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Debt Paid In Full

2 years ago, Arsenal were humiliated by arch rivals Tottenham at White Hart Lane, tonight the debt was repaid in full.

The League Cup is a competition that has lost it's way somewhat over the last few years, many accusing fingers pointed angrily at Arsene Wenger for using the competition to blood young players, many laughed at the 5-1 mauling claiming 'poetic justice' for making a mockery of a formerly worthy football competition.

Tonight Arsene fielded a much stronger squad and emerged victorious 4-1 after extra time. Of course many will claim that we had to resort to bringing our best players to be able to do the job, but the reality is, our squad is far far better now than it was in 2008.

Players missing from action tonight include Fabregas, van Persie, Bendtner, Song, Vermaelen, Walcott, Sagna, and 9 changes made from the Premier League squad that drew 1-1 with Sunderland on Saturday, so whilst Spurs fielded a weaker side, so did we.

The fact that the game went to extra time when playing a second string Spurs side does little to tell the truth of the story, because despite a 15 minute rally from the Spurs team at the start of the second half, the Gunners bossed the game all over the park.

A stick on penalty refused early doors, a certain Kieran Gibbs goal incorrectly ruled out for offside, and then there was Tottenham's goal given when the Irishman was stood a mile offside, yet the same lino who ruled against Gibbsy saw fit to let the goal stand.

Arsenal were superb tonight, Koscielny, Gibbs and Wilshere earning the most brownie points at least from my perspective.

Only two Arsenal players survived from that 5-1 drubbing to play tonight, yet the rest of the squad paid their debt in full.

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Writer: Rocky7

Date:Tuesday September 21 2010

Time: 10:46PM

Your Comments

Im wondering if should wait for it to come out on blu ray or not

ajwb

Great performance all round the park from us. Hope the team use this fillip to spur them on to even bigger things.

Deltaforce

Well, not really. Well done though you deserved it & congratulations! Your reserves are better than ours!

HuddersfieldYiddo

Not really? How so? Ok, you scored 1 more goal than we did in your drubbing .... but we were away from home :) Thanks for being gracious though.

Rocky7

You beat our 4th team not even our reserves - well done *********s!

arpant

Thanks for the kind words arpant - That's about the nicest thing a Spurs fan has ever said to me :)

Rocky7

Think there is a big difference in the strength of the side we beat 5 - 1 ... Adebayor, Gallas, Sagna, Fabregas (on after 20 mins) etc. Compared to our side that you beat tonight. Fair play though, you dominated the game for 120 minutes. No complaints with the result either.

JC_Yido

You knew the good will was going to end eventually. How many more like arpant will we get? Let me hear the predictions....

gunnerkid107

What garbage! That match was a SEMI FINAL - full strength teams & a place at Wembley at stake. Clutch at straws if you want though.

peteski

4-1 away and playing with a rush goalie and no manager. Embarrassing for the spuds especially given the cost of their starting line up compared to ours.

iceman10

But I thought you didn't care about the CC PS Arsenal commit fouls = Lee Proberts allows play on. Spurs get the ball = Lee Probert gives a foul.

refereesfavourbig4

Well if i was to be picky id take 5-1 in normal time but hey, enjoy your moment. Actually kinda glad in a way, dont get me wrong id rather have shingles than lose to you lot but sometimes a match like this can galvanise a team. It also really showed how much we rely on our big hitters where you guys have over the years learned how to cope without RVPs & Cescs etc.

HuddersfieldYiddo

As for the debt, id dare say you still owe us one to be honest, even if its just a little one :)

HuddersfieldYiddo

What a joke rfavourbig4, if it were not for the linesman, the match may have been over in normal time in our favour.

Deltaforce

HY, there is no debt to be paid from our end! Look at the last decade. Please just look at the stats and tell me who has to repay the debt.

Deltaforce

We don't care about the CC referee ... we do care about beating Spurs though ;)

Rocky7

Arsenal dominated the game because Wenger took the game seriously and Redknapp did not. That was for a change. We fielded a very weak team were we normally field a decent one in the CC. But well done, you beat us deservingly just like we did 2 years ago. Very impressive performance from Wilshere, btw. I am curious - as an opposing team - what did you think of Bentley and Giovani(they were rubbsh in my Spurs eyes)?. and the debutants in Sandro, Naughton and Caulker?

mellowchaos

Delta - Yeah but if the linesman kept his flag down it would have been 0-1 insted of 1-4 and you wouldn't be able to sweep the 5-1 under the rug (Or at least try ;)

Phartman87

Put it into perspective though - it's the biggest away win in a NLD in 32 years. That was us winning at 5-0 at the White Hart Landfill in 1978.

Amos.

Sandro looked a it rough around the edge, a tryer though. Bentley is a massive over-rated, ego over-inflated piece of toss. I'm still laughing that you paid £17 million for him .... of which we got a chunk big enough to pay for a few players. Giovani .... very poormans Carlos Vela ... doesn't even come close.

Rocky7

Credit where it's due, congrats cos your kids played us off the park. Very impressed with a couple of your players, surprised it took them so long to put us out of our misery as we were very poor.

shelf16

I cant believe we paid 17m for him either. Giovani and him were over 20m. I would argue the Giovani point because i dont rate Vela, but i really dont care because either way Giovani has finally proved he can not cut it. Juande Ramos ***** ups that we havent even been able to sell. We would be lucky to get 8m for the pair. Sandro does look a little rough. But to be fair he was shoved in the deep end in a NLD derby with a less then idle set of team mates.

mellowchaos

phartman, actually it would have ended 0-2 after 90 mins because Gibbs would have scored and Keane's goal would not have stood because it was offside. mellow, many people have slated Bentley and he deserved most of the battering but he did make some good runs and his work rate could not be faulted. His overall compass and feel for the game seems lost though. He is not good enough for your first team and it shows. Giovanni am afraid was worse than Bentley in this game - he could as well been invisible because our players ran through him as if he were not there.

I liked Sandro - he is a DM and has to sometimes do some tactical fouling etc as part of the job profile. His tackling and work rate could not be faulted. He is not very creative but then thats understandable at this stage. Was impressed with Caulker - I think he has the makings of a good defender. One who may break through to your first team squad in a couple of years.

Deltaforce

I honestly forgot that Dos Santos was on the field. He only looks good in Mexico green.

gunnerkid107

I didn't mean rough around the edges in a bad way really, infact he did really well in what was essesially his first PL game. That's some introduction to English football. He mistimed a bit but he looks very handy indeed. Like Song for us though, he'll probably be prone to the odd yellow or red card.

