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An Offer To Spurs & Chelsea

I must have had a good night's sleep, or someone slipped something in my water, because I awoke today feeling spectacularly confident about the new season.

Many pessimistic Gooners have fallen into the media trap and are believing the hype (and the general consensus from over the Seven Sisters) that we are a team in decline, I, however, am feeling a little bit different.

We finally 'lost' Henry to Barcelona, and while we will undoubtedly miss his talent, goals, experience & indeed cash we made from merchandising, he took with him an on pitch attitude and also the pressure placed on the younger players to please their brooding captain.

After viewing only two pre-season games Robin van Persie looks like a new man. Gone has the tag of 'promising youngster', the King of the Cage has become a man ready to take on the mantle of top dog.

Eduardo, whilst he has only played around 20 minutes for the Gunners, has already proved he has a better touch than Baptista and his left foot is enough to get the most downhearted Gooners juices flowing. His movment and positioning will certainly provide Hleb with the facilities to showcase his silky skills and I'm positive the Belarussian will have his finest season to date.

The defensive unit will have to up it's game, although with the Hurricane starting at left back for his second consecutive season and the signing of beefy but agile right back Bacary Sagna it seems as though we can be as strong down the flanks as we've ever been.

In Kolo Toure & William Gallas we have two of the finest central defenders in the world, we just need Billy G to shut his gob and concentrate on keeping fit and the forming of a formidable should be nailed on.

Arsene Wenger has spent the summer performing the services formally provided by David Dein, and has wasted no time in getting rid of the dead wood and then replacing those players (Although we need a winger now Arsene if you're reading).

I firmly believe that we will begin our assent back to the top starting on Sunday 18th August when we take to the pitch to face Fulham, and with that in mind I would like to offer the following wager to the smug faced visitors of the Vital Chelsea and Spurs sites who frequent our boards offering their condolences to the apparent death of our beloved football club.

If Arsenal Football Club do not better their points tally of last season, or finish outside the top for (or indeed below Spurs) then I will write an article pointing out the ignorance of my beliefs and the decline of the Gunners and will also publish photographic imagery of myself wearing the shirts of Tottenham or Chelsea (or possibly both) football clubs on the site. And should, sorry, WHEN I win I would expect you to do the same!

So, it's time to put up or shut up.

Any takers?

The Journalist

Writer: Rocky7 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday July 23 2007

Time: 4:08PM

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lol, let the banter begin...........!
The Fear
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23/07/2007 16:19:00

I very much doubt any of them will have the stones to acceptsJF!!!
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23/07/2007 16:20:00

You should also have to admit our responsibility for the decline in the England team and admit that actually we secretly all loath english players and that even if they play like pele have no chance of getting near our first team!
kenny lunt
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23/07/2007 16:24:00

There is no doubt we are a stronger looking side this season than last. The players 'lost' didn't play a significant role last season whereas the players 'found' top scorer RvP, maturing Cesc, Clichy as good a left back in as we have had, Rosicky with a season in the prem, along with others all point to a better season than the last two. But in truth there are too many variables in football to simply be able to look at squad lists and decide who will beat who. The bookies give us as 10 to 1 for the title. I think that is about right. We are in with the competition for sure.
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23/07/2007 16:33:00

I definatly think we'll score more goals and accumulate more points than last season. When you consider the amount of points we squandered, at home especially, then i don't think anything less than an improvement is on the cards points wise!
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23/07/2007 16:50:00

That article cheered me right up m8. The future is bright its red and white lol any takers then chelski? spuds?
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23/07/2007 16:58:00

I will take that wager me old son!!! I think you would look good in our lovely new Electric Yellow shirt I will personally drop it off for you geezer.
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23/07/2007 17:09:00

Nice one Rocky... come on folks, come for our Editor's hide - he's calling out for you!! Rocky can you throw wearing a skirt in with the bargain?
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23/07/2007 17:16:00

...or I'll chip in for some Union Jack boxer shorts...
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23/07/2007 17:19:00

amazing.. i'm seconding the writer's thoughts.. i'll be in a spud or chelscum shirt if we finish below 68 points or below position 4.. but i know i wouldnt need to.. there's loads to look forward to.. hope the winger comes in soon.. dunno.. but lately.. seeing wenger's interviews.. i've got a smug feeling.. he will unleash something of a big player on the EPL this season..
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23/07/2007 17:34:00

yeah.. the bet should be of our shirts and skirts coupled with jol's underclothes.. how worse can it get for anybody.. aah yeah.. how can i forget.. there's something worse.. moaninho's underclothes..
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23/07/2007 17:37:00

Discky - That's a deal mi ol' cocker!!!!!!
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23/07/2007 18:08:00

