Jack Wilshere Challenges Spurs Fans

That's less then he spends on a Wednesday night at Nandos. Put your hands in your pockets rockefeller

Your right phartman, a weeks wages would be better.

So I assume that both Phartman and thenuge would be ok with donating a weeks wages to charity? It's always amusing to see people bitching about the amount of money sportsmen donate when they give to charity. For those who follow Jack Wilshere on Twitter and pay close attention would know just how much this 19 year old lad has done for the Jack Marshall and his family. all Manchester United fans as it happens.

Strange....All the spuds coming here seam to want Jack to give a full week wages.....but wont commit to £1 them selfs.

I really cant stand that cretin. He thinks he is so good and it will come bk to bite him on the ass if he continues to believe his hype. He is apart from Van persie (who is class) your most important player and would not get in to the spurs midfield. Not only will we finish above you but another double over you. Be lucky jack

£3000? what a tight fisted git. with all the money this scum earns he should donate at LEAST a weeks wages.

Etrilad you gonna win the league mate? Yeah? "THIS IS OUR YEAR!!!" etc etc.

That was easy . . . .

So what some Spurs fans are suggesting is that it's ok for them to believe that their team is going to finish in a certain place, but a player actually putting time and effort into the football matches is not allowed to have a similar confidence whilst trying to do a bit for charity at the same time. Amoebas, the lot of you.

Quite right Rocky. "it will come bk to bite him on the ass if he continues to believe his hype." - like Spurs fans telling us they'll finish above us for the last ten years. That's hype.

"He is apart from Van persie (who is class) your most important player and would not get in to the spurs midfield." - important, possibly - hasn't played this season so far though, has he, during our run of form where we're winning every game (incl. Chelsea). And wouldn't play in Spurs' midfield? Are you having a bubble?

"Not only will we finish above you but another double over you" - excellent, there's that arrogance/hype/insanity we've come to know and love from Spurs fans!

We did the double last season, already beat you at home this season, are above you with a game in hand... how is that insane. And no i dont think he would be ahead of Parker or Modric do you Honestly think he would? You are a team who depends on one player FACT! Oh no wait you have arshavin and mettersaker hahaha

damiano_tommassi.... are we having a "bubble"? so wilshere would replace luka modric or scott parker in central midfield? u silly, silly boy!!

I was on about beating you Home and Away last season and that we did my son COYS

It is good to see this sort of banter from a rival player even if it is one as arrogant as Wilshire. And just a word of advice to my fellow Spurs fans on here. Why bother? Every time they look over at the table on the right of the screen and realise they can't even see us anymore they are reminded who is the top side in NL right now. And you can bet £3000 thats eating away at them more than any comment we put on here. Enjoy your run while RVP stays fit boys ;-)

blah blah blah, replaced Van Persie with "Henry/Fabregas" delete as applicable. And that most definitely won't hurt more, what are your aspirations, really? You're 6pts above us and have a game in hand.... in NOVEMBER mate, November. Honestly I don't know why you lot do it, every year.

so we are 9 points clear then xx

Is that a FACT?

I dont mind you lot. Just cant stand Wiltshire or your manager. I am enjoying it at the moment but do believe we will finish above you

To be fair, its always nice to see some banter. But I do hope Jack knows what he's getting into.. Pride at stake here. And Spurs look horribly strong.

Funny as fck. Good old Spurs- Arse rivalry. Nice to see a player get involved with it. I suggest the Spurs fans that follow Jack take the bet. It's only a pound ffs and for a good cause as well as being a favorable bet. I personally am looking at getting close to the mancs rather than finishing above Arsenal. The way things are going, i wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea finish outside of the CL and Arse or Pool make there way in. Of course Spurs are more than capable of self destructing as we have seen in the past. But, the past is the past:).

Why are Spurs fans following Jack in the first place? I would never follow a Spuddie player.