Rocky7

Delta - I'm not sure that this has ever been said by any Spurs fan to an Arsenal fan in history. But i think you're giving our player(Bentley) far to much credit.

mellowchaos

"Gunner, maybe you should wait until AFTER the Cup tie to tell us all who has the better youth side........clown." YankeeSpur23 a comment made to me 30 minutes before kickoff. he must be the clown because i haven't stopped laughing haha

gunner10

Rocky7 - he's actually been likened to a certain Patrick Viera. that only goes so far because there have been hundreds of new Vieras, Beckhams and Zidanes. but at 6ft3 and a bug frame he could prove to be a decent midfielder for tough games. I also see a few yellows and red cards in his time at Spurs. But those players can be important to a team (obviously not with a very high Red Card count).

mellowchaos

*big Frame

mellowchaos

Apparently all the spuds left early to beat the q's to the after game Eboue seminar on pyramid schemes.

iceman10

Wilshere bossed that game tonight. I almost feel bad doing this given the graciousness of some of the Spurs fans here, but sod it, I sang it loud enough tonight to some empty seats at the Lane, "Shall we make, shall we make, shall we make a DVD? Shall we make a DVD?!"

Little Dutch

Off topic, guys but just how many penos have chamakh won for us? Seems to have a penalty-winning ability(plus he caused an opposition player to get sent off vs blackpool?)

shady gunna

The goonblog reports Gibbs may have a broken metatarsal again. Right at the end of the bleedin' game as well, just like before. ffs!!!

insider says

LD, please inform us of all the good songs that were sang tonight in your write-up tomorrow. :-)

TPowell

who cares about this, really? according to the gooners after we won this comp and beat them 5-1 its the "worthless cup" the "tin cup" the "milk cup". let them go nuts that they're into the 4th round or whatever - its pathetic. funny how a bit of starved success makes them so happy they might win this cup.

123spurs

One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour."

Little Dutch

Its pathetic but not quite as pathetic as you troll.

iceman10

It will be really devastating for poor Gibbs if its the metatarsal again. Hope its not, there have been no scans yet and am afraid Goonblog has been known to jump the gun on many occasions in the past.

Deltaforce

Hilarious to see the spuds suddenly changing their tune about the value of the CC. I don't think too many here are bothered if we win the CC or even get through the next round - it's still pretty low priority - just fun to enjoy the biggest away win in a NLD for 32 years. No special edition commemorative dvd's from us though.

Amos.

How is glichy still your first choice LB?

Chelsea24/7

Wilshire was great, but it's VDV you want on DVD, it'll be a different game when he's playing !! (I bloody hope it will be anyway!) Like the accompanying photo gag too!

The Horses Mouth

Good news for the spuds, they may have lost 4-1 but Guinness have confirmed a world record for most people in a conga. congrats.

iceman10

sad thing is, what your manager does is actually true

TPowell

yeah the structure of that joke was very weak, its almost like saying "I may have a drinking problem but at least I'm not a crack-head like you".

gronedrone

Haha ...i didn't even have to read the comments to this article to know what was being said :) Unlucky Spuds! Don't worry i'm sure you'll beat us again in like 10 years or something.

FuiKaka

the team that didnt play; Almunia, sagna, vermalen, squilacci, clichy fabregas,diaby song, walcott, vpersie, bendtner:.... for spurs fans saying arsenal played their strongest team

49ers

Debt paid in full and with interest..may I add. Ive been waiting for this day since that night. Its been a long time coming, but totally worth the wait.

Sajit

Debt paid in full and with interest..may I add. Ive been waiting for this day since that night. Its been a long time coming, but totally worth the wait.

Sajit

i love fabianski has he didn't let that goal in, we wouldn't get the chance to put 4 behind 'em. kos had great great game, apart from the yellow card, he was perfect! i am surprised with the quick change of his game since the first half at Blackburn ... Arsenal fans were MoM by country mile !!

Gooner SA

I was only hoping for the 5th goal also to go in, so that it would be poetic justice, but that was not to be. But still, a very very good performance. The Spuds got a true footballing lesson. I would like to hear from Wenger on the change of approach in fielding youngsters - I was hoping to see more of them, surprised to see the line up and the bench.

prits

To underline our dominance at WHL, we had 65% possession as the away side. That is really an astonishing stat against a team who are not a bad footballing side themselves. We had 20 shots on goal versus their 11. The only area we were bested were in terms of the number of fouls (23) and yellow cards (3) the Spuds conceded!

Look at the hypocrite Redknapp - before the game he cranks up the pressure on us saying that "I wouldn't want to be sitting in a position where the fans go- It was good, he played all the kids and didn't win nothing but he has a good youth team''. Cut to the scene after the thumping win for us and he says that the CC was about giving youth a chance and that they are a CL side who have bigger commitments. Tosser!

Deltaforce

Villa fan here, dropped by to post some props for this swift ass kicking. I'd bury my head in the sand if Birm.City ever did this to us and Spurs didnt belong on the same field today. Really enjoyed the game. Arsenal were clearly better in every category. Thought Redknapp came out of this looking like a huge public hypocrite...as if Arsenal aren't also a CL team with the same obligations that his team has, but they still managed to field a team without a bunch of regulars that HAMMERED you're second rate bench into the ground. Come off it Harry, you finish fourth one time and suddenly you're enough of a power to throw whoever you want out there in a competitive rivalry game? You wanna tote your CL obligations around like it justifies your poor coaching? Then why is your squad out there throwing away two goal leads like you did against Bremen?

