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Arsenal vs. Hull

Emirates Stadium

17/3/09

19:45

Arsenal v. Hull City

Today Hull City visit the Emirates for the second time this season, and a much improved performance from Arsenal will be needed this time around if they are to book a date at Wembley against Chelsea in the FA Cup semifinals. A showing more like we saw at the KC Stadium back in January should see Arsenal through.

Vital Quotes:

Wenger has spoken of his squads hunger to end this frustrating season on a high note. 'Of course there is a burning desire to win a trophy and if we focus on our performances then we can create something special.

'If we are consistent we will be ahead of Villa at the end of the season. We have the experience to cope with pressure and that helps.

'I expected us to win against Blackburn but I didn't expect Villa to lose to Tottenham. That was the bonus of the weekend.'

Without the captain and linchpin of the team, Cesc Fabregas, the Boss said the team has had to change its style. 'We have had to [adapt]' Wenger told ATVO.

'I believe we will all be happy when Cesc comes back but we had to cope without him and of course, I believe it will be a big lift for everybody when he`s back. But we had to do without him.

'When he`s there, everything goes through him but when he`s not it can take a while to adapt because the game goes through different ways - it`s plural.

'When it`s Fabregas it is more one-way traffic at the start of the build-up.'

Arsenal Team News:

After having eight stitches in the side of his foot at halftime of the Blackburn game, Andrey Arshavin is a doubt, but he is rushing to get himself back for this game. Wenger said Andrey was 'desperate' to play. Eduardo is out for one more game, while Ramsey and Almunia are also out. Manuel has a sprained ankle from that disgusting challenge by Diouf. Fabianski will be between the posts for his usual spot in cup games. Gael Clichy will be rested for this game, and the ever reliable Gibbs will step in in his place.

Possible Starting XI: Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Toure, Gibbs, Eboue, Song, Denilson, Arshavin, Nasri, van Persie

Player to watch: Kieran Gibbs

Kieran might not be the match winner, but I will be watching him because of how impressive he has been this season. It seems we have another real talented left back on our hands that is molded to our attacking style of play, like his predecessors Cole and Clichy. Look for him to lock down Hull's right midfielder, something Clichy had trouble doing at the KC Stadium.

Hull Team News:

Hull will be without long term absentees and influential midfielders Jimmy Bullard and George Boateng. And since Kevin Kilbane is cup-tied Andy Dawson will step in at left mid. Dean Marney will sit out the last match of his three match ban for a red card against Blackburn at the beginning of the month.

Player to watch: Manucho

On-loan Manchester United striker will most likely be preferred to Cousin for this match. In January Manucho came on as a sub and caused the Arsenal defense problems until Djourou put a hole in his head during a play which should of resulted in a Hull penalty. The Angolan has looked good as of late so Gallas and whoever partners him will have their hands full.

Match Facts & Stats

Arsenal haven't lost a domestic match since late November.

This is Arsenal's best cup run since 2005 when we last lifted the trophy.

The last time these two sides met in the FA Cup was a 1930 semifinal and Arsenal advanced.

Match Prediction:

With the new found spirit and desire in our squad, I see Arsenal progressing past a resilient Hull. I will go with 3-1 to the Arsenal with van Persie getting on the score sheet while Eboue and Arshavin continuing their goal scoring ways.

Next Fixtures:

21/3 (Sat) - Newcastle (A) - Premier League

4/4 (Sat) - Manchester City (H) - Premier League

7/4 (Tue)- **Quarter-Final TBD** - Champions League




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Writer: Brice Coffer Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday March 17 2009

