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Liverpool vs. Arsenal

Anfield

09th January 2007

19:45

On Sky

Round 2

The mighty Arsenal travel to Merseyside today to take on Liverpool in the second game of their cup double header.

Round 1 went to Arsenal after Tommy Gun delivered 2 outstanding right hooks in the first round before Henry delivered a jab in the final minutes to K.O the Kop.

Wenger is expected to field a much more youthful side today (you wouldn`t think it possible!) as he rests some of the big guns in preparation for our trip up to Blackburn on Saturday.

The Gunners have been criticized in recent years for using the competition to blood the younger players and give some fringe players a run out. I think the jibes and totally wrong. Arsene is taking the competition very seriously. We all know how much Wenger puts the emphasis on youth so often. So think about it….Arsene knows!

Vital Quotes:

Tomas Rosicky: 'In almost every game we have created so many chances and not taken them. Compare that to the game on Saturday when we were very productive.
'For example, I don't feel I played a good game even though I scored twice

'This is a very good team but we have to be smarter. We have to avoid mistakes and take our chances.'

Liverpool goal scorer in the FA Cup game, Dirk Kuyt: 'We deserved more than we got on Saturday but Arsenal are one of the better teams in the Premier League so we know it will be tough.

'I hope that first defeat gives us an extra boost.

'Players always want to win trophies. There are a few more to fight for and the Carling Cup is one of them.'

Liverpool Team News:

Liverpool will field a very strong side, possibly even their first choice X1.

Bellamy returns from injury to replace Peter Crouch, Gerrard is expected to start although Dudek is expected to start in goal.

Player to watch: Craig Bellamy

The Welsh striker has a reasonable scoring record against Arsenal and with Arsene Wenger expected to field a youthful side, he will be looking to use his pace and movement to cause trouble for the Arsenal defence.

Arsenal Team News:

Thierry Henry is rested for the trip up north, Eboue is injured, Lauren and Gallas aren't fit enough to travel While Ljungberg is still a couple of weeks away.

The squad is as follows:

2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
9. Julio Baptista
15. Denilson
17. Alex Song
20. Johan Djourou
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
33. Matthew Connolly
40. Henri Lansbury
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore

Player to watch: Theo Walcott

The youngster seems to thrive on big occasions so I expect a performance from him tonight. Perhaps even a goal?

Previous meeting:

Match Prediction:

I'll put it over on the forum as usual, come over and check it out!




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Writer: Nick Simmonett  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 9 2007