JWiLs2315

49ers - Yes you had a few players out. But Spurs did too. Gomes, Cudicini, Kaboul, Corluka, Hutton, Gallas, King, Dawson, Bale, Modric, Huddlestone, Jenas, Kranjcar(most of the game), VdV, Defoe, Crouch. We also had loads of people making their debuts, Pletikosa, Sandro, Caulker, Livermore. Other kids making their first appearences for an age, Naughton, Giovani. Not only did we not play 16 of our first team players, we put in players that have not delivered for years and have been touted with moves away in the window, and i'm suprised they are still here - Bentley, Pavlyuchenko, Giovani. The only 3 players we played that are close to 1st team football were Palacios, Pavlyuchenko and Assou-Ekotto. That was the difference on the night. But you're players Wilshere, Nasri, Rosick played very well from the start, and with our very weak widemen, the ball just kept coming straight back at our very Young 4th choice RB, 5th choice CD Bassong, 6/7th choice CB Caulker, and Assou-Ekotto. And when you think that Naughton had Nasri, Wilshere, Rosicky, Arshavin, Gibbs to deal with for 2 hours, it was playing boys against men. And despite your dominance, i would still say the Ar5ena1 was better then the 4rsena1 last night. As we scored 5 goals in the run of play, without the assistance of poor balance from Nasri in extra time, to kick the game in the nuts.

mellowchaos

Boring. What about the stonewall penalty we should have had 1st half? The clear onside when Gibbs goes past the keeper? Had we been 3-0 up at half time we would have destroyed you with break aways the next 45. losing 4-1 AT HOME is never a good look, no excuses please.

iceman10

in fact i would say our first team would be - Gomes, Bale, King, Dawson, Corluka, Huddlestone, Modric, VdV, Lennon, Defoe, Crouch.-- 2nd team - Cudicini, BAE, Gallas, Kaboul, Hutton, Palacios, Jenas, Sandro, Rose, Kranjcar, Pavlyuchenko.-- 3rd team - Pletikosa, Cox, Caulker, Bassong, Nuaghton, O'Hara, Livermore, Giovani, Townsend, Bentley, Keane.-- Can you say that you had eight 3rd team players playing. With one coming off the bench? And the others coming from the 2nd team?

mellowchaos

My word, what's this - Wenger taking the Carling Cup seriously?

fifthcolumnblue

What about Djoure taking Keane out as last man and only getting a yellow?

mellowchaos

mellowchaos, you are clutching at straws here. Give it up, you were bested by a better side.

Deltaforce

I think that was clear last night. But from that team you fielded last night subs included- who would start against us in the League?

mellowchaos

Man In lillywhite shirt seen running from mcdonalds on Tottenham high road with a handfull of straws. When you beat us only Gallas, Sagna, Fabregas (who came on as Sub) and Adepaymemore (Who came on as sub) where 1st teamers, Justin Hoyte played centre back. 1st choice 7th choice whatever its a squad game and last year Rabid Keane said your squad was better than ours? Van der fart said your a bigger club? 4-1.

iceman10

How much did the team you started cost Mellow? Compare it to how much our starting line up cost and you will see why we dont give a monkeys about your excuses.

iceman10

Fair play gooners..... You played better on the night - or was it we just played p*ss poor - not sure on that one? haha. Anyways, wasn't overly bothered about the cup but just losing to scum.... least you didn't get 5 hey. Bring it on in the league ....

COYS...!

some of the comments on here are a ******** joke, we beat you 5-1 and everyone was on about how it was your reserves even though on that night we played with a few 1st teamers missining too. Last night we fielded an unrecognisable team which you couldnt even call a 3rd team, you beat us and you think you are the dogs. ***** off you tossers.

arpant

The answer to your question iceman is £70million. If that's a 3rd choice team, Spurs are more Man City than Man City!

navydave

Pletikosa £0 - Naughton £3m, Caulker £0, Bassong £8m, BAE £2.5m. Sandro £6m, Livermore £0, Palacios £12m, Giovani £4m, Bentley £15m, Pavlyuchenko £13m, Lennon £750k, Kranjcar £2.5m. Keane (We actually made £8m profit withhis Lpool fiasco). I make that to be £65m- Keane's 8m profir 57m pounds. -- Arsenal lineup . Fabiaski £ 3.5m, Eboue £1.5m, Kosiencky £8m, Djoure £0, Gibbs £0, Wilshere £0, Nasri £12m, Rosicky £8m, Lansbury 0, Vela £2m, Denilson £3m, Arshavin £17m, Chamakh £0, Clichy £250k. - £55million.

mellowchaos

Navydave - How did you get 70million?

mellowchaos

arpant, chill out. Imagine if a tosser like you had a result against us like we did against you last night - you would gloat far more than we are doing.

Deltaforce

mellow, Rosicky cost 6.7 million pounds, Arshavin cost 15 million pounds. Anyway, what is the point of all this research now, the game is over and your own discerning fans have graciously accepted that we won fair and square.

Deltaforce

You feck off skidpants, its our site and we will laugh if we want to :)

iceman10

congrats gooners, as much as it pains me to say but you deserved it and wanted it more on the night. Wilshire ran the show!

cb25Yid

Arpant, we're laughing it up because when we tried to explain to you that our side was under strength when you whooped us you told us to stop crying and take it on the chin. So we're getting revenge on more than one front ;)

Rocky7

Exclusive pictures from Arsenals training ground prior to the Spurs game last night, must be seen to be believed - http://www.langsskiandscuba.com/DSC00033.JPG

DazzaTHFC

Best dive of the game was Rabid Keane trying to get Djourou sent off or was it Ekotto lying on the ground feigning injury when Lord Eboue robbed him of the ball? Must try harder DozyTHFC.

iceman10

Great fun watching some spuds trying to pretend they weren't really trying. Sporting Life shows the costs of the 2 squads as:

Spuds: Pletikosa £0, Ekotto £3.5m, Bassong £8m, Naughton £3m, Bentley £15m, Palacios £12m, Sandro £8m, Pubplayerchenko £13.8m, Giovani £4.7m starting XI £67.9m The Arsenal: Fabianski £2.5m, Djourou £0, Eboue £1m, Gibbs £0, Koscienly £9.7m, Denilson £3.4m, Nasri £15.8m, Lansbury £0, Wlishere £0, Rosicky £6.8m, Vela £0.55m (after 50 games) starting XI £39.75m. Spud bench Keane £12m, Kranjcar, £2.5m, Lennon £1m, Jenas £7m, Huddlestone £2.5m (cheap per lb. !) Hutton £9m and Cudicini £0. Total bench £34m. Arsenal bench: Clichy £0.25m, Arshavin £15m, Chamakh £0, Almunia £0.5m, Sagna £6m, Jet £0, Eastmond £0. Total Arsenal bench £21.75m. Total Arsenal game squad £61.5m. Total Spud squad cost for the game £111.9m.

Amos.

Nasri's MOTM throphy - http://www.trophiesandmedals.com/@@content/pub/image_2852/OJ015_lrg_56253.jpg

DazzaTHFC

The only diving in that game Dazza was the hordes of spuds diving for the exits after 95 minutes. I think they deserve your trophy far more.

