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Manchester United vs. Arsenal

Old Trafford

3rd November, 2012


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Manchester United v Arsenal Match Preview

Arsenal travel to Old Trafford for the first time since their harrowing 8-2 defeat at Manchester United last August and have the added spice of facing ex Gunner Robin van Persie.

van Persie will probably dominate conversation and most of the chants too, but the fact is that it's a game Arsenal need to win to realistically call themselves a genuine title challenger.

Vital Quotes:

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has (probably forlornly) urged travelling supporters to forget about Robin van Persie when they visit Manchester this weekend.

'We cannot promote respect and then say 'look it is respectful on Saturday',' Wenger said.

'I hope it (reception) is a respectful one because he has played for us for eight years, and he has done very well for us.

'We campaign against discrimination, it was still the case last week so why should it not be the case this week?'

Meanwhile, his Manchester United counterpart Alex Ferguson has, probably wilfully, rather misinterpreted the sort of reception van Persie will get, ' "I think Arsène has laid his seed for his supporters in terms of respecting him," said Ferguson.

"If you think about all the former players who come back to Old Trafford, they always get a warm applause.

"I don`t think that will be a problem tomorrow, I think the fans will recognise the eight years he gave them and that will be nice."

Manchester United Team News:

The game comes too soon for Chris Smalling, who is training again following a broken foot. Phil Jones (knee), Shinji Kagawa (knee) and Nemanja Vidic (knee) are unavailable.

Manchester United (from); de Gea, Lindegaard; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Buttner, Valencia, Nani, Anderson, Giggs, Scholes, Cleverley, Fletcher, Carrick, Young, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Van Persie.

Player to watch: Robin van Persie

The away fans will chant about him being a rapist. He'll score. He'll probably let us know about it. Then everyone will whip themselves into a rage in apparent disbelief that a man could take umbrage about being called a rapist. Depressingly inevitable.

Arsenal Team News:

Wojciech Szczesny (ankle) and Kieran Gibbs (thigh) are training again, but not considered fit enough to play. Jack Wilshere is in line to start having been rested against Reading.

Abou Diaby (thigh), Tomas Rosicky (achilles), Lukasz Fabianski (ankle) are out, Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (ankle) faces a fitness test, Gervinho (ankle) is out for three weeks.

Arsenal (from): Mannone, Martinez; Jenkinson, Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Djourou, A.Santos, Arteta, Ramsey, Wilshere, Coquelin, Frimpong, Cazorla, Walcott, Chamberlain, Arshavin, Podolski, Giroud, Chamakh.

Player to watch: Santi Cazorla

Tom Cleverley had a pass completion rate of 65% against Chelsea on Wednesday night. If Arsenal have any chance of winning the game, you'd identify Cazorla, Wilshere and Arteta as being capable of getting a grip on the midfield.

United's defence can be got at and if Arsenal are to do that, Cazorla is going to have to produce. Whether he creates an opportunity for himself or a teammate. When a chance comes along, we are going to have to take it.

Match Facts & Stats

Arsenal have not won at Old Trafford since September 2006, when Emmanuel Adebayor's goal gave them a 1-0 victory.

United have 13 goals in their 4 home games in the league this season. An average of 3.25 per game.

The sides have met 193 times. Arsenal have won 67 times, United 84.

United have gone behind in each of their last three home games.

This is the 48th time Wenger and Ferguson have locked horns, with Ferguson leading by 21 victories to Arsene's 15.

Arsenal have fewer goals scored in the first 30 minutes of games than any Premiership side this season so far.

Ref Watch:

The referee will be Mike Dean. Cripes.

Match Prediction:

I'm afraid I can't see anything other than a United win. I think 2-0 and I think van Persie will score at least one of them.

Next Fixtures:

Arsenal play Schalke in Germany on Tuesday night, Manchester United go to Portugal to face Braga on Wednesday.

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The Journalist

Writer: Tim Stillman Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday November 2 2012

Time: 1:53PM

Your Comments

with Santos playing against Valencia, I do expect some kind of trashing, hope Koscielny plays CB and Vermaelen LB.
I don't think I can express just how badly I want us to win this game.
Honestly, I don't buy into this general attitude that we are in for a beating tomorrow. This is soccer and on the day, it is about who shows more desire and gets some luck. United, equally, have weaknesses just as we have. There will be initial nerves on both sides but when things open up, it will be anybody's game. We have a more mature side from the times Arsenal is caught on the break. I expect it to be close.
Hope Dies Last.
Paulo Gun
@Naijagunner agree with you there, getting sick of the 8-2 references. Quite frankly Utd's defence was just as ***** as ours in that match, only difference was (and this ended up being a major difference) was that they put away their chances and we didn't.
United have been defending horribly of late, it's just they've scored a lot of goals too. Hopefully we'll have our creative heads on to cause their defence some trouble.
I had a dream a few weeks ago that we went a goal behind but came back to win 2-1, might put a few quid on it ;)
Had a dream last night that we were 3-0 up at half time but then I got nervous knowing that United will really come at us in the second half and the game still wasn't safe! This is the game I hate losing the most. For me it still has that edge, obviously even more now that van pursey is there. I'd happily take a point. As Arseblogger says today, it'll be interesting how much they do to try and nullify Cazorla. I wouldn't be surprised if Jack puts in a tasty challenge on van pursey...
Very negative prediction there LD, I've stopped playing that game of pretending it will hurt less if you predict the defeat, if anything it just makes you feel like a cynical ***** when we turn up and thrash them! Belief or nothing. Come on you Gunners!!!
Good luck gooners.
Cheers FCB. What is your take on the game and our chances?
Before the game, Fergie is presenting today's referee Mike Dean with a gold watch, one that keeps the same time as his.
spu 4 life
Utd look like a strong team with plenty of goalscorers. TWO strikers upfront with Young cutting inside as a 3rd striker leaving Evra on the overlap for crossing-duties....THIS... is how to dominate teams and keep them under sustain pressure with a REAL threat and not prissy masturbation all around the penalty and back again.... 6th.
...penalty area, that is...;-)
0-2 and 10 men now.... Jacque shudda had a straight red no doubts about it. he looked at Evra's ankle then went in studs-up, a potential leg-breaker.
How has your tactical acumen worked to get you 3 points against Wigan today? Bet you dominated them on your turf:-)
Berg, you misread completely. Weird as this sounds, I didn't predict that to protect myself, but because I genuinely thought that would be the score. As it turns out, I wasn't far wrong.
Little Dutch
LD, fair enough.
I say again: I believe it was disrespectful to Arse for AVB to lose the game, just to tease Arse into thinking theyre still within a chance of 4th (or better).... its not nice, not nice at all and I apologise to you all on his behalf.

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