Time: 1:00PM

Your Comments

the video is good but the music is terrible
midlothian99
maybe the music should be kylie and robbie " kids " muhahahahhaha.
PUREGOLD
What's the matter, too cold for Henry? He's just had 2 months off!
Westl
Imagine he got injured in meaningless game tho westl. Saying that were more than just a 1 man team nowadays, hows JT by the way?
iceman10
Who needs JT when they have Bouhlarouz.
G4L
Bouhlarouz and Ferriera aka the chuckle brothers!
iceman10
plus Ca$hley and Essien the dynamic duo. Can score for fun. Literally.
G4L
yes....its called resting players. how is JT and PC?? getting on alright? good. how are chelsea doing wihtout them? :S
h57ben
haha guys westl wont be back to comment again..
luckys_10
and then when jose leaves for a big club you will be up a creak without a paddle
fran merida
Don't Carvalho look like Percy from Blackadder? Just a thought
nikolaijns
nah percy is more likeable
G4L
better hairstyle 2
nikolaijns
JT has had back surgery and will be back in a third of the time of Gallas who only had a muscle tear. Given that you are finished with the Premiership I thought you guys would pay more attention to the League Cup this year!
Westl
'back surgery' the incision was less than an inch!!! I'm sure you know what things under an inch look like!.....Now back on topic. Despite the fact I think we'll get beat I'm looking foward to this game. The chance to see players like Traroe again along with Denilson and Lansbury.
simmy8_2000
Is Connoly going to play CB with Djourou? and wasn't he on loan somewhere?
G4L
4-1.......what a perfomance by the young ones. half time i dont see them coming back from this.
mish
lol westl, you better hope JT comes back soon, cuz you can't buy a win in the league at the moment..
luckys_10
Very disappointed with the kids. I thought they would have scored more than four in the first half at Anfield!!!! Are you watching Tottenham ;)
northwilts
well... what can I say - IT IS UNBELIEVABLE! No offside for the fourth goal, cameras don;t show the left back who plays Ali on. ARSENE WENGER IS A GENIUS!
G4L
this is getting ridiculous, i just got home and my sis told me we're leading 4-1 and i just didn't believe her, and even after seeing the half time highlights, i still can't believe it, football can be so easy at times..
luckys_10
and G4L, the guy who supplied the pass to fowler for their goal was a shade offside, so even if aliadiare was offside, it evened out in the end..
luckys_10
we need a separate thread for each game!
G4L
that is too true lucky, but didn't want to mention it ;) marginal offside - what a finish by Alex Song though!
G4L
5-4 to the liverpool! 5-4 to the liverpool!
HATEtheGOONS
...and Benitez said he was going to field a stronger side after losing on Saturday.....hmmmmmm. I have nothing against Liverpool, but we are making them our play-b!tches these past two matches!
SUX2BU
this is counter attacking football at it's very best, THE BEAST has his hatrick, eeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss..
luckys_10
5-1, time for Arsene to take half the kids off, they're late for bed!!!!! Oh how much fun will it be when the kids smash Totteringham!
northwilts
And there's the trick for Baptista...he's a scoring machine today! 5-1
SUX2BU
and a very good display by Song. hope he scores again at the ***** lane next week..
luckys_10
have i just gone through a worm hole? i know our kids our top drawer, but this is quite surreal... I'm so pleased Baptista has notched a hat trick, Ali a goal too, but most pleased of all for song - they're speakign on five live of how impressive he has been tonight, hope this gives the guy some much needed confidence... »»Arsene Knows«
Wingston75
hate the goons, this one's for you - 'ARE YOU TOTTENHAM IN DISGUISE? ARE YOU TOTTENHAM IN DISGUISE???' »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
DIABY COMING ON!!! welcome back, lad!!! »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
Quote...5-4 to the liverpool! 5-4 to the liverpool! HATEtheGOONS... Mystic Meg you ain't you donut!
northwilts
We want seven, we want seven, we want seven!
northwilts
6-4!!! Bejeezus... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
just when they start to mount a comeback, the BEAST grabs a fourth! 6-3
SUX2BU
sorry, 6-3 that 'pool goal was offside... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I'VE SAID ABOUT ALIADIERE!! WHAT A PERFORMANCE!
G4L
where are you now hatethegoons????? i love it when guys talk too soon.
mish
and there it is...two decisive wins at Anfield in four days...the latter won by a majority of youngsters barely old enough to legally drink in Canada! Good show.
