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Arsenal vs. Hull City

Emirates Stadium

27/9/08

17:30

Arsenal v. Hull City

Arsenal go for their 4th straight win in the Barclay's Premier League this Saturday against newly promoted side Hull City. Arsenal has looked in impressive form since that horrendous slip up at Fulham and the team will be hoping to extend their time at the summit of the table. Hull City has been the surprise team so far in this campaign (besides Spurs of course) as they currently sit at an impressive 6th place in the table, and if it wasn`t for a terrible second half meltdown by the Tigers last week, they could be sitting in a Champions League place.

After the wonderful performance from the Kids midweek in the Carlos Cup, Arsenal`s first team will return to the starting lineup, rested and ready to go. This will be the second time the Gunners have hosted a newly promoted side at the Emirates this season, but these two games will probably be very different. West Brom came to Ashburton Grove with an attacking mindset and that gave Arsenal a lot of space to dictate the rhythm of the match. I doubt that will be the case tomorrow as Hull City`s manager, Phil Brown, learned his trade from the 'Kick and Ruff them up School of Football ' founded by Big Sam Allardyce. Hull will come and set up shop in front of their goal and try their best to stifle any creativity out of the game. Arsenal`s artistic midfield play makers, along with van Persie, will need to be sharp so they can break down the Hull defense.

Vital Quotes:

Arsene talked pre-match about the threat Hull provides. 'In every single game I believe the first importance is to focus on us being at our best and to cope with any difficulty which the opponents give us.

'You can take your hat off to Hull, because what they have done up to now is fantastic. They are the surprise package.

'It is a warning to us because we want an Arsenal side to be at our best to beat them.'

Arsene explains his views on appropriate tackles. 'It depends what you call a tough tackle,' said Wenger at his pre-match press conference.

'A defender has to be tough and committed, for me if tough is committed I don`t have a problem with it. If tough is the desire to hurt your opponent it`s not acceptable because that`s not the game.

The beauty of sport is to win in respect of the rules. If us as managers start to say we don`t have to respect the rules then it can`t be accepted. That`s in boxing, in football, in every sport. You have to respect the rules.

'It`s like you play tennis and the ball goes out but you say because it`s me it`s still good.'

Phil Brown revealed his game plan for Hull. 'Last week Arsenal were unhappy with a tackle from Kevin Davies but there was nothing wrong with it.

'If you allow Arsenal to dictate that tackle goes out of the game, then we are finished.

'We have got that tackle on our side - they have got the technical side of the game on their side.

'If they are allowed to express that technical side without tackling, without physical contact, we might as well not turn up.'

Arsenal Team News:

The injury report is filled with some good news as well as some bad. First off, Gael Clichy has been passed fit to play after sustaining a major blow last weekend. Many were concerned he might of broken his leg, so this is extremely good news that he is alright. Secondly, Mikael Silvestre will finally be available for match action since his move from Manchester United.

Now for the bad news, Alex Song received a knock on his hip near the end of the Sheffield United game and will have a late fitness test. If he is not ready to play then Arsene will probably go back to having Fabregas and Denilson share the center midfield responsibilities. Also Nasri is once again not ready to play, but reports say that he will be ready for the home tie against Portuguese giants, FC Porto, in the Champions League midweek. Rosicky is still recovering from his surgery, and Arsene admitted he does not know exactly when the Czech Republic captain will return but he seems to think it will be before the new year. Eduardo, Diaby, and Bischoff are all still out as well.

Player to watch: Denilson

If Alex Song is not fit to play, then this young man will have to return to playing a more defensive type game. In the last two games he has been given an attacking role, but he will have to adjust back to his old role. If he does not do this successfully then Arsenal might have some serious problems at the back.

Hull City Team News:

Defender Anthony Gardner will not participate in the game because he is still suffering from a thigh strain. Former Bolton and Greek midfielder Stelios Giannakopoulos has been ruled out of shape following his move to Hull this week so he will also not play a part. Another new signing Kamil Zayatte will start, and former Middlesbrough midfielder, George Boateng, will return to Hull's starting lineup.

Player to watch: Michael Turner

The Tigers key central defender and player of the season last year will have to be at his best to try and stop the Arsenal attack. He is the leader of their defense and if he plays poorly then it will probably spell defeat for Hull.

