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Arsene Loses Cool Exterior

Lee Probert is 'naive', Fulham conspired to get Djourou sent off...it was an eventful night in London.

Speaking to the Daily Mail after the controversial 2-1 loss last night, Arsene Wenger pulled few punches in his outrage at the result.

'The moment (Djourou got) the first yellow card they tried every time to get him the second and the referee was naive enough to give it. The referee influenced the game completely the wrong way. We lost the game because we were down to 10 men. The first yellow card was not a yellow card, the second was a foul for us.'

For balance I suppose I should repeat Martin Jol's comments, who insists his players had not tried to get Djourou sent off.

'Maybe he could accuse me of trying to do something, but I don't think players can do that. The only thing I did was put Kerim Frei on and he is an exciting player. Djourou probably could have had a second booking before that to be fair.'

Jol's comments don't really help do they?

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Writer: Arsenal Site Staff Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 3 2012

Time: 3:44PM

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Why would Fulham focus specifically on getting Djourou sent off when they were winning the midfield battle and were pressing for a winner? As Shearer pointed out, the moment the game changed was when Wenger took off Walcott. At that point any chance of being able to play on the break was snuffed out. Arsenal were losing it in the center, every 50/50 was falling to Jol's lads. And Fulham are a good team at home. They penned us back when we went there and we were lucky to get anything, let alone a win. The truth is Djourou made a blunder by reaching for the attacker's shoulder. He was struggling because he was getting very little protection from his midfield who were falling back deeper and deeper. That's what really happened and it's outrageous for Wenger to claim that he was conspired against when in fact it was, once again, the poor performance of his own team that led to their downfall. I can understand him being dissapointed but stay onside when you make these comments. Give Fulham the credit they deserve, they are a force to be reckoned at home and did Arsenal last night, comprehensively.
Tony Rocky Horror
Don't look now TRH, but you almost sounded like someone to be taken seriously.
Naijagunner
Did Wenger speak specifically to the Daily Mail or was this just their reporter's take on the post match press conference? If so, and unsurprisingly really, the reality is rather less fevered than the Daily Mail report. In any event why wouldn't Fulham be expected to try to take advantage of any weakness they perceive? There's no law against trying to get an opposition player to commit a foul and there's no law that says you can't point out that that's what they were trying to do. I can't see why anyone would think there's an issue there either way. Taken in context his comments clearly showed his disappointment but acknowledged our failings to. It's rubbish to say that the game turned when Walcott was substituted. We were under the cosh from the moment the 2nd half kicked off and he had done nothing in the 20 minutes before he was taken off. Rosicky helped us gain a little more control over possession but the game only changed when Djourou went off. Until then we were looking reasonably solid in defence. That said Fulham's efforts had earned a point - the three was a bonus.
Amos.
Almost, but a quick look and you will see that he thinks Fulham were pushing for a winner when Djourou was sent off. Pushing for a winner before you equalize? The fact is when a CB of L/RB gets a yellow card you would expect your strike force to attack them. Not to get them sent off per say but because they can only make honest challenges and may think twice about going to ground or tugging a shirt etc. They are vulnerable and should be exploited, this is double the case if said RB is a CB playing out of position! If Wenger thought Djourou was being targeted and was at risk he should've taken him off. This result was avoidable. Fulham played well, they have a better team than their results or table position implies, but we could've beaten them.
No 10
I think what he was saying is 'from the moment he'd got booked, Fulham players wanted him sent-off any chance they get'. Evidence of this - the 'foul' for the second yellow. Was there any real contact? Did Djourou do anything that Zamora didn't do to him at the same time? Would you be happy to have a penalty given against you for that? It's very common these days for people to hit the floor screaming and call for cards. Sadly.
damiano_tommassi
truth is some things go your way and some dont some of you made some fair coments I like Arsen but would have been nice if he gave fulham some credit this is where he lets himself down
truth sayer ffc
It is in the Spanish league d t which is an absolute disgrace.
Tony Rocky Horror
Unlike Mr Wenger to take a defeat badly?
HuddersfieldYiddo
Indeed Hudd, and for a guy with a famous tendency to selective myopia he is suddenly capable of reading the intentions hidden in people's minds too! Hmmm...
Tony Rocky Horror
Good 'ol Vinegar chops reverting to type. But to suggest Jol's comments don't help.... dear oh dear.
lordjohnny
 

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