SUX2BU
The last time the scousers conceded 6 was in the 1930s! Another record down, thank you very much!
G4L
yeah, where is HATEtheGOONS?? Come on and talk to us now... before we come and talk to you... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
It's nice to have a decent backup keeper Almunia = 13 SOG, 10 saves Dudek = 7 SOG, 1 save
SUX2BU
HTG whadda ya know, your wish didn't come true, now the kids gonna rule the spuds !
PUREGOLD
Anfield x 2, 9 goals! Gun-Believable!
iceman10
may i just point out - 2 games at anfield, 2 wins, 9 goals. The Tiny Totts, in contrast, away at cardiff, a draw, which Fat Jolly Martin apparently described as the best they could have hoped for. Therein lies the difference between The Arsenal and the spuds. So where is HATEtheGOONS??? »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
Step forward Beastie boy!!! ch ch check im out!!! after leavin the Scousers beggin 4 mercy on the mersey We now storm forward to massacre footballs answer to Eddie the eagle, U can smell em now quaking in their orcish lairs
nikolaijns
Well done,your reserves beat there p!sspoor reserves.Jesus i bet that LittleDutch is getting wet about that one.We all wanted you PikeyMuppetts in the semi's,EASY,did'nt the mighty Wigan knock you out last year.
HATEtheGOONS
I told you lot about Alliadiere. Did you see him today? Arsene Knows. He saw something in him! What a perforamance and the Beast! By jove what a Beast!! That was just brilliant! What was Benitez trying to do?
Keplaz
"Gunners hit Reds for six", "Four-most Julio Rocks Reds", "Julio's haul helps Arsenal rout Reds", "Rampant Arsenal storm into semis", "Baptista hits four as Arsenal beat Liverpool 6-3 in cup", "Arsenal hit Liverpool for six"... just a few headlines from here and there...
G4L
Ah, so you show your face, HATEtheGOONS - welcome back NostroDummy. And no, our KIDS beat their reserves - 6 teenagers. Admit it, you're pi$$ing in your little nylon pants at the prospect of getting knocked out by the most talented crop of youngsters in the world... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
Yes, just as the mighty Leicester beat your lot!
G4L
Mate, 1 day youll look back and realise instead of lovetheyids you were hatethegoons Hahahaha I pity you, take a long look in the mirror, your whole life spent on negativity - typical whiny pikey trotspur, We are gonna deal you some muuurrrderaatioon dickead
nikolaijns
that was 'pool's reserves? Both sides today were better than your starting XI a$$ clown.
SUX2BU
The Beast Has scored more in 90 minutes than Shevchenko has in 4 months!
iceman10
Didn;t the mighty Leicester and the mighty Grimsby knock you out last year HATEtheGOONS? Great performance from the lads!
Parano!d
hahahah HTG i think pool had more first teamers, we had 6 kids under 20.. and those kids are going to teach the past glory pretender lane boys a thing or two about football !
PUREGOLD
hahaha iceman, and he didn't cost a penny of shevie.. infact arsenal scored more than spuds have in 5 games.
PUREGOLD
PG, that's cos the spuds are a joke. HtG would reply, but he's busy wringing out his plastic pants at the thought of what's going to happen to his joke outfit of a club when we play them in the semis... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
hahaha 6-3 to the Foreigners , gerrard just got schooled by teenagers !!, apart from his striker where was he ???
hazzagooner
exactly wingston. our kids will play, we have nothing to lose, if we get beat, then spuds only beat our reserves, if we win, the spuds will have been beaten by our reserves. and the way they played over 2 legs , i don't see why they won't win.
PUREGOLD
I cant be arsed to sit and read through all them comments. What a result! Since when did Gerrard, Bellamy, Hypia, Carragher become reserve players though HtG??? What a mug.
simmy8_2000
Me neither, PG. If the spuds consider drawing 0-0 at cardiff a great result, then i presume that they'll be eating lasagna for says before the game, so as to have their excuses ready to trot out once again. That's if they turn up, of course, they didnt show at the grove last time... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
T TOTTENHAM V CHELSEA 2007 League cup final.Is that positive enough for ya nikolaiiijnns.And remember never to put 'MATE' cos YOR just a Scummygonnerpikey with a Sh!t name!
HATEtheGOONS
HTG care to place some money on that ? hmmmmmmm ? or how about, the loser has to wear their rival's shirt and have a picture taken and have it posted on here!!!!
PUREGOLD
HTG posts another dirty protest on the gooner site! save it for the west ham locker room MATE!
iceman10