Amos.

Amos... seriously you need to get a life.

COYS...!

Come on Amos!! are you seriously going to defend that 1st pen dive? Wenger bemoans constantly about Arsenals rough treatment by the Stokes and Blackburns of this world because it's tech cheating yet when his team dive to win games thats not considered cheating? your line up was a much stronger one then ours yet you still had to resort to cheating fact

DazzaTHFC

Thanks Amos! I have to admit..... my info came from SSnews. I didn't have time to add them all up to try and prove a point.

navydave

Dazza, saying "fact" doesn't make you sound any smarter. There was definite contact between Bassong and Nasri. A dive is defined as taking a tumble when there is NO contact. Hope you have the bandwidth to absorb this little..er, fact. Also, dont hide your head in the sand, you got lucky with Keane's goal - it was offisde. You got lucky with Gibbs offside call. The match last night was no match - you were outmatched.

Deltaforce

Dazza, seriously, I know your hurting but please......... you're making yourself look ridiculous. Every argument you mugs have made to justify getting raped in your back garden has been slammed in you face. Lick your wounds and we'll see you in November!

navydave

Wenger bemoans rough play because players get injured as a consequence. Fact is that Bassong had hold of Nasri's shirt. No one made Bassong put a hand on him. Take the risk and take the consequences. As for cheating I didn't notice Keane telling the linesman he was offside.

Amos.

"A dive is defined as taking a tumble when there is NO contact" Oh like the famous Pires and Eduado dives then?? add that to Nasri's last night! you give me one example where a Spurs player took a tumble and won a pen in the last 5 seasons? Dirty Arsenal! its always been that way and always will, you play some great football but you're like the devil dressed up as the easter bunny FACT

DazzaTHFC

the spuds shud have been down to 9 mine, both the penalties were given by the last defender. quite how the ref didnt produce the red i cannot understand. but well and truly raped, spanked, *****ed, this is a kickass night of football..

luckys_10

Not to mention the persistent kicking of Wilshere (especially in the first half)!

navydave

DazzaTHFC thats a good attempt to divert the attention from your ***** poor squad, manager, tactics and the club on the whole. we came to your ground, played yu off the park, knocked you out and did that in some style. and if holding someone back by pulling the shirt is not a foul, then yu need some serious help!!

luckys_10

Dozy THFC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmxm0ArnCLg

iceman10

Hasn't Gibbs broke a bone too?? Brittle little kids.

COYS...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO4Ajmg4d8s

iceman10

You were chasing the shadows of the brittle kids all night COYS...! you should know.

Deltaforce

Even if Nasri had stayed on his feet it should still have been a penalty. You can't wrap your arm around a player in the penalty area and expect not to be penalised for it if the ref sees it. There were plenty of dodgy decisions that went spuds way in that game. Crying now is just pathetic.

Amos.

DazzaTHFC, I'll agree with you in one regard. Our team certainly was much stronger than yours. It showed for the whole 90 mins. It's just a shame for you lot that Mallet Head went mouthing off about how much stronger your squad is than ours.

Little Dutch

Its getting desperate on VS, they are now moaning about how we celebrated the goals, saying we look like tw*ts. This from a team with Robbie Keane in it.

iceman10

out of topic : another stoke victim http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/46572.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

Gooner SA

Hughes is on the other end of a bad tackle this time with his most promising striker Dembele out for some time. Stoke are even worse than Blackburn or Bolton when it comes to mugging their opponents. Their players seem to have graduated from karate school and not from a football academy.

Deltaforce

luckys_10 poor squad?? Are you kidding me? FIRST TEAM Gomes.Kaboul,Dawson,King,Bale, Lennon, Modric, VDV,Huddlestone,Crouch Defoe - SECOND TEAM Cudicini,Corluka, Gallas, Woodgate, BAE, Bentley, Jenas, Palacios,Kranjcar, Keane Pavlychenko - THIRD TEAM (how many started Y/day??) Pletikosa, Naughton, Bassong, Caulker, Walker, Sandro, OHara, Rose, Livermore, Dos Santos, Obika, we have one of the best squads in the league so try harder with that one! in truth we lost yesterday because our squad balance wasn’t right playing Sandro, Livermore and Palacious in the same team left Pav isolated and kept us on the back foot, but it speaks volumes about how much priority Harry gave the game last night, that’s not to say I as the fan didn’t give a toss about the CC because I would have loved another trip to Wembley but you could see Wenger wanted it more then Harry. For all the possession you had in the 90 mins you created F.All and still had to cheat to win the game FACT

DazzaTHFC

You cheated just to stay in the game FACT FACT FACT.

iceman10

Little Dutch Mallet head? have you seen Chamakh?? I still think our squad is well on par at the very least to yours, Y/day didnt prove anything as you selected a much more expirienced and high quality side then we did and it was still 1.1 90mins untill that dive of course

DazzaTHFC

Dazza, you are embarassing not just yourself but thousands of bright and sober yids all over the country with your inane twaddle.

Deltaforce

From the spuds 2nd team DOZY gave us 5 of them started the champions league game with Bremen, he is either deluded or lying.

iceman10

Deltaforce - maybe in your and other bias Goons eyes, but then again maybe I think your all embarrassing yourselves too with your blatant hypocrisy! When we done you 5.1 it was "the worthless cup" "Tin Pot trophy" but of course now that we were on the end of a hiding it's the bee's knees!! Not to mention you achieved it all by cheating to win a decisive penalty! FACT

DazzaTHFC

iceman10 Yes you nob because players in the first team were injured! IE Gomes, Dawson Defoe Modric so players from the second team stepped in. are you stupid?

DazzaTHFC

Corluka, Ekotto 1st choice week in week out FACT. Jenas and Palacios played because Arry changed formation FACT, Its a squad game FACT. You are a massive nob barking up the wrong tree FACT.

iceman10

Lol!

Deltaforce

Palacious didnt start at WB FACT, Kaboul has eclipsed Corluka FACT, the fact that neither Kaboul or Corluka played last night makes that point irrelevent anyway FACT, if Spurs had no injurys Bale would replace BAE and Modric and VDV would play in midfield with Huddlestone (Not a certain FACT but I know how good our players are more then some Goon like you) Your manager talks about rough treatment and cheating yet since he's been in charge only Blackburn hav had more red cards FACT, your team dive and cheat to win games FACT

DazzaTHFC

DozyTHFC's indignation is one of the funniest contributions from a spud on this site for some time. It's the football forum equivalent of watching that spud kid crying at the game. You can sense the deep humiliating hurt but can't help laughing all the same.