Time: 12:25PM

Your Comments

I'm interested to see who will start today with Arshavin possibly too injured to play and Nasri needing a rest. Hey Amos, I was wondering who has played the most minutes for the team so far this year. Seems like Sagna has played a ridiculous amount lately.
TPowell
I'm interested to see who will start today with Arshavin possibly too injured to play and Nasri needing a rest. Hey Amos, I was wondering who has played the most minutes for the team so far this year. Seems like Sagna has played a ridiculous amount lately.
TPowell
I'd like to see Brice's lineup above. Just that I'm not sure if Nasri might need a rest, having played full games in Rome. In case he or AA couldn't start, I'd fancy Vela to do a good job with his pace and tricks against the Hull defence. 3-1 also sounds reasonably achievable for us. Now I'll confidently go and get a few hours' sleep and get up at 3.30am for this. :)
GoonerLou
I'd like to see Brice's lineup above. Just that I'm not sure if Nasri might need a rest, having played full games in Rome. In case he or AA couldn't start, I'd fancy Vela to do a good job with his pace and tricks against the Hull defence. 3-1 also sounds reasonably achievable for us. Now I'll confidently go and get a few hours' sleep and get up at 3.30am for this. :)
GoonerLou
I think there's a good chance Vela will start. There is also a chance Wenger will throw Bendtner into the fray straight away to get his confidence back.
navydave
Think we'll see Fabianksi start as opposed to Almunia (obviously) and Djorou as opposed to either Gallas or Toure with Ramsey getting the nod - possibly ahead of Denilson.
shewore
I think there's a good chance Vela will start. There is also a chance Wenger will throw Bendtner into the fray straight away to get his confidence back.
navydave
Think we'll see Fabianksi start as opposed to Almunia (obviously) and Djorou as opposed to either Gallas or Toure with Ramsey getting the nod - possibly ahead of Denilson.
shewore
......... probably not both though!
navydave
......... probably not both though!
navydave
Thought Ramsey was to rest because of growing pains. Think you will find Denilson has been the hardest worked player for us this season.
alwaysgunner
Thought Ramsey was to rest because of growing pains. Think you will find Denilson has been the hardest worked player for us this season.
alwaysgunner
hmm, yeah AG you might be right, I remember now that Sagna did miss at least a couple of games earlier this year due to injury.
TPowell
hmm, yeah AG you might be right, I remember now that Sagna did miss at least a couple of games earlier this year due to injury.
TPowell
Can someone explain to me Arsene's explanation in his pre-match interview for resting Ramsey?
jaelle
Can someone explain to me Arsene's explanation in his pre-match interview for resting Ramsey?
jaelle
What he said is what he said. We never know if he is telling the truth or not. You just have to assume he thinks Ramsey is having a difficult time physically coping at his age and build. I expect Denilson to be rested with Diaby coming in, hope not though.
Tom14
What he said is what he said. We never know if he is telling the truth or not. You just have to assume he thinks Ramsey is having a difficult time physically coping at his age and build. I expect Denilson to be rested with Diaby coming in, hope not though.
Tom14
I think Nasri won't play: he completed 120 mins in Rome, and outran everyone on the pitch on Sat vs. Blackburn. He is due a rest and with the likes of Vela and Theo itching for a start it is logical that he'll take a rest. Also Arshavin's 8 stitches are worrying and I believe he'll start on the bench against Hull.
G4L
I think Nasri won't play: he completed 120 mins in Rome, and outran everyone on the pitch on Sat vs. Blackburn. He is due a rest and with the likes of Vela and Theo itching for a start it is logical that he'll take a rest. Also Arshavin's 8 stitches are worrying and I believe he'll start on the bench against Hull.
G4L
Happens with young players. Evidently, Wilshere has been struggling slightly in training which is why he has not featured for a while other than in the U-19s, young players go through peaks and troughs. Ramsey looked excellent in November, but after the Cardiff game he had a bit of a dip and has made some errors in games. All part of the growing process.
Little Dutch
I was thinking the same thing G4L, but I feel as though we'll need one or the other out there tonight.
TPowell
Happens with young players. Evidently, Wilshere has been struggling slightly in training which is why he has not featured for a while other than in the U-19s, young players go through peaks and troughs. Ramsey looked excellent in November, but after the Cardiff game he had a bit of a dip and has made some errors in games. All part of the growing process.
Little Dutch
I was thinking the same thing G4L, but I feel as though we'll need one or the other out there tonight.
TPowell
ok, fair enuf, LD, I was just a little confused by AW's explanation. On another subject entirely, am I alone in being royally fed up with Sheffield United's persistent campaign to milk everything they can in their scapegoating campaign v. West Ham, blaming their relegation entirely on one player instead of looking at their team's own failings? Just when you thought the whole saga had come to an end, now Warnock opens it all up again by saying he's going to sue West Ham himself. Not that I defend WHam's conduct in the affair but SheffU's Whingeing Campaign just strikes me as something only a club of loser crybabies would persist with. Looks to me like they and Warnock won't be happy until they destroy WHam entirely.
