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Robin van Stapleton

Both Arsenal and Manchester United's official websites have confirmed tonight that the two clubs have reached an agreement over the transfer of Robin van Persie to Manchester United. The BBC are reporting that the deal is believed to be in the region of £24m. The 29 year old has 1 year left on his deal.

A statement on the Arsenal website read:

Arsenal Football Club can confirm that terms have been agreed for the transfer of Robin van Persie to Manchester United.

Van Persie will travel to Manchester on Thursday in order to agree personal terms and complete a medical ahead of the proposed move.




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The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday August 15 2012

Time: 7:28PM

Your Comments

I can't stand this team continually selling to league rivals. 24m is a lot of money to turn down, but I thought this time Arsenal was finally going to show some balls.
gunnerkid107
Alex Song also came in to say goodbyes to teammates today. He is also off to Barca. What a radical change.
Arseniger
I think I speak for everyone when I say ... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Rocky7
I think Arsenal never wanted to give Song contract extension based on inside information on his age, and have sold a 34yrs Old dude to Barca. Arsenal overused him in the last 2 yrs and got their money worth. RVP has been replaced by Giroud and Poldi, the only question is can they adapt to BPL. If yes, we just sold 1 for 2.
Arseniger
2 new players need to be brought in if Song is indeed off to Barca.
gunnerkid107
If he doesn't want to play for us, good riddance. By the way, how do you know all that about Song, Arseniger? What are your sources?
FunGunner
AN UTTER DISGRACE. Boooooooooo indeed ):-(
julieloveshenry4ever
24 mil for a 29 year old who has been injured for a majority of his career and has only had one 1 good fully fit season?! Unless he recreates last seasons efforts for the rest of his career for us you fellas have prospectively pulled our pants down in front of the world.
TheFamousNo7
You have signed genuine world class in Santi, hes like a world class version of Arshavin so he will soften the blow of RVP. Not sure about Giroud and Podolski although both have qualitys. With regards to Song hough i never rated him, despite being worshipped on here. I take it he's now only half decent now hes leaving then?
HuddersfieldYiddo
This is a lateral move for Robin Van Persie and one that screams of desperation for Fergie. Best of luck to both of them.
Arsene_Wonder
Amazed Wenger would sell anyone to that lot. Oh well, a fit RVP improves the rags immeasurably, but I am rather glad City didn't take the risk.
fifthcolumnblue
I genuinely believe Arsenal are just as likely to win something as United this year, they were awful last season, we've brought in 3 world class players in their prime, they've brought in a player who can be world class ... or injured. 50/50.
Rocky7
I never hated Nasri or Cesc -- only Cashley & Ade. And even with them that's dissipating (esp Cashley). But this one will last a very long time. Maybe forever. You don't go to United. Esp a player so completely supported, nurtured & developed by a manager and club he publicly insulted. Nor am I convinced by any attempts to sugar-coat this. This is the supreme betrayal--shabby treatment of a club he owes so much to.
jaelle
***** you RVP. That is all I have to say.
Ned Stark
They were awful?! Are you kidding? They beat us by a combined score of 10-3, finished 19 points ahead of us, and lost the league on goal differential. A down year for them would have been a great year for us.
gunnerkid107
If there is a positive spin to put on this sad, sad event it must be this..... All Great teams re-invent themselves... this is Arsenals chance, they have been too predictable with the same players for the last few years. ~Now we have some new blood and we'll wait and see how they bed in! COYG!
Garthygooner
Garthygooner we've pretty much sold our best players since '05 every summer.... is that reinventing itself right? Gunnerkid, well said, Rocky WTF are you on about, awful??
shewore
Just hoping the Song rumour is not true because we are gonna have a tough time bringing in two more new signings before the window shuts. Is it a bit too ambitious to suggest that we should try to hijack the Llorente to Juve transfer? I mean money should not really be an object. Are we getting the 24 mil up front or does it consist of lots of add on's? Just hope this fiasco does not put Sahin off joining.
Ned Stark
Difficult to be dispassionate about this,but the fact we are selling to a rival (again) does not do us any favours. It's hard to take when we have been trophy-less for a long time,I always wish ex Arsenal players all the best (with a couple of mercenary examples) but there is only so much we can take as fans.Time will tell obviously but I for one am not filled with great optimism for this season.