Amos.

We don't think the CC is the bees knees, infact unless we draw United or Chelsea in the next round I'm sure we wouldn't be overly gutted/delighted if we got knocked out. And yes, we picked a much more experienced and high quality side than you ..... BECAUSE OUR SQUAD IS MORE EXPERIENCED AND HIGH QUALITY. ARE WE GETTING THROUGH TO YOU NOW?

Rocky7

You keep saying we cheated to win a game. The first penalty could be a matter of contention possibly, but what is not debatable is that Gibbs was wrongly flagged offside, that would have been a goal, Keane was a mile offside, that shouldn't have been a goal. So if all the decisions are correct we pagger you, if not (but they remained equal) we still pagger you. The jig is up baby!

Rocky7

To coin a phrase from forum user UB, Dozy is just somebody who is wrong on the internet.

iceman10

Rocky7 we cant be accountable for refereeing decisions but Nasri actually cheated am I getting through to you? and Amos watching Henry take on our whole team and score to make it 3.0 and the canyon sized gap between the sides at that moment was humiliating! finishing 5pts behind you and having class players like VDV and Bale in our side now you wont see me crying my friend!!

DazzaTHFC

The rules state that if you pull a shirt a free kick shall be awarded, if it's in the box, a penalty. So whilst Nas went down fairly easily, it is still a penalty, like it or not, thems the rules. My point about the decisions that went against us is, that you're making out like we needed to cheat to win, yet we didn't, we only needed the ref to get things right to slaughter you.

Rocky7

I can see you crying throughout this thread Dozy - it's pretty much all you've done. Aren't you forgetting the humiliation of Cesc sashaying through your whole defence from the half way line in our 3-0 win last season while your class players spent the entire game playing hoofball? Or the humilation of watching us win the title at WHL a couple of times. Or as we picked up a few titles and doubles since you last won a title a half a century ago. No-one blames you for crying - heaven knows you've had an awful lot to cry about.

Amos.

Class players like VDV, last seen bench warming for Holland and Real Madrid, previous club Hamburg. Bale has had a good year but no better than Lennon's good form last year and look at him now. Same old Spuds, why not wait and see if this players produce week in week out for a few seasons before you hail them as demi gods?

iceman10

Rocky7- would Nasri go down so easily in the street? would he have even gone down? No?? so he took a tumble then right? Amos.- Was that the same game we were missing our 3 best players? maybe it was you who was crying when your season ended at WHL last season??? Iceman10 - Do me a favour!!Firstly I didnt mention demi god at all Bale has been in sinsilating form for nearly a year how long should I wait? I mean it hasnt taken your mob long to hail Vermaelen as the best CB in the prem roughly the same timeframe I think so people in glass houses...... Maybe this will remind you just how class VDV actually is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEaI8jEJq2U

DazzaTHFC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE2pQvAjCVQ

iceman10

iceman10 LMAO! credit for that!

DazzaTHFC

I will take your credit and end the hostilities, good day to you :)

iceman10

For the umpteenth time it doesn't matter whether Nasri went down or not Bassong still fouled him. Come to think of it VDV went down in the box a little too easily in that clip! He's not much of a thoroughbred when it comes to pace then! You weren't missing any defenders in that game Dozy though it's true they did go missing when Cesc waltzed by them so maybe you have a point.

Amos.

Amos - Talking of missing players where was your goalie when Rose hit that screamer?

DazzaTHFC

About a foot below the ball. But there's the difference between the supporters. Nobody here spent the time over at VS whining about the result when we lost that you've spent here crying over getting a spanking last night. I know it was the biggest away win in a NLD for 32 years and must hurt a little I suppose but it's not as though it's unknown territory for you. Big up and take it like a man.

Amos.

Your an optimist Amos - "Big up and take it like a man!" That is so not going to happen.

LondonGooner

Crying? i'm stating facts!! OK Amos live in your little bubble, You lot gave our strongest squad a football lesson, Nasri didn’t dive and that Bassong challenge should earn him a season long ban, us Spurs fans should thank Arsenal for such a wonderful display and how dare us for even contemplating challenging your lofty standards following the game all Spurs fans should see the light and convert to Arsenal and we can now demolish WHL and build an Ian Wright statue in his honour! Happy?

DazzaTHFC

As the article says debt paid in full but shame you had to rob the bank to pay it

DazzaTHFC

Well you're on the right lines Dozy but taking it to excess as usual. That wasn't your strongest squad and it wasn't our strongest squad either but yours was still an older squad put together for more than £100m. Nasri was fouled and a penalty correctly given - no need to spend anymore time on that than the two offside decisions and a penalty shout that went in your favour in normal time. As for White Hart Landfill demolishing it would be an improvement even if nothing was put in its place. Never mind the pain will pass eventually - but not for a while yet :)

Amos.

as I said before we cannot be blamed for refereeing decisions, yet when Samir Nasri dives on the floor like he’s been shot as soon as he felt bassongs ndolé stew breath on his neck is considered CHEATING! And don’t deny that your beloved Gooners do cheat regularly or I will be sending you Youtube clips of Eduado Vs Celtic and Pires Vs Pompy, How the mighty have fallen by the way only 6 or so years ago you lot were celebrating a title winning season yet now you feel you won the world cub because you beat a side that made 9 changes to an already injury hit side not to mention playing 6 first teamers and cheating to achieve it!! enjoy your celebration because in the last 5 years we have significantly improved and you are in decline and thats a fact you cant dispute!!

DazzaTHFC

5 years ago you were eating out of bins, now you're in the soup kitchen. An improvement, yes, but nothing to boast about amongst seasoned caviar eaters.

Little Dutch

Cheating is pulling someones shirt and wrapping his arm around him in the penalty area. No need to send clips of eduardo as those were viewed at great length by the Fifa disciplinary panel and he was found not guilty - as you like to say that's a fact. iceman has already posted a clip of one of your players with a blatant dive in the penalty area against Pompey and far more recently than Pires so no point wasting any more time on that. How is it a fact that we have declined in the last 5 years and you have improved. The closest you came to us was 5 seasons ago. The points gap hasn't been any closer in the 4 season since. You might have improved last season but as you'd spent much of the previous 2 or 3 seasons in the relegation zone that wasn't such a tough ask. Consistently over the last 5 years our worst has been better than your best and looking at the ease with which our reseverses p1ssed all over yours it doesn't look like changing anytime soon. It's all best to leave the boasting until after you've actually done something worth boasting about. That's another fact for you.

