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Wenger Is Vital To A Champions Leagueless Arsenal

Following our horrendous start to the season we`d made a pretty decent recovery, however the good run of results is all but a distant memory as three defeats on the bounce leaves us with a Herculean task in order to qualify for next seasons Champions League.

As one of the most obscure seasons in terms of results continues at warp speed we find ourselves in a possible 5-way battle for two places to contend with Europe`s elite for 2012/13 if you, like I, believe that Spurs will drop sufficient points over the next month to eliminate them from their frankly impressive title charge.

That said I`m not sure we have what it takes to catch Chelsea, never mind our North London neighbours. For the first time in 15 years I don`t think we will finish in the top four.

During the 2-1 defeat at the hands (feet) of Manchester United at Ashburton Grove on Sunday there was audible air of descent amongst the assembled Gooners (rather perversely when we were pressing to win the game), many pressing the manager to "spend some fucking money" or declaring that he doesn`t know what he`s doing shortly after a substitution that saw the horribly out of form Andre Arshavin replace the ever impressive Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain that seemingly "cost us the game".

Indeed the chorus omitting from the red and white patron`s of The Grove for the board to replace Mr Wenger is beginning to grow following our impending exclusion from the European Cup next season.

However I`m of the opinion that in the likely event that we are participating in the Europa League next term that the retention of Arsene Wenger`s services will be more vital now than ever before.

The board at Arsenal Football Club have gone to quite some effort to convince it`s followers that a lack of CL football wouldn`t be too detrimental to our bank balance despite the "loss" of a potential £30M, so considering our manager`s apparent lack of desire to spend said "fucking money" the financial aspect of not qualifying for the Champions League is not something we really need concern ourselves with.

There has long been a theory that any team failing to secure a season in Europe`s premier competition would no longer be able to make signings of any quality as apparently non of the teams outside the Champions League places in all of Europe`s top leagues are an attractive enough prospect for any decent player to want to play for.

Of course this isn`t a theory I buy into.

However even if the theory proved correct, I fail to see how it would really apply to Arsene Wenger`s Arsenal.

There is a famous Arsene Wenger quote that many Gooners feel a little pride about after the Frenchman simply claimed "At Arsenal we don`t buy world class players, we make them". And I feel that`s as true now as it was back when those words first fell from Arsene`s lips.

A brief glimpse of some of the more favoured players in our squad right now should shed some light on my theory. I mean, consider turning back the clock and imagining that Laurent Koscielny, Thomas Vermaelen, Robin van Perise or Wojciech Szczesny signing for Tottenham or Liverpool, would we have given it a second thought? I think not.

Indeed one of the massive talents of our manager is his ability to spot a player playing beneath himself at some obscuere club and present him with the opportunity to really make a name for himself in one of the world`s top leagues, and for the most part, that opportunity is ceased.

To sum up, not only should we not sack our manager, we should do all we can to ensure he`s still here next season ESPECIALLY if we miss out on the Champions League, because there is no better man out there qualified to ensure we can still aquire players capable of getting us back into the Champions League.

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Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 24 2012

Time: 12:51PM

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As LD corrctly point out on Twitter the other day, one of the few players Wenger actually went out and spent a substantial chunk of money on was booed as he stepped onto the field on Sunday. I think it's safe to say that sometime, as fans, we need to take our heads from our arses and understand that we don't know as much about football as we'd like to think.
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24/01/2012 13:01:00

I think that's a rather generic statement Rocky, one that's applicable to every football fan on the planet. Whilst some may agree with you, at the same time it's important to realise that Wenger isn't beyond question, pointing out flaws and airing annoyances are just part of being football fans
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24/01/2012 13:25:00

Cudnt agree more, i know were all hurting with the results of late but sacking Wenger will be the biggest mistake we could make. I still think we can make Champions League football there's a very long way to go in the season and with Wilshere to come back i think we can make a strong push till the end of the season.
Van Persie
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24/01/2012 13:33:00