Danielsagooner
Yeah Man Utd were awful last year. Yohan Blake was *****e aswell in the Olympics
HuddersfieldYiddo
"He came to replace van Persie, Giroud, Giroud, he came with his mate Podolski, Giroud Giroud, He's going to score, he'll never miss, he'll do it without horse's *****, Olivier Giroud, Arsenal's number 12."
Rocky7
Sure HY - If Yohan Blake had been absolutely whooped in every race leading up to the Olympic 100M final and then be leading said 100M by 20 meters only to fall flat on his face.
Rocky7
Rocky bless ya mate, no song writing credits for you for that hideous recycled Manc/Scouse song. Utd were 1 second away from winning the league last year and led it for a good chunk, not that bad pal! i'll put it down to your emotional state
shewore
Man U were awful, simply comparing them to our ***** season does not mean they had a good season.
Dberg
It's only good business for us if we reinvest. I can take or leave Song to be honest. Word is he's getting a bit haughty, which I've been hearing for a while. Replace both by using the money and I'm cool (though constant transition like this is questionable), if not, well, we'll see.................
Little Dutch
Shewore, Man U should have won the league but bottled it, had that been us how much do you reckon we would have slammed the team? At the end of the since trophies are all that seem to matter they did no better than us, who gives a ***** how many points ahead of us they were, it got them nothing.
Dberg
***** off you ****
Sajit
You guys got a decent deal on RVP. You just know he'll be injured by January :) The only good thing from the modrat deal is that he went abroad, was that worth 15m? dunno.
Himwhatwhats
Not difficult to imagine Song doing that with a bit of smoke blown up his arse. okay Dberg Utd were as good as us last year if you say so, same as Wigan etc yeah? No. Utd were not awful ffs.
shewore
One second away from winning the league maybe ... but they were 8 points clear. Fergie's teams don't f*** like that unless there is something fundamentally wrong with them. Not to mention they only ended up in that position because City had a monumental slip up that will not happen again I think. United got knocked out of the CL in the group stages, beaten by Basel in the Europa League, got knock out the FA Cup in the 4th round by Liverpool, knocked out of the Carling Cup by Crystal Palace and got beat 6-1 at home by City. In what stretch of imagination is that a good season for Manchester United?
Rocky7
Robin who? Just hope the fella gets on with his job at utd and doesn't talk trash about arsenal like other players. I'm surprised fergie fronted that cash for basically a 30 year old striker who is now going grey. I can see him maybe having 2 good seasons at utd then getting shipped out for young blood. If he had stayed at arsenal, wenger would have extended his career at a top flight club for at least another 6/7 years like bergkamp, playing him in a more withdrawn role. In 2/3 years he will massively regret this.....maybe even sooner. Such a shame, but as with Henry life will go on t arsenal, and another king will step into those shoes......personally I would like to see podolski playing through the middle with the option of bringing on giroud and moving poldi wide. I just have a feeling that podolski will hit the ground running and surprise a few people. I think he really wants to put his munich demons to bed.
gunnerman76
Just saw it on Arsenal's website. I don't think he'll be missed after just one injury-free season. If he had performed at this level for past 5-6 seasons, it would hurt to lose him. United certainly took a gamble on an injury-prone 29 year old. I think his departure actually might improve the team by transforming it from a one-man show to a multi-pronged attack. Stop RVP and you stop Arsenal. Now they have to deal with Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla, AOC, Wilshere... simultaneously.
gunnerfan1987
If United had a good season would Fergie be worrying and spending £24M on a a striker with one year left on his contract? I don't think so.
Rocky7
Last time Fergie spunked a massive wedge of cash on a 30 year old striker who'd had one decent season in North London it didn't work out too well for said striker.