Wishful thinking there Dutch. Fact is we have just recorded a record annual profit and have de-listed to further our financial growth. Yes we are under pressure to finish top 4 as are yourselves liverpool and Chelsea. How exactly do you think you'll fair if you fail to make CL next season? You lost two of your star players this summer WITH the offer of CL football where as we kept all of ours WITHOUT it. What makes you think RVP will be hanging around should you slump out the top 4 this year??

And on the Harry point, if you think Levy lets him anywhere near transfer fees and wage bills you're more delusional than I thought. Levy is one of the most astute buisnessmen in the Premier League and beleive me there is no chance at all of a Portsmouth / Southampton situation happening at the Lane. But you keep dreaming, I know it helps distract you from your own clubs very real issues ;-)

MJB - Just wondering, if he's such an astute business man, why is he writing begging letters every other week to some council or other for some money or a new house?

So we can have a massive stadium, champions leagues and titles and cups, turning you into our feeder club in the process. Any other questions Harper 7?

So you support Arsenal because of the cannon Guyfox? Good reason:). Don't get stuck in the past, you will end up hanging yourself if you do.

LD, same situation for us . If we miss out on CL, expect Vermaelen and Van Persie and probably Szczesny all leave. Jack might hang around for a few more years. And our board will approve selling these players to match the loss of revenue by missing out on CL.

I have a better chance of hanging myself than Spurs finishing about the Gunners. I'm not the suicidal type. Its not the past, its been happening season after season and twil keep happening. Yes this is a better Spurs than what we have witnessed in yesterseasons. How does that make you finish above us? The league is a 38 game race. And Sajit, we will make the CL. There is only one team at the moment that deserves the top slot, i hate to admit and that is City. Even the champions are looking like a shadow of themselves since the 1-6 bashing at the hands of their neighbours. The next 3 slots are open to any of the following 6 at the moment. So get your heads out of the clouds, you Spuds.

You lot had better just hope that Sidwell doesn't do RVP's metatarsal on Saturday; he's well overdue a sick note.

MJB Spur, you appear to have confused record revenue with record profit. Take tax out and Spurs made £400,000 WITH a Champions League run. Next year's figures won't be so generous. I'm under no illusions we'd lose RvP if we drop out of the top 4. Fact is, most of our team are pretty new so I think they'd stay together in the main. If they don't, they're all tied to long contracts bar RvP and Theo. Sajit, in your quest to be negative you haven't looked at it properly. Tottenham's players aren't as secured as ours, at the very least we'd be reimbursed well. But I genuinely think the likes of Wilshere, Szczesny and Rambo would stay for a season or two and try to get us back in. Most of the rest of the team hasn't been there 5 minutes. Spurs have to qualify just to be able to rebuild some ageing components of their team. Walcott would be arguably our biggest loss given his age. As much as we all want RvP to stay, realistically he only has 2 years left at his prime. Even if they qualify, Spurs have to replace Friedel, Parker, Gallas, King pretty soon as well as renegotiate the terms of Modric, Bale and VdV. If they qualify, they'll still not have much money to get that lot done. If they don't, they simply won't be able to. So it isn't the same for us.

Barring Oxfordspur one fears for the intellect of some Spurs fans over here. An extremely weak grasp of their club's finances, a tenous link to reality and burgeoning optimism every year when faced with whats at best a very mediocre history.

Basically TRH, your argument amounts to, "no, no, no, we've got loadsa money, Levy told me so....you dick." See when you resort to petty insults without provocation, you already told me I've won. Phartman, I'm not saying you're on the brink of doom. I'm just pointing out that your squad isn't hugely long term and you don't have an awful lot in the bank to stay competitive with the bar set by the top 4. Throw in stadium costs and I'm just saying there's still some uncertainty at Spurs when you scratch beneath the surface.