jaelle
ok, fair enuf, LD, I was just a little confused by AW's explanation. On another subject entirely, am I alone in being royally fed up with Sheffield United's persistent campaign to milk everything they can in their scapegoating campaign v. West Ham, blaming their relegation entirely on one player instead of looking at their team's own failings? Just when you thought the whole saga had come to an end, now Warnock opens it all up again by saying he's going to sue West Ham himself. Not that I defend WHam's conduct in the affair but SheffU's Whingeing Campaign just strikes me as something only a club of loser crybabies would persist with. Looks to me like they and Warnock won't be happy until they destroy WHam entirely.
jaelle
yeah jaelle, Tevez only played in 26 league games and scored only 7 goals... at some point you have to hold yourself accountable.
TPowell
yeah jaelle, Tevez only played in 26 league games and scored only 7 goals... at some point you have to hold yourself accountable.
TPowell
I too think that Theo and Vela will start for us with Arshavin on the bench. Come on The Arsenal!!!
hackneyval
I too think that Theo and Vela will start for us with Arshavin on the bench. Come on The Arsenal!!!
hackneyval
Theo and Vela on the wings RVP and Nicky up front, Song and Diaby in the middle Gibbs, Gallas, Djouru and Sagna with Fabiansky in goal should be enough to see off Hull, keep Andrei and Nasri on the bench just in case if they are needed.
Armory
Theo and Vela on the wings RVP and Nicky up front, Song and Diaby in the middle Gibbs, Gallas, Djouru and Sagna with Fabiansky in goal should be enough to see off Hull, keep Andrei and Nasri on the bench just in case if they are needed.
Armory
Eboue to score? Eboue always scores...... lol...
Gael-Force
Eboue to score? Eboue always scores...... lol...
Gael-Force
I want a hattrick from our newest goal machine! Our African Messi -- Hull City, get ready to be Eboued!
jaelle
I want a hattrick from our newest goal machine! Our African Messi -- Hull City, get ready to be Eboued!
jaelle
Would'nt it just be like football for Eboue to go out and have a blinder tonight?
deledudu
Would'nt it just be like football for Eboue to go out and have a blinder tonight?
deledudu
Fabianski; Sagna Gallas Djourou Gibbs; Diaby Song; Walcott Arshavin Vela; van Persie
Tom14
Fabianski; Sagna Gallas Djourou Gibbs; Diaby Song; Walcott Arshavin Vela; van Persie
Tom14
Surprised Eboue didn't get a start.
gunnerkid107
Surprised Eboue didn't get a start.
gunnerkid107
Just a bit surprised Bendtner doesn't start, but that's a good enough lineup. Come on the Arsenal!!
GoonerLou
Just a bit surprised Bendtner doesn't start, but that's a good enough lineup. Come on the Arsenal!!
GoonerLou
Another comedy goal conceded. AW is furious with his team, they've started very slowly and are playing like this will be a cakewalk. They seem to have forgotten that Hull have a 100% record against London teams.
jaelle
Another comedy goal conceded. AW is furious with his team, they've started very slowly and are playing like this will be a cakewalk. They seem to have forgotten that Hull have a 100% record against London teams.
jaelle
Stop trying long balls please...
GoonerLou
Stop trying long balls please...
GoonerLou
already time wasting. I don't care if you beat us with a fluke goal, just have the balls to play us straight up!
TPowell
already time wasting. I don't care if you beat us with a fluke goal, just have the balls to play us straight up!
TPowell
Unbelievable! And the media worship a manager who starts timewasting 5 mins into the game. We really don't look like scoring.
jaelle
Unbelievable! And the media worship a manager who starts timewasting 5 mins into the game. We really don't look like scoring.
jaelle
"Hull have a 100% record against London teams" -- they have a 100% record against London teams when they meet them in London, that is.
jaelle
"Hull have a 100% record against London teams" -- they have a 100% record against London teams when they meet them in London, that is.
jaelle
We've spent the entire 1st half getting into the game. The creative players are looking better now. We need to cut out on the long balls, every single one of which gets headed away by their defence, and play on the ground, that's when we look more creative and dangerous. And how did Gallas get a yellow there? Thought he got the ball. Also did Riley see #24 downed Theo in the box? Is it just me?!
GoonerLou
We've spent the entire 1st half getting into the game. The creative players are looking better now. We need to cut out on the long balls, every single one of which gets headed away by their defence, and play on the ground, that's when we look more creative and dangerous. And how did Gallas get a yellow there? Thought he got the ball. Also did Riley see #24 downed Theo in the box? Is it just me?!
GoonerLou
I think Gallas got the ball, but the player did kick it away at the same time. 50/50. Our attacking players need to get into gear and I never understand why van Persie is played off a striker, especially Vela. Vela should be on the left with Arshavin playing behind van Persie.
Tom14
I think Gallas got the ball, but the player did kick it away at the same time. 50/50. Our attacking players need to get into gear and I never understand why van Persie is played off a striker, especially Vela. Vela should be on the left with Arshavin playing behind van Persie.
Tom14