Match Facts & Stats

If Mikael Silvestre appears for Arsenal this weekend then he will be making his 250th Premier League appearance, though the first 249 were all for Man U.

This is Arsenal's 92nd campaign of top-flight football, but this is only Hull's first.

Arsenal, the league's best statistical defense, has not given up a goal at the Emirates this season.

This is Arsenal and Hull's first meeting since 1988 in the second round of the league cup.

Ref Watch:

Alan Wiley will the head official for this match. So far this season he has referred four matches, handing out 9 yellows and no reds.

Match Prediction:

Arsenal's players are well rested and full of confidence for this match. I see Hull putting up a good fight in the beginning but eventually tiring. Arsenal to win 4-0. Scorers for Arsenal will be Ade with two, Robin van Persie, and Carlos Vela to get one off the bench.

Next Fixtures:

30/9-- FC Porto(H)-- Champions League

4/10-- Sunderland(A)-- Premier League

18/10-- Everton(H)-- Premier League





Here I would like to give my congratulations and thanks to the great Arsene Wenger for 12 wonderful years at this club. There is really no use in me trying to describe how grateful I am to have him here because anything I could say would fall short of his actual value. Here's to at least 3 more magnificent years under The Professor!




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Date:Friday September 26 2008

Time: 11:11PM

Your Comments

All credit goes to Gooner Lou for the phrase 'Carlos Cup'! Haha
gunnerkid107
without sounding too cocky we should romp to a 3nil victory at least. we may score more
gunnerchi
Haha and I also like how you use capital letter "K" for the "Kids". I predicted 3-0, but I've just realised that idiot Lawro also got the same prediction on BBC.com, damn.
GoonerLou
I hope it's not another West Brom match, where most were thinking in double figure score-lines, then ending up a 1-0 victory.
Thing
I also would like to mention that Geovanni and Marlon King will be players to watch for Hull. I rate them both as decent strikers for the Premier League.
gunnerkid107
I dont think it will be an easy game for us, either a 2-1 or 3-1 result, coz I think our defence might let one in.
prits
carlos cup... priceless! hull will be tricky, but our first teamers will be keen to show the rest of the EPL our right to be on top of the table. therefore i reckon a win, but the goals may come towards the end of the game as hull gets tired from chasing the ball.
supersof
I hope to see a fast flowing football, but I think it will be a stop start affair, as Mr Brown has stated that his players will be hard in the tackles, so there maybe a few Free-Kicks for RvP to score from! So I'll go for a 5:0 win as Hull will have a player send-off, our goal scorers will be RvP 2, Cesc, Ade, Kolo!!!! Yep, I think Kolo will score this evening.
hackneyval
Give me a scrappy 1-0 now and I'd take it.
Little Dutch
I think 3-0 and Theo won't score
Tom14
I think Bendtner will continue his scoring streak
Joe_@**
I just hope no injuries occur, that's the thing I worry most about when playing lower level teams ( Sunderland, Birmingham).
Gunners
wats d situation wit song and nasri? any new development?
gunnerchi
its started again. united have gotten a penalty, when none of their players even appealed for it
gunnerchi
Yeah but is that surprising? Not really. I can't bring myself to feel for Bolton though, despite their admirable performance, especially Jaaskalainen.
GoonerLou
I must say Theo has been disappointing so far..and Fabregas too
CoastarianGooner
A bit.. I hope they'll up the game in the 2nd half, or send on Carlos/Niklas.
GoonerLou
why do we always have to go for the perfect goal?? they should take the half chance and shoot..in fact, they are more than half chance!!
lhchye
i cnt help bt fil disapointed by our play
gunnerchi
Theo!!!! At last!! Too bad I cant finish the game now as I have my own soccer game to play..laters....DARN! Ade almost scored!
CoastarianGooner
gunnerchi,thats the price that comes sometimes with resting players lol
CoastarianGooner
Maybe LD was right... "Give me a scrappy 1-0 now and I'd take it"...
GoonerLou
Damn, damn. But what a stunning goal.. Now we'll commit 10 men forward.
GoonerLou
what is going on??? :(
YankeeDeuce
I'm really trying very very hard not to scream. I think Niklas will do something, he's a great impact sub.
GoonerLou
have we pushd d panic button?
gunnerchi
Way too many missed chances.
YankeeDeuce
and its all over!
gunnerchi
How I wished I was only watching something from 1-2 years ago, but the Hull shirts were telling me it's not some old game.
GoonerLou