Call it rose tinted if you like, maybe it is. Of course I'd rather not lose RvP and Walcott, but as it stands I think they are the only immediate dangers if we drop out of the top 4. There might be others that agitate, but my point- which appears to be lost on you- is that everyone else is tied to secure contracts which gives us leverage to either a) do as you guys did with Modric and put our foot down or b) at least secure a very decent price for ourselves if we have to sell. I don't reasonably see any of the new guys leaving (with the exception of Benayoun, who is on loan) after less than a year. Even if they do, they're on long contracts which gives us the whip hand. I think the likes of Wilshere, Szczesny and Rambo would stick it out for a year, possibly two. I accept if it went beyond that we'd be looking at losing them. Vermaelen just signed a 5 year deal, again, that seems a fair indication he'd stick out another year. If he didn't, we'd get big money for him. Of course we're talking hypothetical scenarios here, but the fact is, Arsenal are set up better for the worst case scenario than Spurs are. The ages of our respective teams, our accounts and the security of contracts show you that.

The difference is jl, as I've said repeatedly, with the exception of RvP (who is in his prime and will only stay there for another year after this one) and Walcott, we've secured most of our players to good contracts and have them at an age where there's good resale value to be had. Arteta for instance will be 30 in the summer. If we're not in the CL he would be lucky to get a big move to another CL club. Even in the Europa he'd find himself in a better position to that which Everton would be offering, so I think there's a reasonable expectation he'd stay. Our replacing strategy would simply be an easier one for us to handle for us than it is for you guys. Not least because we've got more money. Yes, replacing RvP with or without CL football would be a bitch. But even if you guys qualify for the CL you don't have the money to pay Adebayor what he wants. So this time next year you're going to be looking for a quality striker too. You'll just have less money than us to do it. You'll definitely need a new goalkeeper. If Arry had the faith in Sandro you guys have, he'd not have bought Parker at all. Spurs have already admitted they're looking to renegotiate Modric's terms even though he signed in February, which suggests a certain level of anxiety. You can't really say the hypothesis is "ill informed" because it's mostly hypothetical anyway! Alls I'm saying is that Arsenal have more security than Spurs do. Not to say we're going to be peaches and cream if we don't qualify, but Spurs absolutely have to qualify to have any hope of maintaining the squad- let alone restocking it. On the face of it, Arsenal less so. But of course a lot is down to the vaguaries of player personality. But even in the event of revolt at Arsenal, we'd make a pretty penny added to funds we already have. As for who's the better team. I really, really would've thought by now Spurs would've learned not to make that judgement in November.

....and why would it be easier to replace your players? (oh wait yeah you might have a point there ;) )

Well they've been good enough to qualify us with RvP on the sidelines. Last time I checked, van Persie didn't play in goal, or midfield and doesn't cross the ball to himself. When was the last time Bale signed on? You do realise the Webster clause implications don't you? Once a player's protected period expires you don't have as much power to keep them. Why do you think Spurs are so desperate to give Modric a new contract less than 9 months after he signed his last one? Ultimately, if you're only making £400,000 a year WITH CL football (so you'll have made significantly less in your current accounts) the choice as to whether or not to keep your big players won't be your own anymore. I take it you saw Adebayor's interview yesterday? Where he said he wouldn't drop his £170k a week wage demands? Tottenham's profits could be put towards two and a half week's salary for him.

As for Wilshere, i like the kid. I like this banter and i rate him highly as a player.

As for Jack's wager, it is so much easier for Spurs fans, who follow him on twitter, to simply take him on and accept the bet instead of worrying about the size of his bet. That will signal just how confident they are and it is for a good cause anyway. Plus, it is just 1 Pound! How tight fisted can you get?

To be fair, no other club other than City will pay Ade 170k.. So he will have to pay cut anyways if he is looking for a move away.

At the end of the day this is all a matter of opinion and the proof will be in the pudding. On Ade it's a bit silly to suggest we're "doping" by having him. City are the ones who created a situation where they are paying a player they only wanted for a season twice as much as anyone else could afford. If he's saying now he wants to stay with us but won't negotiate his wages then he can move on. Not that he'd admit now that he probably would take a pay cut anyway. And FYI we are paying Gallas LESS than u offered him, he took a pay cut.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! PAY UP you muppets! Possibly the only support who haven't caught on that the league season is 38 games long, NOT 18!