Yeah Tomf that's what I thought would be the lineup when I saw the names. I was a bit disappointed to see AA in LW. I'd really like AW to move him to the hole, Vela in LW. But that's not really the main problem as our players are mobile and running around interchanging positions. I just thought the creativity was only starting to kick in the last 10 mins of the 1st half. Let's go from there and do better now.
GoonerLou
Yeah Tomf that's what I thought would be the lineup when I saw the names. I was a bit disappointed to see AA in LW. I'd really like AW to move him to the hole, Vela in LW. But that's not really the main problem as our players are mobile and running around interchanging positions. I just thought the creativity was only starting to kick in the last 10 mins of the 1st half. Let's go from there and do better now.
GoonerLou
Dont think its our day Lads!!
gunner24
Dont think its our day Lads!!
gunner24
Keep the faith!
GoonerLou
Keep the faith!
GoonerLou
What the hell?! Was this the 9th time RvP hit the woodwork?!?!
GoonerLou
What the hell?! Was this the 9th time RvP hit the woodwork?!?!
GoonerLou
Yeah, more like it, bring on Eboue i say?
gunner24
Well done Bendtner, Arshavin, and van Persie!!!! COMON ARSENAL!!!
gunnerkid107
Yeah, more like it, bring on Eboue i say?
gunner24
Well done Bendtner, Arshavin, and van Persie!!!! COMON ARSENAL!!!
gunnerkid107
fantastic awareness by Arshavin and great effort from Bendtner to get RVP the goal
TPowell
YES! YES! YES! ARSHAVIN IS F---ING GOD!!! His attitude toward our clueless players: STOP CELEBRATING AND LET'S WIN THIS!
jaelle
Crosses are finally useful with Bendtner in the box. Credit to him for working hard to keep the ball from Theo's cross in play. Also credit to AA for being unselfish and clever for picking a pass instead of shooting. Let's go on and win now! :D
GoonerLou
fantastic awareness by Arshavin and great effort from Bendtner to get RVP the goal
TPowell
YES! YES! YES! ARSHAVIN IS F---ING GOD!!! His attitude toward our clueless players: STOP CELEBRATING AND LET'S WIN THIS!
jaelle
Crosses are finally useful with Bendtner in the box. Credit to him for working hard to keep the ball from Theo's cross in play. Also credit to AA for being unselfish and clever for picking a pass instead of shooting. Let's go on and win now! :D
GoonerLou
COOMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN
TPowell
COOMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN
TPowell
All Bendtner bashers listen up! There's a reason Roma were afraid of Bendtner, his ability with high balls, you haters! We just got that game-saving goal because he's the only player we had on the pitch who could get on the other end of a cross!
jaelle
All Bendtner bashers listen up! There's a reason Roma were afraid of Bendtner, his ability with high balls, you haters! We just got that game-saving goal because he's the only player we had on the pitch who could get on the other end of a cross!
jaelle
AA has already registered 1 goal and 3 assists, yes? :)
GoonerLou
AA has already registered 1 goal and 3 assists, yes? :)
GoonerLou
All hail the African Messi Goal Machine!
jaelle
All hail the African Messi Goal Machine!
jaelle
Ok, I now officially LOATHE Mike Riley!
jaelle
BILLY G baby
TPowell
Ok, I now officially LOATHE Mike Riley!
jaelle
BILLY G baby
TPowell
HaHa I'll be happy if we win by a dodgy goal, serves Hull right for employing cheating timewasting tactics!! (",)
jubair
HaHa I'll be happy if we win by a dodgy goal, serves Hull right for employing cheating timewasting tactics!! (",)
jubair
wow, they can take goal kicks within 30 seconds, who new?
TPowell
wow, they can take goal kicks within 30 seconds, who new?
TPowell
That wasn't offside! ;)
gunnerkid107
That wasn't offside! ;)
gunnerkid107
jubair, you're so right! They deserve nothing better. Freaking timewasting when the game has barely started. GALLAS comes thru once again, the guy's just a massive player for us, to hell with all the drama about him. I LOVE WILLIAM!
jaelle
jubair, you're so right! They deserve nothing better. Freaking timewasting when the game has barely started. GALLAS comes thru once again, the guy's just a massive player for us, to hell with all the drama about him. I LOVE WILLIAM!
jaelle
nasri n bendtner made the differance
gunner24
nasri n bendtner made the differance
gunner24
well, its a shame they did all that time wasting earlier on, maybe they would have had time to score again, they'll never know.
TPowell
Yay we win, the cheats lose, try getting your team to play football next time Brown!
jubair
well, its a shame they did all that time wasting earlier on, maybe they would have had time to score again, they'll never know.
TPowell
Yay we win, the cheats lose, try getting your team to play football next time Brown!
jubair
Is there a worse ref in the league than Riley? An absolute clown. Great result though, they showed such resilience to come back from that fluke of a goal.
Ezekiel
I hope Arsenal won't be the death of me! My blood pressure has gone through the roof. Phew! Arseshavin is some player, and is it my imagination or has Song suddenly become a "world class" player?
deledudu
Is there a worse ref in the league than Riley? An absolute clown. Great result though, they showed such resilience to come back from that fluke of a goal.
Ezekiel
I hope Arsenal won't be the death of me! My blood pressure has gone through the roof. Phew! Arseshavin is some player, and is it my imagination or has Song suddenly become a "world class" player?
deledudu
Riley was awful, but Coward Webb is still the worst in my books
jubair
Riley was awful, but Coward Webb is still the worst in my books
jubair