Absolute laughing stock. Bang goes our great unbeaten home record since April 07. And against Hull for pete's sake. All credit to Hull but we were *****. Van Persie couldn't hit a barn door. Walcott and Sagna are the only players to come out of that game with any credit. The rest were ***** poor. I can't wait to see people's player ratings for this game!!
adamski243
In a way, I'm glad this should be a strong enough wake-up call. A really big one.
GoonerLou
Disgraceful. If Arsenal players think teams are going to come to the Emirates and roll over, they need their pay checks docked. This has to be one of the worst performances I have ever seen. Ade and RVP look shockingly out of sync. Eboue had a terrible game. Gallas again was beaten in the air for the 2nd goal. No one closed Geovani down for the 1st goal. If we play like this net week, Porto will kill us.
themadafrican
You say that Lou but the Fulham game should have provided that. Hull played well, and defended for their lives, but we should expect that from poorer sides and we should have at least got a draw. Our defending from set pieces really needs to be looked at.
adamski243
Credit to Phil Brown and his team. They played very well.
themadafrican
Lou, how many wake up calls do we need. This is the beat league in the world. No game is easy. What the team needs is a wake up call at 4.00am tomorrow morning and get their ar__ses down to that training ground and practice learning to close attackers down and defend corners and set pieces. Something we teach our kids to do every weekend on the training ground.
themadafrican
I know Adamski, that's why I'm deepy disappointed. I guess I was just saying that to pick myself up. Yeah the whole Hull team played well. Sometimes I just wonder if the players really want to win, or are they taught to be too "patient" with their build-up play?
GoonerLou
Also, I can't say Theo did well either, only got into the game in 2H. But this was still not as bad as Fulham and yeah, I thought that was a wake-up call already? Sigh, I'll go and cook something, watch something else, read a book now. Also imagine what the MotD ********s will say about us lol.
GoonerLou
disappointed..our 2 strikers are poor..miss too much chance..esp RVP..our kids played better than the 1st team :(
lhchye
I really don't want to fly off the handle but I'm pretty damn annoyed by that display. Credit to Hull as they deserved their win. Cesc was pretty poor by his standards today, but I'm starting to lose a little patience with RVP. I know it's only a defeat and we've seen some great performances of late, but I honestly think that it's time that he should be made to fight for his place. I'm just glad that it's Arsene in the dressing room and not me right now, grrrrrrrrrrrr
flv
We are a serious problem. Hull beat us to all the 50/50 balls today and that just isnt good enough. Actually, I thought the only players who looked the part today was Clichy and Toure. Sagna had a ok game, Gallas lost his positioning again at set pieces, Cesc was poor, Denilson didnt look commited. Eboue had his worst game of the season. Theo faded in and out. Ade and RVP were just plain bad. What a terrible loss and I dont want to say we wont win anything as it is too early but if Wenger does not sort this out, we are in terrible trouble.
themadafrican
All the best from a Chelsea Fan for rest of the season.I guess after that 6-0 win the perfect way to bring urselfs in Real Wolrd.LOL
Saimon_blues
Flv, what you said about RvP was exactly why I'm particularly disappointed with his display. He was "rested" against Bolton so he's not like playing every game. I don't know what Arsene can do to make him realise that he has to fight for his place. What's not helping was that Arsene didn't take off RvP when he threw on Vela/Bendtner (although I did/do understand the need for more firepower when we're trailing). I honestly think Bendtner and Vela are the best forwards we've got on form right now.
GoonerLou
Couldnt agree more Lou about Nic and Vela. Wenger will never drop Ade though. He is like TH14 used to be. Untouchable,
themadafrican
'slip up at Fulham'? More like laughing stock at 'The Library'.....lmao. Oh well, your team gave old Whinger a cool present for the 12 year stint..........1st team my ass, bring back the kids!!!!
Scott Spur
Saimon Blues, the CC game and this one had 2 completely, I say completely, different starting lineups. Only Bendtner and Vela who played on Tue came on as subs. What's wrong about us being proud of the kids but be upset about the first-teamers' display? Use your logic please.
GoonerLou
I'd take the laughter from the Chelsea guys, at least they're above us in the table and rightly so. But those below us, eff right off.
GoonerLou
Sorry Lou, couldnt resist the chance to pop over the fence ;))
