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Arsenal 2 Tottenham Hotspur 3

It`s a shame my hard drive died before I had the opportunity to publish my match report from the Everton game. There was a fair bit of anger and disillusionment in it that might have seemed unbefitting for a hard fought 2-1 away win. The main source of my chagrin was that at Goodison Park, Arsenal, who had played so well for 80 minutes, completely stopped playing for the last ten minutes. At the time I put this recurring habit of ceasing to play at 2-0 as self congratulation and smugness. Yesterday has changed my mind on that. With the early kick off, pre match drinks were off the menu and we headed straight for the ground. The atmosphere built right from the off. Retrospectively I have seen that Nasri avoided Gallas for the ritual pre match handshake. Gallas has a reputation for being flaky and soft in the head. Yet on that occasion, Nasri was the one who was childish and let petty matters go to his head. In hindsight, it`s perhaps not so difficult to see why Nasri was completely and utterly burnt out after 30 minutes. He expended his energies in the wrong direction and ran around like a blue arsed fly trying to get one over on Gallas. Gallas merely played the game and played well. Food for thought for Arsenal fans that had allowed themselves to believe that Gallas was the flakiest character in Christendom.

Arsenal appeared to repeat a mistake Tottenham often used to make against us by starting a game so quickly that they burned themselves out. After thirty seconds Fabregas slipped a delightful ball with the outside of his right foot to Nasri, whose progress to goal was impeded by a superb last ditch tackle from Gallas. But after 9 minutes, the same combination would put Arsenal into the lead. Nasri began to steam away from Assou Ekotto and Fabregas picked him out with a sumptuous ball over the top of the Spurs defence. Nasri didn`t quite take the ball cleanly, but Gomes stayed rooted to the spot for a second too long, allowing Nasri to fumble the ball past him and squeeze the ball in from an impossible angle when well off balance. The Gunners were in their stride and Fabregas, the chief orchestrator, almost made it 2-0 when he collected Song`s pass, flicked the ball around Younes Kaboul but then dragged his shot wide as he spun in the area. But the home side were soon 2-0 up, Tottenham over committed to attack on what was proving to be an incredibly open game. Arsenal countered with Denilson finding Fabregas, Cesc sent a searching pass wide to Arshavin and the diminutive Russian sent in an early left foot cross which Marouane Chamakh bundled past Gomes.

At this stage, Tottenham were there for the taking, with the RedSection indulging a rousing chorus of "North London is ours, North London is ouuuuurs, **** off to Stratford, North London is ours." The "we won the league at White Hart Lane" chant was given that annoying, slow treatment that Tottenham fans give to their "when the Spurs go marching in" chant. Arsenal had a chance to go three nil clear when Cesc played Chamakh in, but he infuriatingly checked back when he could have made a beeline for goal. It was a mistake, like so many of Arsenal`s mistakes, which would be repeated soon enough. Nevertheless 2-0 at half time was satisfying enough, but I still had anxiety gnawing at the nape of my neck. There was a point in about the 40th minute when Arsenal committed seven players to attack. Fabregas, Arshavin and Nasri didn`t make it back when Spurs won the ball back and broke. All three stood on the halfway line in unison and as soon as Tottenham`s attack petered out, all three put their hands on their knees and looked like they were hyperventilating. Senseless when you`re already two goals ahead.

Spurs made a change in personnel as the ineffective Aaron Lennon was replaced by Defoe. But they changed more than that. They narrowed the game and squeezed Arsenal in field and looked to hit them on the counter. Jermain Defoe stayed glued to the shoulder of Koscielny as Spurs looked to stretch our defence. It worked a treat as the Gunners just don`t have the guile to appreciate a shift in a game. Like horny teenagers they just keep ramming away without thought. Within five minutes of the beginning of the second half, Tottenham hit Arsenal on the counter attack. Assou Ekotto was left to punt the ball to the halfway line, Jermain Defoe beat Clichy in the air (!), which allowed van der Vaart time and space to bring the ball down and nudge it into the path of Bale, who caressed the ball in his stride before prodding it past Fabianski with the outside of his left boot. The game was back in the balance, meanwhile, you really were left to wonder how on earth a team gets hit on a counter attack with only three men defending their own half when they`re already two goals ahead. I`ve spoken in recent weeks about the annoying propensity for the likes of Clichy and Djourou not to clear their lines because all they know to do is to pass, pass, pass without appreciating that sometimes, just sometimes, you have to read a situation and sometimes that situation calls for you to clear your lines. What seems to be clear is that this isn`t a foible particular to a couple of individuals; it is a squad wide malaise. The team simply don`t know how to read a situation and react accordingly. They just do the same thing again and again and just pour forward in numbers when a smart side takes the sting out of the game at 2-0, instead of groping lustfully for 90 minutes of every single game no matter what.

In truth, Spurs still didn`t look overly dangerous but Arsenal didn`t really know whether to stick or twist and in lieu of a decision or some direction, they did neither and encouraged Tottenham. Arsenal had an opportunity to go two goals clear when Arshavin played Chamkh through. Once again he tried to cut back and allowed Gallas to come back with a tackle. Wenger had seen enough and absolutely instantly beckoned van Persie from his warm up. By the time van Persie entered the fray, Spurs had pulled level. Modric was squeezed out by Song and Squillaci and Dowd incorrectly called the foul. One of a number of minor calls Dowd got wrong. What he did not get wrong was the decision that followed. Van der Vaart clipped his free kick goalwards and Fabregas astoundingly lifted his arm to punch the ball away from its destination. Had he and Chamakh simply jumped they would have blocked it comfortably. Instead Cesc stayed grounded and gave away one of the stupidest penalties I have ever seen us concede. Van der Vaart coolly slotted the penalty and Tottenham were level having not had to work incredibly hard to be so.

At this stage, Arsenal did provide a response. Jenas` tackle fell unwittingly fell to Fabregas; he drove at a gap in the Spurs defence and bent a shot goalwards which Gomes flung himself to palm away. The Gunners were applying the pressure and really should have reassumed the lead when van Persie worked himself some space and clipped a right footed cross to the back post where Laurent Koscielny was completely unmarked five yards from goal, but he inexplicably lifted his header over the crossbar when it was easier to score. But the Gunners received the ultimate punishment when Koscielny fouled Bale near the touchline (though not as badly as Bale`s constant triple somersaults of faux agony suggested). Van der Vaart swung in an excellent delivery which Younes Kaboul glanced into the far corner. The last time I had watched Arsenal lose a home fixture to Spurs, I sat inside Highbury contemplating my upcoming ninth birthday. This was a feeling a generation of Arsenal fans have yet to experience. Still, the ultimate defeat could have been averted when Sagna found Walcott in a nook of space in the channel in the area, but Walcott did not look up, he just turned and whacked it as hard as he could, skying the ball horribly. The game was up and the misery began to sink in.

