Arsenal vs Norwich

we are far to open at the back still

I'll cry if we ***** it up now

Ramsey doesn't know the essence of his position. When Song is up there to assist the attack, Ramsey is nowhere to be found.

And who's fault is that Arsinger? Ramsey has gone backward in the last year so much. Positional play is taught, but we either dont practice it or it is so badly done that the players dont know what to do half the time.

lol redemption and then what? oh yea lets throw it all away again by all means..

And now for the excuses....

I dont want to blame the missed penalties.. We have absolutely no right to complian.. Im ******** agnyr.. ***** off.. ********s..

Lmfao! I phucking love it! Mind the gap u little (unts!!!

Bye bye 3rd place

Oops.

Now, I know Newcastle are going to win against City and Spurs will stuff Villa. Surely, there can't be that many more twists and turns in the season.

Becouse they know this side will crumble and latch on to any excuse to loose a game if the going gets tough. Its a lack of courage and is down to the manager. Please dont give me the ******** AKB spiel that this is down to the board and players not doing their job. The board has given him the money and all the support he needed over the years and he has let them all down by rewarding mediocre players at best with bumper contracts and stood by crocks and wantaways to the detriment of the squad and club. As for players not doing their job these are the players he chooses day in day out and coaches (or not as is obvious with our brilliant defensive play)

I expect Newcastle to lose and Spurs to draw or lose now that the pressure is on THEM. No point in cussing off the boss and players yet- you could be eating humble pie in 8 days. That said, Chesney had a shocker- the first Norwich goal was a joke and some of his handling and distribution was pub league. And Ramsey also deserves mention for his display- no effort, no understanding of his role.

This squad just is patently incapable of handling any form of pressure, we've been gifted this position by the frillywhites who themselves were guilty of the biggest bottle of the decade now we are equally if not more culpable. A goal up with 10 mins left against a team out of steam and we still contrive to throw it away gifting them back into it with appalling ease. Pathetic. Utterly unfit for purpose. Podolski better only be the start of this summers' activities. Although we'll probably turn him into an indirect, shot shy feeble fanny merchant after 6 months.

Sorry to say it but it's just not a CL standard squad, they will have found their level at Europah and even then will blatantly melt at the first stiff challenge. Just signed up to be an organ donor, with the strict instruction that should I die Arsenal must be in receipt of my backbone.

Whats the matter wiltshire? was your haystack wet when you woke up this morning? Why the potty mouth tourettes schoolchild tirade? Are you getting your anger in early for when sp*rs still manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of glory? Either way jog on and fill your nappy elsewhere.

the fixture ain't over yet. this is a season like no other..

We deserve every abuse we get from spurs fans. It's their time now. :(. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.

If we get into 4th place now it will because Newcastle and spuds throw it away. How ironic is that? few weeks ago all where hailing this team as something to look forward to next season....all I see is the same as 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007 etc. If we want to have a shot at silverware whare we need to change what we are doing and quite frankly I dont see that happening.

How sweet zombie. Would u like to send them a box of tissues and some chocolates?

vermealen & gibbs didn't seem to communicate today. the weakest link was evidently our midfield. there was a huge vacuum between the defense and the midfield. who was our defensive midfielder today? everyone was at the other end of the field leaving the defenders to fend for themselves. 3-2 with less than 10 mins to go and still we were so naive & neglect the basic defending duties. just speechless

Broken leg for Bacs, no euros for that lad.