Rocky7
Come on Rock, there's a difference between it being "not good" and "awful". Not gonna harp on about it but if they were awful what were we? I think Berbatov was a bit younger as well, so yeah, here's hoping he breaks down eh. Re the squad this hasn't changed my thoughts over the last couple of seasons that we need a defensive midfielder. Please Arsene, please sign some top top quality there, no other option if we're serious about not just balancing the books.
shewore
Man City played this well. They fained interest and freaked Utd out, Old Gout Face bit on it and Utd spent fortunes. Arsenal have done well out of this. I'll say this though, to those saying "he only had one good season and we won't miss him"...come on guys! He's a world class player and anyone would miss him. Some of the goals that f'cker scores are out of this world.
Himwhatwhats
We were f***cking shocking SW, there's no hiding that. Only a great run of games saved us, but that doesn't mean anyone who finished above us had a better season ... infact, given a choice would you have rather had our season, or theirs? Their football was bad, and in fairness it was only that sodding 8-2 loss at Old Trafford which makes our stats look so much different. Without that they're marginally better than us .... and we were awful.
Rocky7
Also rocky, it worked out well enough for Berbatov to be top scorer. I guess the days of players leaving on good terms are well and truelly over? THe last one i remember was for you guys funny enough. Henry. Poss' the last time?
Himwhatwhats
"He's a world class player". Of that there is no doubt. But that talent is of no use if he's constantly on the treatment table, which has been the case with exception of last year.
gunnerfan1987
I almost can't believe Wenger would sell to such a key rival as United. I am, however, willing to go with the positive spins put to this and will remain positive. The deal is a good one for the club though and I hope they put him on a par with Rooney's wages; that will make it all the more sweeter when the inevitable happens. Goodness! Still reeling from this.
Naijagunner
Hope the *****er breaks both his ankles when Shawcross lands him a good one.
Sajit
Here is Wenger's word on TF1 when asked about the transfer "Itís sad to lose a player of his quality. He had a year left on his contract so we didnít have the choice". He was also asked if he was going to replace him, his response "We already recruited to replace him". This confirms Grimandi statement back in July. Olivier Giroud is his replacement.
Arseniger
If there's one thing I've seen is that almost any striker that Wenger sold, never achieved the same level of performance after leaving. Don't think RVP will be any different.
gunnerfan1987
Bit of revisionism going on here, he is our eighth top scorer of all time, which suggests more than "just one good season." The injury prone line is overplayed too I think. They've all been hard impact injuries, he's not hobbling off every five minutes holding his calf a la Diaby. Face it, United are going to team the best striker on the planet in his prime with Rooney next season and Valencia knocking balls in for him all day. It's formidable and it hurts because he didn't go to oil money. We can't hide behind the "money grabbing mercenary" line like we have with Cole and Nasri. He went because he feels he has a better chance of winning there and that's a slap in the face for the club and it hurts us too.
Little Dutch
We are still short at the striker position. Besides the Giroud and Podolski, who else can play up top? Chamakh or Chu-Young Park are not realistic options.
gunnerkid107
Here's hoping he injures himself tonight and fails his medical. You know what we just need Saturday to come round and see the awesome Poldi, Carzola, Giroud in action along with AOC, Walcott, Kos etc and we'll soon forget the (unt
Dberg
Hurts me more than anything what this club has become over the last 8 years, this is such a statement of intent - our best players are up for grabs every fecking summer, and by English clubs
shewore
Now is NOT the time for logical reasoning LD!!
Sajit
Besides LD, his wages are supposedly on par with Rooneys..So we CAN hide behind the mercenary excuse. And finally, no club guarantee trophies but with 36 mi in purchases, we had a better chance htan last year at trophies...So his excuse that Utd have a better chacne is also flawed. Well, they have a better chance than us of course , but the keyword here is CHANCE.
Sajit
But take this one aberrant season of 30+ goals outside and the picture changes, doesn't it? That's the point of pointing out the exceptionality of the last season. This is his goals record per season from 10-11 to 04-05 19, 14, 24, 13, 17, 13, 12
gunnerfan1987
This is about money, pure and simple. He knows he can get 200k after last season but he knew he would never get that at Arsenal. Frankly, it's no surprise; Arsenal's wage policy/structure coupled with lack of success means we're ripe to be pillaged every summer. Only time will tell if this is a better piece of business for us than Man Utd, but I have to say 24m for a 29yo one year before contract end can't be refused. Can only hope we will sign two more excellent players.