Every team tosses away leads on occasion, but Arsenal do it a lot more than a team of this ability and quality should. Caught trying to play pretty football in their own area at St. Andrews, the 4-4 at home to Spurs, the surrender at Upton Park last October and ultimately, the rotten capitulation at Wigan. Any one of those incidents should have scarred this team for life, but we continue to make the same errors. As alluded to earlier, I used to put this down to self congratulation, (doubtless we will beat Villa next week and Walcott or Nasri or someone will tell the press how we`re going to do this and that and how we`ve learned our lessons) but I don`t think that to be the case. We have a terrific squad of players- Bendtner and Gibbs couldn`t make their way into the 18 yesterday- all of whom have ability, all of whom work hard and can tough out results away from home when required and can stand up to physical onslaughts blah, blah, blah etc. I have come to the conclusion that the reason these capitulations have become so commonplace is due to plain old lack of intelligence. And there ain`t no cure for stupid. Arsenal don`t know how to adjust to situations, the culture of playing good football has become so inculcated on the club that they don`t know how to do anything else. So when a defender has the ball in his own area in injury time when we`re a goal up away from home, he still looks for an aesthetically pleasing pass. When we`re 2-0 up at home to a decent side who have already shown a proclivity towards comebacks this season, we still throw a ridiculous amount of players forward instead of putting a foot on the ball and trying to control the pace of the game. At times it`s part basketball, part basket case. It`s hard to know how exactly the manager cures that. The club and the manager have to be savvy and treat their PR with kid gloves now, because **** knows we don`t want to hear anymore idle pleasantries about how they`ve learned their lessons or how they`re going to win the league again because they`ve won a game. A dignified silence needs to permeate the club now, the knives are going to be out and the natives are going to be restless. Wenger complained about a sour atmosphere at home games when we were suffering in the league two seasons ago and that negative atmosphere will be back with a vengeance now. The players are going to have their work cut out bleeding any semblance of faith from their supporters and cynicism levels will soar through the roof. Worse than this, this regular capitulation, coupled with our poor home form, means teams will not give us an easy time any longer. They know that even if we`re 3 goals clear, they can still get back into the game. Meanwhile, we are going to have to just suck up the taunts of the Spurs fans, it`s their weekend on this occasion.LD.

21.FABIANSKI, 3.SAGNA, 18.SQUILLACI, 6.KOSCIELNY, 22.CLICHY, 15.DENILSON, 17.SONG, 4.FABREGAS(c), 8.NASTI (14.Walcott `76), 23.ARSHAVIN (7.Rosicky `76), 29.CHAMAKH (10.v.Persie `68). Unused: 19.Wilshere, 20.Djourou, 27.Eboue, 53.Szczesny.





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The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday November 21 2010

Time: 2:24PM

Your Comments

Well welcome to a new day and a new dawn ...read it slowly to me I just love hearing it two - three, two -- three, the taset gets better with every hour that goes by.............17 years or your pompous arrogant smug faces....well there were 50,000 spanked faces walking out of the emoroids yesterda and I just had to stnd at Hoolway Road and count everyone of them YEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA the boys are back , live with it
OyVeh Maria
I hear buxton water are developing a rubber water bottle (Arsen likes rubber) just for your manager...its dual functional he can drink from it, he can throw it all ovre the dug and he can shove it up his ...arsenalhole and use it as a comforter.......
OyVeh Maria
.FABIANSKI, 3.SAGNA, 18.SQUILLACI, 6.KOSCIELNY, 22.CLICHY, 15.DENILSON, 17.SONG, 4.FABREGAS(c), 8.NASTI (14.Walcott `76), 23.ARSHAVIN (7.Rosicky `76), 29.CHAMAKH (10.v.Persie `68). Unused: 19.Wilshere, 20.Djourou, 27.Eboue, 53.Szczesny. WHO ARE YER! WHO ARE YER! WHO ARE YER!
OyVeh Maria
I hear a lot of goons moaning that they gifted us the game. Apparently our 3 goals were nothing more than a "hoof" up to Defoe, a silly pen and a header Kaboul should never have won. What I don't get is that when Fabregas uses the long ball, as he did yesterday for your first, its a miraculous defence splitting pass. Its also possible that Kaboul is just better in the air than your players, I didn't see him lose one header yesterday. The pen was silly but VDV shot was on target and that was a foul on Modric all day long. Everyone of the pundits and commentators agrees, only goons disagree. Not sure how many times you team hacked down Bale yesterday but if that the only way you can stop him then thats oyur problem, I wasn't surprised to see him stay down and try to bring the refs attention to the constant cheating by your lot. See you at the Lane....Spurs to do the double? You wouldn't be against it.
SteadySpur
YOUR NOT SINGING ANYMORE! YOUR NOT SINGING ANYMORE! One French Monkey well and truly off our back! See you at the Lane for the return ......COYS
OyVeh Maria
Dont bother writing on this Blog Gooners the Yids are taking this space for the day! Just like we took you yesterday!!
OyVeh Maria
That smugness you ****s have had for all these years wants to start fading quick otherwise your gonna be very disapointed for the next few years. Since harry has been at Spurs, we have played you 5 times in the league- W-2 L-1 D-2, so although you are still the better team, its getting ******** close and it wont be another 17 years until we beat you again in your back yard, believe me, were gonna do the double against you and THEN put you out the CL, how smug you gonna feel then you soppy **** *****. 2-0 and you ****ed it, 5 years, no cup, a classless mangers, a team full of french players without a single staring englishmen, and a atmoshereless ground, jesus I bet supporting your club leaves a horrible taste in the mouth!
liamyid
Gracious in victory and classy. LOL Steadyspur still finding something to moan about, this was your world cup final, enjoy it, as it won't happen again for another nigh on 2 decades.
shewore
Same old noise one comes to expect from Spurs fans I suppose. You can enjoy your victory, but we;'ve heard all these claims about power shifting etc before. You're still 4 points behind us and the extent and the vitriol in your gloating shows that, not only did you not expect that yesterday, you don't think it'll happen again for a while, Otherwise you would gloat, but perhaps not so riotously and poisonously. liamyid, not sure what the national make up of our squad has to do with anything, but where does Kaboul, scorer of your winning goal come from again? Supporting my club has been rather rewarding, afterall, I don't have to ask my great Grandparents what it feels like to win a league title.
Little Dutch
71, 2004, 71, 2004. 71, 2004. See you there, yid.
shewore
And Tottenham's captain yesterday, which country is it that he represents? Think before you post your BNP lite trash here liam.
Little Dutch
That post could've come any time in the last ten years. We really spent half a century in your shadow? which half century was that then? The first 50 years of the 20th century? When we picked up 6 league titles and 3 F.A. Cups? I've been hearing about you lot rising to go past us since before I got pubes and it never happens, does it? By the time it does, we'll all be long in our graves and you lot will be counting West Ham as your local rivals in your council house in Stratford.
Little Dutch
Little dutch thank you so much for your contribution and for raising the tone of the debate ...now, if you would like to take that plum out of your mouth put down your Times Educational Supplement and check this out...........TWO - THREE, thats all that counts right now.....now that we have started spanking the french monkey were going to make it a habit so live with it ..We are now in your face and its close up and its personal and you can eulogise as much as you like dutchy my little posh gooner but theres a new bully in the play ground ....new rules.. new order...live with it..get used to it....the days of arsandhole playing the "our dicks bigger than yours" are over, you can count your league titles till your blue in the face ...as long as Spurs are in town your titles will be just a fading memory...oh and, this is not gloating by the way, no, this is called pay back time, painful isnt it? hurts a lot doesnt it?...and its going to go on for some time I cant promise it wil be 17 years though it might take us a bit longer to get it all out of our system...enjoy Monday Morning back at the office old boy......
OyVeh Maria
Why are both CF thrown forward for a set piece when we are 2-0 up? No team should be done on the counter-attack when they are winning by two goals. The second goal was just pure stupidity from Cesc and Chamakh, had that been Denilson the fans would've been calling for his execution. It hit Cesc hand but had he not done Chamakh would've. And I am amazed that nobody told Cesc, hey you nearly cost us the game there cut that out. After the Liverpool game last year when he did the exact same thing and got away with it. And then there is the last goal; they had Crouch, Gallas and Kaboul, we must have had at least 6 players back but still conceded and its not surprising if you look at who was marking Kaboul; Cesc and RVP. The manager can complain all he likes about bad luck and bad defending but there are simply no excuses now, we had almost everybody fit, we were playing at home, no major refereeing howlers. He was out-thought by a wheeler n' dealer. I had predicted that we would lose at home again soon (after the Newcastle match) to an inferior side but I just didn't think it would be this soon.
gronedrone
I just watched it again, it was 8 defenders back.
gronedrone
LOL Half a century?! Was your club in the swamps around in the 1800s or something? And set up a betfair account? Nah - you're alright mate, I know you'd probably try and lend me some money though. Enjoy it, cos it won't happen again for some time.
shewore
WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!! WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 WE BEAT THE POO 3-2 How sweet that result was thats two in a row in the league againts you boys!!!UNLUCKY!!!