Amos.

Where in the rules does it say that a player has to be dragged to the floor by his shirt for it to be a penalty? It doesn't. It doesn't matter if Nasri did a triple back flip with double pike, he had his shirt pulled and that, is an infringment. Like it or not, it doesn't matter, those are the rules, and they were both penalties.

Rocky7

And don’t deny that your beloved Gooners do cheat regularly or I will be sending you Youtube clips of Eduado Vs Celtic and Pires Vs Pompy, DazzaTHFC - How does two dives (Pires yes, Eduardo, was brought down by the GK and milked it) in 6 years constitute regular diving - retard.

LondonGooner

In decline? LOL That's a classic, please define the term decline and how it is appropriate to us? Considering last year we finished a place ahead of the previous season. Your still clutching at straws and becomming increasingly illogical and desperate as this thread goe son. Face it, your team got bitch slapped, you lost, even with plenty of help from the referee and you've taken it badly (like most fans would, although your stickability is to be commended - I think?). Give it a few day's and you'll feel right as rain again.

LondonGooner

LondonGooner that was two examples that spring to mind - If its praise you’re needy Goons require then well done for beating a Spurs side vastly made up of our 3rd string including 2 youth players and 5 players making their first appearances of the season. IMO you did it with the aid of cheating and obviously we dont share that opinion, I'm vastly outnumbered on this site (obviously) which is why your arguments stick more then mine, and we could bring up useless trivia all night my argument based on last night remains the same - 1. Arsenal beat an unrecognisable Spurs side with many more first team regulars then we fielded 2. Arsenal achieved that win by a game changing penalty which was a direct result of a dive by Samir Nasri which is technically cheating 3. Arsenal fans then celebrated that win as if it was the World Cup Yes and if you dress a sheep up as a rabbit it will appear to be a rabbit…… My points linger no matter how you dress it up, so congrats on the “win” but the facts still remain so I wont be losing any sleep. And yes it did hurt cant deny that same hurt you prob felt last season, it's been a pleasure, no sarcasm loved the banter. I would wish you all the best for the season but you know I wouldnt mean it ;)

DazzaTHFC

You can have your own opinions Dazza .... but you can't have you own facts. Shirt pull = Penalty. FACT.

Rocky7

Rocky last nite excluded when was the last time you saw a pen given for that amount of min contact?

DazzaTHFC

My points linger DazzaTHFC - The only thing that lingers is your in ability to realise that Nasri didn't ask Bassong to pull his shirt and wrap his arm half way round him, the foul and penalty was committed even before Nasri went to ground, there fore the penalty was not as a result of Nasri's falling down, but of Bassong's actions. That is such a simple explanation, even you must be able to understand linear time and the theories behind it. The FA rule book states that shirt pulling is a crime punishable by a penalty when committed in the penalty area, did Bassong pull Nasri's shirt? Yes. Was it in the penalty area? Yes. Was it a penalty? Yes. These are cold hard facts and you cannot dispute them. Well you can, and probably will, but you are still completely in the wrong and the more you argue against such blindingly obvious accuracies the more ridiculous you make yourself seem.

LondonGooner

Plenty of times. There can made no acceptions made for shirt pulling (as in amount of time the player has hold of the shirt) because then the rule would be left open to interpretation, and we all know how well that works. It doesn't matter how minimal or how soft, he grabbed his shirt so therefore it is a penalty. If you have issue with the rules then take it up with FIFA or the FA, don't blame it on Nasri. Next time your players might think twice before grabbing a handful of shirt.

Rocky7

Dazza, you have a spectacular lack of self awareness. Sorry to break it to you but you are quite ignorant! Most of your arguments and points are just plain wrong. There can only be a debate among us and no resolution because we have vastly different viewpoints and powers of reasoning. Why dont you talk to some of your own spurs supporting mates and figure out if the things you mention as "FACTS" are really that or not.

Deltaforce

Has Dazza seen these stats reg Spu*s "weaker" side? Average league appearences for Spu*s 11 + 3 subs 168 games, average league appearences dfor Arsenal's starting 11 + 3 subs 134 games, on average, the Arsenal players were 9 months younger not to mention the above Spuddies players cost over £40 million more. Gingers4Limpar is the source.

LondonGooner

Rocky - You keep questioning my “facts” yet all I keep reading on this site is how Bassong pulled Nasri’s shirt, he actually simply touched Nasri’s chest and didn’t appear to pull his shirt at all, add that to the fact that Nasri himself stopped one space short of admitting he dived by telling Bassong he barely touched him!! Delta – “spectacular lack of self awareness” What are you on about? This is a football blog divided opinions are very expected but being as it’s an Arsenal blog your bound to be bias against my opinion. LondonGooner - Spurs’ strongest XI regardless of transfer fee is argubly Gomes, Corluka, Dawson, King, Bale, Huddlestone, Van Der Vaart, Lennon, Modric, Crouch & Defoe – Only one of the above featured as a half time sub however Koscielny, Rosicky, Nasri, Arshavin, Chamakh & Clichy all featured for you – You do the maths

DazzaTHFC

Oh and Little Duchess- I didn’t realise that there was only a 5point gap between the soup kitchen and the caviar table, that a very small restaurant!!!

DazzaTHFC

But it's still one you're desperately gawping through the window at, desperate to come into. Maybe we'll save you some bread, eh?

Little Dutch

Oh and btw, happy golden jubilee. 50 years since you were crowned. There'll be street parties all over Edmonton I'm sure.

Little Dutch

LondonGooner - Spurs’ strongest XI regardless of transfer fee DazzaTHFC - No, you are wrong it isn't regardless of transfer fee it is inclusive of transfer fee, experience, age, games played and on that front, your fans excuses ring hollow.

LondonGooner

Dazza - "didn’t appear to pull his shirt at all" Appear? He did, we've all seen it and he did. Yourglasses are either broken or too rose tinted to se ethe truth. Either way it's your look out. I also seriously doubt whether an Arsenal player would try and placate a Spu*s defender in a tense north London derby by basically admitting "I dived", when he didn't. it sounds ike another false truth from the ever increaingly desperate sounding Spu*s camp.

