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Arsenal 2 - Manchester United 1

Premier League

Emirates Stadium

8/11/08 12:45

Attendance: 60,106

Referee: Coward Webb

Arsenal
2 - 1
Manchester United
Nasri 22, 48
 
Rafael 90
 
Venue: Emirates Stadium
 
Attendance: 60,106
The Teams
Almunia
 
 
78
 
van der Sar
 
 
Sagna
 
 
 
Neville
 
 
64
Gallas
 
 
 
Ferdinand
 
 
Silvestre
 
 
 
Vidic
 
 
Clichy
 
 
 
Evra
 
 
Walcott
 
 
78
 
Carrick
 
 
Fabregas
 
 
 
Park ji-Sung
 
 
Denilson
 
 
 
Berbatov
 
 
Nasri
 
 
 
Ronaldo
 
 
Diaby
 
 
86
 
Rooney
 
 
78
Bendtner
 
 
 
Anderson
 
 
72
Substitutes
Fabianski
 
 
78
 
Kusczak
 
 
Toure
 
 
86
 
O'Shea
 
 
Vela
 
 
 
Evans
 
 
Ramsey
 
 
 
Rafael
 
 
64
Song
 
 
78
 
Giggs
 
 
72
Wilshere
 
 
 
Tevez
 
 
78
Djourou
 
 
 
Nani
 
 
Game Statistics
15
Goal Attempts
23
5
On Target
6
5
Corners
6
1
Offside
2
18
Fouls
8
3
Yellow Cards
2
0
Red Cards
0
46.1
%
53.9
Comments...
What value are statistics eh? ManU dominated pretty well all the stats. Greater possession, passing success, tackle success, territorial advantage, goal attempts yet we won a pulsating game. What stats can't tell you is the value of the pattern of the game. Both managers would tell you that the first goal in these contests is a significant statistic in itself. That could have gone to either side but we got it. If you manage to go in in front at half time then you would wish to keep it tight for the first 20 minutes or so at the beginning of the 2nd half but your greatest wish would be to get an early second goal. Again we got it. The goals ensured that Nasri got man of the match though Denilson put in another sterling performance in midfield winning tackles and passing swiftly and efficiently (65 passes, 92% success, 4 balls won). But there aren't any stats that will tell you the contribution that Gallas made today. Many would rather chew on broken glass than acknowledge the man of the match contribution of this big player in a big game and there aren't any stats to show you that his contribution was all about making decisions. Making the right decision at the right time - which he did with almost total perfection today. Much of the failing in our young side is that they haven't mastered that decision making ability as yet. As important and telling as Cescs contribution was (56 passes, 77% success, 1 assist, 4 assist attempts, 2 balls won) it was one where his decisions let him down at times. He wasn't alone. It is a price that you can expect to pay with young players but that the talent and ability is there in great abundance is beyond doubt. ManU might feel a little disappointed with the result because by and large their players made the right decisions but in that frustrating way that we are all too familiar with key moments in the game just didn't go their way.




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Writer: Amos Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday November 8 2008

Time: 6:40PM

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There is only one stat that matters today. And I couldn't be happier. I'm not going to kid myself or lie to others that I think we have what it takes to win the league, because we don't, but what we did prove today is that we still have the foundations to build a team that CAN win a title in the future. Now if we can just play like that against the "smaller" teams.
Rocky7
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08/11/2008 19:53:00

Chim chimeney, chim chimeney chim chim cher-ee, Who needs Ronaldo wen we've got Nasri? Awful, I know, but it makes me smile.
GunnerBlood
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08/11/2008 20:12:00

I was really tempted to vote for Den and even Gallas. But I've followed the majority and voted for Nasri. This boy came to a new country, adapted quickly to the new team, took just a few mins to score his first goal, I thought all we needed to see was whether he'd perform well against big teams. He did, with no fear whatsoever, very emphatically. This is the type of game he joined us from France for and he didn't only promise but has started to deliver straightaway. So my MotM is SAMIR!!!
GoonerLou
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08/11/2008 20:22:00