Agree with this article and its tone 100%. And with Rocky7.
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24/01/2012 13:44:00

Wenger certainly isn't beyond questioning, nobody is, indeed we should be always looking to improve. Paradoxically, whilst it could possibly be Wenger's "fault" that we're going to miss out on the CL, I see him as the only current available manager who could theoretically get us back in.
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24/01/2012 13:56:00

I'm not saying Wenger should depart as manager, but something needs to change at AFC if we seriously want to challenge for honours in the coming seasons. We can't simply rely on having to have our first 14 players fit in order to remain competitive. Our squad players have to be better and be able to come in when needed and do a job. Something in Wenger has to evolve, otherwise top 4 is the only thing we can aim for and I'm not sure how many people will continue to fork out ticket money just for that. And without breaking the bank, we need to add real quality to the squad. On the bright side, you can only imagine what a team with Wilshere, Ramsey, The Ox and Ryo could be if they all fulfil their promise. Wenger does deserve the chance to build one more team, probably his last. I am sure he's inspired by the heights that Barca are reaching in football currently and will want to emulate this. But please, let's start by being more defensively strong and stop leaking silly goals.
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24/01/2012 14:09:00

I don't think I can agree with anyone 100%, having your head up your arse can work both ways, whether you think Wenger can do no wrong, of you think he can do no right, it just adds to the fragmentation of our support.
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24/01/2012 14:16:00

100% agree with shewore....oh wait. In all seriousness though what I see is frightened gooners, afraid of the future, the Wengerless future, safely wrapping themselves up against the outside world in their navy blue le boss approved sleeping bag. Wenger is going nowhere despite what anyone wants or doesn't want there is no way in Hades the board is going to pay him severance, 14 mill at the mo 7 mill by the summer, not going to happen, especially as they're relying on Wenger to give them his successor, especially as it was Wenger who took part in interviewing Gazidis for his job lol, wish I could interview any of my prospective bosses. Nope he's here until his contract expires. Nothing is going to change vin, if it was it would have happened by now, despite RVP's recent backing his reaction to the sub spoke volumes, that one unguarded moment confirmed to me my worst fears of how the players feel about Wenger, they don't know what he's doing anymore, the belief is gone in the man and it's going to be a long painful couple of years. Very sad to witness.
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24/01/2012 14:34:00

The article says that Spurs will drop enough points that they won't end up in the top four and that Arsenal won't end up in the top four. So who does the writer think will end up in the top four? Liverpoo? Newcastle Bar Codes? Stoke? lol. At least the author is reconciled to Arsenal ending up fifth or lower. With blokes like this around, I'm thinking of opening up a bookies shop.
Total knobhead
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24/01/2012 14:50:00

I'm not afraid of a Wengerless future anymore than I'm afraid of a van Persieless Arsenal. It's just my opinion that Wenger's ability to inveil a diamond from the rough will be essential to us getting back into the CL should we fail this season.
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24/01/2012 14:51:00

TKB - Living up to your username I see. Go back and read again and you'll note I offered an opinion that Spurs will drop points in the coming weeks to eliminate them from the title race.
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24/01/2012 15:02:00

dt, i suspect you are actually arsene wenger
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24/01/2012 15:23:00

i say, let's move wenger up to become the football director. he'll be responsible of scouting, signing of players and balancing the account. we could even allow him to hold dual position. he can be the academy development director too, developing young players that he signed. these are the jobs he likes most and best at. get a no nonsense manager like mourinho who is coincidentally unhappy at madrid. with a little luck, c. ronaldo could follow him here too
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24/01/2012 15:31:00

niko - i know, mate. And sadness is the overriding emotion I feel about the situation currently. Like you, I've never felt so apathetic about a big game as I was going into the Manure game. Frankly, my belief in Wenger/club strategy has been slowly drained over the last few years to the point where it's almost empty.
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24/01/2012 16:36:00

