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Date:Tuesday August 2 2011
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Arsenal - Mata Offer Rejected
Juan Mata`s agent (his dad) has revealed that Valencia have knocked back an offer from the mighty Gunners for the 23 year old Spaniard.
Arsenal have been rumoured to be interested in the playmaker all summer as the Cesc to Barcelona rumours grow in strength. Indeed Wenger`s comments this weekend suggest we`re all but ready to sell.
On the back of that we`ve now learned Arsenal have lodged a bid for Mata, as presumably Wenger tries to fill the gaping hole that Fabregas will leave.
'Valencia simply rejected their offer, after some hesitation they answered 'no' to the Gunners' offer. So my son remains a Valencia player, for now. But I don't think it's their last offer." Said Mata Sr
'There are several offers for Mata and I think that Arsenal will come forward again. The situation is still evolving."
'Are Inter Milan one of the interested teams? I know my son holds Milan in high esteem. We'll see if Inter will come forward directly.'
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It looks like it will be a protracted negotiation with Valencia looking at broadening the list of suitors for Mata's signature. It will be coup if we pull it off no doubt.
Deltaforce
Again, it is down to Barca dragging their feet on Cesc. If we could be certain they will pay for Cesc, it will make a decision all the more easier. How is it when we want to buy a player we are expected to have the full sum in the bank, but Barca can stagger their payments and owe forever?
Naijagunner
Offer Bendtner as bait.
Chelsea24/7
But we have the cash to buy Mata and don't need to sell Cesc to buy so this seems to be yet another pointlessly drawn out saga.
No 10
Probably not if we need to buy a centre back too. Our TPA has around £30m in it approx and if we spend £18m on Mata without selling, it would restrict us if we try to buy Jagielka too. In any case, it looks like Valencia are the ones dragging this out.
Little Dutch
According to my main man Myles, we are going to sign Jagielka and Cahill very soon. Reo-Coker is soon to follow...
Goofle11
Assuming the sales of Eboue and Bendtner go through then surely we would have the capital to buy both Mata and a CB without having to sell Cesc (if Farca offer the sort of money he's worth)
DBerg
Put in a bid for Modric wenger u dick
Uskok
you lot are s h 1 tte, you can't even sign matta when he said come get me. Why don't you let fabregas, van pursey and Nasri go, so you can finish mid table where you deserve and move back to woolwich. do us all a favour !!
YidEdy
Modric will only go to a club that can win things with, erm birmingham, might be a good shout LOL, your right about Wenger though.
YidEdy
the seasons not even started yet,and pond life aka yid edy are already on our site spewing forth the usual crap weve come to excpect from someone with a somewhat blinkered view on life get real you muppet your wasting valuable oxygen
cornish gooner
Lot of anger as ever from the emotionally incontinent dribbling orc filth rabble from the lane. Y so angsty lil fellas? Still not signed a striker? Never mind you have four world class ones there, well...if the world in question is a small one near Endor populated solely by pygmy goats. Or is it just the horrible realisation that your season in the sun is over, out of the public eye again in the ignominy of the Europah, the forgotten club, the footnote of London football...with a crooked manager who has the face of a particularly droopy wrinkly ballbag.
nikolaijns
Well said,nikoJALIN!
Dannism
thanks gimp
nikolaijns
Droppy wrinkly ballbags the world over are currently reeling at the comparison.
fifthcolumnblue
Can you anyone?
footballtaz1
Think we'll eventually sign Mata, and we should get it done and sorted asap in my opinion so that he can get with the team sooner rather than later! Then we can focus on getting a CB! I've read today that Jags is going to stay at Everton, and in my opinion I hope he does so we turn our attention to Cahill!!
bear.imp
I'm not convinced we want either Jagielka or Cahill, do we? As far as I remember, Jagielka was a midfielder for Sheffield United for most of his career (correct me if I'm wrong), before becoming a mid-to-bottom-of-the-table Premier league defender - does he really have the experience everyone's screaming for? How many caps has he won and UEFA games has he played in? Is it as many as Vermaelen, Koscielny, or even Djourou? I like Jag, don't get me wrong, but is he worth sp**king £12,000,000 on and pushing one of our other (more experienced) players out of the team?