Gooner_Vin
We have very similar resources to United. We could pay him £200k a week if we wanted to, we choose not to- whether that's right or wrong is subjective, but the point is we could do it. Again, whether United ot Arsenal have a better chance is subjective. But I reckon if you've just lost the league on goal difference alone, adding the Premier League's top scorer and getting one of the best centre halves in the world fit again can't hurt.
Little Dutch
gunnerfan1987, ally that to games played and you see RvP guarantees you goals. It then comes down to whether you buy that he's injury prone. Personally, I don't and never really have.
Little Dutch
All Im saying is that ambition cannot be an excuse for RvP after the purchases we made this summer. He coudl have waited to see if they really made any difference.
Sajit
Next up: Arsenal sell their history to the highest bidder. Do you have more money than some countries but just can't get that elusive thing money can't buy? No problem. Arsenal FC have put their greatest football moments on the market. But seriously, if the club doesn't reinvest every penny of this cash they will instantly undo the good work and goodwill they've created so far this summer.
Professor Calculus
If he isn't injury prone, why was he plagued by it in all his years except this one? 194 goals (132 in league) in 8 years is not very impressive. 132/8 averages to 16.5 goals per season (League).
gunnerfan1987
Sajit, van Persie obviously disagrees. That's all that really matters now. It's done now, I'll feel ok about it if the money we have got from this is used and used positively. But we still have a few players to get off the books, we have a 25 man squad rule to observe.
Little Dutch
This time in RVP's defense, given his age of 29 you COULD make a reasonable case of ambition related transfer. You couldn't make that argument in the case of Na$ri.
gunnerfan1987
What really makes me laugh is the first name familiarity you all adopt with these feckers who couldn't give a flying fart. So now he's Van Persie, and up 'til now he's been 'Robin', from PA announcer down. Mind you, isn't Robin a bit sunday supplement, even for the Islington arrivistes, who supposedly get the street stuff? All those shredded posters and duvets lobbed on the BBQ. Oh my aching sides.
lordjohnny
keep quit. earned your dollas through production of talent.
mikacfc
i wonder how your trophy cabinet looks like
mikacfc
please dont turn it to dust...hhh
mikacfc
Personally, I don't go with the injury prone argument. If he survived the last 18months or so, who says he won't remain relatively fit for the next 4years? I was curious to see what Wenger had to say about this because a mate of mine who knows someone on the inside reported that the manager left that meeting yesterday unhappy; the concern was he could tender his resignation. But, if he can take this on the chin, then I would imagine he feels he can use the funds well. Are we stronger with Robin in the side? Certainly! Are we better of without an unhappy Robin? I will equally say Yes! But you can't get away from the fact that this is becoming a recurring thing and it boils down to a lack of trophies (usual excuse) and the fact we won't pay top wages.
Naijagunner
Having said that, I think we are better prepared to deal with the loss of our captain than we were last season. Robin will have something to prove in the coming season and there is the danger that he just might be vindicated. Between Rooney and him, they will score goals; then with Welbeck and Hernandes pushing for places, United will be very competitive. Fergie was rather desperate, to be honest, going gung-ho for a 29year old, given United's famed policy of only paying big for under 26s. I do hope this works out well for United as if it doesn't, it will underscore the suspicion that they are a club on the slide with big spending City and Chelsea looking like the new forces in English soccer.
Naijagunner
I'm not sure mikacfc is a real person, he sounds more like a spell check edit on a Chavs text message vote for Britain's Got talent. I'm guessing he's a spell check app.
Professor Calculus
What a total and utter kick in the ********* for Arsenal. The guy has one good season and then he can't wait to get out. Not only that he wants to go to United UNITED!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WELL DONE RVP ARSENAL FC MANCHESTER'S FEEDER CLUB!!!