Gunnerblood that is truly awful you should be shamed of your self, but then again it makes me smile too.
Armory
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08/11/2008 20:31:00

Am I the only one to notice the name of the ref?
Armory
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08/11/2008 20:32:00

No I saw that one too!! A little nickname we've given him here at Vital since the Carling Cup final!
Rocky7
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08/11/2008 20:34:00

awesome game today .. perhaps one of the best i have seen in a long time .. congratulations to arsenal and nasri for a job well done.
ArabianKnight
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08/11/2008 20:38:00

AK I did not see the game but from what I hear it was a fantastic game, end to end stuff, if only we can start playing like that against the smaller teams.
Armory
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08/11/2008 20:42:00

We need a Willie-O, you need a Willie-O, lets cheer for Willie-O, sing for my Willie-O, Ashley Cole has a phone, stuck up his arse hole, he needs a Willie-O, weve got a Willie-O. Now THAT, is a bad chant!
Tom14
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08/11/2008 21:16:00

Congrats!Great win and display.Today, I saw you the first time to play for the result and not only for the sake of playing.
German Blues Brother
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08/11/2008 21:22:00

just asking a question n would like honest answers. do you think the big4 is the worst its been in a few years. looks like the big4 all have a few weak links that can be exploited this season. not saying your all not strong just not as strong as past seasons. was good 2see berba back 2his lazy best2day!!!!!
dspurs64
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08/11/2008 21:58:00

HOWARD THE COWARD YES. THE MAN WAVED AWAY CARRICK'S CYNICAL CHOP ON DIABY AS HE WAS ABOUT TO STORM INTO UNITED'S BOX. THERE WAS CLEARLY CONTACT ON DIABY'S TRAILING FOOT. AND AS FOR VIDIC TRYING TO UNDRESS NASRI IN THE 2ND HALF?? HOWARD THE COWARD REFUSES TO MAKE THESE CALLS AGAINST UNITED IN THESE BIG GAMES.
Will-i-am10
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08/11/2008 22:02:00

YES YOU MAY HAVE A POINT THERE DSPURS64.......THEN AGAIN YOU CAN APPLY THE OPPOSITE LOGIC TO THE BOTTOM SIDES. YOUR LOT BOLTON NEWCASTLE AND STOKE SEEM TO BE THE STRONGEST RELEGATION BATTLING TEAMS I HAVE SEEN IN YEARS !
Will-i-am10
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08/11/2008 22:05:00

I think Gallas raises for the big games, but goes missing when faced with the smaller teams. Its perhaps him underestimating the smaller teams or not caring to pay enough attention on homework for the smaller teams. Knowing their strength's and tactics. Had he done half his homework on the smaller teams, probably we would have lost a few lesser points. Perhaps we should not play him when faced with these smaller and lesser teams like Spurs, Hull etc2.
nevidimka
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08/11/2008 22:32:00

did you know that samir nasri used to play cage football? i think thats why he can cope with the physical side of EPL
gooner_till_i_die
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08/11/2008 22:39:00

We dont have what it takes the win the league Rocky7? what is the what, may I ask? If team can play with consistency they can win any league if you ask me. Quite negative if yo ask me. I hate that!
Paulsito
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08/11/2008 22:56:00

My last post went missing so I'll try again.Paulsito I think you answered your own question your self, consistency is the problem, we dont have it and therefore will not win the title.
Armory
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08/11/2008 23:39:00

No I didnt Armory, consistency is gained and I think this team will start to play focused from now on. If you guys dont thats your business but you need to believe that the team will learn from the early season failures. The joke is, if I told you that I think Man U would win the title you would not doubt it,even though we beat them and they are not playing too well either. Please! Have some faith in the team!!!!
Paulsito
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09/11/2008 00:24:00

Too many prophets in the football world for my liking. Be positive and support the team! peace out and God Bless!
Paulsito
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09/11/2008 00:27:00

i think celtic done youz a favour today
steve bhoy
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09/11/2008 00:30:00

Not really. Only 4 of the players who started against Celtic also started this match.
Amos.
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09/11/2008 00:40:00

