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How Many Does A Centre Forward Need To Score?
Arsene Wenger has questioned how many times Robin van Persie needs to find the net before it's accepted that he is a centre forward to be reckoned with.
Speaking to arsenal.com Wenger said.
'Robin has scored 28 in 27 games and still people tell me he is not a centre forward. How many goals does a centre forward have to score?'
Wenger continued.
'His movement is exceptional and his confidence is so high that he takes advantages of all situations. I believe that the captaincy has helped to.'
Well it's a fair question. He's certainly not a traditional centre forward by any stretch of the imagination but he's doing the job.
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Who are these "people" you speak of Arsene? And why do you let it bother you?
Bluedub
Why do you let it bother you whether something bothers Wenger or not Bluedub? Just as pointless a point to make isn't it. Wenger's was a reasonable observation to make about general comments concerning RvP's role notably among which Bergkamp recently said that van Persie should play deeper.
Amos.
Why do you let it bother you if something bothers bluedub that bothers Wenger Amos? :) Ok this probably isn't a healthy route for this thread. It's a fair enough comment by Wenger, we've heard it for yonks about how RVP is more of a 2nd striker. Personally speaking I'd rather noone talked about Robin, let's just all STFU let the bloke play and not put any added pressure on the team, especially for those games where he'll be rested (I'm not even mentioning the I word)
nikolaijns
Why are you such a ***** Amos? I'm just making an observation that it shouldn't matter to Wenger what anyone else thinks, as long as he's performing and putting them away that's all that should be of concern to Wenger really.
Bluedub
Why are you letting it bother you that I'm such a ***** Bluedub? I was just making an observation that it shouldn't matter to you what Wenger thinks about what anyone else thinks. If you'd taken the trouble to think about what Wenger was saying rather than whether he is any less entitled to make an observation than you are you'd appreciate that he was indeed simply expressing the view that all that concerns him,and should concern anyone else, is that RvP is putting them away.
Amos.
You really are a barrel of laughs aren't you Amos? I'll bid you adieu and leave the rest of Vital Arsenal to put up with your rambling nonsense.
Bluedub
It does usually fall short of the quality of your pointless interjection here Bluedub but I feel the last few posts have gone some way to satisfying that deficit. Would we be any better off if more posters came here to question whether it is worth making any observations other than those making observations about whether others should be making observations or not? Personally I think we can get by without them. But as long as RvP is putting them away who cares?
Amos.
Back on topic - I would say between 121 and 227
No 10
I think we'd all agree that RVP is more of a creator, playing in the hole and making things happen, than an out-and-out striker. but he's good enough to play up there by himself too. Much like 'Vermaelen can play at left-back, but he's a centre-back really'.
damiano_tommassi
I don't see RvP as more of a creator at all. Look at most of his goals this season, scrappy penalty box affairs. He's scored a ton of them because his movement is so good and because his touch is so good in tight penalty areas. If he wasn't Dutch and the predictable lineage with Bergkamp wasn't so important to people, he'd never be considered any other way.
Little Dutch
I think people just need to think about wording. He is not an out and out striker, in the way that Lineker or Wright were as they they just scored goals and RvP does a lot more. He is a better player than they were because he has more dimensions to his game than just scoring. That is not saying he isn't as good as scoring goals, he is just better at; dead ball delivery, threading through balls, holding the ball up....etc.
RvP is a modern striker perfect for the centre role in a modern 4-3-3 system, just as Ronaldo and Messi are perfect strikers for the wide roles in that system.
No 10
The highest skill level in football is soring goals. If he can score 28 in 27 games why should anyone think that he should play anywhere else - unless they think that he can improve his goal scoring ratio by playing as a "number ten", which of course he will not.
The only downside is that after twenty seven games he is due an injury pretty shortly and I can't see Chamack quite keeping this ratio up!
grouvillegooner
@ grouvillegooner: you make a good point, but just to play devil's advocate, I might say that during much of Robin's high-scoring run, Arsenal haven't been doing that well. Is it possible that if he played behind another good striker, the team would benefit even more? I don't necessarily think so, but you could argue that his relative lack of aerial ability means that we lose one potential avenue for scoring goals.
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