Henry Baker Brown
RVP out but Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla in so overall I think we are stronger in attack. Obviously these new players might need time to settle, we don't know yet. There was no guarantee RVP would have reproduced his form from last seaso either tho. If we can get rid of Bendtner and Park and use the money to bring in another defensive midfielder (possibly Sahin if you can call him defensive?), a right back (Debuchy?) and maybe a third/fourth choice striker then I would feel confident we were a fair bit stronger than last season. Also we can't afford to lose key first team players like Song and Walcott as we need some stability and continuity.
bowiecokemirror
How anyone can confidently say we have replaced RVP is beyond me. Neither Podolski or Giroud are proven in this league. Both could turn out to be as effective as Chamakh when it gets down to the hard slog. From a truly formidable strikeforce we have been reduced to one with potential. The sale of RVP to a direct rival is as good as waving a white flag. It says we can no longer compete at their level, and that's why our players are leaving. God help us if Carzorla has a blinding season.
Wyn Mills
Unfortunately Fergie knows how to get the best out his over 30s players. Look at Scholes and Giggs - they must be doing something right up there. We burn out our players by 31.
Will-i-am10
ove 200k p/w, no way we are going to pay such wage & no way rvp could have signed for less with us
Joe_@**
"Hope the *****er breaks both his ankles when Shawcross lands him a good one" has to be my favourite ever post on vital arsenal (Home of everything anti Stoke, anti Bad Tackling and the moral high ground since 2008)
HuddersfieldYiddo
So, the Grand Arsenal Yard Sale has begun. First up, Van the Man is off to Man U with the Catalans browsing for a Song. There's a 'Buy one Get one free' promo for Bendtner and Squillaci (whichever is bought first). The funds would be used to sponsor charities in the name of the board. Come one, Come all.
Guyfox
He was a great player for us while he was fit so lets not spoil those moments with our newfound hate for him. Whatever his reasons are, money or trophies, he was gonna leave someday. Leaving to Man U however is a slap to the face. But we have pocketed 24 mil for a 29 year old player with a history of injuries who had only one great season. Reminds me of a Flamini and I ponder on how he is faring himself. I wish him all the best. Now lets enjoy the season and expect bids for Verm come May next year as the epidsode of the Captain's armband continues...
Guyfox
Still can't believe we sold our best player to ******** Manchester United. I might never be able to swallow this.
gunnerkid107
HY, that was a idiotic statement by somebody who is obviously very angry. I'm sure 99% of the people here would vehemently disagree with that post.
gunnerkid107
I sincerely don't think Man U are that formidable, fearsome side they once used to be. The current Red Devils squad isn't so solid in the middle and had to count on Scholes returning from retirement to give City a fight for the title. There haven't been any changes, worthy of note, so far this season in terms of transfers except for Kagawa. Man U's main threats come from the flanks in Nani, Valencia and Young, and I think RvP will thrive. Afterall, most of his goals were from assists by Walcott or Gerv and all he had to do was tap in in those situations. At the back, Smailling and Jones are not mind blowing defenders, Ferdi is getting old and Vidic is getting rather prone to injuries. I must say, they are not far away from another 6-1 whooping by City. So an average backline, a not too spectacular middle and a seemingly mouth watering forward line. I think Van P made a wrong judgement writing us off to the ManReds cos I don't see the current Red Devils as better than the Gunners
Guyfox
Yea I went over the top with that one. Sorry. Maybe just one then.
Sajit
Wow!! what a loss. But I wish him good, I was beginning to salivate at how Cazorla would have made RVP much more lethal. I am happy though with Giroud from what I could see from the Cologne match. Was happy also with the link up between Cazorla OC and TW. Pity really as I believe that for us to play with the big boys we have to pay big boy wages. But guess what all we need is one good season playing our beautiful game and we become a force again.
phreddy
hope you guys can get it over and stop the hate campaign. rvp almost single handedly landed us the cl spot which put at least 25 mil into our bank. another 24 mil from the transfer adds up to the region of 50 mil. that's an enormous contribution for 1 season, so please be appreciative. btw, rvp, thanks for everything.
Joe_@**
@naijagunnas, chelsea and man city they the ndw force of english football not looklike
mikacfc
Damn selling club
mikacfc
you cant create history now
mikacfc
care free, you guys will not enjoye chdmpion league football sooner rather than later, damn selling club.
mikacfc
care free, you guys will not enjoye chdmpion league football sooner rather than later, damn selling club.
mikacfc
care free, you guys will not enjoye chdmpion league football sooner rather than later, damn selling club.
mikacfc
care free, you guys will not enjoye chAmpions league football sooner rather than later, damn selling club.
mikacfc
Joe, he went to man utd. Nothing but spite and hatred for that. ****.
