Further FA Inconsistencies (Lies)

i agree, ive got no allegance to any london club but this is another f a disgrace, sack em , get rid of em, they r shamefully inadequate

disgusting statement! they have ZERO legitimacy to ban or charge anyone!

* one of the youtube links being taken from an earlier post, by G4L (I cannot take credit for that...) »»Arsene Knows««

The fact that the Chelsea players know they are doing wrong and are having sly digs at this geezer makes it all the more disturbing. Slimey *****ers.

spot on Hughes. The FA is shaming English football, I have no words to describe this. After watching the vid over and over again one word came up in my head: COWARDS!! The lot of them. That kid had no right to be there, but they (the Chel$ki COWARDS), led by the vicious Ca$hley, did something despicable that will go unpunished. This is unheard of in the modern societies, reminds me of the justice I read about that happened way back n medieval times. Even then they had honour.

Disgraceful !! Inconclusive evidence?? Can't they see? I should say I'm not surprised the FA did nothing, incompetent****s they are. Now I hope Arsene goes in on March 30th, and riles up the FA, nice and good. Inconsistent, unfair 'justice'. No wonder the gaffer was fuming.

Its an absolute joke. Is there anyway we can all right a letter to the FA showing your disgust and inconstiant decisions made by them? Imagine Chelsea losing Drogba, Terry and Lampard for 4 games. They'd not finish 2nd place i tell you that

It's beyond a joke really, and precisely why Arsene felt compelled to use the word 'liar' after Cardiff. If he wasn't a gent he might have been even more forceful too. What the hell are you supposed to do in the face of injustices like this?? Shut up and take it perhaps Sir Harry? The despicable FA aside, what can be going through the mind of seasoned internationals kicking an idiot who is already on the ground? Aren't they showing us how miserable and pathetic they are?

Walker was fined though defending himself ... how were Drogba and Cole defending themselves against a person who'd been restrained and was not a threat?

when you think how much money roman has contributed to english football,how much of it has filtered down to the FA in brown envelopes????

LD, you really are an embarassment - good luck Israel? pathetic - its one thing not supporting your national team, its another thing supporting the opposition

Sir Harry, so deport me.

Timmy Smith deserved more than the odd kick!

This feel's so wrong,i'm in total agreement with all the gooner's on this post.Sir Harry sorry but your being a bit silly with the moral guidance there,and how can you actualy b proud to watch player's of such low moral's as Terry (i'm a bloody hero me) Fatlampshade (enough said) and cashley prance around on sat givin it there 'all'.They only care about playing for ENG-GER-LAND cos it inhances there commercial power.I hate international's anyway so mind-numbin it feel's like watching chelski.

Sorry and I do have to take a big swallow but no matter who pulls on an England shirt gets my support. I am and always will be an Arsenal supporter but I treasure my homeland, I hate it when we make mistakes but i will always love my country no matter what.

Sir Harry, it is an accident of birth, whether you like it or not. I could have been born in to much worse circumstances, you are right, never think I am not grateful for that. But this idea that I must forever be a slave and compromise my ability to think freely is a complete contradiction. To tell me, to command me to fall in love with something and support it fastidiously is ludicrous. Bottom line, I don't care about the national team, I never will and nobody can make me. No matter how many flags (stitched by five year old girls in South East Asia for 5p a day) are waved in my face. As for British citizenship, you probably ignore the fact that the persecuting country was funded by your beloved England. The notion of blind patriotism troubles me greatly, in the words of the great Sophocles, "those that can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit attrocities." Come on Israel, stuff it to those F.A cowards.

LD you put it more eloquently..I support you, and being of non-English descent I've been here most of my life, and although I have no natural affinity to a flag, if there is one thing that puts me off waving one, it's people telling me I 'should'. Patriotism is fine, but nationalism is not - I saw it destroy my homeland. Respecting others & their customs is equal in my mind to supporting the country, but people shouldn't demand more.

Andy-Bayor, absolutely. I can only recycle a quote from Thomas Paine, which Sir Harry took issue with some weeks ago, "the whole world is my country, all akind is my brethren and to do good is my religion."

