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The Arsenal vs. Manchester United

Ashburton Grove

21st Januray 2007

16:00 GMT

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The Arsenal V Man United

Man United visit Ashburton Grove on Sunday in one of the games of the season. If this fixture had come around back in early September then I think I can safely say that few Gooners would have predicted an Arsenal win.

But Arsenal are now finding their feet at their new home as the latest batch of young guns begin to come to terms with the physical nature of the Premiership. 15 goals for and 4 against (3 of them in one match) in their last four games and four victories could well mean that many-a-Gooner will be quietly (or not so quietly) confident.

United haven`t been doing so badly themselves 5 wins in their last 6 games although they have conceded 6 goals in their last 4 games. They also sit atop of the Premiership so they can`t be doing that badly this season.

Vital Quotes:

Arsene Wenger says Arsenal are determined to win not only this game, but to continue Arsenal's good run of form: 'In our mind it's a game that we want absolutely to win, I tell you.

'We love to win, we want to reduce the gap to Manchester United as quickly as possible and we want to continue our run because we're in good form. We're still involved in nearly every competition, even the championship, and you never know what can happen.'

When asked his opinion on who would win the title Wenger replied with: 'I have an idea in my head but if I give you my idea you won`t believe me.'

'I cannot say we will,' he added later, 'because we are 15 points behind Manchester United. But I think we have the ingredients and potential to become the best team.

'At the moment we are not because we cannot deny we lost at Sheffield United, Bolton, Manchester City. Even if they are games we could and should have won.

'But this is a good opportunity for us to close the gap a little bit. They've had the advantage of having stability and players in form at the right moment, but it's still not over. Don't forget they must go to Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham and Portsmouth. They have a difficult schedule.'

Some red-faced old git: 'If our best players perform at their normal level then we can cause problems for any team.

'Our form is excellent and hopefully we reach that level on Sunday.'

The Arsenal Team News:

Arsenal will be without William Gallas, Freddie Ljungberg and Johan Djourou while Robin van Persie faces a late injury test.

Gilberto misses the game through suspension after Lilly Savage assaulted him in the game at Blackburn.

Player to watch: Cesc Fabregas

Who else for the big games? The little Spainard has been outstand all season but never more so than when Arsenal have really needed him.

He may not have chipped in with as many goals as he would have liked but he has more Premiership assists than any other player this season as well as dictating countless games with the ruthlessness of Saddam Hussein.

I, along with many other Arsenal fan's expect a performance from Cesc.

Manchester United Team News:

The lucky old so n so's have a full squad to pick from after Wes Brown returned from illness.

Player to watch: Paul Scholes

The tenascious midfielder has been in fine form this season as recognised by Arsenal skipper Thierry Henry who says that Scholes will recieve his vote for player of the season.

Match Facts & Stats

I'm afriad I couldn't find any highlights of our previous meeting so instead I bring you this...

Ref Watch:

I'm afraid to say that Mike Riley will be the referee for this one. He is not the most popular Ref amongst Gooners for reasons I don't think I need to explain!

Fan's View:

Vital Arsenal Member CraigD:

I may be stating the obvious here, but I feel Arsenal can win on Sunday, and win by a few goals, but in my opinion it all depends on one thing : keeping Paul Scholes out of the game. We did it OT this season, and we (by)passed them in the middle of the park, and look at the result.

Forget Carrick with his sideways passes. Forget Ronaldo with his masses of tricks and ability. Forget Rooney with his powerful runs. Forget Larsson with his cute movement. If they don't see the ball, they can't do anything with it. Scholes is the man who makes United tick, and I think United realise after last season without him how much they need him. Apart from the spectacular goals he chips in with (his volley against Aston Villa was awesome), his distribution of the ball is up there with the best....

Just like our Cesc's....

The battle of the midfield between Fabregas and Scholes is going to be where this game is won and lost, and Fabregas knows it; 'For any football player in the Premiership, Scholes is a player you want to emulate.' he says, 'I am young and I hope that I will be able to surpass him - but it is not going to be easy.'

How quickly and accurately Cesc, Alex and Tomᚠcan get the football to our front line, whether it be Ade or RvP and Thierry will have the largest bearing on the outcome of this game, and the same goes for Scholes to Ronaldo et al...Cesc took on Vieira and won, the whole Real Madrid midfield and won, Scholes at Old Trafford and won...why not Scholes at Ashburton Grove? He may need a little backup from Flamini, but hopefully only for tidying up at the back.

I for one can't wait to see one of the best talents of the past decade take on one of the best talents of the next decade! ( I hope).

3-1 to Arsenal says I!