Ibiza yiddo
@SteadySpur - I am not convinced fouling a player and having the foul given counts as cheating. Rolling around trying to exaggerate contact to get a card, or running into a player and acting like you have a punctured lung to waste time quite clearly is. Great write up as ever LD. Had to cut down my blog reading, I just can't handle the doom and gloom tribe, I feel bad enough already. How we continue to play 4-5-1 but somehow turn it into 2-1-6-1 is beyond me. ESPECIALLY two goals up. The beef I have with Defoe beating Clichy to a header is not the fact that it actually happened, but the fact that the header was on the halfway line, and when defoe won the header, the proceeding player went straight through where clichy should have been. We have the ability to sit back and close out games, and our pressing game is there. It just needs to be shifted deeper. Too often were players chasing Spurs players rather than keeping them in front. The next month will give us an idea on whether this team will cut it. Man U won the league a couple of seasons back despite losing the derby twice, this certainly is not the end of the world.
jl13
"north london is ours, ***** off to stratford, north london is ours" you have to laugh at this 2 bob, french lite team. arse are a band of wondering gypo's who moved to north london from *****ing woolwich! north london is not and never has been yours!...you fools need to wake up and smell the coffee. a top 4 place is all you can acheive, and even that will be tested.
lillywhites101
OhVery Maria, might interest you to know I was reared in the London Borough of Lewisham, so I'm not sure where the posh thing comes from! I've heard all of that "we're gonna do this, that and the other" a million times before. Honestly, just copy that little paragraph and save it somewhere, save you some typing for the next 50 years or so. Like I said, the manner of your gloating, your desperation for our acceptance like a little boy pulling on his older brother's trouser leg. Of course it hurts today, but in my life time the good memories far, far, far outweigh the bad. It'll be the same for any Gooner, no matter how old they be. Yesterday was very much your day, but if you want to widen the context out a bit, the only way you're ever really going to rid yourselves of that inferiority complex is if you come and win the league at the Emirates three times. My great, great Grandchildren needn't even worry about seeing it once.
Little Dutch
We've saved North London some embarrassment though haven't we? Given it a bit of glory. If it was left to your lot, even parasites would starve on your reflected glory. Being the charitable bunch we are we were also considerate enough to bring our league title celebrations to your place a couple of times, just so you could see it for yourselves. Whatever you think of what we can achieve, it will be a lot more than you lot do. As it has been for a very, very long time now.
Little Dutch
And lillywhites, judging by Levy's grovelling statement on your site on Friday, it seems North London isn't too keen to keep you. Can't blame Harringey Council really, no one wants the drunken nutter sitting next to them on the bus.
Little Dutch
as great to see a Spurs victory, I wont crow too loudly until it becomes a regular occurrence (if and when) personally I would still back arsenal to win more NLDs than us at this very time, but this could be a defining moment for Spurs and give us real belief. on the other hand it could so easily be another false dawn, but do excuse me my moment in the sun...
oxfordspur
Sandwiching an opponent is a foul. Dowd was right and you are wrong.
refereesfavourbig4
Little dutch ....the more you write the better it makes me feel and, by the way, there's Ravensbourne Park (Catford Bridge) or there's Rushey Green (CATFORD) One is the plummy end of town the others where you wouldnt want to walk alone at night....so dont quote fecking Lewisham to me ....and you if you were reared in Lewisham I can only assume your from the plummy end of town or your a fresian cow, no one from Lewisham even knows what reared means.... unless your homosexual
OyVeh Maria
Charming, mature riposte. I'm not much interested in what you think of where I'm from, the point I'm making is that you assumed because I can do things like, you know, spell and read, that I was some sort of top hat wearing aristocrat. I think that says a lot about your IQ. I also don't eat out of bins, I guess that also makes me a sherry slurping hooray too according to you. refsetc, Modric wasn't sandwiched, he ran out of space and fell over, no contact. But I'm not overly interested in that decision because it didn't excuse the stupidity that followed it from us.
Little Dutch
oh, and by the way, thank you for saving North London, where would we be if it wasnt for the Arsenal, after all, who else is going to keep the house prices up, certainly not the drunken yids from down the street..........Arsenal aren't even from North London, their from Woolwich Arsenal, South of the River, you wondered into our part of London uninvited, weve been here all our lives .....just like your from Lewisham you aint even a North Londoner as opposed to some of us who are Tottenham born and bred....if your from Lewisham go and support Fulham or Crystal Palace
OyVeh Maria
Fulham? Hmmm,, think you might have meant Milwall or Charlton. Arsenal have been in North London longer than your lot. White Hart Lane was always part of Middlesex until the boundaries were changed in the 60s. If you want to talk credentials, I haven't missed an away game for 9 years or a home game for 11. I've probably been to *****e Hart Lane more times in the last ten years than you have. I hope you keep that commitment to geography when the Spuds turn tail and pitch up in some social housing in Stratford. I guess you'll be buying an Enfield Town season ticket when that day comes? No, didn't think so.
Little Dutch
Still live in Tottenham Maria?
shewore
You can always rely on the spuds to remain grounded, retain a sense of perspective, take a considered view of the manner of their win, not to get carried away with the moment or going by some of their half time post too down when things are going against them. Clearly 50 years of failure has taught them that it is far better to sit back and only bask in their achievements once they have been accomplished. Only those ingrained with humiliation over many years would feel their only chance to celebrate would be one third of the way through the season while still trailing the bigger teams. Another thing you'd have to credit Levy with is a great sense of timing in revealing that they can't afford to build their new stadium just before a NLD. His news that they really are relying on a move to affordable housing in Stratford is much less controversial with the spud supporters looking the other way.
Amos.
Sometimes they come back......
Anon 1
OyVeh, it's bloody nice to colonize the arse site, like this, if only for a day. After all, the bloody arses migration from Sarf London represents nothing other than an attempt at colonization. Reading all the post-match comments, the one I found the most amusing, for its blinkeredness was Wenger's, who said: "if you look at the stats and numbers, its difficult to see how we we lost". Someone should have reminded the tosser of the most important stat - 2-3!!!
roforofo
I think you'll find it's more of an infestation than colonisation roforofo. It can be dealt with. They've been numerous such infestations over 50 years or so. It always clears up in the end and I understand plans are underway to move the source of infestation away from the area into the more controlled environment of sheltered accomodation in Stratford.
Amos.
So back to the article then. Nice report as always LD. I wonder whether without Nasri's determination to get one over on Gallas (if that's what it was) if we would have had a half time lead at all. Certainly he was displaying the energy we needed and even gave Arshavin some time and space. Shame he couldn't sustain it but he would have felt that he'd won his own personal battle. Whatever went wrong afterwards wasn't due to any failing on his part. The pity is not whether Nasri had a point to prove it's that a number of others didn't.
Amos.
LD write up first class, we have dished it out now we will have to suffer for a while. Time will tell and as they say cream will always rise to the top. I have always believe things come in three's we now have that monkey off our backs and I would not be surprised if we dont lose another game at home. No one could say the better team won, it was just the one that took its chances better. We had the opportunity to win and fluffed our chance. I thought we might have made a come back when our goal was disallowed but hey thats the games. Last year we lost to the scum and I felt we played rubbish, no matter how bad the feeling is losing to the scum we didnt give up and I'll live with that. I'm sure the whole team is gutted and I expect to see positive results. Wide boy Arry will come a croppa and all these lovely lads will turn on him. For the moment well done spuds, remember how you have dished it out this time. alwaysgunner
alwaysgunner
Forgive us for just enjoying that VICTORY just little bit but this is for 2 reasons: 1. You did what we have done so many times Phucked it up 2-0 and I didn't expect that your right. 2. Cesc Pistols came on our site Friday giving it large how dilusional we all were that we could win. JUST GIVING IT BACK WITH INTEREST.