Because Thomas Paine was a *******. He was, but it doesn't subtract any currency from the sentiment. The fact that Bill Hicks succumbed to cancer doesn't make the following assertion any less funny, "Just given up smoking. To me, every cigarette looks like it was made by God, rolled by Jesus and moistened shut on Claudia Schiffer's ******."

Where have I knocked anyone who supports England? The constant use of the word, "I" might be a clue as to what I am getting at. It seems to me you have inferred something based on no evidence whatsoever. Sir Harry is clearly trying to force me to support England, my issue is with him, I haven't mentioned anything else. Other than that I don't like this country funding the persecution of indigenous peoples. If you find that unpalatable then I think you need to ask yourself why. Please tell me where anyone has said you are "scum" if you support England. Honestly, show me what has been said that has made you think that. I don't think you're scum, but it sounds like you might have an acute case of paranoia.

Most countries have a dark past.You just got to forgive.I do agree with LD, that everyone supports whatever country they want, BUT, something which i agree with sir_harry(Shocker).You can't cheer for the opposite country, in a british site network, when you cheer for the other team, you're separating yourself from all fellow peers that cheer for england.You don't have to cheer for england, but it's kind of disrespectful to cheer against it.

I'm not saying you can't do that.I'm saying it's a bit weird doing that, when most of your mates cheer for england.You won't be isolated, at least from me you want.But you saw how one of your mates reacted.It's a sensible issue, and as the special one once said: "Leave england to the english" , on that note, i'll leave you both to it.

eer, i never said it was anti english.I only said it kind of winds up your own fellow gooners.That was my only point.

However if we fail to reach Euro2008 then monies which benefit grass roots football will be lost. Its a rather selfish way to say 'cos I don't agree how the FA have treated my team I therefore wish them harm, even though that will affect other people in the country - is it a case of my enemy's enemy is my friend? There will be all this stuff about Wembley but thats in the past - how can England missing out on Euro2008 benefit football in England at all levels? Its a rather selfish attitude to say the very very least

Sir_Harry, if Eng do not qualify, dont u think it will jolt the FA into re-thinking the way they do things, including appointing a coach, nad how grassroots football is managed ? And just coz somebody does not support the national football team, doesnt mean his patriotism is called into question. Sounds very simplistic to me.

I guess its not surprising to read a constant stream of pro Arsenal and anti English bias on this page. Thats why most other fans in England no longer consider Arsenal to be an English club anymore representing England in the Champions League. Many clubs have a right to claim bias against them and its somewhat ironic considering the 'favours' given to Arsenal in the 20th century, that all of a sudden when its evened up there is a torrent of squealing from your club against the FA. What is shocking still is that not one Arsenal fan has questioned the appalling lack of professionalism by Eboue, Adebayour and Toure at that game, irrespective of whether they were harshly punished or not. It has already been mentioned by your lot that Eboue had previous

Sir Harry I don't know why you insist about the make-up of our team? Your obstinacy is unproductive - although I ask myself questions sometimes about nationalities and team composition I find that the way you argue your point weakens your argument, because (for me anyway) you provoke rather than engage... We disagree on a lot of things, but I dont remember anyone here supporting terrible and unjustifiable behaviour by Eboue or anyone else. And just because you champion the FA's status quo doesnt mean anyone else must. It's also a bit rich to say that you can bring yourself to even support Judas in an England shirt but that you (or 'most fans') don't see Arsenal as a national team in Europe! Please stop pressing that 'nationalist' button all the time - it's quite unneccessary to harp on about it so much, I think many of us have had our say on it...n'est ce pas?