Poor form for Arsene, refusing to shake hands with Brown. I understand his frustration but you know the media will make hay out of it. No sympathy for Hull at all, they got what they deserved. Play f---ing football instead of defending a 1 goal lead for 80 minutes by desperate amateur timewasting tactics. And Riley was a massive massive scumbag, refusing to call Hull on so many fouls, it was comical.
jaelle
Poor form for Arsene, refusing to shake hands with Brown. I understand his frustration but you know the media will make hay out of it. No sympathy for Hull at all, they got what they deserved. Play f---ing football instead of defending a 1 goal lead for 80 minutes by desperate amateur timewasting tactics. And Riley was a massive massive scumbag, refusing to call Hull on so many fouls, it was comical.
jaelle
I enjoyed the Gallas goal and the way he and the team celebrated it. He just looked at the crowd, arms in the air, smiling as if he had banished the previous bitterness and demons, almost Tony Adam-style!
GoonerLou
I agree Song has improved massively, much more confident on the ball and better awareness, I was slightly disappointed to see him go off.
jubair
I enjoyed the Gallas goal and the way he and the team celebrated it. He just looked at the crowd, arms in the air, smiling as if he had banished the previous bitterness and demons, almost Tony Adam-style!
GoonerLou
I agree Song has improved massively, much more confident on the ball and better awareness, I was slightly disappointed to see him go off.
jubair
Out of interest I just did a bit of research on Mr Riley and was amused to find there is a whole section in his wiki dedicated to criticisms against him. Riley vs. Webb for the Ultimate Jester award... too close to call.
Ezekiel
Out of interest I just did a bit of research on Mr Riley and was amused to find there is a whole section in his wiki dedicated to criticisms against him. Riley vs. Webb for the Ultimate Jester award... too close to call.
Ezekiel
It's just ridiculous that, despite Riley's comical decisions and lack of decisions on quite a few occasions, Hull still got 5 yellow cards: 2 for unsporting behaviour, 1 for dissent, 1 for not retreating at set play, amazingly only 1 for time-wasting. There could/should have been a couple of second yellows imo!
GoonerLou
It's just ridiculous that, despite Riley's comical decisions and lack of decisions on quite a few occasions, Hull still got 5 yellow cards: 2 for unsporting behaviour, 1 for dissent, 1 for not retreating at set play, amazingly only 1 for time-wasting. There could/should have been a couple of second yellows imo!
GoonerLou
I guess its hightime we learnt to accept that Wenger does know. He's human and I fully expect him to make mistakes, but his faith in this team seems fully justified to me now. Song that used to run around like a headless chicken is suddenly looking the part, its obvious Diaby is going to become some player once he becomes that little bit more consistent, Bendtner will also get their eventually, I can hardly wait for next season! Bring it on!
deledudu
I guess its hightime we learnt to accept that Wenger does know. He's human and I fully expect him to make mistakes, but his faith in this team seems fully justified to me now. Song that used to run around like a headless chicken is suddenly looking the part, its obvious Diaby is going to become some player once he becomes that little bit more consistent, Bendtner will also get their eventually, I can hardly wait for next season! Bring it on!
deledudu
Fabregas spit in the Hull assistant manager's face! How disappointing if its true.
gunnerkid107
I just said disappointing. I should of said disgusted and ashamed.
gunnerkid107
Fabregas spit in the Hull assistant manager's face! How disappointing if its true.
gunnerkid107
I just said disappointing. I should of said disgusted and ashamed.
gunnerkid107
Where did you hear that? Why would he even get involved? Because of all the crap in the media, one can only wait for more decent statements before even making a big deal of it.
Fabby69
gk where did u hear that? if true it puts him on track with another ex-captain who wore the same number.
G4L
Where did you hear that? Why would he even get involved? Because of all the crap in the media, one can only wait for more decent statements before even making a big deal of it.
Fabby69
gk where did u hear that? if true it puts him on track with another ex-captain who wore the same number.
G4L
Really Gkid?! Source please! I can imagine AW's frustrations and he really showed them today. But we won after all. Maybe there's some incidents off camera?
GoonerLou
Really Gkid?! Source please! I can imagine AW's frustrations and he really showed them today. But we won after all. Maybe there's some incidents off camera?
GoonerLou
Phil Brown mentioned it in the post-match interview on setanta. He sounded angry and bitter and we don't know all the facts.
jubair
Phil Brown mentioned it in the post-match interview on setanta. He sounded angry and bitter and we don't know all the facts.
jubair
Interview with Phil Brown and was just confirmed by the assistant manager himself
gunnerkid107
Interview with Phil Brown and was just confirmed by the assistant manager himself
gunnerkid107
Really doesn't surprise me with Cesc. Probably a super nice guy off the pitch, but when it comes to football he has always been a little devil. Remember when he spat in Ballack's face against Bayern Munich?
gunnerkid107
Really doesn't surprise me with Cesc. Probably a super nice guy off the pitch, but when it comes to football he has always been a little devil. Remember when he spat in Ballack's face against Bayern Munich?