COYS R US
You have the bragging rights for sure but I'm pretty sure there's no one posting here with the user name of Cesc Pistols. Not that it matters you'd have been infesting the site anyway. It's gone our way often enough we can take it (what with the biggest away win in a NLD for 38 years and all that). The more extreme spud posters embarass themselves more than they might add to ours. It gives us the opportunity to laugh at their lack of wit and cringeworthy stupidity as Niko more eloquently pointed out. Not really much compensation but it's some minor relief at least.
Amos.
As a Spurs fan it was interesting to see the game from an Arsenal perspective, good write up. (Despite its slight bias) I can't see either team getting worse, only better, both have the infrastructure to be successful in the future, I think its an interesting time to be a Spurs or an Arsenal Fan.
Blue Odeyssey
Touche LD, good banter as ever. Particularly liked your post on saving North London from some embarrassment. Very good. Now for my thoughts on what was a great advert for North London derbies. The number of times we have outplayed Arse and lost, blown 2 goal leads etc I have lost count of. So, the fact that we came from two down made it sweet, very sweet. I do think that it comes down to arrogance - Arse lost because they were arrogant and underestimated a very determined and talented Spurs team. Watching them actually walk around just before half time passing the ball between them made my blood boil and right there I realised we had a chance. They gave the half time team talk and provided the motivational material right there and then. Tbh, for what it's worth I have to say the poster about NL being "yours" was pretty pathetic and somewhat inaccurate. Bottom line is all that matters is that we got 3 points and got ourselves back in contention for a top 4 finish.
The Tailor
Denilson stank up our midfield yesterday. Twitchy Rednapp likes to make out Van Der Vaart is the buy of the season, but in all honesty if Denilson had done his job yesterday the first goal would never had happened. Just watch it on replay and explain why this highly paid joker is jogging back towards goal watching the player he is supposed to be tracking laying the ball off to Bale. And its not like this is a rare occurance. I hate pointing out individual players but its individual mistakes that are costing us big time. Collectively the team have the ability, but having passengers like the jogging brazillian in vital positions undermines it all. Until Wenger gets his players to put 100% in (YES, ITS HIS JOB) we'll continue to see debacles like this.
Wyn Mills
nikolaijns sounds like ur just a bitter man..to come from 2 down to win 3-2 against ur rivials, was fanastic nothing to do with they gifted it to us as they like to think
123spurs
And don't get me started on how a dwarf like Defoe can beat our full backs in the air. Or why Cesc and RVP are left to defend an aerial free kick against Kaboul. Shouldn't one be marking him while the other handles Crouch? Ludicrous stuff.
Wyn Mills
the reason we are gloating is because none of you ****s have said spurs deserved it, which at the end of the day we did. as much as you let us back in the game....we handed a 2 goal start to you on a plate, you always spout bollox about other teams being ungracious when winning, but you ******** pikeys are never gracious in defeat, so stop yer ******** whining and get over yourselves,
paddypower
To me I am just shocked that we scored of a set piece. FFS I cannot remember the last time that occurred. It was a good match I though you guys created a ton of chances just the finishing product was poor. It was everything a derby match is supposed to be and I am happy with the result cannot say I would not have been happy with a tie prior to the match. I though your passing was very good/better then ours throughout the match but it seemed all the goals were scored of terrible defending...the gap is closing but I cannot say we are better until we actually prove it with consistency over the course of a season.
RagingSpur
PP there taking after there manager, what more can you expect from them
123spurs
DONT WANNA GO HOME, DONT WANNA GO HOME. THIS IS THE BEST TRIP IVE EVER BEEN ON
ShamrockSpur
and dont get me started on the tackling, when a gooner is on the end of a hard challenge, everyone and their dog is "trying to destroy the bootifull game" yet when your players where shamelessly hacking bale down when he clearly outpaced his man he was doing "triple somersaults" and whatever else you wrote. your days of crying about hard tackles are well and truly over boys, you go onto vital spurs and ox always writes a well balanced, objective and HONEST assessment of every game spurs play,......... tim dutch, little stillman or whatever the f.u.ck your name is maybe you should ask him for a few pointers on how to report what actually happens in a game.
paddypower
WAIT UNTIL YOU COME TO THE LANE AND WE HAVE OUR REAL TEAM OUT. we will be two nill up at half time and we wont blow it either. gob*****es
ShamrockSpur
Have to say that for a team whos manager moans about how hard his kids get tackled, I was disgusted at the treatment of Bale. Most teams are struggling to come to terms with how to deal with him. Hope not too many follow your tactics of simply hacking him down. I won't bother gloating here, no need, I know the pain you're feeling and that makes me happy enough.
Tottenham Hotcore
paddypower, I reported the game as I saw it, whether or not you agree is down to you. Just because you don't agree with me it doesn't mean it's not an honest assessment. Once again, I have to ask why you're so bothered about whether we think you deserved it? The last twenty odd times we've beaten you I don't recall going over to VS cap in hand begging for your praise. It's indicative of the inferiority complex that stinks a good portion of your support out. Bale wasn't hacked, he outpaced Koscielny and drew a foul through skill, but watch the replay and he was falling well before contact, as well as his little dying swan act in the corner in injury time. But those are minor complaints and not the reason we lost and that was one comment in the whole report. A minor, barely significant one, but the way you've wibbled on about it like a girl having her first period, you'd think I'd written paragraphs on it. I don't see anyone whining here accept for you paddypower.
Little Dutch
FYI, Bale was fouled 4 times yesterday, Wilshere was fouled 7 times when we beat you at Matchbox Lane in September- 6 of those were in 90 minutes.
Little Dutch
And for further referencer paddypower, here's what i wrote with regards to the fouling of Wilshere in my match report from that game in September: " Always available for the ball when a team mate was in trouble, always took the sensible decision with the ball in possession (whether it be a defence splitting pass or a two yard tuck to a team mate) and he stood up to some heavy knocks from, ahem, heavyweights such as Wilson Palacios. Apropos to nothing, I don`t think for one second Spurs were trying to kick Jack, I just don`t think they could get near him."
Little Dutch
can you find wengers water bottle in the pic
123spurs
It truly is astounding that Arsenal could batter us for 45 mins and then literally hand us our ticket back into it. Your defence is suspect and so is your goalkeeper, and that's why you lost. The Arsenal back four needs investment because they can't defend set peices for *****.
Tony Rocky Horror
"FYI, Bale was fouled 4 times yesterday, Wilshere was fouled 7 times when we beat you at Matchbox Lane in September- 6 of those were in 90 minutes"...... haha, and that proves what exactly? there is no point trying to baffle me with stats my friend because we would be here all day, my point was that if bale was wearing an arsenal shirt someone would have filed a lawsuit against against whoever tackled him or started another witchhunt like the one that ensued when ramsey got injured. and if you disagree with my assesment of your assesment then tough toenails, at the end of the day I have grown up around an even mix of spurs and gooners and as much as I like them as friends, they like you are very one-sided in their views of arsenal.
paddypower
also i am not bothered as to whether or not you think we deserved it, im just pointing out my assesment of arsenal is that you lot are very bad losers, i remember the thread on VA after the CC game in september and countless spurs fans came over and congratulated you a great display..... me included see if you can dig that thread out statto, and to coin a phrase,.... Just because you don't agree with me it doesn't mean it's not an honest assessment.
paddypower
We're all one sided in our view of our clubs. Not all of us have an all consuming need for our neighbours to tell us it's alright for us to have won though. There can't be a more pathetically needy bunch of supporters in football than the spuds. You've won. That's all that matters. You don't need anyone else's confirmation.
