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Wenger & Gallas Disagree

Wenger & Gallas Disagree

William Gallas claims that winning is everything, even if the price is our pretty football.

Arsene Wenger has never deviated from his philosophies regarding the style of football his team plays, he has, and will always maintain that he and he players have a responsibility to the fans to entertain.

William Gallas has spoken out, not in defiance of Arsene Wenger, but truthfully and honestly about how he feels as a player.

He wants to win.

'To play pretty football is good for fans to watch. However, I'm sorry, I prefer to hear 'Well done, you won' than when someone says 'You were unlucky, you played well'. said Billy

'Winning is everything. You have to win.'

Both philosophies have their merits and indeed their downfalls, and what we need to find is a happy medium, a balance between the two.

However what is clear, is that the attitudes of manager and player is something that can not be questioned.

They are both winners.

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Date:Tuesday March 20 2007
Time: 10:03AM


Yeah, winning IS everything, and I like Gallas' attitude for the desire. But Arsene has shown that you can win pretty, and do so consistently. To be honest, I like Gallas, but pls give me Wenger any day of the week for his footbalistic (I just HAD to use that word and Wenger in the same sentence) philosophy :).
20/03/2007 10:31:00
If arsenal win playing well its great & if they win playing badly its still great. I don't see anything great about losing whether you are unlucky or not. Maybe because I was brought up following arsenal under George Graham I don't care as much as newer fans about the style of football. The truth is though arsenal as a club will be in trouble after next season if we don't win a major trophy because the likes of Cesc, Gallas, Henry & RVP to name just a few will want out. You can tell from Cesc's recent press comments that he is already fed up with losing & it's not something top players want to do on a regular basis.
Ashburton Gooner
20/03/2007 10:49:00
Personally, I'm getting fed up with Gallas' ***** and he can ***** off back to Chelski or go to Serie A for all I care. He constantly bags other players with out taking any responsiblity for the fact that apart from 7 or so games at the start of the season he has done ***** All! I also think people bagging Wengers defensive changes in the last few matches should look no further than Gallas for the problem. Do you honestly think if Gallas was willing to play at LB and hadnt brought his Chelsea baggage to the Arsenal then we wouldnt have picked him there and not moved 3 players into unfamiliar positions. Hoyte/RB, Toure and Gilberto/CB's, Gallas/LB makes much more sense than what we lined up with at Everton. He may have a winning mentality but personally i'd call it a bad attitude. Son, you are far from perfect and 'let he who is without sin throw the first stone', so shut up or ***** Off. At this tough stage of the season we need union not decent.
Ozi Gooner
20/03/2007 10:55:00
I'm all for the pretty stuff, but let's secure a lead first by scrappy, ugly, own goals, deflections, using whatever it takes type mentallity. As soon as we get a good enough lead, we can p*** around with the ball to our hearts content.
20/03/2007 10:57:00
AG Cesc wouldnt be doing much better for himself at Barca at the moment anyway so i think your being a bit fatalistic. Henry wont leave unless Wenger sells him and i believe RVP will lead the Arsenal strike force for years to come, i mean i havent even heard any rumors people are intersted in him so i think your getting ahead of yourself.
Ozi Gooner
20/03/2007 10:58:00
Gallas hasn't refused to play left back, Wenger wants experience in the centre and Gallas is the best centre back we have, he's one of the best centre backs anyone has anywhere in the world. Don't take the media *****e too much to heart, he's said he wamts to win, so what?! I'm sure Wenger shraes the same philosophy, but he knows we can win playing the good stuff, that's how we play best. There's no disagreement here, Gallas wants to win games. Why that would inspire any controversy is alien to me.
Little Dutch
20/03/2007 11:00:00
Sorry LD mate dont agree with you there. Him and Toure are equally good at CB and this season Toure has been by far the better, Gallas (when playing) hasnt been a shadow of his former self. I also dont think its buying into press *****e as i havent read anything in the press saying that it is just my opinion. That above line up at the back makes a lot more sense than the one Wenger put out.
Ozi Gooner
20/03/2007 11:05:00
I wouldn't be as harsh about it, but I know what you're saying Oz. I do rate Gallas and Toure very highly, but due to the lack of height, I can't see how playing them together at centre back is going to work. I know we're slaughtered already on set pieces, but I can't see that changing much, with two relatively short guys at CB. This is why I said yesterday, that my back 4 would be Clichy, Djorou, Toure (No way that I'd ever drop Kolo for Gallas), and Eboue. Gallas could play in any of the fullback positions too, but for our style of play, I think that the endless energy of Clichy and Eboue, gives us more going forward but the stamina and pace to get back if the move breaks down. Saying that I'm currently sat near the bottom of League 2 on LMA so don't listen to me!
20/03/2007 11:06:00
I also have no problem with winning ugly when its neccesary, that is not what i'm talking about, just his attitude. Listen to the contrast in his and Gilbertos comments today, the two most senior players currently in the squad. Gilberto is preaching a message of togetherness, Gallas is out blaming everyone but himself and has been for two weeks now. If he doesnt want to play for the Arsenal he can ***** off, give Djourou a run in the side he is the future.
Ozi Gooner
20/03/2007 11:08:00
It's marvellous that we have so much choice though isn't it?
20/03/2007 11:08:00
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