Love the fact that yor thought i'd meant liverpool wud beat you 5-4,you donut's think IRONY is some sort of metal!
HATEtheGOONS
and then they start crying if we dare go on their site, its like double standards.. they like to give it, but just can't take it... but like eating lasagne !
PUREGOLD
No some sort of metal is Iron, you do remember the irons dont you?
iceman10
irons hahahahahahahahahhahahaha !!!!!!
PUREGOLD
Yeah did'nt that shower beat you lot this season and the Classless Whinger was made to look like a fool,again!
HATEtheGOONS
HTG should we bring up who beat who last year and cup exits and everything, i think you might look a tad foolish huh... so what about the bet ? or you trying to let that one go quietly away hoping no one saw it ?
PUREGOLD
we are gunner smash the living daylights out of those sorry spuds...bring it on,i cant wait
fran merida
Yeah they did and we smacked you 3-0 at the Grove when your fans walked out with 20 minutes left. Did you see the scousers tonight, singing until the end 6-3 down, ur support is F*****N sh!t!
iceman10
when your champions league try, kicks the bucket and dies, that's lasagne (that's lasagne)... when the $h1t hits the pan, and spurs lose to west ham, that's lasagne (that's lasagne)... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
I could'nt take money off an old man! :)
HATEtheGOONS
how long have they been waiting?
G4L
Their team is the pits and the yids got the sh!ts thats lasagne, thats lasagne!
iceman10
I wonder what the odds would been on a 6-3 victory.
miked_joker
So HtG, what's your excuse for a *****poor showing in the semis gonna be??? »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
HTG, ignore the money, how about the loser has to wear their rivals shirt and have their picture taken and put up on vital ? do you accpet the challenge, ofcourse if you think the final is between spuds and chavs
PUREGOLD
It's gonna be so funny catching your comments on sat after Blackburn kick your arse (again).
HATEtheGOONS
spanked 3-0 at the grove, and your fans leave in droves, that's lasagna (that's lasagna)... »»Arsene Knows««
Wingston75
see you saturday then HTG, now sod off!
iceman10
yes again, he ignores the challenge, becuase he doesn't think we are a challenge ? its a for gone conclusion that spuds will meet chavs in final.
PUREGOLD
Mmmmm,not sure about that one.I bet you've got that bloody digusting one that little dutch had on.
HATEtheGOONS
"Mmmmm,not sure about that one.I bet you've got that bloody digusting one that little dutch had on."...HtG... It can't be any worse than that bloody ***** coloured one!
simmy8_2000
oh god i never thought of that one, the brown thing left over from last seasons west ham game... yikes.. or i could use our claret one and try and use photoshop to do a few tricks simmy ;)
PUREGOLD
Ha, it's an idea PG, it's an idea! Anyone got any idea what the odds were on a 6-3?? I bet they were pretttttyy long!! I bet Baptista hat trick was pretty long odds too. The bookies have had a right result, L'pool were favrouites, no one would have thought Aliadiere first goal and no one but no one would ahve said 6-3!!!
simmy8_2000
T TOTTENHAM V CHELSEA 2007 League cup final.Is that positive enough for ya nikolaiiijnns.And remember never to put 'MATE' cos YOR just a Scummygonnerpikey with a Sh!t name! HATEtheGOONS Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats not positive thats ****in certifiable you dozy Jol humper!!
nikolaijns
In response to the barracking i got on the Diaby post. Congratulations on a 3 goal win against Liverpools second string. And one good performance from Aliadiere does not a good player make. Oh and your fan base has grown with the addition of loads of numpties who have nothing better to do from their day off as a merchant banker. I sat in the North bank last year during the 1-1 game. After a while i could no longer hide my allegiance and started showing signs of excitement everytime Lennon skinned panini. Did anyone do anything or care? Did they fuch! lol. Now, I am not saying that i shoulda gotta a pasting as there is no place for violence, even between the fiercest of rivals. But for someone to bat an eyelid would be nice. These fans that you have told me about don't know the meaning of what it is to be a Goon - or the rivalry between you lot and us. So regardless of if you beat us 1-0 or 10-0 in the semi's with your first 11 or your under 11's. Have a look at yourselves. Please
Jacky B
have a look on the Diaby thread. I tried pasting to here but to no avail
Jacky B
oh there it is.
Jacky B