Here we go again from LD, desperately trying to equate patriotism and nationalism with racism and facism. I'm sure it must provide you with a little bit of comfort. As K_chelski has understood, its another to support the opposition because the FA won't give you your own way all the time, like opposition won't field 10 strikers against you at the Emirates all the time and lie down so you can thrash them. The moment you don't get every decision your way, its some pathetic conspiracy against your team .. like it was UEFAs fault you didn't win the Champions League and Wenger/Henry displayed the lack of sportsmanship which even embarassed the Arsenal fan I watched the game with. At the Carling Cup Final, Toure deserved to be sent off for razing hands, Eboue deserved to be sent of for striking Bridge, Adebayor deserved to be sent off for being extremely aggressive ... grow up and accept it like a grown man, not some pathetic little child who has had his toys taken away. Its not a pro Arsenal feel you're creating and defending, merely offering a xenophobic and quite possibly racist anti English spluttering of bile. Its not the first time the moment someone has a different opinion than you you automatically run to the extreme. Last time I checked holding a different opinion, doesn't make someone a racist or a facist - the small minded person is clearly you

Sir Harry stop whining for crying out loud. You made your point... now please shutt up... it's enough now. For the record I dont support cheating, diving, or violence whether its Zokora or Eboue... every now and again our players are an embarrassment just like yours (yours are more obviously, because we're bloody great we are)... and we're not anti-English; i think its getting to you that there is at least one individual here who is saying to you clearly they dont support and dont want to support England... just get over it.

Again demonstrating your total lack of intelligence and providing evidence as to why education must be so poor in this country - how exactly do you push someone without raising your hands? As the equaliser in the CL final wasn't offside I'm not sure why it ought to be complained about and surely Barcelona were the victims prior to that of Eboue's outrageous cheating by diving ..not all sportsmen are bad losers, unless the play or represent Arsenal apparently at which point their crass conduct is deemed acceptable .. just because you commit the least amount of fouls doesn't not mean they are not serious enough to warrant punishment ... surely its the magnitude of the foul not the number which is measured? Teams like Blackburn are physical not dirty, but often they don't commit the sly nasty fouls that Arsenal seem so adept at ... and I note that in the Rugby World Cup when Dallaglio was unfairly penalised for a non foul allowing Australia to draw level and maybe destroy four years of hard work, he took it like a man, not like a squealing little cretin like Adebayor .. a condition prevalent in a number of your players who Wenger seems incapable of teaching discipline and professionalism .. its no surprise your red card record is so appalling .. I have twisted nothing - I have suggested that it is pretty pathetic to support an opponent just because you have a difference of opinion with an organisation who don't let you have your own way all the time. . if you go back to my original post which you have desperately tried to twist, I said its one thing not to support England its another to oppose England - where was I saying you had to support England? And you teach English? Your suggestion of 'going to play in traffic' shows what a disgusting individual you are, unfit to teach any children or anyone anything

again sirH attempts to depict things the way they clearly NOT are, displaying something which is so typical for the club he supports - pretending. You are a pretender 'sir', and your arguments are as firm as your team's grip on a UEFA spot. Toure and Mikel did something that you see day in day out on football pitches, a little bit of pushing and shoving when two fierce competitive teams meet in a Cup Final. Something that the current crop of sp*rs players (and fans) have yet to experience. Maybe when your team reaches a final (even in the then you will be able to understand how it feels to play and win/lose a medal. Eboue's cheating antics are no worse than what was displayed this year by players in EVERY football team in the world - even the tough Englanders such as Rob Hulse et al., only surpassed by the illustrious diving skills of Zokora, Berbatov, Keane etc. Barca's goal was offside, whether you would like to acknowledge that or no, however your ignorant narrow-minded mentality prevents you seeing that. As for the 'physical' aspect of the teams such as Blackburn, Sheffield, Bolton etc and your theory that Arsenal commit nasty fouls that justify the card/foul ratio, well that is just another confirmation of your limited capability to grasp reality. Branding Arsenal as a team that commits fouls of yellow card magnitude MORE than teams that have such skillful players such as Meite, Nolan, Faye, Campo, Davies, Savage, Tugay, Mokoena, Dunn, Morgan, Kozluk, Montgomery etc. is nothing but a plain stupidity. As you dare to mention Wenger's incapability to teach discipline and our red card record, I offer you the incapability of your team's management to teach your players how to PLAY, a fact verified by years of trophyless seasons and 'profitable' investments in players, a clear distinction of the lack of vision by those who run things at 3 pt lane. Your constant distorting that LD or any other Gooner here is furious at the FA because 'they don't let us have our own all the time' is what is pathetic. Numerous times here and in the forums, Arsenal fans have criticized decisions of and the FA when Arsenal was never involved. The latest examples for you are the games between Blackburn and West Ham and your recent f@ckup against Chel$ki where a fellow idiot (spud fan) of yours attacked Fat Frank and got an undeserved version of the Russian 'kazachok' from the Chav cowards. Your lame attempt to attack Arsenal for their discipline on the pitch when you nurture talents such as Tim Smith in your ranks, along woth those who coin the traveling Gooners every time and the bloke who broke the jaw of LD's friend, is hypocrisy in its purest (FA) form. You are a ridiculous person.