As for Cahill, well, he hasn't got half of the experience that Jagielka has...
I think mata will come, but if he doesn' he doesn't. We need to be patent; no business/club will say to a team "well how much do you want, 25? 28? okay, done" - they negotiate and take their time - and they'd be bl00dy idiotds if they didn't. it's worth waiting a week if you can knock 5million of a fee, isn't it.
damiano_tommassi
That butterfaced fanny Myles Palmer has claimed we will sign both Jagielka and Cahill by the end of the week, pffffffftttt sure we will.
nikolaijns
Seriously though, Vermaelen was top class in his first season, and assuming he can avoid more long term injuries he has to play every game he can. then there's Koscielny, who did make a couple of mistakes last year but still looked very good, and I think should be playing. Then Djourou, who I've never been a fan of as centre-back, had a good season. Throw in a backup of Squillaci (when we have to!), youth players (like the impressive Miquel), and Song as a last resort and I don't see the need to spend £30m on a couple of Bolton and Everton players.
damiano_tommassi
Methinks you are treading on rough terrain there, damiano. While you will find a few who will agree with you, re: our sufficiency in the defense, I feel we just need to buy for the heck of it and to prevent the "I told you so" brigade from having a laugh if our defensive frailties continue, as the pre-season didn't help to assuage concerns. I don't see much difference in quality between our defenders and those of the clubs who seem to do better at closing out games so, I am convinced it is a psycological thing, both with our team, fans and our opponents (every team believes it can get a draw against the Arsenal, even at 0-4 down, while our defenders get a feeling of de ja vu, whenever they are up and games enter the dying minutes; the fans are apprehensive). That will change if we get one new face, at the least, in defense. One with EPL experience will make things even better.
Naijagunner
as another bid for Mata's been rejected, do you think that Nasri will be sold to City? and if we make a take it or leave it offer that is supposed to be coming(depending on which paper you read) do you think Wenger will take the money, to up the Mata bid and for another CB/FB? cos i cant see the point of Keeping an unhappy player, much in the same way we have with Tevez? it seems all will be done in late August.....
cityman51
Cityman, (depending on which paper you read) Nasri is 'happy' to stay put for one more year, at least.
Naijagunner
Naija, I'm so glad you said that - "
I am convinced it is a psycological thing, both with our team, fans and our opponents" - because I genuinely believe that the Arsenal fans (not all of them, of course) are the biggest obstacle in Arsenal's success. Booing your own team every game (particularly when they're young lads) HAS to have a negative effect. How often do we talk about a club having a 12th man; of the atmosphere of the crowd pushing a team on? This is worth goals, points and trophies. Contrast that with booing your team at home in a friendly tournament when your greatest ever striker has returned to the club and your reserves have drawn a meaningless friendly. Or the way that Bendtner, Eboue and even the mighty Alex Song were treated...
damiano_tommassi
While our current two starting CB's are excellent footballers, the one thing that Vermaelen and Koscielny dont win enough of is aerial duels. While one would prefer if Vermaelen and Kos start in games against quality opposition who dont boot the ball upfield to their striker all the time, there has to be one CB who is a champion in aerial duels against long ball and set pieces teams. For the 10-15 games in a season home and away against the long ball teams, we need an aerially supreme CB.
Deltaforce
DF, right but if there was one quality TV is lauded for, it is his great leap. It all comes down to collective discipline and what is taken as priority on the training ground; our CBs do win their fair share of headers, but collectively, we fail at set pieces or in balls-over-the-top situations because of discipline. I am not against getting an imposing defender, as is clear from my post above, not because I agree fully that we are lacking something but for the need to just change things for the sake of it.
Naijagunner
*because of indiscipline*
Naijagunner
I agree, Naija - TV generally looks impressive in the air, expecailly at long balls up to the opponent's strikers. I tend to think our problems in defence are caused by our attack; seems to me that the team got a little nervous two years ago through lack of goals, and now flood forward; pushing so far forward reduces the space that we can play in (have 20-odd players within 18 yards of the opponent's goal) and leaves our defence vulnerable to counters. Most of our goals are conceded because we're pushed too high up, and our defenders are only made to look silly because they get isolated and stretched as a result.
damiano_tommassi
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