Ouch! That's so sad. It looked such an innocuous stretch when he went for that ball and now, this.....? Maybe, his rival for the RB position has put a jinx on him :-)

I don't want to come all over Kevin Keegan, but..well... I think all Spurs fans will know where I'm coming from tonight....I seriously will.

henry u dirty man........ u want to come all over kevin keagan

Wyn, totally agree. There's no doubt that Norwich were impressive today for which they deserve credit. However, any team with serious ambitions has to be able to cope with the various challenges that come up. I disagree with those saying the players werem't up for it; I don't buy that for one minute. Our biggest failing is about dawareness, shape and concentration when we don't have the ball and that is totally the fault of the manager. I can't see much changing even if we bought Hazard, Goetze or M'Vila to be honest, we'd still bottle it.

great game DVD

norwich beat us and after that they wee shocking untill today

That said, Wenger also deserves a lot of credit for being 3rd in the table with this team, and he has been getting that recently. He will get criticized for a team;'continued failings, I don't see the issue with that.

prits, good luck with getting any kind of cogent response or debate from Always 'keep calm and carry on' Gunner. He seems to have very little interest in cause and effect, and is more interested in questioning the loyalty of other fans.

I can't believe we've thrown this away. It's almost criminal. Though I thought the Spurs fans might have learned their lesson by now (some of them have it seems, but not enough). We might be doing our best to cock this up, but we are still two points in front, and you're doing just as good a job as we are at making a complete cockend of this season.

I would normally agree Vin, but the chase for the CL is become more and more ridiculous each week. Even if by some miricle we do finish above Spurs it's not going to be something I'll brag about, because it's just a competition to see whose the least sh**est in North London rather than who's the best.

Know what you're saying, Rock, but villa are under the kind of pressure that Norwich were not allowing them to play without any fear whatsoever. It's all about momentum and spuds and Newcastle have it.

alwaysgunner ...feck off you dull old fart. Noone here has said ANYTHING about Wenger. If you are so sensitive & find it so difficult to accept any criticism of our club then don't read the comments, you seem to have no concept of the idea of a forum where critique and discussion is offered, what's more you have no concept of the word irony, ie you carping on and dumping on other people about them carping on and dumping on other people.

I think I went into a stage of depression yesterday.

heh naija, what will be will be now. Y'know people bang on about complacency, about arrogance, about underestimating the opposition, about this about that but really what it boils down to and noones really mentioned is that we just aint that good anymore. The harsh truth that neither manager, players & fans want to come to terms with. We just aint all that, Our empire for the time being has had it's day, we still yearn for the Pires Henry Bergkamp Llungberg era but it's an era ago and foolishly prematurely disbanded with the misguided deluded haughtiness that it's easy to accomplish and can be done again at will. I for one just can't be arsed to pray for citeh villa wins today, for what? so we can go and bottle it come the last 16 next year? meh. Give the barcodes a pop at it, they really want it.

Hear! Hear!! Niko. The thing is we don't need too much to get to those levels. Why the Manager won't take the needed decisions, I won't know. Anyway, I live in hope.

Lol. That's quoting the Manager there. Hehehe!

Still meh, we'll still choke @ the baggies.

City have won it. 2-0.

Spurs back in it. 1-1.

As for Wenger, he's been far more critical of the team this season than in the past. I dont feel like he offered many excuses after this game as well, just that he does not come up with solutions to recurring issues.

Spurs fan here in peace (if there is such a thing) - Well done on 3rd. Cannot see you getting beat by WBA. As for us, our manager has fecked us well and truly by his decisions. And i have money on us getting 4th and losing the place to Le Chavs!!! Well done once again!!

The Chicken has fallen of the basketball. Again. Does the team sans Arteta have the balls to capitalise..doubt it.

With a blatant penalty denied at the death against Norwich, no penalties at home ALL season, we deserve the luck thats come our way. Big changes needed in midfield, I understand why the interest in a defensively awarre midfielder exists, Song can go roaming all over the place assuming his partner will hold in his absence but Ramsey is no Arteta. TV 5 needs to ask himself questions about his positioning in the game as well. With Song roaming, there is no need for TV to roam as well. Norwich was the worst game Szczesny has had at the club and one hopes he learns from that awful performance. Cup final against West Brom ahead. Come on!

Delta we could have easily had two pens against us yesterday too, let's be objective here mate.