gunnerkid107
GK, I'll be a bit careful repeating that accusation without further proof if I were you. The British press and Sky are not exactly our friends and none of them are reporting it yet, and for hacks who would invent controversies when it suits them, thats a bit odd.
deledudu
What a moron, probably will get the usual "FA will investigate allegations..." and nothing come of it. Unless they got some good evidence, then it might backfire. IF it happened ofcourse...
Fabby69
GK, I'll be a bit careful repeating that accusation without further proof if I were you. The British press and Sky are not exactly our friends and none of them are reporting it yet, and for hacks who would invent controversies when it suits them, thats a bit odd.
deledudu
What a moron, probably will get the usual "FA will investigate allegations..." and nothing come of it. Unless they got some good evidence, then it might backfire. IF it happened ofcourse...
Fabby69
And yes, I meant Brown is the moron obviously...
Fabby69
And yes, I meant Brown is the moron obviously...
Fabby69
How is Phil Brown a moron? Surely he wouldn't make this up! And I am only saying what I saw on Setanta Sports. So I have no liability in saying what I did.
gunnerkid107
How is Phil Brown a moron? Surely he wouldn't make this up! And I am only saying what I saw on Setanta Sports. So I have no liability in saying what I did.
gunnerkid107
They showed something of a spat between AW and their asst mgr before Brown came down to the bench. AW kept complaining about the time-wasting and unpunished fouls to the officials. But did something happen between the 2 camps? Brown was also fuming towards the end (well of course, when his plan of time-wasting their way to a win/replay was failing), maybe something had happened? I would imagine the whole Arsenal bench were angry, but Cesc really should be better. I hope there's an explanation to this.
GoonerLou
They showed something of a spat between AW and their asst mgr before Brown came down to the bench. AW kept complaining about the time-wasting and unpunished fouls to the officials. But did something happen between the 2 camps? Brown was also fuming towards the end (well of course, when his plan of time-wasting their way to a win/replay was failing), maybe something had happened? I would imagine the whole Arsenal bench were angry, but Cesc really should be better. I hope there's an explanation to this.
GoonerLou
When you have kids with passion, stuff happens, but I'm hoping they find no evidence even if its true, but Wenger has to discipline this petulant trait out of Fabregas, superb footballer, but he's got an awful lot of maturing to do if this is true. IF.
deledudu
Personally GK I don't believe a word that cheating Brown and his staff say.Sour grapes to me. Now sod away off out of our stadium you losers!
julieloveshenry4ever
When you have kids with passion, stuff happens, but I'm hoping they find no evidence even if its true, but Wenger has to discipline this petulant trait out of Fabregas, superb footballer, but he's got an awful lot of maturing to do if this is true. IF.
deledudu
Personally GK I don't believe a word that cheating Brown and his staff say.Sour grapes to me. Now sod away off out of our stadium you losers!
julieloveshenry4ever
Well he's not a moron for this allegation, just for his team performance and the whining on the sideline. If this is made up or exagerated, he's even a greater moron. That's all really.
Fabby69
Well he's not a moron for this allegation, just for his team performance and the whining on the sideline. If this is made up or exagerated, he's even a greater moron. That's all really.
Fabby69
Phil Brown does what is best for Hull City. Wenger does the same thing for Arsenal. FFS this is football, its not like your supposed to end up buddy buddy at the end. I have no problem with Brown for that reason. You do what you have to to win. But spitting in someones face in completely different.
gunnerkid107
Spitting in the guy's face blinded their team so much they got whupped from a winning position. Why can't people just lose with pride? H ow did the saliva affect their team,s performance? The FA and Premier League board must hold an inquest!
deledudu
Phil Brown does what is best for Hull City. Wenger does the same thing for Arsenal. FFS this is football, its not like your supposed to end up buddy buddy at the end. I have no problem with Brown for that reason. You do what you have to to win. But spitting in someones face in completely different.
gunnerkid107
Spitting in the guy's face blinded their team so much they got whupped from a winning position. Why can't people just lose with pride? H ow did the saliva affect their team,s performance? The FA and Premier League board must hold an inquest!
deledudu
What a moron is Brown- sore loser. SSN just reported the allegation. Hope AW comes out and calls him a dirty cheating time-wasting liar. Hope you get relegated.
julieloveshenry4ever
What a moron is Brown- sore loser. SSN just reported the allegation. Hope AW comes out and calls him a dirty cheating time-wasting liar. Hope you get relegated.
julieloveshenry4ever
As far as I know we never act as lame as Hull. Else I wouldn't even consider being a gooner. First taking every moment to win time even before 30 minutes of football and the lame attitude on every occasion. Then tackling Diaby fiercely (if it was on his chin, bye bye Diaby for this season) and complaining about the time passing by! They should silently go up north and some show respect for a football club. Besides the spat (which, as many of us, I still don't believe) Brown should just shut up.