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Date:Saturday January 20 2007

Time: 6:39PM

Your Comments

3-1....hahaha.....u fluked a win at old trafford after being spanked off the park, look at how many points adrift of us you ur not even in the same league, go away now your laughable no one fears you anymore....especially at your new
The truth
Oh by the u remember losing that CL final to Larson...haha, come and compare ur self to our club wen you eventually win a european trophy lol
The truth
come to fink of it....spurs are more successful than you where it europe
The truth
Everyone who saw the Old Trafford game knows that Arsenal played United off the park that day. Sir Alex admits it, Rio Ferdinand admits it, and any United fans with a shred of honesty admits it. Will it be the same here? I doubt it...I reckon United will be a lot better prepared this time around. But are Arsenal capable of pulling off a similiar display? Absolutely. But then, so is United. Both teams when on song are about as good as they get in all of Europe, though the defense on both sides is still a little shakey. Should be a fantastic match...the last two matches at Old Trafford were brilliant simply because the teams played attractive, wide open football instead of trying to kick each other all over the pitch as in previous years. Hopefully we'll get the same sort of game tomorrow. Personally I'm predicting a 1-1 draw, which I think Fergie would be happy with after Chelsea disappeared at Anfield.
The truth? Doubtful. Ask any true football fan and they will inform you of the footballing battering you recieved in your own ground (the same ground we won the title in). You are supposed to be the biggest club in the world yet you havent won your own league for 3 years, in fact we have won it more recently than you, shameful. Should be a good game 2moro between the 2 best footballing sides in the prem, lets hope Old mother Riley doesnt spoil it!
The truth do you feel you are making a point? If Arsenal turn you over tomorrow you will be no further ahead, it aint over till the fat lady sings, I dont hear music yet, you have not won the league.
Come on UTD ! Ground the scum into the dirt,4-2 again,easy.Let's hope Gilberto has a good game,oh....Nevermind,Flamini to the rescue! :(
The truth? You probably know better than Ferguson about who deserved to win that game. Have you ever won the title at Highbury? No, and never will. There's an lol for you. And by the way, Coolio - Gangsta's paradise?! Poor:)
HtG old idiot! Welcome! Any news from mid-table obscurity?
Gl4 u oldsapp,yeah got a draw at some no-hopers 2day,at least we did'nt lose,that wud be embarrassing would'nt it.Plus we've got a bye into the Final of the League cup,so it's goin alrite.Hope your looking forward to seeing Ronaldo/Rooney/Scholes tearing your backline to pieces 2morrow.Enjoy.
Htg u m*r*n have a look at ur own stupid team who couldnt even win against a 10 man fulham. And the goal ur team scored was also offside. And btw u lot ll be wetting ur pants already by the fear of playing against the mighty Gunners reserve team. And i know where u lot be hiding after that. lmao
HTG and the worst crystal ball of all time! He said the same thing last week when we went to Blackburn. "at least we didnt lose" sounds like he is happy drawing with 10 men.
HTG returns with hi awesome footballing knowledge!! I love it when he makes predictions, infact I wished he predicted every game coz we'd be champions next week. Are you really so moronic that you refuse to learn from your previous mistakes and stop being such a big mouth?!?! I guess you are!
You think there bad,you shud see my betting slips.
make no mistake fergie will tell his players to go out there and kick us about. they are missing a few players who normally do that but scholes has enough bite for 3 dirty players and if Rooney gets wound up he could be liable to finish someones career. they did not kick us at all at OT and they got beat. man u can only marvel at our level of football. they are nothing but extremely good cloggers.
That makes u more stupid and worthy of a spurs fan tag as u bet on ur stupid predictions as well. lmao
Can HTG care to tell us how does it feel to be below the mighty reading?
this is one of the really really rare times that i am cheering for ya.So make me happy and beat the holy billy jesus out of ***** united.
k_chelski Is it a new way of begging something. As we care for amusing a bunch of bonkers for their liking. Btw I was certainlt amused after looking at Dogba*rk's pathetic control and some rubbish long ball play by Cska Chelski. And the cheers of BYE BYE MURINHIO and BYE BYE SHEVCHENKO amused me enormously. Well said Liverpool fans.
lol HTG you make us laugh everytime you're here, keep the good stuff going mate, we dun mind having a clown to give us a bit of entertainment every week..
Yeah that Alex Song is a bit of a muppett is'nt he.
He is better than Zakora! He has also played in a team that has won at Anfield, how many of your players can say that?
begging?Don't be ridiculous,as if arsenal doesn't want to beat manc.I am here to show my support(first and last time).It's up to you if u want it or not.
lol not as much as BMJ..
k_chelski your support is appreciated here, anyone who wants us to beat mancs is our welcomed here..