Amos.
Great write up, LD. My sentiments exactly, re the need for these players (Nay! the entire club) to talk less and just focus on playing football as they have the potential to. I am frustrated with these emotional roller coaster rides they give; but, I imagine they can't feel any better themselves. I feel the Manager has failed at getting into the heads of the players to instill a big game mentality into them, in which case, they would need little telling to know to clear their lines when that is what is needed. I will make an exception of Sagna, who is gritty and would clear his lines first instead of looking for the nifty pass. It is Wenger's job to teach the lads some basic stuff...whatever it is he told them to prepare them for the games against Everton and Wolves where they were keen (and showed they wanted ) to take the 3 points.
Naijagunner
The gloating of the spuds doesn't worry me much; it is the way they troll this site/thread, mostly spouting very biased views, that ticks me off, much like an infestation or epidemic of some sort. Enjoy your day in the sun, lads. Something tells me it will be the highpoint of your season.
Naijagunner
nice write up little dutch, i think you were bit harsh on nasri, he is our best player at the moment and i think he was up for it. It wasn't his mistake to get them back into the game. it was deja vu of man utd game last season, we kept going forward and leaving spaces stupidly at the back good news is we still only 2 pts off the top and we will play the big 4, city, everton, villa at home at the 2nd half of season ... oh ***** !!
Gooner SA
"i remember the thread on VA after the CC game in september and countless spurs fans came over and congratulated you a great display..... me included" Countless? I can understand that Spuds have stopped counting the number of years since they last won a title but I assumed that was down to habit rather than ability. You can count the number offering their congratulations here http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=520434 I make it two - not to hard to count really and nothing from any of the paddypowers. To be fair there are 2 or 3 others accepting defeat graciously on related threads but outnumbered by spud posts claiming all sorts of unfairness. - but nothing on any of these in the name of paddypower either.
Amos.
What do you mean what does it prove? If you're going with the contention we did a hatchet job on Bale, then you can't verily turn round and say you didn't do the same to Wilshere. What I'm saying is that Wilshere was fouled several times in that game but I, nor any other Arsenal fan I know of, accused Spurs of a hatchet job. But it is a bit different when someone's fib and tib are snapped like twigs on a yearly basis. I've also grown up around an equal number of Spurs fans and Arsenal fans, I've grown up around a lot of football fans and they're all one sided about their clubs. This was a piece by an Arsenal fan on an Arsenal site, why did you expect it to be about Spurs? Spurs came over and congratulated us on a great display? What 2 people? Come on, get a wee bit of perspective. Besides, why should I give two *****s whether 2 Spurs fans congratulated us or not? Your opinion of Arsenal doesn't matter to me, whether we win or lose. You on the other hand come over grovelling for our acceptance. The way you've tried to spin the last sentence in that last post is superfluous, it doesn;t make any sense because it bares no relation to what you'd said prior to that.
Little Dutch
I'd be careful there Amos, you might "baffle him with stats" again and cause him to go into another little paddy. Imagine how much his little head would spin if you asked him to count the years since Totnum's last league title.
Little Dutch
If he can't count beyond 2 he wouldn't be able to cope with such a big number LD. 50 really would be countless. Perhaps he just needs one of us to confirm that 3 is bigger than 2 in order to be sure they won yesterday? Still at least in his world his arithmetic allows him to believe they have beaten us countless times over the last 15 years. Wonderful place is Spudland. A little like Poundland only cheaper - hence they can't find the money to build their own stadium.
Amos.
The point LittleDutch is, no other team/team mangers moan or whine about tackles. FFS, BenHarfa's leg was broken , did Newcastle make a fuss out of it. They were angry for sometime, but they are carrying on with it. No one defends rough tackling. But all managers know they cant do anything about it. But only Wenger does this b*tching & moaning that whole world is conspiring against his young boys. If he cant carry with himself with dignity in the field ,he is not a professional. Whether you guys like it or not, he b*tches,moans,whines and a great drama queen who can only see the arsenal players going down and doesnt see/doesnt want to see the other side of the coin. When Wenger losses a match, everytime its the same, you can predict to the word what he is gonna say in the post match press conference. On Arsenal reckless tackles 'I didnt see it' 'He is not that kind of a boy'. On handball penalty 'I didnt see it'.On losing the match 'I dont know how we lost the game. If you see the stat ..blah...blah.... blah......'. If he doesnt know the reason, either he doesnt want to reveal the reason or if he really dont know, he is not good enough for a coach. To me, he is a good scout than a coach.
sydqcb5
Ben Arfa isn't Newcastle's player. He's on loan from Marseille who have threatened legal action against De Jong so wrong example there. The CMO of Fifa and executive committee member has also complained about poor tackling. Danny Murphy was crucified by the luddites for expressing an honest view that some players go over the top. Other managers like Martinez have also supported the opnion that tackling skills have to improve. It's nonsense to say there is nothing that can be done to teach players to improve tackling skills and nonsense to say that only Wenger believes it should be improved. You're just buying into hysterical and distorted reporting of what he has actually said.
Amos.
Amos, Levy also aid in his article about the new stadium... THFC is not receiving the financial support from the local govt. as AFC did in their new stadium. Even more than 2 years after the financial support, you still can't buy players... THFC can afford our stadiun, as we have arrangments of 400m in place,and a new traning ground being built in Enfield.. so just choke on this fact... 20.11.2010 Arsenal 2-Spurs 3.
Block D Spurs
I'm not sure how you connect the two Block D but the fact that you won yesterday is the only clear one. Levy makes it evident in a statement on the club web site that the extra costs associated with building a stadium at a time in which government spending and thereby government support will be constrained for a number of years has the potential to undermine the viability of the club. The costs are still increasing you don't have all or even much of the finance in place and don't even own enough land at present to build the development. His enthusiasm for the Stratford option is very clear in the statement made but if that doesn't come off a new stadium is many more years away.
Amos.
Frankly I attach more significance to West Brom beating us than the Spuds. With the brummies you at least had to put your hands up and say you were beaten by the better side on the day. Wheeler dealer 'Arry's cocks just took advantage the gifts we handed to them. Now they're gonna win the league. Lol! . How many times over the decades have we heard that before? Expect the special Edition DVD out this week.
Wyn Mills
We all know Spurs will be turfed out of North London. They can't afford to do up their gaff because Harry 'Just 3 more players and we will be Champions!' Redknapp has done his usual trick of spending too much on his fantasy team. You can't say they weren't warned.
