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Mad Dogs & Englishmen

Right, I have broached this subject in the past and have been shot down in flames, usually by our loyal foreign fans, but does anybody else feel that we should be snapping up some of the English talent around, or is 'talent' too strong a word to use for the current crop of English players?

What do you think?

Personally, I remember seeing Arsenal Vs France at highbury in 1989 (yes, France. They had a game against Scotland coming up and wanted some decent warm up opposition). If I remember rightly we outplayed them for the whole game but they scored a very late equalizer.

At the time, David O'Leary was substituted and Steve Bould came on and the chant around the ground was 'Robson, pick them all, Robson Robson pick them all!' as all 11 on the pitch were English and were blowing away a very good French team.

Since then we have had a few notable Englishman in our team but they are getting less and less. Theo Walcott and Hoyte are our only two now and I think we could do with some more for many different reasons.

I know it is probably right to pick up the best WORLD talent and that English players are over-priced, but I would really love to see more Arsenal players in an England shirt.

Anyone else?

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Writer:Vital Arsenal Member: BigDanny
Date:Sunday July 8 2007
Time: 2:16PM


not again the same debate... expect an influx of over-zealous spuds on speed here. don't say I didn't warn you.
08/07/2007 14:26:00
we've been down this road many times. lets not open it again..
08/07/2007 14:36:00
I personally think that even though there are some cracking English players, by and large English players are very overrated, indeed the PL only became the best league in the world after the influx of foreign players. And why pay 16.5Million for a Darren Bent when you can get a Robin van Persie for £2.5M?
08/07/2007 14:50:00
Doesn't make the blindest bit of difference to me. But then I'm not English, but saying that, the fact that there are no players of my own nationality in the squad, doesn't bother me in the slightest either. I personally think that club football and national football are two seperate entities and should be observed that way. In fact I find that International football is a pain in the butt, espescially when half the squad comes back injured.
08/07/2007 14:57:00
You are mssing some english sprit in the team,somthing that will know how to play with the english way and knows the pride of Arsenal football club.rememeber you do have the best youth academy in this country if not europe/world and you do produce alot of english players however they are just not good enough and instead of keepin them at the club and never really start.arsene releases them and they can continue there career elsewere instead of bein wasted.Arsenal could have a full squad of more than 22 all english players would not be anywere near the level you are currently.
08/07/2007 15:32:00
Some good points there upthedale. The growing trend seems to be that players are now loyal to their team mates and managers rather than thier clubs, which is my one and only criticism for a few of the Arsenal players.
08/07/2007 15:36:00
manutds youth academy has closed down and stopped producing english players. They had to settle for big money english signings. Take a look at those english players wearing manutd shirt and currently playing for england. Hargreaves, carrick rooney and rio. Money spent in getting these players could have been used to buy a feeder football club. Dont even get me started on chelsea.
08/07/2007 16:08:00
I think that Englich players might not be overated but they definatley over priced. With our tight budget we can not afford to dish out an extra 6.5 mil pounds on a player like Bent, when he is only worth around 10. And Rocky said it all, we spent 2.5 mil on RVP and Spurs spent 16.5 on Bent. To use an old cliche foreign players give you more quality for the money. And what team is upthedale support because he talks alot of sense. He cant be a spurs supporter can he?
08/07/2007 16:23:00
i've got no more energy to comment on this topic.. this door's been opened many a times before by are unrespected, scum and the other half of north london football fraternity.. if u could call what they play "football".. anyways.. the point is.. yet again.. there's no need for english players.. u dont need bent for 16. when u have da silva for 8.. i can bet that bent the sp*d and torres of the loserfool are going to be down the list as compared to dudu in the scoring charts come the end of the season.. au revoir.. for now.. Goon-o-centric4life..
08/07/2007 16:28:00
49ers, I think you forgot about Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs (who was English when he joined the academy). The actual fee for Bent was somewhere between £13.5m and £15.5m. His fee is also based on the goals he has scored in the Premiership for an average team. The only league considered to be slightly more difficult than the Premiership is Spain. Considering how much you have paid for Eduardo and the league he has scored his goals in, the price for Torres and what Bent has cost, it all balances up to the same - anything else is mere conjecture. The comparison of RvP is erroneous - they don't actually play in the same position. RvP is a support striker/left winger in the manner of Bergkamp/Reyes.
08/07/2007 16:31:00
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