iceman he'll be a winner at the ***** lane too in a few days..
k_chelski Sry to tell u mate we dont need ur wonderful support which doesnt even fillup ur own stadium, we ve got our own support in place. Which has so far filled our 60000 seater stadium every matchday. If i would be u i would be keeping my support and even raising some more to fill up my own stadium on champions league games.
Sry LUCKY. There is a little bit of difference of opinion there. but i dont want any support which ll come back and disrespect Arsenal when the going gets tough.
Mr.ndsurgical , i am not here to proclaim love to arsenal (it's easier for the world to collapse then that to happen).You can do us a big favor(not that you want to) tomorrow by beating man.So in this special circumstance, really rare, i supported arsenal , in ONE post. and it wasn't even saying saying nice things about arsenal.It was about cursing tottenham.So i think you should read it again.And were i live, chelsea is pretty well supported.
I feel a draw coming on tomorrow..... suit both teams, and to be honest both would take an Injury free game as a bonus.
k_chelski Now thats a good post. It clearly states ur motives and intentions. Under these cicumstances we adore ur presence here. lol.
i thought chelsea fans might want us to win tomorrow, i think arsnal will play for themselves and not chelsea.. isn't is sad when you have to rely on other results to help you out.. not the way to win a league.
Puregold, hiv is sad, cancer is sad. This is just annoying.The biggest opponent chelsea faced this season was themselves.Our injuries, players not perfoming, etc ,etc.Even if you don't win it tomorrow, doesn't mean it's all over.We'll keep on fighting,we won't give up, simple as that.
that's what the spuds say, but midtable rarely escapes from their grasps.
k_chelski if united win today 9 pts will be too much, trust me, and your not out of the woods either, your form is pants right now and still not a soloution to your awful defensive nightmares, plus drogba can't seem to take a free kick and pass to his players, i saw mistakes all over the pitch yesterday and i thought a team in crisis and the manager seems to be losing his control over the players.
The truth, all I will say mate is that coming out and gloating and antagonising before the game is a dangerous game to play. As for Chelsea, no favours, we want to win for us. You would have thought the half a billion expenditure would be help enough. Greatness is best judged in adversity and Mourinho is looking very weak right now.
Little Dutch
I cant think of a better time of the season to be playing ManU, we are in good form, with a lot of our players back from injury. So im really looking forward to this one. Craig was spot on i think - the game is going to revolve around cesc and scholes. I have a good feeling abt this one.
mk dons could do with taking mark randle on loan do you know if wenger would let him go out on loan
the rodge
hey guys i know this is a little off topic, but Lauren has been given the number 10 jersey at portsmouth. i'm just wondering was he inspired by Billy :p..
I think both teams will be happy with the draw. I reckon both teams will play for the win for about 25-30 minutes & after that both will settle. Of course had the results yesterday gone against either club they would both want to win, but now I would think its a game neither manager really wants & one in which both will be happy to take a point & no injuries!! A point will take us a point further clear of portsmouth & bolton & also a point nearer to the pool who have an inferior goal difference. It also puts man utd 7 clear of chelski with a much superior goal difference so they would be happy with that.
Ashburton Gooner
BUt AG, imagine if we could actually pull off a win - it would take us closer to chelsea and Man U, and make sure that the gap with lpool is still just a point. greedy, i know, but hey, a man can hope :).
Arsenal is DUE to score an early goal (in the first 15 minutes) I hope it comes in this one.
prits, I am with you!! I would love arsenal to win it & win it well but I just don't think either manager will want to risk losing. A draw for arsenal is clearly not the greatest result but it does keep our current run of form going & I think wenger will care more about that than actually winning this particular game. On a side note I see Jol is already trying to get the delusional spuds fans back on side, saying the spuds were unlucky at our ground & that we didn't play well. Well if we played our "worst game" I think was his words then just imagine what the score would be if we played well!!
Ashburton Gooner
What the ****? I was just about to comment We need two Clichy, one on the left and one on the right.
Usually manU wants to win by kickinbg, it seems they want to win now by falling down.
Who can't head the ball??? WHO??????? In your face!!!!!!
Common u gunners...we can do anything...ANYTHING. League here we come.!!!
Crazy final minutes. I think Van der Saar and Evra paid dearly for delaying. Poetic Justice!!
yoooohooooooooo bo bo bo was like a movie script where are you now "the truth" the truth is cesc run circkes around you mofos and you know it. CMON BRING IT OOONNNN