Fabby69
As far as I know we never act as lame as Hull. Else I wouldn't even consider being a gooner. First taking every moment to win time even before 30 minutes of football and the lame attitude on every occasion. Then tackling Diaby fiercely (if it was on his chin, bye bye Diaby for this season) and complaining about the time passing by! They should silently go up north and some show respect for a football club. Besides the spat (which, as many of us, I still don't believe) Brown should just shut up.
Fabby69
I can't stand Phil Brown, who is a Sam Allardyce cronie, and I'm so happy we beat them. I remember when they scored against us when we lost earlier in the season and Brown turned around and started sticking his hands up to the Arsenal fans - but of course that's not provocative is it. Sod em - they can go back to Hull and get relegated (not coz I hate Hull, but coz of that knob Brown).
Gooner_Vin
I can't stand Phil Brown, who is a Sam Allardyce cronie, and I'm so happy we beat them. I remember when they scored against us when we lost earlier in the season and Brown turned around and started sticking his hands up to the Arsenal fans - but of course that's not provocative is it. Sod em - they can go back to Hull and get relegated (not coz I hate Hull, but coz of that knob Brown).
Gooner_Vin
Well not his chin, his shin naturally :p
Fabby69
Well not his chin, his shin naturally :p
Fabby69
Gk et al, I just read Phil Brown's comments verbatim on Setanta's site, and I can tell you, its the rants of a sore loser. He disputes the Myhill booking for time wasting and blames Wenger for the booking. Wenger is famous for his selective myopia, but Brown takes the crown. I'll be glad to spit in his face if he'll offer it!
deledudu
Gk et al, I just read Phil Brown's comments verbatim on Setanta's site, and I can tell you, its the rants of a sore loser. He disputes the Myhill booking for time wasting and blames Wenger for the booking. Wenger is famous for his selective myopia, but Brown takes the crown. I'll be glad to spit in his face if he'll offer it!
deledudu
deledudu, are you being serious about Diaby? He goes backwards in every game. The guy needs to improve more than any other player to get into our team. The guy is clueless. God knows what Wenger was thinking when he subbed Song off.
Tom14
deledudu, are you being serious about Diaby? He goes backwards in every game. The guy needs to improve more than any other player to get into our team. The guy is clueless. God knows what Wenger was thinking when he subbed Song off.
Tom14
Well Wenger says he's not worried, believe the Prof! And having read Brown's interview, it seems even less likely to be true. He first has a rant about everything else and then mentions it, as if it would be that minor if it would have truly happened. GG gooners! see ya
Fabby69
How dared Brown criticise Riley for 'succumbing to local pressure' and wrongly booking his keeper for time-wasting?! And that they didn't lose to Arsenal but 'a linesman decision and a ref's decision'?! That's beyond being a bad loser, they're pure lies! If anyone could say the ref favoured us in the game, he's either a great **** or he's hopelessly deluded! http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/03/17/Prem-Phil-Brown-reaction/gnid-44803/
GoonerLou
Well Wenger says he's not worried, believe the Prof! And having read Brown's interview, it seems even less likely to be true. He first has a rant about everything else and then mentions it, as if it would be that minor if it would have truly happened. GG gooners! see ya
Fabby69
How dared Brown criticise Riley for 'succumbing to local pressure' and wrongly booking his keeper for time-wasting?! And that they didn't lose to Arsenal but 'a linesman decision and a ref's decision'?! That's beyond being a bad loser, they're pure lies! If anyone could say the ref favoured us in the game, he's either a great **** or he's hopelessly deluded! http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/03/17/Prem-Phil-Brown-reaction/gnid-44803/
GoonerLou
Tom, have some faith, Diaby has regressed since his horrible injury, but you can still see the skill and promise in his play, he'll get their eventually Tom. I understand Brown's game, its his own way of creating a siege mentality to fire up his team, the spitting allegation took it a bit far though, and it came out as an after thought, an attempt at mud raking
deledudu
Tom, have some faith, Diaby has regressed since his horrible injury, but you can still see the skill and promise in his play, he'll get their eventually Tom. I understand Brown's game, its his own way of creating a siege mentality to fire up his team, the spitting allegation took it a bit far though, and it came out as an after thought, an attempt at mud raking
deledudu
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/comment-from-club-captain-cesc-fabregas Well Cesc is denying it, but he's not entirely accurate with his statement because, as has already been pointed out, he has spat on someone on a football pitch. Brown's post match tirade is a disgrace and the mark of a terrible loser and a ***** poor man, but if Cesc has spat at Horton he is just as bad and there is absolutely no excuse for it, not having it. But I'll need to see video evidence first.
Little Dutch