LondonGooner

Par example: Robbie Keane - We are better than Arsenal now. Jermain Defoe - We'll go further than Arsenal in Europe this season. Harry Redknapp - We can win the league. Peter Crouch - We'll finish ahead of Arsenal this season. VDV - We're a bigger club than Arsenal. Do you need anymore examples of your clubs idiotic statements? Got to love their club, they talk about us more than they talk about themselves.

LondonGooner

Oh and btw, happy golden jubilee. 50 years since you were crowned. There'll be street parties all over Edmonton I'm sure. Little Dutch - A celebratory DVD is just round the corner, I'm sure.

LondonGooner

Poor Dozy - he does sound desperately in need of some reassurance that everything is ok doesn't he! Never mind - it was only the biggest away win in a NLD for 32 years - pity you didn't have any better players to put out but having spent more than £100m on the squad you had you did the best you could I suppose.

Amos.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/28/robbie-keane-tottenham-hotspur-arsenal

Little Dutch

LondonGooner- Thought I would do a little google search of Arsenal winning the league and behold...."Arsenal will win the league"- Van Persie 2006, Arsene Wenger has confidently predicted that his team "can win" the Champions League this season because "we want it." Wenger 2007, "Arsene Wenger claims Arsenal can win double"-2008, "If we dont wint the league this season I will stop playing football" - Adebayor 2008, Arsenal will win title- Silvestre 2008, Arsenal kids can win Champions League - Manuel Almunia 2009, Emmanuel Eboue Believes Arsenal Can Win Champions League - Eboue 2009, Arsenal Can Win The Champions League - Abou Diaby 2009, Arsenal can win the Champions League, says Thomas Vermaelen - 2009, Wenger: I'm 'Crazy'; Arsenal Can Win Premier League 2009, Arsenal can win Champions League at Wembley, says Bacary Sagna‎ 2010, Diaby - We can win title‎ 2010. Google it yourself it's quite sad yet funny at the same time! embarrassing when your teams players talk crap isn't it? Glass houses and all that

DazzaTHFC

The point you're missing there Dozy is that your players quotes largely measure their achievements relative to us. We're better than Arsenal, go further than Arsenal, bigger than Arsenal, finish ahead of Arsenal et c., et c., all players will talk up their clubs ambitions but few are as obsessive about what another club does as your lot are. It's embarrassing that 24 hours later you are still here unable to come to terms with the biggest away win in a NLD for 32 years. It must have hurt a lot more than I would've thought it should. Time to for you to grab a corner of your little blanket in one hand, stick the thumb of the other in your mouth and lie down, sucking your thumb quietly until it all goes away.

Amos.

Amos if I had my way the Spurs players would be banned from mentioning Arsenal, just like im sure if you had your way you wouldn’t have practically every player in your squad talking about how your going to win this, your going to win that when you end up potless year after year, you see our players quotes as delusional well I see your players quotes as equally delusional, to state that your even close to the quality to finish ahead of United, Chelsea is hilarious but to also think your better then Barca, Madrid & Inter is plain stupid. VDV said what he said to earn brownie points with his new fans any fool can see that, and most of the other quotes are spun by the media and you lot should know better then most how that works, so to try and mock us for it is dumb! And in reality Arsenal are the next step for spurs surely? Either we finish 4th and stand still, finish lower and go backwards or finish third and progress right? And im still here not because you cheated to turn over our reserves but because you lot go on like your football gods, when compared to Manure and Chelsea your *****, the table don’t lie we aren’t on your level yet because we haven’t finished above you but if you think there is a gulf you just as delusional as your arrogant frog eating manager! FACT

DazzaTHFC

DazzaTHFC - So where in that rather sad list of quotes does an Arsenal player compare us to your club? Oh, that's right, they don't.

LondonGooner

I think you upset him Amos lol

LondonGooner

Why not set an example to your players by banning yourself from mentioning us then? It would be delusional if we were to claim that we could win the title if we hadn't won it for 50 years. We finished within 4 points of the title in one of those seasons you took your quotes from and were in with at least an outside shout until late into last season. We invariably reach the semi-finals or quarter-finals stages of the CL so we mount a credible challenge for one or other of those trophies each year. But then why would it bother you whether we mount a challenge or not? I, and most others here, don't give a moment’s thought to what the spuds do or don't do in a season until we meet you in competition. Except of course when we are compelled to endure obsessive, neurotic deluded spuds like yourself spending far too much time here trying to get some small words of comfort from your far, far, far more successful neighbours to reassure you that you aren't as crap as you fear you are after yet another ritual humiliation.

Amos.

By the way dozy - it looks as though you've got a few on your own side that need some convincing about how brilliant your lot are: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7505863. A delusionists job is never done it seems.

Amos.

LG- Like I said your players claims that your gonna win everything is as deluded as our players saying we’ve eclipsed you, or do I need to write slower for you to understand? Amos - There you go generalising again there was a recent article on Vital Spurs discussing Arjan Robben’s comments about how Spurs have a better squad then Arsenal and there was about 200 odd comments from Spurs fans saying how much we couldn’t give a toss what arsenal are doing and we just wanted to maintain our progression, Let me categorically state that I don’t measure Spurs progress on how we compare to Arsenal, NEWSFLASH – YOU AINT SO GREAT! Don’t you get that? Apart from consolidating top 4 you guys have done ***** all for over half a decade, there isn’t any players left from your successful squad don’t you realise that? If all your squad were to systematically retire tomorrow they would have achieved nothing at club level!! You lot go on like your Barca or something WAKE UP! Now imp not saying that Spurs have done much either but we don’t go on like were totalling gods yet were the one who get labelled delusional, Double standards?

DazzaTHFC

Amos maybe you should call yourself dozy considering I actually dont think Spurs are footballing gods like you think Arsenal are!!

DazzaTHFC

Why should it matter to you whether we think we're great or not? Why should you care if you don't care more about us than is really healthy for you? You're making yourself look more obsessive and sillier with every post. The taunt that we haven't won a trophy for 5 years, despite challenging for them in that time might carry some weight if made by a Chav or a Manc but coming from a club that hasn't won a title in 50 years - half a century ago - during which time we've collected more trophies than you've ever won - then it's pretty delusional. Anyway I notice that Man City ended closer to you last season than you did to us so shouldn't you be looking over your shoulders?

Amos.

Funny you should mention that Amos is it a coincidence that Wenger entered the transfer market so enthusiastically breaking the trend of the past few years and practically got on his knees to beg Fibreglass to stay? Or is he too looking over his shoulder at Spurs and City?