But G4L. you didn't raise it as an issue just about the FA, it was quickly distorted into how Arsenal are hard done by, likewise the incident re; Blackburn v West Ham, were merely raised to illustrate how hard done by Arsenal are ... nothing to do with the greater good of the game ... and because Arsenal over the last 10 years are perceived to have previous they are going to be looked at more quickly ... trying to draw the distinction between behaviour on the pitch by individuals on the pitch earning £100K and so called fans off it are laughable - you are clearly trying to drag up every single excuse from the bottom of the barrel to hide that the conduct of Arsenal on the pitch has been pitiful - the behaviour at ManU, the assault on Van Nistelrooy, the conduct of Vieria on numerous occasions, Wenger playing the 3 wise monkeys (I didn't zee anything) rather than actually stamping out this behaviour, means officials (maybe unfairly) expect you to conduct yourself in this manner - the idea that Arsenal are being prejudiced against by match officials as if it was some vast conspiracy is truly mindblogging - the only explanation is that the FA instruct every official to book at least 5 and red card one every other game - of course it all makes sense, I've truly now seen the light - the Scum can never do any wrong. And if LDs mate is anything like LD himself, though I find the action wrong, I can only now wonder whether the bloke did some provoking?

Little Dutch & Sir Harry : It must be love.

Sir Harry, just go away. The hatred in your post just demonstrates how incapable you are of holding any kind of debate. You've taken this thing far too far and you are obviously incapable of absorbing anything I say. The only thing I would point out in closing is that the word used in the title of this article is "inconsistencies", not conspiracies. You know nothing about me other than I support Arsenal and that I don't support England, yet you question my capability to do my job (which I regret mentioning, it's not relevant) and advocating acts of violence says all it needs to. I'm going to be the bigger man and walk away from your vile insults, go away.

Very impressive speech Little Dutch from the person who instigated the insults - as mentioned I never advocated or demanded or suggested that anyone supported England ... I said I found it bizarre and strange that someone would take it a step further by cheering on the opposition ... it was you that initially suggested that someone who supports England and finds surprise that someone would deliberately support the oppostion (except the Scots) is therefore racist, xenophobic, and is equated to some of the less pleasant individuals in history like Enoch Powell. Anyone who read my previous posts on previous pages would have seen my advocating of certain nonEnglish players and managers, yet the moment you cannot provide a coherent response, you immediately lapse into attempting, rather pitifully to try and paint that individual as an extremist - this is not the first post I have seen you resorting to personal abuse on the moment you don't get your own way or can on win through reasoned argument - I would also remind you that with your suggestion of "going and playing in traffic", were you not the first person to advocate violence and harm against another poster?

Oh and well done Israel, continuing to show up the F.As complete incompetency in nurturing decent young players, and showing up the media for overhyping England's average players. Good luck Andorra.

You two, get a room. lol

Why aren't Tottenham bringing English players through their youth system? Now go away.

If there were 5 Arsenal player running around with England shirts on the Little Dutch girl would be waving her flag like everyone else.. We dont need this particular individuals support.. KNife in the back comes to mind!!