Gor blimey muckers, hows about jumpin in the jam jar down the frog and toad to the rubadub for a few swift sherberts! Sure this isnt the WestHam board?
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23/07/2007 18:13:00

Well.. I want to believe that this season would be better than the last. I want Arsene to bring in 2 players more.. definitely wingers. Hopefully both these wants will become reality.
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23/07/2007 18:44:00

I've been having a good feeling abt the season for a week or so, Rocky. Things could still go horribly wrong, of course, but I am convinced we will surprise a lot of people with our performance this season. The squad looks young, hungry and raring to go. We might miss the experience, but this is a make or break season for the kids, and they have learned a lot from past failures (hopefully).
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23/07/2007 19:27:00

This is gonna be goooood. For some reason I'm not that suprised at the lack of takers.
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23/07/2007 19:56:00

No takers because the bet's a bit of a cop out, after all the success you've had under Wenger is your goal for the season seriously to finish in the top 4 with 69 points? We (spurs) have a chance at 4th next season but despite all the front and banter I'm aware Arsenals chance is bigger but I'll still happily take that bet because a 20 year old spur without opptimism is a very miserable young man indeed!
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23/07/2007 20:39:00

Whats that? A Spud with a sense of humour? :) Phartman - I think Arsenal can achieve more than 4th place to be honest. Just that we've had the normal traffic on here, saying we're in decline, blah blah. So this is a direct challenge to them.
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23/07/2007 20:57:00

Why is the bet a cop out? All of you guys have been saying you'll dislodge us and we "in decline" I'm simply saying we aren't.
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23/07/2007 21:23:00

Okay, maybe 'cop out' was a little extreme. I was trying to say you should be setting your sights a little higher (like we do lol) then if it goes tits up that's life. 'Club in decline', don't confuse banter with reality new stadium/facilities, debatably some of the best young talent in the world you’re still a dangerous team just not to the same degree as you were a few years ago (even you must agree with that?) which is why we’re making so much noise about next season because (although you’re still ahead) the gap’s closer then it has been for well over a decade and I have a dream :)
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23/07/2007 21:40:00

I certainly do agree with that dude, and I can also agree with the fact that this is the closest the gap has been in years. However supporters such as yourselves on these boards are few and far between, and I just wanted to sound them out. I know I'm being biased but (but this is the Arsenal site) I firmly believe next year AW will see his third great team bear fruit.
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23/07/2007 21:49:00

If AW’s 3rd generation team is similar to my dad’s 3rd generation Ford Escort you're in for “harsh, unforgiving ride, with questionable handling” That's what i'm hoping for anyway!
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23/07/2007 22:11:00

This coming season is going to be one of the most interesting for a good while, I don't believe that the gap between the top 6 will be any where as large as last season. IMO M.U & Chavs are probably 8-10 points better than rest, but the next 3 positions are up for grabs. Theirs no doubt you guy's have a bunch of talented youngsters, and in my view your midfield still gives you the edge. However until the window closes that could change, I think we have a genuine chance of breaking into the top 4. As a spurs fan I hope it's at your expense, but I would settle for dislodging Liverpool
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23/07/2007 22:20:00

i love the way we are written off, good bring it on ! write us off at your peril, we have the pedigree and wenger has proven himself more times than most.. whats Jol proven as yet except he looks like the spitting of Shrek !
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23/07/2007 22:30:00

I agree with the writers comments about Hleb. I was watching the last season DVD yesterday and Hleb was involved in so much of our build up play and never tires or gives up. I think he and Rosicky can have awesome seasons if they stay injury-free. My only doubt is our ability to be solid at the back and not give cheap goals away, and the ability to dig out results in the middle of winter, facing a physical battle on a poor pitch. PS - can't stand the look of our third strip, yuk!
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23/07/2007 22:40:00

Go on Rock! Takign the fight to them - only one taker so far. Gooner_Vin, i prefer that 3rd kit to the white one - I'm still hoping for a 4th kit with polka dots though... »»Arsene Knows««
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23/07/2007 22:51:00

2 takers Wingston: "...but I'll still happily take that bet because a 20 year old spur without optimism is a very miserable young man indeed!" - Phartman87, and "I will take that wager me old son!!!" - Dicksy.........still, only two takers in nearly 8 hours......
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23/07/2007 23:49:00

where's kernowboy, k_chelski, etc. now?!!!! All together now.... "It's all gone quiet over there........."
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23/07/2007 23:50:00

Well PUREGOLD, bit surprised to hear you say that we are writing you off, neither Phartman nor myself have written you off. If you read our comments we believe we are a lot closer you than we have been for 20 years. But I guess you will interpret those comments to suit your agenda.
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24/07/2007 07:59:00