Wenger doesn't want a post like that Joe, he wants the frontline, remember him stating a while back that he would never work under a director of football and that's fair enough, I'm sure most managers would say the same, it's just someone sticking their oar in interfering with a team you are paid to manage. I'd imagine his feelings on this would extend to whoever his eventual successor may be. I'd imagine a place on the board would await him when he does call it a day, which will be great to have a footballing man in the boardroom again.
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24/01/2012 17:03:00

@ Vin, I know. It's hard to lower your expectations when we've been used to a certain standard of player and being always in the position to challenge both at home and in Europe for many years. These times were always going to come and although there is still some fantastic talent at the club our days of seriously challenging for major honours have seemingly passed. For me the realisation was only this summer when we let the two wantaways leave whilst the burden of keeping us competitive passed to two talented children one of which was only just returning from a career threatening injury. Also the reluctance to bolster with loanees in the full back and striker dept to me shows we are not taking the two competitions we remain in with any real degree of seriousness.
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24/01/2012 17:18:00

In the past, Wenger has had enough quality on the pitch to allow him to introduce his next product/products at his own pace. Senior players leaving has left a massive hole in your first 11 but his stubbornness hasn't let him do anything about it. You've always had senior players on the pitch to help the youngsters along but i don't see them anywhere now. It's become the job of your two most promising youngsters to provide the foundation for the current team, that can't work to the level of the other clubs around you so he needs to buy. That being said, where he's not used to doing quick fix transfers, the ones he has done have, i think, been poor.
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24/01/2012 18:11:00

niko, i know wenger won't accept it. it's my constructive sarcasm. it is gonna be tough to lure players here without cl with the kind of wages we pay. existing players will always be tempted to leave. rvp for sure. who's next? vermaelen, kos, szczesny, gervinho and even ox. when barca & man city come knocking with 20-30 mil, our board will sell definitely. that's what happened in the past. it's all about the $$$ for afc. by that time when wenger declare the target for the season is top 10, some of you lots will come out and say "look we have 500 mil reserve sitting in the bank. compare our spending with fulham, stoke & sunderland we are still the better managed club"
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25/01/2012 03:40:00

I've seen signs of improvement in Wenger this season, although some of them have been enforced changes. He has admitted defeat with the 'youth experiment' and has changed his approach accordingly (with Arteta & Mertesacker being signed). The defence showed solid signs of improvement (till 3 games back). Exactly the 2 major improvements that we wanted to see, have actually happened. I completely understand the reluctance to sign another full back permanently. I'd rather have Vermaelen failing at LB, rather than sign Bridge on loan. This season has not gone well, and we will probably finish outside the top 4. I would like to wait till the end of the season, see how this team fights it out till then, before concluding that Wenger can take us no further.
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25/01/2012 08:17:00

I've agreed with Rocky many times before and I'll continue here. I really think that AW would be a great manager to lead us through a Europa league run and take us back into a CL position. - I actually think it will be Chelsea whom drop out of the top 4 to our advantage. But if he can't make up the lost ground AW should stay. If we do I think then I think some serious talking needs to happen. I know this is counter intuitive (to sack a manager for finishing 4th but keep him if he gets 5th) but if AW gets 4th and is happy to aim for 4th next season then that isn't good enough. If he can be decisive in the first few weeks of the summer transfer: get in the quality to shake up, or at least push, the first team. Add the three or four players that he, and most of use, would give us a genuine title challenging squad then fine. But if he says 'Diaby is a new signing' or 'it is difficult to buy a top quality striker because we already have Robin' 'there is no-one better than what we have' etc. etc. then I really think that another manager could come in and do a very good job. ----- Pep Guardiola, Joachim Low, Martin O'Neill, Guus Hiddink I think any of these guys could use 30 or so war chest to good effect. I read a good article about how AVB would be much better suited to Arsenal the Chavs, it made a lot of good arguments actually.
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