Sajit
I can take RVP leaving. its the fact we've allowed him to boost the chances of The mancs that I and many others are really struggling to understand. I believe he'll score a shedload of goals for Ferguson and I hope the board can sit comfortably watching him do it this season. I wont be able to. In fact I'll do my best to avoid watching Utd if I can. can you believe it? We have just sold the most lethal striker in the world to our rivals. Only fecking Arsenal.
Wyn Mills
thanks for the memories rvp, some great goals over the last 8 years. all said and done, he had a phenomenal season in 11/12, and he literally saved our gluteals. i believe we would have been almost relegation material if it were not for him. having said all that, i cannot believe wenger would allow (our golden boot winner) to be sold to our direct rival. this really is a slap on our faces, and is he still going to say "we're going for trophies this year?" or that "we're just going to be thereabouts making up the numbers so our fans keep supporting us through this difficult times". he claimed earlier that poldi and giroud were NOT rvp replacements and suddenly now they are? what the heck is going on with our club. every season we're not building from previous successes but REbuilding, every season starting from square 1. constantly hitting the refresh/restart button. when will it stop? when the stadium is paid off? when kroenke makes his trillions? im bracing myself for this scenario to repeat itself next year with vermaelen. or maybe chesney or even koschy. just really gutted at the moment.
supersof
In anger and frustration people will blame the board, but they had little choice. RvP didn't want to go anywhere else and his relationship with AW had totally broken down. Besides, if you read what the BBC are saying, the board had absolutely jack all to do with it http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19179833. Wenger's the one that runs the club and people really need to process that properly.
Little Dutch
ld, thanks for the link. so it was wenger's decision after all. on rvp not agreeing to the direction of the club, seriously who as a fan does here?
Joe_@**
Is there evidence that the relationship with AW had broken down? Would RVP have been playing in Germany had that happened? £24m is a lot of cash admittedly, but this is turning into a worrying trend for our club.
Wyn Mills
In fact the only thing the BBC article suggests to me is that Wenger has a spiteful side to his character. But we knew this anyway.
Wyn Mills
Well, there's more to come cos Song will be gone very soon too. Looks to me like AW is taking a harder line and shipping out anyone whose commitment is not total. I can get behind that. As for evidence that the relationship had broken down, not tangible. But I'm told by people that I know that would know.
Little Dutch
In truth this was all over the minute RvP went public with his hideous statement. We'll never know if it was a ploy to get better wages/get Wenger to spend loads on new players leading to AW kick him out the door, whether he really wanted to go to Juventus or whether he genuinely just wanted out of here, but whatever happened I think Arsene handled the situation correctly (assuming he ploughs the moneh back into the team). It hurts yes, it's done. Tim is right that RvP didn't have just one good season for us .... but out of 8 year he only had three season scoring 20+ goals, and in the rest he did score more than 13 per season. He may have carried us last season, but in the grand scheme of things we carried him much more than he carried us.
Rocky7
I hope the rest of the team use this marvellous opportunity to ram his decision right down his throat.
flv
Wyn - what is there in that article that suggests spite to you??
damiano_tommassi
I'm not going into revisionist mode. RvP is a world class player who will strengthen ManU and will score loads of goals. No doubt about that. I'm very bitter that he has gone to ManU, even though they paid 24M. He has burned all bridges by moving to ManU, as far as I'm concerned.
prits
Wenger has always taken hardline stances in the past. He has a ruthless streak that is often ignored (it may have been misplaced in some cases but the streak was very much there). Over the past 2 seasons, he has been forced to change his approach because of these departures, and if he lets Song go, I would not shed a tear. Rather get rid of him now than become the transfer saga of next summer. All this, of course, means that we will not realistically challenge for the title again this season. We need one summer where no key player leaves (squad players can leave), but the squad is bolstered by 1-2 key additions. God knows when that will happen with the Arsenal.
prits
Taking RVP to Germany, playing him, then telling him straight afterwards (while he's reappraising his situation) that he's not part of the club's future plans? May not be strictly spiteful, but as LD has mentionned it comes across as fairly ruthless and hard.