Niko, we're still 3rd in the table, despite events of last summer (which the club should have handled better). Can this team challenge for the Premiership next season? I think the gap will be lesser than 16 pts, but I don't think there will be a meaningful challenge to the title. Perhaps a couple of good cup runs. Perhaps, I should have phrased it better. If you look at the resources with Chelsea, Pool, City and ManU (all have higher wage bills than Arsenal), I think 3rd place (if we can get over the line) is quite an achievement for this team.

It was a messy challenge Delta and I've seen em given, it was a valid claim as although yep he got the ball it was after getting the player. Obiously I'd be ecstatic with 3rd given our position earlier in the year and I think all involved would've taken it being in our own hands against West brom come the final game, if only for the fact we'll be able to attract a higher class of mercen..sorry player. Apologies if my posts seem downbeat but I'm still feckin livid at the appalling amateurish chickenheads conspiring to throw 3-2 into the dustbin yesterday. Steaming upfield to leave us exposed and ceding possession so cheaply after all the hard work to claw back into the lead just makes me feel sick thinking about it.

No doubt about the porous nature of our midfield currently. A midfield of Rosicky, Ramsey and Song has lacked organisation, strength and caution. Perhaps Coquelin can do a job there with Jenkinson slotting into the right back position for the West Brom game.

Niko, your line above saying 'because everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home' is just about the best explanation in one sentence i've read on our predicament. Brilliant, and correct. To think that Wenger genuinely believes there is no difference between our squad and Man City/Utd is startling, worrying and sums it all up. Yes, we've been given another chance next week but i have absolutely zilch faith that we will get a draw, let alone a win. As he normally does, Arseblogger summed it up perfectly today: different players, different seasons, same problem. It is as simple as you say about us just not having the players anymore. When we used to win, the Henrys, Bergkamps, Vieiras of this world were better players than the opposition. Now we simply don't have the best players. If all it takes is one player, Arteta, to be absent for the whole team to fall apart defensively, you have to ask serious questions on our coaching (or lack thereof). Even if we do finish 3rd, I for one believe it's time for change at AFC and that we are ready for the next phase, the post-Wenger phase of our Club's development. Perhaps let him see his contract out and then do all we can to get Guardiola in.

I'm not sure that guardiola is the answer, he's achieved success with probably the greatest club side any of us has ever seen in our lifetimes but could he do it on a wet decembers' evening in stoke lol. He has been battered into a psychological semi retirement by Maureendaho, so would we want that? a fragile man burnt out by four years at the top, we have no real idea what we'd be getting, CL winner for sure, but again with that team even bleedin Allardyce could've won the thing! Far from convinced.

I disagree on the point about Wenger working at Arsenal without pressure. Working as a manager of a club which has given its manager f all as a transfer budget for the past 5 seasons and still expect to be in the top 3-4 teams in the most competitive league in the world does involve significant pressure. If a new manager had propelled Arsenal from 17th to 3rd in the league since that United hammering, we would be singing his praises. Wenger has been trying to change the poweder puff fragility which has characterised our style of play of the previous squad but it will take more time to become more robust. A final chance next season is something AW will have earned IF we play in the CL again. I'm with Niko on Guardiola - the grass always seems greener on the other side.

I am just thankful that we have been given another chance to get 3rd spot. Phew! That was close. Just hope we don't cock things up again.

No it won't make me happy but neither does it make me happy for a gooner such as yourself shooting down other gooners for displaying views they are perfectly entitled to make. None of the comments above in my opinion are out of order or even that critical of Wenger, you're reading what you want to read in order to slate others for what you perceive as lesser support and frankly it's getting pretty tiresome, so you're some uber supporter thats supported us through two world wars and the battle of waterloo well bravo sir, I'm surprised you can put the rattle down long enough to type. This is a forum where ALL views are shared, if you don't agree and I don't with plenty then fair enough, you put your view across and argue the toss, just pulling people up by name and issuing lame sarcasm combined with dismissals of their support isn't big or clever. You tell us to grow up telling us it's only a game, yet you're the one getting personal with us? footballs' emotional and sure some things are said in the heat of a loss so what? you grow up and deal with it.