"I have not paid attention to responses that were not in relation to the points I had raised." Says it all. You're a dreadful bore who just cannot entertain any point you don't agree with. Debating with you is totally impossible. So please, don't argue with these points, just absorb them, accept them and go away. First- "go and play with the traffic" is a colloquial expression that is equitable to, "knock yourself out." A symptom of your posts, along with your shameless, play English players regardless, manifesto, is your lack of sense of humour. Whenever any light hearted article is posted you completely miss the joke and take it offensively. You posted about thirty times when I compared Liverpool to the Rolling Stones in a previous article, you also took issue recently with a story about Lampard going to Barca, clearly a joke aided and abetted by a picture of a fat kid in a Barca shirt, and you took issue with the fact that Lampard is not allowed to sign a pre contract agreement yet. Lighten up. Secondly, on this post and another post, you advocated my deportation and the removal of my passport for my refusal to support England. Various adjectives such as "moron", "pathetic", "embarassment" have been lobbed my way for refusing toconform to your "English above all else" posts. Thirdly, the whole English history thing. QUE? I don't look upon the likes of Shakespeare, Newton, Milton and other trailblazers as English anymore than I look at Descartes, Camus and Sartre as Frenchmen, their success should not be equated with the success of a nation. That is an idea that greatly troubles me, that is the reason Shakespeare's plays are taught so irresponsibly, this antiquated view that Shakespeare represents Englishness is the reason most people don't even have the most basic clue what Romeo and Juliet is about (and ironically, the reason people just assume Shakespeare's birthday is the 23rd April when there is not the slightest shred of evidence to suggest that is so). Latly, for the final time, I do not support England, I don't look upon players or anyone with their passports in mind. Do you also want a quota on the amount of foreign nurses in the NHS? Do you catalogue your friends in this way, "sorry, you seem like a nice guy, but I've already got a German mate and you would disrupt my quota, at least 95% of my pals must be English." It is YOU and YOUR obsession with nationality that informs my posts here. If Arsenal turned out six or seven English palyers and they were the best available to us, I would be delighted. If Arsenal never field another Englishman for the rest of my life, but I feel we are fielding the best players available, I will be delighted. Only this week is my usual apathy towards international football removed, but it is nothing to do with passports or quotas, it is because the world must see that this Football Association is not fit to run the game, if England losing accelerates that process, that's fine with me. Now please absorb that information and go away because there is nothing left for me to say that I haven't said a hundred times, only to see you ignore it. Go away, please.

You're confusing me with someone else - the thread about the music and Premiership teams was so boring I didn't comment on it, I have never given a monkey's about Lampard moving to Barcelona, why would I? I pointed out that under UEFA rules, Lampard couldn't sign a precontract but could buy his way out of contract for I think £8m .... if you want to distort and be inaccurate either give up writing articles attempt to mislead or take some time to do some proper research

"Sir Harry, so deport me". I think you will find I made no mention of deporting you and did not agree with you either ... I did say that I thought it was wrong that people should be citizens of any country simply because of accident of birth and should have respect and pride in being a British citizen as Luol Deng (famous Arsenal fan) has. Like usual you have taken what has actually been said and desperately twisted it to something it was not. Nationality and nationhood exist in the world. It is a fact of life ... and in many ways has been a catalyst for good ... my posts regarding the make up of the Arsenal team is based on astonishment that you seem to be the only club in Europe who cannot find talented youngsters from their own backyard or offload them without a proper opportunity. This may be because of the inability to have competitive sports in school these days from the ages 11-14 but surely with your alleged coaching excellence....... And as I am sure you know it is right to teach Shakespere in a nationalist context - they were written during a period of increasing sense of nationhood moving away from the old feudal structure, and when England was challenged with many threats from abroad. Just because they are icons of their profession does not mean they cannot be icons of their nation - they undoubtledly took great pride in their discoveries bringing honour to their nation as much as to themselves.

Uefa Cup is a great competition.

It is great because it allows alot of publicity and makes the club more attractive.And you get to play the super cup.I have alot of respect for it.

Don't ***** were you eat. That's the best european trophy Arsenal has ever won.

9-00 you were not mid table, and you lost in the uefa cup final, i bet it still hurts.Of course clubs that won the champions league, might say uefa cup or the cwc is not great. But teams that only have one that, can't say it's *****ty.

Fair enough.But we all agree it's a worhty competition nonetheless.