Scott Spur
Hey Scottspur. Where are you lot in the table. You dont even have a win. Talk about laughing stock.
themadafrican
I briefly saw the Porto game yesterday. They're not very strong but solid enough to give us some tough time, they're pacy and quite efficient. And considering that, I'd still say I won't be afraid to use Bendtner and Vela up front and Ramsey in CM to get 3 points against them in the CL next week. That's how disappointed I was with RvP, Ade and Cesc. And I'm just talking based on form.
GoonerLou
hey mad, maybe so, but we our title hopes haven't just had a reality check either, we never had any!!! Bet you aint as mad as Wenger now..........anyone hear who he blamed it on? Ref, linesman, dirty Hull players....or maybe sunspots???
Scott Spur
The problem Lou is that Cesc doesnt have the his play mate the Flamster around to clean up his occasional bad pass. Denilson tries but doesnt have the engine or aggresion. I would be tempted to play Jack next to Cesc but he is just too young
themadafrican
Welcome to this side of the fence Scott Spur. But have you thought of why you felt such an urge to come over after just one loss on our part when you haven't even got one win? Did you honestly not anticipate the possibility of being laughed back at? Don't get me wrong, I'm not the abusive type. Just confused.
GoonerLou
Scott, Thats the one thing I agree with you one. Wenger will look to divert the blame instead of just saying we were plain shocking,
themadafrican
Mad, I had been wondering how long the Cesc-Denilson or Cesc-Song partnerships could last, Den and Song aren't "natural" DMs. I don't know. But I thought it's not only that, it's our reliance on trying to outscore our opponents to win games, given the worst defence in the top 4 bracket I'll admit. That's why Wenger's quotes about the small number of goals conceded so far earlier this week got on my nerve, that kind of praise is exactly what we did NOT need at this stage when we've been lucky at the back. It's also that we can't rely on our attack forever, strikers go through goal droughts, decisions may go against us, etc etc. If we don't really clean up the defence, the league is a really tough ask.
GoonerLou
No Mad, I think that's just what Wenger will say publicly, trying to take the positives, being protective of his players, blah blah blah. But I'm very sure he will spank them in the dressing room. He's not the yelling type, but I'm sure he'll made himself heard in no uncertain terms.
GoonerLou
Agree Lou. Actually, I dont think its all gloom Djourou is a fine player. The weakness in defense at the moment is Gallas. He is too inconsistant. I would go with DJ and Toure in the center and possibly even Silvestre. That is his best position. There was a play to day when King broke with the ball. Gallas was so out of position that Toure had to scramble back to cover. I am picking on Gallas at the moment because I feel he is not doing a captains job. That is to pull the team around and shake them up.
themadafrican
What grates me more than anything Lou is that if somebody asked me whether our midweek CC team would have made a better fist of it against Hull, my answer would truly and honestly have to be yes. That's what hurts the most. The first team need a damn good kick up the arse.
flv
Disappointing performance, esp by the defence and Gallas. Not the first time that he has lost his man, and its so frustrating to see the same mistakes. An experienced pro like Gallas surely needs to get his act together. That said, the rest of the team were somehow kacking in urgency, even after going behind a goal. We were slightly unlucky but mostly, our finishing wasnt good enough. well played Hull City, deserved the 3 pts.
prits
this is not to all genuine gunners fans on here just some of miniorty, of those of come on to spurs sites to cause a bit of up roar, rather then honest banter......smiles quietly in the corner,,,,,,,,hull......cough cough.
123spurs
First smile I ve had on my face this season.:-) Cheers Goons.
TrueSpur
Just got back from the game. Don't know what went wrong there really and I don't think its right to blame individuals. Yes you have to give credit to Hull but a team like Arsenal really has to be able to handle what they have to offer and break them down. I can't see us winning the league in a season where we lose to Fulham and Hull at home because these are games where we absolutely must get points out of. Is everyone else feeling as pessimistic as me about our chances of silverware this year?
Gooner_Vin