Wyn Mills
Not going to gloat like some of the deluded spurs fans above. However, you's played well in the first half, deserved your 2-0 lead as you were playing good football. But, them 2 goals were more gifted to you's than our 3 goals. Every fan blames there own players and brandishes them as "gifts" to the opposition when they score a mediocre goal. What was gomes doing for the first? what was hutton doing for the second? However, in the second half arsenal played to a shade of what they were in the first. Somehow looked like a team who thought they already won and that the typical spurs of old would roll over like they always do in highbury or emirates. We won a game of football, we got 3 points, its not a big deal we've got 3 points before and i'm sure we'll get 3 points again. However, that game showed yet again a football club who are slowly beginning to crumble. A manager who (sorry for the pun) seems to be bottling it. In which he wasn't one to do so in years past. Spurs are still some distance behind, and may continue to be some distance behind for quite a while. We won a game of football, nothing more, nothing less. Also our chairman is venting frustration that we aren't getting special treatment like arsenal did. The stadium can be financed without public backing but, unlike the arsenal stadium, the new spurs centre plans to offer much more than a stadium, but a new way of life for the local community. Which is why our chairman couldnt understand how backs would be turned, maybe it was because too much public money went in to building the dump across the way.
spursftw
@Wyn Mills, We are very happy that Arsenal atleast give in that they were beaten by a better side westbrom. I dont expect you to accept the same with Spurs. Some were along the line you have to accept that you are pathetic this season. Afterall, this is the first time since, 1983 that Arsenal have lost 3 home games before Novemeber. As for as Spurs, you guys said 2 years back, We will be relegated--> We finished 8th from a poor start. Last year around midseason, you said, we will not get into top4--> We beat Arses,Chelsea &ManC fair & square to get into top4. This year startting you said,we will falter at CL qualifiers like Everton--> We qualified. When we were teamed up with Inter,Bremen&FCTwnte, you said we would be the last in the group--> 2 games to go ,we have one foot already in the CL K/O stages and we convincingly beat Inter,champions 6-5. Three days before you said 'you will never beat us in emirates'--> we beat you fair & square,regardless of how we played.Now you say we wont qualify for top4 next year and never win PL tittle--> We have proved people wrong in the last 2 years since Harry tookover. We will again prove you wrong. Because for Spyrs 'To dare is to do'. Btw, Harry's record against Wenger in PL, 2wins,1 draw & 1 L.COYS
sydqcb5
Ah, I see the herds are here in full force. Wish vital network was established in 2004.
Sajit
@Amos, Exactly my point.You are correct when you say that discipline needs to be improved. I agree with you 100%.But then, may be Wenger can start teaching the same in his home with the likes of Wilshere & Fabregas. Only difference btw their tackle and others is they were lucky not to break the bone or jaw of others. I dont wish them either. To me for the 90 minutes, any manager's focus should be on the game. If he is angry and throwing things around and shoving the 4th refree, what is the message it sends to players. He is certainly not heping himself when he does these things.
sydqcb5
@Sajit, atleast then there were real men in the arsenal team.
sydqcb5
@sydqcb5 To put things slightly into perspective...You won a match at Emirates. We won the league at yours. And 1999-2009. Lost none. Puts things into perspective. Doesn't it? PS : Congratulations on your victory.DVD out yet?
Sajit
@Sajit, I really dont care what happened in yester years. If that is the case, why are you playing now. Its the present that matters. All these yester year wonders/blabers dont really matter. If you are such a good team, win the PL title this year. With the defense and goalie u got, the max u could win anything is a carling cup,even thats difficult with ManU being there. As for Spurs is concerned, we are improving year on year,whether its the club revenue or league positions.
sydqcb5
"The Red Section" Haha. G'warn the Red Section boys giving the big one in vain. If we do "***** off to stratford" or stay at the lane im glad the fabulous looking plans for our stadium won't be so soulless
HuddersfieldYiddo
DVD's not out yet, THFC waiting 'till we beat ye at the lane so we can have both games on the one disc!
James237
Good article though one thats hard to disagree with. We didnt even play well! Even the likes of Modric and VDV had rare poor games. I just thought your defence was terrible!
HuddersfieldYiddo
Well, I dont think any gooner will put up any excuses for the performance yesterday. Was ***** poor. But, yea, we have to win something this year.,.even if its the Carling cup.
Sajit
Highlight of our season? Watching Bale destroy Milan, the CL champions will take some beating my friend.
Tottenham Hotcore
I promised myself i wasn't even gonna look at this site after that, expecting all this noise and nonsense. Rising above it all, welldone Spurs, you beat us. Lets stop being ****s about it?
FuiKaka
Arsene Wenger is wanted by Social Services after his kids were found badly beaten at home for the second time in just over a week!
Harry's twitch
sydqcb5. we're pathetic this season? Really? We're 2 points off the top and 4 ahead of you. What does that make you lot then? The last time we lost 3 home games before Xmas, we went on to win the Double in 2001-02. An age of colour TV and all that. This is one of your big problems as a fanbase, if the banter was strictly about this one game- the first one you've won at our place for 17 years- I wouldn't have much in the way of riposte. But you all start assuming this massive significance and gab rubbish about how you'll definitely do this and that and a shift of power etc. We've heard it all before chaps, ad nauseam. One can't blame you for being exciting, there are kids doing their GCSEs who weren't even alive the last time you won at Arsenal, but honestly, you really just set yourselves up for a fall when you all open your mouths and write cheques that your account can't take. The funny thing is with your new stadium is that none of you can see that Levy has been yanking your chains the whole time, you never had the permissions or any of the funding to build your own stadium, he's been stringing you along and is now blaming a lack of Givt funding- as if it wasn't crystal clear eons ago that the country is broke and ain't exactly handing out blank cheques. It's been a fit up right from the start so he could shrug his shoulders and say, "I tried, but it's everyone else's fault, so now we have to bed down in social housing in Stratford."
Little Dutch
Little Dutch lol love it.............could,nt agree with you more about Stratford. So mate you are free to sign our partition Keep N Londons only real team at WHL!! COYS
WestStandEnclosure
Partition eh? I think that's what Levy has in mind right enough. Seems that the first team in North London will be the only team in North London - but then in a sense we already are really.
Amos.
Well fought by the Spuds but I am not concerned about them in the title race. What is concerning is we are fumbling and grabbing defeat from the cusp of victory when Chelsea and United are playing highly ordinary football. Hope we learnt a lesson from this because the title is up for grabs and we are squandering our chances.
Deltaforce
Stratford Hotspur Football Club - does have a novel ring to it. Got to love the spuds thinking this is the dawn of a new era - they said the same thing when they won the beer cup in 2008.
Deltaforce
LOL! Stratford Hotspur! Genius..
Wyn Mills
it was a cracking game on sat, and for any away team in a fiercely fought local derby to come back from a 2-0 deficit is a fantastic achievement, a lot of spurs fans have come on here and boasted, quite rightly imo, after all it has been a long time coming, most other fans know for a fact that when things don't go your way your team is dirty, nasty niggling little fouls, one of the main culprits being nasri the diver, yet he falls over at the slightest of contacts, check out how many penalties you've won as a result of the snivelling little ****s dives, yet you as a man say bale wasn't hacked down in any way, bias at it's most extreme, most if not all of you have been brainwashed into thinking that your players are the victims not the culprits by that best of kiddie groomers arsene 'i never saw it' whinger, just accept the fact as it stands 2-0 and you *****ed it up as you are so fond of chanting, hurts doesn't it, that's the last two in the league you've lost to us, yep it has to be said, the football your *****bags play is heavenly at times, but the gap is definitely closing, accept it, embrace it and learn to live with it for it is a fact, and as the yanks say, have a nice day, lmfao
jabbatheyid
One game does not make a season, it's all a bit of a ***** take, sure, but over time we should reflect more, over the bigger picture, not just a snap shot from saturday, a win is a win, but it's still only 3pts, more should be put on how we continue to improve, Arsenal do it season in, season out, why because they are consistant against most teams they play, we are good enough to beat anyone on our day, as it proved on saturday, the champions league could have all ended, before it even started in Switzerland, 3-0 down on the plastic, but again we battled back and took them apart at the lane, results bring success, bring confidence, so why do we not do this every week? because we are not consistant, we are still papering over the cracks, new players are required, then we may just see us push on again..and the first time Arsenal secured the double, they won it at the lane, never have i forgotten that night, so take it easy on taking the *****, it just could blow back in your face. What ever happens in football, nothing we can do about it, we press on and pay our money, enjoy the moment, until the next game. REALITY...
spu 4 life
little dutch, us spurs are coming on here giving it large, just indulge us cos as you rightly state it has been a long long time in coming, too long in fact, but as for our mouths writing cheques the account can't cash, what about the last five or so years, we've heard so much ***** about the 'young guns' please enlighten me as to what they've achieved in the way of trophies, but isn't that all you pikey ****s writing cheques by mouth that your account has been unable to cash? arsene 'i love young boys' whinger's thirst for pure footballing perfection comes at a price, always the bridesmaid never the bride is as apt a way at describing it as any.
jabbatheyid
Reality is the last time Spurs won the big prize was before most people were born back in 1961. Last season your club spent a whopping 150m over the previous 18 months . That was second only to Man City! The least you could expect was to break into Europe, which you did...just. Face it, Spurs have been massively underachieving for years now. Just hope you finally win the league before Harry bankrupts you like he did Southampton, West Ham and Portsmouth.