Topspur, can I just say you and Phartman are the exception, rather than the rule. There is no agenda here, but we do get the usual quota of Spurs fans telling us we are in decline, and that they WILL overtake us (there is even a topic created in our forum by a Spud). Not that you have a good chance, but you WILL overtake us, like its a given. Thats annoying frankly, coz though the gap has gotten smaller recently, I still think Spurs have larger problems to overcome.
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24/07/2007 09:06:00

So topspur, you're not going to take on Rocky on his wager ? ;).
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24/07/2007 09:11:00

They have a very large problem prits....Its called Martin Jol.
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24/07/2007 09:13:00

Unlike Man Utd, we have signed what we need. We didnt score all of our "easy" chances last year so we bought an unconventional poacher. I say unconventional as he has something about him aswell. We were short of numbers at the back so we signed a right back who can play across the midfield.We may have lost 2 other strikers but we brought back Bendtner, who is actually good at playing football unlike the others. The only weakness in the team is the wings. We have 4 wingers in the team but only 2 of them can go wide. Both of them arent starters yet and none are left footed. Maby we have to sacrifice Hleb for Eboue ot Walcott but that ont happen so we will have to accept that we will play beautiful football and not score with crosses.
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24/07/2007 09:16:00

I may be a bit of an optimist prits, but I'm rather attached to my money! I'm also a wait and see kind of guy.
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24/07/2007 10:58:00

iceman10 he may not be a Wenger, but I think he is improving. Let’s not forget that, in management terms he is relatively inexperience
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24/07/2007 11:00:00

Goofle, what do you mean about us not signing we need? United were pretty good last season, all we needed was a defensive midfielder and a striker. With Hargreaves and hopefully Tevez arriving, we are complete. We have added two bright young talents, too in the process but I might be able to live with that.
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24/07/2007 12:39:00

You dont need 2 17 mil wingers. you dont need tevez as he isnt the player you should go for. a 20 goal man is what you need not a rooney type.
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24/07/2007 12:54:00

There's no money involved Topspur, just a whole load of pride if you lose or great laughter if you win!
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24/07/2007 13:47:00

Rocky! no disrespect, but not sure i could bring myself to wear an Gooners shirt. Would you accept a donation to charity?
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24/07/2007 14:08:00

The optimism you have is also up my blood and the blood pressure is sure under control. I believe we will shame the detractors.
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24/07/2007 15:18:00

I can't see you breaking the top two though not yet. You don't have enough depth in your squad to deal with three important players being injured. Rocky I will bring me shirt from a few years ago with the old I 8 ARSWIPES on the back.
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24/07/2007 17:11:00

We have 2 players for evry position including both cb and both cm. 3 in each cm position in fact. 4 wingers 4 strikers. Maby not all "world class" but all good enough to play when called upon.
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24/07/2007 17:25:00

Well Goofle! not sure i share your judgement (but then again why would I, being a spud) If Van Persie or Fabregas are out for a couple of month, I think you would be in serious trouble. It's one thing bringing some of the talented youngster for a couple of games, but when that the turns into relying on them for 10-12 games, it's a big difference
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24/07/2007 18:14:00

We have Denilson who is a carbon copy of cesc. Bilic said Edu and Ade would be good together. We also have Bendtner, Theo and for CM Diaby. The same can be asked of you. Berbz and Lennon out then thats 80% of your team out in truth. At least we have other quality players.
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24/07/2007 19:18:00

Way to go Rocky. Too bad not many people have come to challenge you. Wheres merlin, k_chelski, and some of the spuds?
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24/07/2007 22:54:00

eeer, gooooonerkidiq07 , could you please show me where I stated that arsenal wasn't going to be in the top4 anymore? If I actually taunted you guys, you'd see several 200+ posts in almost all of the articles(the older ones know what I'm talking about.
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25/07/2007 00:08:00

it's not exactly that hard of a points tally to better, is it? make this bet on whether Arsenal finish higher than Spurs
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25/07/2007 03:50:00

Watched Denilson against us last year, looks ok. But to put him in the same bracket as Cesc is reaching a bit IMO. Diaby to replace Gilberto, possibly. Bendtner to replace RVP, not in the same league. Goofle I think you are being a tad one eyed, I agree that if we had lost Berba for a couple of month last year, we may have struggled. But with Bent on board, I think we could cope. And yes we don't have adequate cover for Lennon, but the window has not closed yet. As I've said before, our squad compares favourable with yours IMO, with the exception of Central Midfield (Gilberto/Fabregas v Zakora/Jenas)
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25/07/2007 08:40:00

It really doesnt. Lehmann better, Sagna and Chim is not known yet, CB's for Arsenal are better, Clichy is better. Lennon is better than Hleb, Rosicky is better than any left winger you will buy. Ade - Rvp and Berba - Bent will score about the same.
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25/07/2007 16:57:00

Rocky! When you learn to spell FOUR come back to us :-)
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26/07/2007 21:49:00


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