Ur great fanbase who walk out with 20 minutes to go when 3-0 down at the grove, who barrack legends like Hoddle and Ardiles until they are sacked! ur support is Sh!t! Go to the sp*rs site and see ur mates wanting people sacked and sold after every pathetic defeat, that aint support! Have a look at yourselves. When Browsing the Sp*rs vital site I see people hailing Huddlestone as the new Hoddle after 15 games so dont go there in regards to Aliadieire.
iceman10
If the only thing u have over Arsenal is ur home crowd is a bunch of violent thugs, it just shows how sad u lot really are. Pathetic.
iceman10
As a youngster me and a family member (who unfortunately a Sp*rs fan) went to watch a NLD at the lane. I was 15 years old and showed my alligence when Arsenal scored a goal. Both me and my Sp*rs supporting Family member were showered with drinks, spat at, racially abused and got in a fight (which we of course won!), so if that makes ur support great...good luck to you!
iceman10
Violent. No? And being as i said i dont condone violence cant see why you think that i believe it something we have "over" you. And I hear similar things from your lot when the chips are down. Didn't i sit next to you at highbury last year? Oh, and Huddlestone/Hoddleson. Play on words more than a comparison of ability.
Jacky B
Am i supposed to believe that? sounds a bit like your first team player source tellin you King to Chelsea. If you are tellin the truth I am ashamed, but to cheer an Arsenal goal amongst spurs support is pretty dim. How old are you now? sounds like it happened in the 70's. who was that player that informed you of the King Chelsea move again?
Jacky B
You didnt sit next to me. I used to sit in the West lower and now sit in the east lower next to the away fans so i can enjoy the banter. Ur support is an imaginary vision in ur mind, u and Newcastle have the most fickle support in the the prem, go look up the word support in a dictionary.
iceman10
one more thing. 2 of you won a fight amongst a crowd. you must be solid mate. especially as you were 15.
Jacky B
Like I said before I wont reveal my sources, lets talk about it in june. It was in the 90's we got in that fight so not that long ago. Like you say there is no place for violence in football so you either condone it or you dont, so dim or not which one is it?
iceman10
Well my sp*rs supporting family member is hench so I credit him with saving my life! plus the fact when I was 15 I was almost as quick as Theo Walcott!
iceman10
To be honest I really dont see the point of your post? Your support is overhyped, U havent told me why they shifted so sharply when you were getting battered at the grove, that aint support (watch the kop last night). U cheered when in the north bank and didnt get abused? In the carling cup tie sit next to red action in the north bank and see if you get away with that. I could o to Sp*rs now sit in a certain section and not get attacked as I did in the 90's so what? what is the point of ur post? your fans are better than ours? No chance.
iceman10
Jacky - I sat in the South Lower (right next to the Spuds) in our recent NLD, and I have to say, you were the worst visitors of the season. Usually travelling fans make just as much, if not more noise than home fans because it's normally full of the 'hardcore' support. Now considering the magnitude of this game, you should be ashamed to know that Spurs fan were leaving at HALF TIME, and with 20 minutes to go your section was half empty. Plus you were quiet as a mouse. Now considering Liverpool were 6-3 down at HOME last night they still sang. We don't claim to be the loudet fans in the world, but we're certainly the loyalist!
Rocky7
are you sure you wasnt sitting in the family enclosure,i would have loved to have seen you bigging up your players next to me in the clockend,i dont condone violence,but would have made you feel rather uncomfortable,you would not have been able to tell your friends later that you got away with infiltrating our section
fran merida
Yo Simon, still think Baptista's a joke?
Little Dutch
guy guys guys. I have never suggested i condone violence - merely said you must be hard if 2 can take on a group. I am not saying King wont leave either - just want you to back up your claim. Yes, some of our supporters are fickle, but I am not. I never said I cheered in the North Bank - Just that i couldn't hide my allegiance. two different things. I have also sat in the clock end. Granted, our support is not the best - but it IS better than yours. At least we sometimes create atmosphere. The amount of 20 something and older people who have just started supporting you is considerably large. You even had one posting on here the other day who admitted to supporting you cos his fave player was Henry!!!! The only thing creditable in any of those posts is the fact that some fans couldn't stick out the 3-0 drubbing. Chances are they were just the same sort of"merchant bankers" i was talking bout earlier (unfortunately) who had the money for a touted ticket and nothing better to do. At least do me the credit of reading what i write before you reply. If you don't want to - then don't reply.