Wyn Mills
New era my ass. Let them have their day. Perhaps selling a few more DVDs will improve their chances of building a new home.
Wyn Mills
Such impertinence picking out Nasri as a diver. Didn't Modric get booked for diving the other week? I think thats at least once more than Nasri. Modric also won the free kick that led to the penalty after going to ground. Truth is that the spuds are no better than anyone else when it comes to getting refs to see things they want them to see.
Amos.
Great write-up LD. Its difficult to know what we should conclude. Im not sure if its a lack of intelligence, although that has some part to play. We all know its far too common an occurrence for it just to be a rare lining up of planets. Even at 2-1 I felt wed go on and win it because Spurs would commit more and more into attack and we could counter. Cescs inexplicable handball is the real turning point. At the point, I sensed the players knew they could lose having been in that position before. Got me thinking is it the players or is it the manager and Ive come to the conclusion that it has to be the manager. It may not be the beautiful game, but Id argue that a Hiddink, Mourinho or Ferguson would be able to get more out of these players and to win a trophy. Perhaps this is as far Wenger can take this current team.
Gooner_Vin
A pity Wlishire wasn't playing. I reckon we wouldn't have lost that game otherwise.
Wyn Mills
All you punks saying you have a DVD of the last game at the Lane.... Well I HAVE A DVD FOR YOU!!! 2 nil up at home and you get schooled.... you have the spine of a jelly baby... COYS!
COYS...!
Hiddink, Mourinho or Ferguson probably wouldn't have all these players for one reason or another so it's academic whether they would get more out of them and not necessarily true either. It does come down to what they do on the pitch and it maybe that Wenger does trust them a little too much to make the right decisions at the right time. It's frustrating when they don't but the same team has shown against Wolves and Everton for example that they can do it. LD is right it comes down to having the intelligence to know what to do and when and whoever the manager is they're not going to be able to do it for them once they're on the pitch.
Amos.
Even though it was the biggest away win in a NLD for 38 years there isn't a club DVD of the WHL win a few weeks back. It's far too minor an achievement for us to bother with all that. Next you'll be expecting us to issue DVDs of high scoring draws!! What sort of small time, small thinking under achievers would bother with nonsense like that?
Amos.
Very entertaining stuff here above.. LD, do you have a job mate..? As you seem to have quite some spare time... What's all this shouting (including some Spurs fans) worth anyway when you might as well enjoy the feeling of a Glorious win... ;-)
1AaronLennon
Guys, we'll have to stop referring to it as the NLD soon anyway, what with Stratford Hotspuds moving and all. Looks like the ELD with West Ham beckons for the Strat-spuds.
Gooner_Vin
I do have a job, I just don't work on Sundays. Not that difficult to work out really.
Little Dutch
What have our team achieved in the last 5 years? Only achieved every year what Spurs have craved for decades. The reaction of Spurs fans on achieving a CL spot last season was hilarious to watch for gooners because we hope for so much more from our team year on year. Not to mention that we have further established ourselves as a top european team by reaching a final, a semifinal and a quarterfinal of the Champions League in the last four years. We have consistently finished amongst the top 3 in the premier league. We have a squad which can challenge for titles for years to come and have immense financial strength as a backup in case we need to use it.

Spurs on the other hand have turned into a loss making football club a year after Harry the Bankrupter Redknapp has taken charge. And that is even before the massive costs that are yet to be borne for your Stratford stadium move. While no one is denying that all the huge amount of money thrown at your squad has not improved you, dont get deluded like you always do. There are miles and miles to go before you can compare your club to The Arsenal.
Deltaforce
Very painful to watch, that i cannot deny. Of course i expect the Spurs fans to lap this result up and shove it in our faces but the balance in power changing comments are hilarious. Based on one result which was on the whole not deserved yet still 4 points behind. Lets talk about it more come may and see who is where in the league and who achieves what. Based on results we could say that Wigan are pushing Spurs for a CL spot or that Liverpool are challenging Chelsea for the title, perhaps we are more favoured to be relegared than West Brom or Newcastle now too.
paul_ownz
Whinge whinge whinge, Excuses,excuses lofl
Born&BredSpur
deltaforce, you state that we went mad cos we got cl football, that's as maybe, here's the rub, and i quote what you wrote, quote 'The reaction of Spurs fans on achieving a CL spot last season was hilarious to watch for gooners because we hope for so much more from our team year on year.' unquote, yes you do HOPE for much more each year, unfortunately the xoung guns you are so proud of fail to deliver, playing beautiful football is all well and good but if it brings nothing to the table........................ all you pikey ****s think you're much better than us, but think about it, if we're the under achievers where does that leave you lot? lmfao altogether now, oh when the spurssssssssss go marching innnnnnnnnnnnn or as you lot are so fond of, 2-0 and you *****ed it up............COYS
jabbatheyid
and just to add deltaforce, you quote reaching a final, semi and quarter final as being achievements, not the same as winning though is it? to end my last post on here u goon ****s, eat *****! ;-)
jabbatheyid
A team can have a better year than another without being as good. Birmingham had a better year than united but united are a much better team
paul_ownz
A couple of further points. 1. I didn't agree with Djourou being dropped in favour of Koscielny as I thought he'd done well the last couple of games. 2. Do Arsenal man-mark free-kicks and corners or zonal mark? We had Sagna marking Crouch from a corner at one point. 3. I think it's clear we need another dominant centre-back in addition to Vermaelen. It's an aree we haven't looked great in for a few seasons. Someone doing a similar role that Campbell used to do for us and Puyol does for Barcelona.
Gooner_Vin
Deltaforce... you clearly clutching at straws mate. End of the day you've won **** all for years and who's to say your make CL next season... nothing is a given this season... so watch you mouth son, you could easily get shown up... a little like Saturday.... change of subject... you want a DVD of saturday?? You clowns got the win against our Kids.... we beat your first team with half ours out. 2-0 and you ****ed it up.... its that simple.
COYS...!
Where does that leave our lot jabba? As a side that has won the title a number of times in the 50 years since you last did so - twice at WHL too. A side that this season has recorded the biggest away win in a NLD in 38 years (the biggest since our last biggest away win in a NLD). It's not a matter of whether we think we're better than your lot, with all due humility that's a matter of record. It's more about your inability to deal with that simple truth. Of course you might hope it will change in the future just as you've hoped that it might for the last 50 years but the sensible approach would be to wait until you've done so before crowing about new dawns and shifts in power given that you're a loss making club unable to finance a new stadium and competing with others to get on the housing list in Stratford.
Amos.
There is the rub indeed, if you lot really believed there was a power shift, why the need to say it? When we beat Spurs, I don't run over to VS with proclamations of this, that and the other. a) It's routine for us and b) I don't have to, I'm secure in our status as a club and don't feel the need to get your approval. If you think there's a power shift, why not sit back and watch it happen? It's because you know there isn't, just like you've known for the last 14 years that you've all been wibbling on about the power shift has all been hot air. But it's o.k, because, as is typical for sufferers of delusion, you live in a perpetual future where no past has ever existed. When we finish above you again this year and achieve more and spend a lot less than you, you'll just come back and say "next year we will overtake you" and so the pattern continues ad infinitum. It's like some kind of Inspector Gadget rerun, you remember where every show ended up with the villain pounding his fists and saying, "I'll get you next time Gadget." It's actually quite amusing to watch.