Wyn Mills
FEEEEDER CLUB!!!!
Henry Baker Brown
See, I doubt it happened like that at all... RvP has been stalling on a new contract for a year (or two?), basically demanded a move, and as it says in the article 'would only go to United' - so there was no opportunity for Wenger to be hard with him at all by dropping him or saying 'you're not part of our plans'.
damiano_tommassi
FEEEDER CLUB!!!!!!
Henry Baker Brown
HBB, you're a Spurs fan aren't you?
Little Dutch
top riposte, hard to come back from that one really.
shewore
I'm not aware that RVP put in any official transfer request. He stated that he wasn't going to renew his contract, probably at the end of last season. Cue furious negotiations behind the scenes. I think RVP played hardball with Wenger and lost.
Wyn Mills
He's certainly tried to force a move, and any half decent offer had to be accepted. How much is he worth for a year before leaving on a free; 10-15? Getting 24m (possibly) for a player that was free to sign for another club in 5 months' time is fantastic - no idea how United have managed to pay so much! Or why, given their list of strikers (who are mostly younger than RvP).
damiano_tommassi
Possibly cos he's one of the best in the business, absolutely top drawer and could help them push on for the league this season. Can't see how this is "good business" when we strengthen a team who used to be our rivals.
shewore
It's not ideal that he's gone to a rival, no. But given that he had to go rather than sulk for a year and be lost on a free, the fact we've squeezed 24m out of them is brilliant business.
damiano_tommassi
How do you know he would've sulked? Look i'm not saying it's not wrong he went, he had to go really, but he still could've aided us next year - and him going to a team who's already better than us is not good business. If he went Juve, then maybe. Talking about business so much is crass anyway, we're a football club ffs, if the money's reinvested then fine, i just hope upon hope we're not looking to break even.... again.
shewore
So, we know for sure that a) He definitely wanted to move to Utd (despite the public protestations of his close family)? b) He would have sulked his way through a season otherwise?
Wyn Mills
Yes, but this is an Arsenal site not a Spurs site so why would be talking about Spurs? Ashley Cole, Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas, and now RVP. Chelsea, Tottenham, and the Manchester giants. You're just a feeder club. That's what Wenger has brought you to. He's my favourite Arsenal manager of all time.
Henry Baker Brown
"You're just a feeder club." - Berbatov to Utd, Modric to Real Madrid, etc., etc., etc.
jaelle
Nono, neither of those things are certain. But as Shewore said, "he had to go really" - what's the alternative, have a player that has criticised the club for its 'lack of ambition' hanging around the squad, biding his time before signing a contract for Man U or anyone else in January? Then being entirely un-motivated from then to leaving in the summer? He made his decision, and released a press statement that he knew - just as you and I know - that it meant the end for him at Arsenal. Anything said to the contrary, playing him against Cologne (even with the armband!), originally claiming Giroud and Podolski are in addition to RvP etc. will just have been an attempt to get a better price. And it worked! So well done. the player is 29, had to go, has a year on his contract, and we got 24m (allegedly). Well done AFC.
damiano_tommassi
You lose your best player every season now because you're such a small club who never wins anything. Small time, SMALL TIME WITH NO TROPHIES!! AHAHHAHA I BET WILSHIRE IS SITTING THERE THINKING PLEASE TAKE ME ASWELL!!!
Henry Baker Brown
Interesting... Spurs fan gloating... about what, exactly?? Has your best player left for Spain yet, young lad?
damiano_tommassi
And yet you still can't finish above us can you Henry old boy. Hows about we make things interesting this year and give you a 20 point cushion in January?
Little Dutch
Thanks for the memories RvP but going to United has tainted the end memory of you forever. While the club had little choice once RvP issued that statement, we do have a choice in re-investing the money that has been received. If his sale is part of a financial balancing exercise it will be very disappointing. Re-investing in the squad is the only way this cycle of having ones best players leaving will stop.
Deltaforce
HY, its a bit rich that you take one post on VA as the benchmark of the sentiment towards our former players. I have been on VS after Spurs lost Berbatov, Keane and of late when the club is close to losing Modric. One can take many posts in isolation and damn Spurs fans as well but doing so wouldnt be fair as they dont reflect the majority opinion or they may have said something in the heat of the moment. Surely you are better than this.