Well Done to Hull, deserved the win, I felt that they certainly wanted it more, Good Luck to them, and their fans. We played as if the game had no meaning. We knew that L'pool , Chelski and Manure all won today. So we should have taken to that pitch all guns blazing and won that game. What were they thinking, it was so frustrating watch our players not show any urgency.
hackneyval
BBC website has now put on Arsene's interview, you can tell just how much the defeat hurts him. He quite rightly points out that we weren't commited or focused enough. That is true, Hull definitely looked sharper and seemed to want it more. We wanted to cruise it, it seems...
Gooner_Vin
The urgency thing you guys have suggested, I've been thinking for a while now. Is it bcos Arsene keeps telling them to "be patient", "keep playing our own game and the goals will come", "don't panic when we go a goal down, stay calm and keep creative chances to score", etc etc etc? I can understand that argument bcos we've got to stick to our strength (passing game) to stand a good chance to score. But is that getting into the players' heads too much you think? Is that why we lack urgency?
GoonerLou
For the Spurs guys who've enjoyed this: I personally don't mind what you think at all, even kind of glad to have entertained you guys. But just one thing: if you're jumping up and down over one loss on our part, imagine the tremendous entertainment we've had on this side of the fence over yours.
GoonerLou
Nah Lou, dont over think it. It was a bad day at the office. There have been other times when urgency was needed, and it was shown. Tpday however, it wasnt. In the 75th minute, our players were strolling to take corners when we were trailing by a goal. That was only a sign of things, as there wasnt anyone really having a go at everyone telling them to up the tempo.
prits
gunnerchi...What goes around comes around ha,ha,ha,ha,
alphieblues
Prits, your point's basically confirming my guess - pure complacency then? In which case it's even more disappointing - the manager has exactly warned against that in his pre-match interview, press conference, everywhere you saw him. That makes me even more upset if that's what was in their heads on the anniversary of the great man to whom they owe so much. Sigh. Yeah I'll take your advice, not to think too much now.
GoonerLou
Lou - I think you've got it spot on - I think complacency is probably the key word for today's performance.
Gooner_Vin
I'm pretty gutted about the result, can't bear to watch any more footy this weekend. What can I say to make myself feel better? the usual cliches 'we'll learn from our mistakes', 'it's all part of the learning curve'. At least it's not too long before our next game, a good performance against Porto will raise my spirits a bit. Thank god, theres no international break.
jubair
Finishing again....we should have had a hatful...no good moaning about the defence when we have about ten chances and only get one....
radarman
WHAT DOES ADEBAYOR HAVE TO DO TO BE DROPPED? BENDTNER DID MORE THAN HIM IN 20 MINUTES THAN THE USELESS OAF DID IN 90 !
Will-i-am10
What a goal by Geovani though... Goal of the month?
The_Legend_Of_Zola
Well who would have predicted that. Hull are defending like Tigers at the moment
Red Wimp
From where I was sitting Cesc played like a man who is more worried about getting injured than scoring a goal. Either he is carrying a knock or he was just terrified of getting kicked today. Very unlike him. I've said it elsewhere - I know RvP has buckets of skill but he isn't impressing me. Flicks and tricks are neat but I want him to bust his ass for the team. If his is unwilling or unable then he should sit out. These players just look to cocky and casual when meeting lesser opponents. Hopefully getting knocked on their butts twice by the little guys will get their attention, because I don't want to watch this garbage all season. (I still think the lineup I suggested in the prematch thread would hvae fought harder and pulled it off)
smithdj74
Kevin, does it really matter. If we play like today, it might as well be Barnet. Thats where these multi million football players deserve to be playing. I have never booed Arsenal in my life and I did not today but I feel absolutely dejected.
themadafrican
he's in my dream team dont drop him pls
123spurs
I agree i think youl win 4-0
HuddersfieldYiddo
Hey don't worry so much. Its just Hull City....AT HOME! Couldn't believe my eyes honestly. Every club will have their fair share of bad days this season though.
ForeverUnited
we didn't do enough to deserve to win. not many dangerous shots on target. one of those games.
fcdematthew
after d champions league match i made reference to gallas poor positinal and overall play but some folks shoved it down my throat. here's to another also ran season
gunnerchi
 

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