Little Dutch
Go Go Gadget
paul_ownz
Tottenham hotcore, "Highlight of our season? Watching Bale destroy Milan, the CL champions will take some beating my friend.". Last time I checked, Inter was 6th on the Serie A table and have lost 4, drawn 5 in the league, already. Looks like it doesn't take much to beat the CL champions, this time around.
Naijagunner
Lol! LD. That really says it all about what this is all about. Tee hee hee.
Naijagunner
Amazing. Takes 17 yrs for Spurs to beat Arsenal on Arsenal's home ground and suddenly they're certain candidates to win the league, the CL and surpass Arsenal's achievements. Having been a football fan/supporter/viewer for over 40 yrs and knowing a lot of different fan bases on 4 different continents, I don't think there's a more deluded fanbase in the world than the spuds. // Anyway, as to our performance...PLEASE stop with this c-r-a-p about our players "learning" from this. Can't believe anyone says that seriously. These players DON'T learn. They NEVER learn. Bunch of bottlers and chokers. Not at all surprising that it took this pathetic team to break our unbeaten home record against the spuds.
jaelle
jabbatheyid, FOYS, I'm going to let the football do the real talking here. You are small kids who have been given some candy and now think you know more about chocolate than willywonka.
Deltaforce
amazing wenger still in charge after 5 years of trophless, so aclled top club having dig at us, an ye have no chance in winning the league or the cl, no1 said we will win the league an we wont, why have wenger putting out strong team in CC
123spurs
I assume your the pro then Deltaforce.... you even from London mate or better still are you even english. You boys just cant accept that you got shown up on your own patch... one thing losing, another thing losing from 2 nil up... YES 17 years bla bla bla... but thats the last 2 league games we have beaten you... and the fans are a joke too... moaned when Gallas got booed by Chelsea and then your lot did the same... classic hypocrites... A gooner mate of mine came and shook my hand... said fair play.... you punks on hear are just bad bad losers who aint man enough to grow up and accept defeat.... REMINDS ME OF THAT JOKE NASRI... what a baby not shaking a fellow pro's hand... Simply a childish gesture, no wonder you lot act the same..... COYS!
COYS...!
Now run along .....
COYS...!
No-one's having a dig at you 123spud. You're here voluntarily. Same goes for you Coys. You're the one off your patch and therefore the one that needs to be running along. No comfort to be had here I'm afraid. No one can deny you the win but you haven't convinced anyone in doing so either. Least of all yourselves judging by your pathetically needy craving for some acknowledgement from us.
Amos.
But it's 2 in a row! 2! It's almost enough for a boxset!
Little Dutch
Also, I don't recall anyone complaining when Chelsea fans booed Gallas. I don't think we cared that much. Not sure I even recall anyone commenting on it. We're not all as desperate for acceptance as you are.
Little Dutch
LD, aahh, you're a 9 to 5 type of guy..doesn't surprise me, in fact ..exactly what i was thinking.. Anyway, have a nice life mate, got some higlights from the weekend to click.. ;-)
1AaronLennon
COYS, FOYS...!
Deltaforce
1AaronLennon, already bought the DVD I see. Send us a DVD of the next East London Derby if you dont mind. West Ham & you make for a nice pair.
Deltaforce
I think what AaronLennon is trying to tell us is that he's unemployed and is using his jobseekers' allowance to buy the commemorative DVD. He'll only watch the 2nd half though.
Amos.
Amos.... you are talking rubbish mate.... If coming back from 2 nil down against a so called big club at their ground doesn't get recognised then you clearly dont understand the game as well as you think. We don't need your acknowledgement.... however I bet Mr Wenger and his side have acknowledged us... now run along you silly child...
COYS...!
So Deletedforce will 'let the football do the talking'? DOH!!!
Tony Rocky Horror
Apparently we are a second rate side.... which clearly says a lot about their own side....
COYS...!
Troll Rodent Horror yes for all your gloating you are still 4 points plus inferior goal difference behind us. Lets compare notes on where our club's are at the end of the season. The end of the season ofcourse being the time when you are baked on an overdose of prozac.
Deltaforce
FOYS...! How difficult is it for your mediocre mind? You won last week but as a club you are still second rate - any club which hasn't won the premier football league of the country it belongs to for 50 years is a second rate football club.
Deltaforce
DeltafArce.... I'll happily see out the season first and no doubt you mob will be up there... however, where abouts is still to be determined. You lot all assume its a given to be up there but on recent displays (not just against us) you clearly are struggling, didn't West Brom go three up against you at home? Who was that other side... oh yeah Newcastle too... ****... thing of champions that is.
COYS...!
Any club which has won 1 of 68 away games against the four big teams in England is a second rate side.
Deltaforce
Any club which beats its so called 'rivals' just once away from home from 1993-2010 is a second rate side.
Deltaforce
Aww.... he's pulled out is little stats book. Thats cute mate... I don't live in the past mate... but still bring on some more stats should it make you feel better.
COYS...!
What, like us being 4 points ahead of you? Or the fact that you lost to West Ham and Wigan. Inferiority complex all over again, so busy looking at what's going on at the successful end of North London, that you've forgotten to have a butchers at your own doorstep.
Little Dutch
Yeah FOYS...! The only thing between your club and ours is a big encyclopedia of statistics which over time translates into something called history. You are cute but out of your league.
Deltaforce
so delta you have admited that you lost to second rate team at home an been 2 up, an in 08 it it was 4-2 with 3 minutes to go, COYS no point they would never recongise it, as they can be deluded an blinded by the great football they play, you can see there are lowering there expections when cesc plays in the CC
123spurs
Cesc played in the CC against you in the season you won it but not in the biggest away win in a NLD for 38 years a few weeks back. In fact he has only one sub appearance in the CC this season. You're getting a lot of information here 123spud shame it can only go over your head as there nothing inside to hold it. As I said before you won right enough but it's sad (well funny really) that you still aren't convinced enough by it just to be comfortable with that.
Amos.
123, yes I do admit that we lost to a second rate side at home. It happens sometimes - once in 17 years to be exact.
Deltaforce
Or twice in the last year....
Tony Rocky Horror
Then again we've also won twice in the last 13 months.
Amos.
its sad the excues on here from ur lot, oh wait we didnt beat ye, it was ye that lost it yourselves you gave it to us on plate, why rick such an important player, for such worthless cup, delta you keep goin back to the past again snd again, go ahead of it makes u feel better,
123spurs
no amos thats not fair last time you beat us , we handed it to you , well thats the excues we get from you
123spurs
You really aren't the sharpest knife in the box are you 123? No-one has claimed that you didn't really win or really even that you didn't deserve your win. Sure there's a feeling that we fecked up a game that was there for the taking but that's not untrue is it? For you and the other spuds it's largely about the excruciatingly clingy, needy, desperate craving for acceptance that keeps you coming here insisting that everyone here heralds yet another new dawn for you as though it's some sort of seminal moment in your clubs history. For heaven's sake get some perspective man.
Amos.
The last four times Arsenal and Spuds have met the honours have been shared 2-2. But 123 and Troll Rodent Horror are so adept at forgetting their losses. The two victories over the Spuds have been comprehensive - a 3-0 spanking at the Grove last year and a 4-1 tonking at WHL a few months back. Sorry to remind you of something you thought you had blanked out of your mind 123.
Deltaforce
i dint blank my mind, on here it was arse fans saying you handed it to us from amos or vin one of them said that, so why i cant i say same thing, we came back from dead, maybe casue we wanted it more
123spurs
I dont dispute that 123spurs. Your team deserved to win on Saturday.
Deltaforce
That game was a good reflection of both squad depth and current power sharing in NLondon.
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