Deltaforce
Well it's done, the player has his reasons that will never be fully known, let's move on. I think, despite his ill-advised posting on his web site, that he is more like Fabregas and less like Cole, Adebayor, and Nasri. As long as he doesn't make a career of slamming Arsenal like the latter three, but shows respect to the club, the manager, and the fans like Fabregas has since his departure, I wish him the best - as long as he doesn't score against us, or his goals don't directly place Man United ahead of us. We have strengthened a lot this year, it's probably less painful to just say, damn, RvP isn't available again, and give full support to those that came or stayed. Hopefully we'll spend the money (wisely, not just for the sake of it like so many fans demand) and surprise all the naysayers by being more competitive in all competitions. We went from the Invincibles to the team that paid for the stadium but won nothing, to virtually a new team that I am excited about. With some of the brilliant young talent like O-C and Wilshere, the new signings, and a good framework of experienced players, Wenger's Arsenal #4 could be the best yet.
elbondo
I had RvP off my 11 in the team soon as he made that statement; I recall having a bit of a groan when it looked like he was to have a rethink last week as it messed up my 'football manager line-up'. As it is, this team can win something and will do better than last season. I feel good about the players brought in, as well. On Alex Song, the manager may be further tempted by the fact he will soon be away to Cameroon's training camp for the African Nations cup, come December. Knowing we already have Gervinho and the fact that such tournaments have an effect on returning players, it may be smart to sell for about 15m and get in a reliable DM who will allow Carzola and Arteta/Diaby free flow, offensively. Better still, get in a long term successor now, if we are clear we won't be raising his wages.
Naijagunner
Arsenal have hit an iceberg and it's players then women and children to the lifeboats.
Uskok
We missed you too, kok;-)
Naijagunner
CHELSEA FAN HERE. This isn't the bad news that you all think it is..... There is no doubting that last season RVP was fantastic but i am one of the few that truly believe he is overrated. I think last season was a fluke, at the age of 29 when ever has he had a season like the one he just had???? He is injury prone, inconsistent most of the time and has a stinking attitude.... He has always had a bad attitude and i can't believe you are all so shocked by this news and shocked that he has betrayed you all...... My main worry if i was you guys is that you are now in danger of becoming a selling club. RVP, Nasri, Cliche, Fabregas and Henry.... Actually Henry doesn't really count as you sold him at the right time and he was a player of tremendous loyalty who i believe shouldn't be named with the above mercenaries...... I have always admired your club, the way in which you do business and play the game. I am one of the few who believe Wenger is one of the best managers the pl has ever seen, even more so today having still kept up there with the big spenders to to speak. I do feel at times he can be a little stubborn however but this window he has proved wrong as you have made some very decent signings. This season and next is critical for you all, not so much with results but more so with your patience for your board and management.....
NicciBoy
***** van persie buh ma onli advice to wenger is to keep song and atleast add 6mil to the 24 and go get cavani.who agrees?
henri addo
Nicciboy - thanks for the reasoned comments, good to hear other fans speak with fairness. I think only time will tell whether RvP's last season was a one-off. It will be interesting because Arsenal were set up to play to his strengths whereas United play in a different way with more crosses into the box. I think we need to add another one or two genuine world-class players to really be challenging.
Gooner_Vin
And yet you still can't finish above us can you Henry old boy. Hows about we make things interesting this year and give you a 20 point cushion in January? Little Dutch - It looks like Henry the ***t shut up double quick. Shame that.
Scotch Eggs Rule
What really grinds my gears is his comments post the West Brom match back in May, something along the lines of 'no matter what happens I love this club and always will'. Sorry but if you had any shred of love for this club you would have not even contemplated joining Utd knowing full well the hatred that exists there. By doing this, he has just proven that he is full of ***** and no better than Ade-bay-whore and Na$ri. I agree that anyone who does not want to play for the club should ***** off sharpish and if that means Song is the next guy out the door, so be it. He was an integral part of the team last season but he is replaceable and AW's recent comments have encouraged me that he will be adequately replaced.
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