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/comment-from-club-captain-cesc-fabregas Well Cesc is denying it, but he's not entirely accurate with his statement because, as has already been pointed out, he has spat on someone on a football pitch. Brown's post match tirade is a disgrace and the mark of a terrible loser and a ***** poor man, but if Cesc has spat at Horton he is just as bad and there is absolutely no excuse for it, not having it. But I'll need to see video evidence first.
Little Dutch
He's a **** that Phil Brown. If Wenger had come out after a defeat and said these things we would be labelled as whingers and bad losers. There are over 50 cameras and untold photographers at the games so if Fabregas came on the pitch and spat in someones face there will be evidence. I seriously hope he didnt do it because I wont defend him but Phil Brown and his disgusting persona can ***** off regardless.
iceman10
He's a **** that Phil Brown. If Wenger had come out after a defeat and said these things we would be labelled as whingers and bad losers. There are over 50 cameras and untold photographers at the games so if Fabregas came on the pitch and spat in someones face there will be evidence. I seriously hope he didnt do it because I wont defend him but Phil Brown and his disgusting persona can ***** off regardless.
iceman10
With your team nearly at full strength you should win this one.
Thaibluefan
With your team nearly at full strength you should win this one.
Thaibluefan
Not sure about the ballack incident either based purely on youtube its inconclusive. unless someone has quotes from Ballack confirming it?
iceman10
Not sure about the ballack incident either based purely on youtube its inconclusive. unless someone has quotes from Ballack confirming it?
iceman10
Apparantly we(the fans) put pressure on the referee do book their goalkeeper. Oh wait, maybe he got booked for taking 20+ seconds on every goal kick from the 15th minute onwards. Brown is a tw**, but if fabregas has spat then i will be very dissapointed in him.
paul_ownz
Apparantly we(the fans) put pressure on the referee do book their goalkeeper. Oh wait, maybe he got booked for taking 20+ seconds on every goal kick from the 15th minute onwards. Brown is a tw**, but if fabregas has spat then i will be very dissapointed in him.
paul_ownz
is it true that in his first interview with Setanta Brown said Fabregas 'encroached on the pitch' and spat at his assistant manager, in the Sky interview he changed it to spitting at his feet in the tunnel?
G4L
is it true that in his first interview with Setanta Brown said Fabregas 'encroached on the pitch' and spat at his assistant manager, in the Sky interview he changed it to spitting at his feet in the tunnel?
G4L
Even if their were evidence and Fabregas was found guilty of spitting at the floor near his feet, realistically what kind of punishment could the F.A dish out. You dont score a goal by almost hitting the target...
paul_ownz
Even if their were evidence and Fabregas was found guilty of spitting at the floor near his feet, realistically what kind of punishment could the F.A dish out. You dont score a goal by almost hitting the target...
paul_ownz
If you can bear some more from Brown: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/fabregas-spitting-storm-has-beaten-hull-seething-1647444.html
GoonerLou
If you can bear some more from Brown: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/fabregas-spitting-storm-has-beaten-hull-seething-1647444.html
GoonerLou
It is true G4L, I watched live, and after Brown made that accusation Setanta found some footage of Cesc on the pitch apparently having words with Horton. No spitting can been seen though. When the acusations were first made I thought it might be true, Cesc has previous and I doubted whether someone would make such a story up to sully the name of a young player, but after seeing the accusations change so quickly from "spitting in his face on the pitch" to "spitting at his feet in the tunnel" all I can think is "liars".
Rocky7
It is true G4L, I watched live, and after Brown made that accusation Setanta found some footage of Cesc on the pitch apparently having words with Horton. No spitting can been seen though. When the acusations were first made I thought it might be true, Cesc has previous and I doubted whether someone would make such a story up to sully the name of a young player, but after seeing the accusations change so quickly from "spitting in his face on the pitch" to "spitting at his feet in the tunnel" all I can think is "liars".
Rocky7
They asked AW why he didn't shakes hi hand and Aw said"i came forward to shake his hand and there was no one there after looking around".
Youngest in Charge
They asked AW why he didn't shakes hi hand and Aw said"i came forward to shake his hand and there was no one there after looking around".
Youngest in Charge
If Phil Brown has made this up, he will forever be labeled a ****. The words I used to describe Cesc earlier would then apply to him exponentially.
gunnerkid107
If Phil Brown has made this up, he will forever be labeled a ****. The words I used to describe Cesc earlier would then apply to him exponentially.
gunnerkid107
no disrespect, but COME ON Hull, Newcastle and Man City...!
The Fear
no disrespect, but COME ON Hull, Newcastle and Man City...!
The Fear
JF - We've played Hull twice in the league buddy!!! lol
Rocky7
JF - We've played Hull twice in the league buddy!!! lol
Rocky7
You were lucky, very, very lucky to win this game - but to win the cup every team needs luck.
Thaibluefan
You were lucky, very, very lucky to win this game - but to win the cup every team needs luck.
Thaibluefan
 

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