Jacky B
We arent labelling you one of the fickle fans but you seem to think you can tag us due to the fact nobody challenged you in the north bank, it would be fair to say most of the posters on here would have challenged u. Doubtful that it was prawn sandwich eaters in the away end for the first NLD at the grove but whatever makes you happy. Ur support is better than ours is based on what fact? You overhype yourselves as fans there is no basis on which to say your better than us, its a made up figment in ur imagination created by sp*rs fans. End of. We out sang you at the grove, we out sang you when we won the league in ur ground! Yes we do pick up a lot of new fans, its down to the way we play and the diverse amount of cultures that play for our team, so what? That man will have kids, his kids will grow up to be gooners and hence a new generation of fans is created, whats your point?
iceman10
My point is it is nice when you don't have to travel 1000 miles to watch your team. And i suggested our support is greater than yours cos you said the opposite.
Jacky B
Neither, am i one of the fans who says we are gonna beat you all the time etc etc. All i have ever done on here is look for a bit of debate and banter. "that" post, as i pointed out. was in response to the caining i got for a reasonable suggetion/point
Jacky B
That's got to be the worst point ever. It proves nothing!
Rocky7
sarcastic sonny jim. prob lost on you. I never said it was proof of anything either. But as far as i can see you should support your club for 2 reasons. one or both of the following would be good. 1 - your family. 2. it is local. Obviously, that is unless you live in a country where they dont play football.
Jacky B
I'm from Yorkshire. None of my family support Arsenal, infact none of them even like football. So when I was wee I was to choose a football team. Upon LOSING the cup final to Luton, I chose Arsenal. Now I'm a big boy I spend lots of my hard earned cash on traveling 100's miles to watch my belevoed Gunners. I've travelled all through the night just to watch us play Carling cup matches. I dedicate a huge chunk of my time in to running this Arsenal site, I plough countless amount of cash into the club via merchendise. I live, eat, breath, sleep Arsenal. Considering your stance and criteria on football supporting, what sort of fan does this make me?
Rocky7
Jacky B, the thing is until sky etc came along football in this country was pretty much a closed shop so most people supported their local clubs (man utd aside & thats why they get so much stick even to this day). In the last 11 years arsenal have become a worldwide team with regards to both players & fans. Arsenal like all successful clubs have a percentage of glory hunters & then they have the hardcore fans. Spurs are no different, it was only a couple of years back that spurs were advertising for season ticket holders on the underground train stations. Now because of one decent season they managed to sell out, so what does that tell you?? It says spurs also have glory hunters going & taking the seats of real fans. Arsenal fans can be quiet at The Emirates stadium but then our club bans us from doing just about anything that would create an atmosphere, however if you see any of our away games on sky you will clearly hear our real hardcore fans continually singing. There is no way of proving who has the best fans so its an irrelevant argument, however we can prove who has the best team!! Watching shows like "The real football factories" I am proud that arsenal fans rarely get mentioned as trouble makers or supposed hardnuts. I go to football for enjoyment & I used to love it when fans could safely mingle without the threat of being stabbed to death. Who wants to associate themselves with a club like leeds or west ham (who's fans were an utter disgrace in europe this season). As an ex-pro boxer you would maybe think I like fighting but having done it the proper way going to a football match to have a fight or to cause one is pretty pathetic & cowardly behaviour.
Ashburton Gooner
game set and match to north london...
ernshaw
Rocky 7 - A dedicated one! But you are prob 1 in a milliion. why choose Arsenal in the first place? Ashburton - some great points there, in many ways an irrelevant argument. Ernshaw - why is that then?