Looks like my prediction wasn't far off eh? YAASSSSS!
My man of the match would be Adebayor. or Clichy, they were the people who were instrumental in keeping us in without letting the pressure on the ManU. Clichy made Ronaldo and Giggs look stupid, an most impressive feat. Adebayor was a near perfect point man upfront, hussling everyone and terrorizing the back four.
I will remember tonight for a long long time!! Yes a movie script ending. :) Wish we can do it again...Bring it ON.
Waiting for the Chelsea to come here. Sure would be interesting next few weeks :)
Flashback to '98
OH TO BE A GOONER ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lalalalalalalalalalalala..
***** RVP has bust his toe up dunno if its busted yet ..feck it
I think that we should create a special tipsters forum for HtG and the Truth, a place where they could leave their respective comments before every match.
3 wins and a draw against the big 3...pretty impressive...12 points ain't that far now...Champions anybody??? Oh, it's truly good to be a Gooner!!! :)
lol G4L they always prove to be lucky for us whenever they predict our matches, now i can't wait for their predictions for wednesday night, but coming back to the game, what a win folks, this team just makes us fall in love with them even more every week..
What a fantastic win. Hair raising stuff that really was. I still feel exited writing about it. I was jumping like a maniac after the second goal. I had an inner feeling that it was coming. But that was one of the best moments of watching football in my life. Right up there among the top 3. And in the end COME ON ARSENAL WE CAN DO IT.
Only thing I didn't like was Eboue's little dramas on the pitch. I am pretty sure he is a better player than this as he proved in the dying minutes of the game. He really needs to cut it out of his game.
Go on you Gunners!!
Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet Sweet !!!! oh to be a gooner in the 93 rd minute, this is awesome. didnt we win the league the last time we did the double on ManU :). Bring it on !!!!!!!!!!
AG AG AG - it pays to be greedy :). woo hooo !!! and what - MJ is talking? who the feck cares?
quest, spot on - eboue is much better than that, as he proved in the end with a fantastic cross, top class. just another instance of arsene being proven right, by letting lauren go !!!
And i expected more of ManU - started wasting time from the 70th minute - poor poor stuff !! . If they want to be reckoned as a champion side, then surely they can do better.
Heard that Van Persie broke his fifth bone in his foot while scoring the goal...Victory came at a a hefty price it seems...but nonetheless, 2-1 to the REAL champions!!! :)
still too far off. you aint winning no league
well if it were up to you lot we weren't winning this one either until our Captain nailed THAT header! 14 games to go. ANYTHING can happen! (even the spuds can be relegated!)
notice that those losers from three point lane are dead quiet now. yes thats the_truth and HTG. hows that 9th place feeling at the moment ? i cant WAIT to spank you again in the cup. maybe a 3-0 again or probably more. you two really are pathetic, much like your second rate players and manager.
14 games aint enough for us to lose over 12 points
i agree, youve won it. and deservedly so. Rooney im worried about though from an england perspective. hes been awful for ages. and again today. i think SAF needs to do what wenger did to henry and give him a break.
shrekisnotgod, today you lost 3 points. 42 to play for. I hope your team and Fergie think they've won it.
"Never Beat The Gooners" - It's tune, beat and rhythm of the song feels so "sweet" as Gunners shows wit and determination in them to frustrate ManU. Sing it baby. The Gunners are tops!!!!
Arsenal won, why dont you mention it lol :-)
i am red, i am white , i am drunk as effing ****e... and very hoarse. to anyone who was a manc, in my local boozer, 'one nil, and you *****'d it up!!!' »»Arsene Knows««
its too many points to make up,but you could lose to liverpool man city and chel$ki,thats nine points but its the other 3+ goal dif,that would win it for you.....
fran merida
hahaha rooney boy, if we dun win the title, we'll make sure that you dun win it either :p..
you beat us but you cant do nothing about the title for us now its still in our own hands
I'd rather see the mancs win it than the chavs. Whatever you think of the mancs, at least they've earned and created their legacy - they, along with the arse, have been the leading lights in the duration of the prem. As have we, hence why our tussles have always been so enjoyable and fraught. Just like yesterday's game :) which we won. NICE. »»Arsene Knows««
There were times when I was hoping that the Mancs would win rather than Chavski but every time we play ManUSA I hate them even more. I like Gary Neville for England, I absolutely detest the man for United. He blatantly tripped Henry and it looked like it was on purpose as well. It's times like that that get my blood boiling. I'd really rather neither of them won it but if I had to choose, I'd go Chelsea. I hate United too much. I dislike Fergie, Keano, Neville and Ronaldo much more than Fat Frank, Moaninho and all the Chavs at the Bridge.

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