to Farca, check your finances first and make sure you can actually afford the player before you start proclaiming in the press how you will endeavour to sign him. Its just common sense.

Vin, Deco is determined to join Fluminense - he wants to return to Brazil.

They can't resist dangling the carrot? That means they can't resist the dangling carrot of dangling the carrot. Hmmmm.......

To those of you slagging him off, id be praying for your sake they throw Biscuits into any deal as hes better than any of your current crop, that much was evident when he bossed the park at the emirates. Something like £30m and him wouldnt be too shabby a deal!

Nah, Fabregas won't be going to BarTHElona cos he wouldn't have a prayer of getting in the team. He'll go to Chelsea instead when Frank Pantslard fecks off to Madrid for a sunset smooch with Jose. Don't worry, we'll send the Hudd as a replacement. With a year's supply of his food arriving by HMS Endevour.

bowie, spot-on, Busquets is quality and there's no way Barca would sell him to anyone, he's integral to their squad. Interesting tweet from John Cross a half hour ago: "Think Barca will make move for Cesc soon. But #Arsenal standing firmer than firm. Admire their stance and increasingly I think they can win."

Jaelle - how do I find John Cross on Twitter?

Lol CR I can imagine someone like Sevilla or Deportivo coming to us and saying ' we are willing to pay 10 million for Almunia' to which our board says '***** off, we want 20 million or no deal!'

You guys are cracking me up, pleeeeaase. Been on another round trip and been unable to hook up. Fingers crossed on the Cesc matter, though. Coward Webb is CL final Ref. Good grief; watch out for one big call to hand the game to Inter (Bayern eliminated ManU, his favourite side) then.

Usedcock, you should be used to that, so I guess you are an authority in such matters.

Why should Arsenal sell Fabregas for less than his market value? I don't care if he wants to go to Barcelona. He's contracted to us or 5 years and is worth at least £60million. Its up to the spaniards to find the money, not ask us to take a financial hit. I'm sure Cesc understands this which is why he's saying its in the club's hands. If we bend over and drop our shorts then there's no-one to blame but the board. Don't forget those catalans already owe us a shed load of cash, so the last thing we should be doing is giving our best player away at a bargain price.