Jacky B
basically guys - all i am trying to say is that whatever you think of spurs fans in general, thats not me. My honest opinion is that Spurs fans generally make big claims, and are often left with egg on there faces.However, they have a genuine passion. But i have met a lot of gooners - who also know nothing about football, and have only been watching (if they bother to watch at all) for 5 mins.
Jacky B
You can't really make a basis of Arsenal supporters based on people you've met. What matters really about supporting a team isn't how long you've supported them or even why but that you do. As with everything in life, there are always going to be varying degrees of support, those who believe that football is a way of life and those who believe football is just a game. We fill our stadium which is significantly lareger than yours consistently, if there is no better measure of judging support, that one is. The fact that you showed alleigence at the North bank and no one batted an eye-lid means nothing. It merely means we are more passionate about our team rather than one Spud who doesn't know any better. We had to build a bigger stadium not only to compete financially but also because we knew we had the fan base to support it. I seriously doubt there are even 60 000 Spurs fans in existence. I know a couple of workmates who are Spuds and none of them even compares in passion or team knowledge to even the laziest gooner fans I know. But then like I said before people you know aren't really golden standards for the majority.
Keplaz
But the point is (in my opinion) are the extra 20,000 fans? you make some ok points but contradict yourself twice - one of which you noticed.
Jacky B
oh, and the fans who you said were more bothered about your team than me were pretty much silent throughout - especially until the equaliser.
Jacky B
The other wasn't a contradiction just a direct response. Do you really think 20 000 people would be glory hunters or merchant bankers for every game? I don't think level of passion matters as much as existence of passion, however little but that said I'd prefer more hardcore supporters than casual ones and I believe the majority of our fans are that, hard core.
Keplaz
I was referring to "It means nothing. It mearly means...." guess that depends on interpretation. But i took your words literally
Jacky B
why is jacky b obsessed with pointless arguments abouts things that cant be proven,apart from one liverpool friend of mine,every football fan i know is passionate about their team,regardless of what team it is,you dont have to be violent,wear colours,stone island,wave flags,stand up sing or travel to away grounds,and spend thousands of pounds to be passionate about your team,just care about them,believe in them,and support them in anyway you seem fit,or your wallet can stretch to,if i was a quadreplegic who could only watch my team from my wheelchair,on t.v. unable to jump about when we scored or clap my hands and shout would it make me a lesser fan?iknow i am a gooner i consider all gooners to be part of my family,and all i care about is arsenal doing things the right way and not getting beat by spurs
fran merida
'Arsenal doin things the right way' From the Chairman who bribes the FA to the Manager who takes bungs and to the Ex-jailbird Captain.
HATEtheGOONS
He took bungs yet you was more than happy to employ him!
iceman10
Werren't the Totts docked 14 points and kicked out the Cup a few years back? Funny how the holier than thou attitude doesn't permit them to remember that. 87 we'll do it again!
Little Dutch
And we own the FA yet got docked 2 points in 90/91 for a minor skirmish at OT and they only got docked 1 point. We still won the league tho!
iceman10
Did'nt we also get those points back and get re-instated in the FA cup.What wind's people up is this so-called 'Arsenal way' rubbish,What,cos the libary had some art-deco and marble and is run by a toff.Littledutch,87' and all that,1-0 down 2-1 up yeah i've heard about it.Lookin at the teams,can't believe we lost,we had Gough,Waddle,Hoddle,C.Allen and you had the likes of Perry 'Soddin' Groves!
HATEtheGOONS
you lost cuz ur ******** *****, a bunch of no hopers, and our reserve team is going to finish off the tie at the ***** lane..
luckys_10
Wow, that's a lot of comments. Liverpool are crap, i thought we would win 3-0 like we did in the league, but i'm not complaining w 6-3 :). Oh, & one more thing... THE BEAST!!!
thenry009
Fran - so i have been arguing with myself then?
Jacky B
 

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