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Swansea Replay On The Telly Box

Arsenal`s F.A. Cup 3rd Round replay with Swansea City will be screened live on ESPN in Britain. The match has been confirmed for Wednesday, 16th January with a 7.30pm kickoff at Ashburton Grove. ITV1 will screen West Ham`s trip to Old Trafford on the same evening at 8.05pm. which is why ESPN have requested a 7.30pm kickoff.

ITV and ESPN will decide on which 4th round ties they wish to televise on Wednesday this week.




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The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday January 7 2013

Time: 3:47PM

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Football on ESPN/Setanta never seems to bode well for us.
Rocky7
I don't agree with that Paul. I've been watching us only on ESPN in my part of the world since 1996 and we haven't been too bad :)
luckys_10
You have a different ESPN to us. The ESPN games are usually 5:45 kick offs on a saturday and we all know how crap we are at those.
Rocky7
And is a cat B. Good luck with selling that one out Arsenal when the league on was cat C.
shewore
I was wondering about that myself SW. Arsene Wenger publically states that the league is more important than the FA Cup, so how can the club justify in an increase in ticket price for something they consider less important?
Rocky7
It's a massive flaw in the Season Ticket taking into account cup credits matey, if they downgraded it to Cat C, they'd have to compensate the ST holders somehow. The administration are probably over the moon we have a chance to use up one of these fabulous credits we have no choice to pay for
shewore
Given the Swans result at Chelsea in the first round of the League Cup, as opposition they're clearly not to be taken lightly. Maybe Cat B isn't unjustified for such a contest.
Amos.
That's far too simplistic Amos. One could argue that QPR beat Chelsea so they should be Cat B too.
Rocky7
Amos in looking the other way for the sake of looking the other way shock.
shewore
Not looking the other way shewore just not having my eyes closed. Let's try a bit of reasoning. QPR are bottom of the league. Swans are currently a top 10 side and have had their share of other good results (they also play quite good football) not just one win against Chelsea. So no you can't really compare them to QPR (that would be far too simplistic). Not a Cat A side but not really comfortably a Cat C side either - unless you're being negative for the sake of being negative.
Amos.
Fact of the matter is though the club deemed them a cat C match in the league a month back, and this is done purely so they don't have to compensate ST holders the difference. If this was Cardiff or Burnley it'd still have to be a cat B.
shewore
Have the club never compensated ST holders for cat C opponents in a cup game then?
Amos.
That's never happened, the fundamental example here is they can't charge people buying tickets less than the season tickets have already paid for theirs - which is correct, but the fact that cup games are included on an ST isn't.
shewore
If we're going by that logic then Liverpool also need shifting down to Cat B. Even more so infact because Swansea have had one half decent season whilst Liverpool have been mediocre for a good few years now.
Rocky7
Logic won't take you very far on a football forum but if you're to use it then you would have to conclude that Liverpool are a bigger draw for reasons other than league position alone.
Amos.
But what criteria do they use to come up with the catergories? League position? History? Style of football? How nice their kits are? It all seems very random.
Rocky7
It isn't really random but there's an obvious degree of subjectivity in such decisions. Some are more marginal than others but still understandable.
Amos.
Cup replay, on the box, you're the one that points out people vote with their feet at the right or wrong decisions - let's have a look when at the ground eh? Not that Arsenal had a choice - for reaons above they couldn't make this a Cat C.
shewore
That's right. If the revenue raised for whatever ticket sales they get at category B prices isn't at least as high or higher than it would be for what they could anticipate for ticket sales at cat C prices then by definition it would be the wrong decision.
Amos.
Given the differences between cat B and cat C prices you could say that if ticket sales are 43,000 or less then it was the wrong decision. If revenues were the only consideration.
Amos.
I'm very frustrated - I'd love to go to this replay but I have to work and can't get out of it. Aaaaaaargh.
FunGunner
I don't know about it being a different ESPN, but 95% of the Arsenal games are live here on the ESPN network. And personally i love the 5:45 pm kickoff. They kick off here at 11:00 pm due to the time difference and what better way to spend a saturday night than watching The Arsenal play..
luckys_10
Maybe from an economic standpoint it's the right decision Amos, but what about from an ethical standpoint? The Man City game sold out this weekend .... is having one single ticket cost 126 the right decision?
Rocky7
That wouldn't be the usual price for a Man City ticket. In the family enclosure it could be as low as 23.50. The most common price in the lower tier would be 62. I don't think cat B prices are unethical as such (though I accept it isn't cheap to go to an Arsenal match) but the law of supply and demand determines whether they've got the pricing point right.
Amos.
The Swansea pricing is something they've backed themselves into really. It's an arguement that you can see why they haven't changed it, but it's an annoyance that's kinda tied in with the other dicussion that's hot at the minute with everyone talking about the City tickets which has taken me a little off topic. Lol
Rocky7
Prices everywhere in this country are an absolute joke. Can you think of something that offers good value for money straight off the bat? Maybe a Carling Cup home game - that's the first thing that springs to mind. I don't think Arsenal can look upon this as a "wrong or right decision", it's a replay, all revenue is a bonus. Bet they were high fiving when we condeded that equaliser ;)
shewore
Good to see Arsene defending the capitalist approach to pricing football fans this morning ;)
shewore
Not necessarily additional revenue, not yet anyway. If we lose to Swansea and Bayern Munich, the club has to refund us to the tune of two games next year because we will have only used 5 of our 7 cup credits.
Little Dutch
Good point, didn't think about that. And to be honest, I didn't realise they would do that.
shewore
Presumably in order to get those credits next year you'd have to renew? They can't lose really.
Amos.
Wallop. ^
shewore
True, though you can get the dosh back if you don't renew.
Little Dutch
 

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