DazzaTHFC

You're not too bright then Dozy. There hasn't been a summer transfer window when Wenger hasn't bought players in the transfer market and there was no need to beg Fabregas to stay it was enough just to tell him he had to. But anyway if as you say you 'couldn’t give a toss what arsenal are doing' why are so keen to show so much concern about who we buy or who stays or who goes? Do you really not see how much you are just craving acceptance here? Can't you see how pathetically needy you come across as? Don't worry the pain will go away soon enough - and anyway at least we can both agree that spuds are not footballing gods - more footballing gonads going by the other nights performance. Still seems a bit of a sore spot over at VS too - maybe you're just here to hide from it all really.

Amos.

Craving acceptance? Pathetically needy? For commenting on a football blog? get a grip mate!! YOU BEAT OUR RESERVES I commented on here to politely inform your VA mob that in no way does cheating to beat our reserves justify payback for us ending your season last year, infact you lot were the ones who brought up past achievements! Did you not? And well done I salute you I even admitted that we were miles away from arsenal in terms of quality at the time you were picking up them trophies, I also admitted we haven’t proved that we are quite at your level due to us finishing 5pts off you, what I will state is though right now you have no players left from your recent glory days and the crop of players you have now are very similar to the quality we have, and that’s a fact whether you like it or not, your response to that is to bring up success in the late 90’s early 00’s to counter me but I’m actually giving you that as recent as the Jol era we were still quite some way off you now we are not and your mob hate it, the fact that we are so close in terms of quality is also the underlying reason that most spurs fans no longer target eclipsing Arsenal as a target as it would be a small improvement like it or not that’s the way it is, so get with the times and stop crowing over the past

DazzaTHFC

Daz, let it go mate, we didn't cheat. You are the only person apart from Bassong who thinks we cheated. It's boring and totally inaccurate, your ego just won't let it go though.

LondonGooner

LondonGooner - Lets put the cheating to one side for one second, you still beat our reserves however you dress it up thats what happened, So why go on like you won the world cup?

DazzaTHFC

You've commented on this thread what 25 times or so? To tell us what precisely? That you don't think that we are as good as we think we are despite not being in any position to know how good we think we are? You say you aren't bringing up past achievements but came here to tell us that us giving you are royal spanking doesn't make up for your past achievement in beating us in the league for the first time in 9 years. What is that if it isn't you harking back to past achievements? It's not a fact that you are as good as we are it's an opinion and it remains an opinion unless and until you can prove otherwise no matter how many times you include the word fact in your claims. You're the one anxious to insist that you are improving based on one season of success compared to several seasons of mediocrity. Well here's a tip how about you seeing how many seasons you can sustain this improvement before proclaiming yet another dawn of spud resurgence which may or may not end up all too familiarly in dismal failure. Nobody here gives a toss whatever you do - you seem to care far too much whether we care or not. By and large we don't hate you for any success you may have (just for being utterly deluded tosspots) - on the contrary you've provided great entertainment for many years as each time your pompous over inflated sense of your own importance has all too often been punctured. As in the biggest away win in a NLD derby for 32 years for example. But really we just don't care - you really don't matter.

Amos.

I love this bleating about beating reserves. You do realise that excluding players that played on Tuesday, we didn't send out a starting XI of...... Sagna-Scuilacci-Song-Vermaelen-Diaby-Ramsey-Fabregas-Bendtner-Van Persie-Walcott? Would you rather have played those XI? hahaha

TPowell

Who is going on like we won the world cup? Me? I have only commented on teh quality yof your team and the "cheating" issue. I haven't actually mentioned anything about the result in terms of what it means. I have only taken umbridge at your ludicrous and false accusations of cheating, in the main. Maybe you should buy some glasses and read back through my posts....?

LondonGooner

TPowell So it was a reserve game including Rosicky,Koscielny,Clichy,Arshavin and Nasri :) Amos, as much as I think I have valid arguments I will admit your right in your last post, and if you lot want to walk about in your footballing gods bubble who am I to tell you any different and yes quite rightly it is opinion at this point to a certain degree, loved the banter and we'l speak again in November!!

DazzaTHFC

Sorry Amos, I must of missed the last point you made about the 4rsena1 v Spu*s match and it's scoreline's historical significance......would you care to elaborate.....again please! lol

LondonGooner

LondonGooner - I had 25 wall posts on Facebook from gooner mates trust me you thought you won the world cup, anyway we could be here all week, I still think you cheated to beat our reserves and nothings gonna make me change my mind, as I said it's been fun see you in November

DazzaTHFC

Ofcourse nothing will change the nincompoops brain because he doesn't have any. A fan of a team which has beaten us just once in the league in a decade, hasn't won the league in 49 years and hasn't ever played in the CL before this year thinks he is on a par with us! This would be hilarious if one weren't concerned about a fellow human being's mental health.

Deltaforce

Did....did someone actually just use their facebook page as a social barometer and seriously try and dress it up as a cogent argument? I have literally just face palmed.

Little Dutch

"...and nothings gonna make me change my mind" - The most reasonable thing you've said in this whole thread.

gronedrone

LOL @ LittleDutch. Facebook sucks piles.

LondonGooner

Deltaforce CURRENT SQUAD!! yes agreed you've had a better team for 40 odd years, just not now, get it now??

DazzaTHFC

LD dressing things up again? look back at my 25 odd comments for my ARGUMENT the FB thing was just a general comment

DazzaTHFC

I've seen all 25 of your posts, but see no sign of an argument. Just some wild flailing. To use one of your favourite phrases, here are some FACTS from Tuesday: Cost of Sp*rs team: £92.1m Cost of Arsenal team: £47.425m Average age of Sp*rs team: 24 years 9 months Average age of Arsenal team: 24 years and 3 months Cumulative appearances of Sp*rs team: 2,775 Cumulative appearances of Arsenal team: 2,248 Youngest player on pitch: Jack Wilshere Player with least senior appearances: Jack Wilshere. Goals scored by Sp*rs: 1 Goals scored by Arsenal: 4

Little Dutch

Seems Nasri reckons Bassong is a cheat: “I can’t understand why there has been a debate about our first penalty on Tuesday night. Look on television. Bassong pulled my shirt, it was a blatant penalty and the referee gave it. It’s as simple as that.” Typical spud behaviour from Bassong not to man up.

Amos.

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