Amos you once told me a territorial stat of Denilson, can you find that one for this game. I thought he did really well in the defensive midfield role. He didn't venture out of that position often and that is what led to his success in my opinion.
gunnerkid107
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09/11/2008 01:02:00

Paulsito were you get the idea from that we will now be consistant from here on escapes me I am and have been a gunner for more than 30 years but I can stil be honest with my self and others, we simply dont have the consistency to win the title and the win against utd to day changes nothing and proves nothing, we won becouse we took our chances and they did not.
Armory
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09/11/2008 01:06:00

Denilsons positional stats in terms of balls played for this game were 13% attacking third, 57% central third and 30% defensive third. That probably had as much to do with the amount of possession and attacking that ManU had as any change in his role. A case of having to adjust to the circumstances of each match. It does show that he is capable of doing it though.
Amos.
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09/11/2008 01:17:00

Great win for you today, and a must win game. so grats on that. young team and still up there. ignore the nobs on tv talkin sht. they're just happy to hear themselves.
TheSmog
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09/11/2008 03:12:00

hey guys, a spurs supporter here. just wanted to congratulate you guys on an awesome performance and result against those mancunian yobs. god, i hate those guys!
hardcore_spurs
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09/11/2008 03:56:00

Paulsito:(don't change) Paul /Simmo try not to be confident in case they put the mockers on us. In their hearts they like all of us want us to win everything. I wear rose coloured specs and always say we will, even when we are down. The final outcome, of course we will, but that's someone who wears those beautiful rose coloured glasses. I just love it when most say we have no chance and we really really put on a display such as this. Agree one hundred per cent keep the faith. Go you gunners
alwaysgunner
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09/11/2008 04:29:00

comedy hour on the whl: 'We have class all over the pitch and I can't see anyone walking into this side unless they are absolute world class, which they are not at pompey. pompman Boy oh Boy I hope mancity take them down a peg or two.
alwaysgunner
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09/11/2008 04:36:00

Cockaduddle is here.Credit where it is due you did the bizz.A week is a long time in football isnt it?Well done and the dream is still alive,but for how long?Took me a while to reply due to the time diff over here in oz so too all you goons who thought i would runaway and hide think again.COYS.
cockaduddle
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09/11/2008 07:51:00

Just to reply to a few posts on a different thread,i like not many other spuds can take as much as you dish out to me so for Iceman,Juleslouvshenryblahblah annd unLuckeys bring it on.I am clued up on history and am an honest football fan.I respect all football fans and opions(even the goons) but please dont treat me like i would disappear at the slightest hint of a resurgence from Arsenal.Fire away.
cockaduddle
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09/11/2008 08:08:00

I just pointed out how many times you have conceeded four (or more) goals at home in recent times. You have to admit the sheer number is embarrasing?
iceman10
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09/11/2008 08:28:00

Bet you wish you could play them every week, seem to get you going
Tiny T
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09/11/2008 08:59:00

Fair comment Iceman.But why is it embarassing,in most of those games we have scored the equivalent apart from Man utd 5-3 and of course Le Arse 5-4.
cockaduddle
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09/11/2008 09:22:00

Yeah right, Cockaduddle now stay on topic please lol
GoonerLou
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09/11/2008 09:32:00

credit where credit's due.....great win......from what I have heard and read it was a great game to watch too.......well done !!!
lincolnblue
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09/11/2008 09:38:00

Denilson did a Flamini job today. He tracked most of the runs made by Rooney & Berbatov & boy did he kept them quite yesterday? I hope he has found his role now. It would be a big sacrifice on his part because he'll have to contain his attacking instinct to allow Fab to venture forward. The game shows an enormous difference of playing without a full time defensive midfielder and having one. It made every positions performed better. The back four are protected & our offensive players played with much more freedom. The challenge for Denilson is to prove that he can do the Flamini job consistently. He may not be a tenacious but he is certainly more skillful. He would be ahead of Song for the job because he is more mobile and pacey. On Nasri, I am very glad that we traded a non-shooting attacking midfielder with one who always scored from outside the box and can shoot with both feet!
Joe_@**
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09/11/2008 10:01:00

it was a good day for arsenal against man u. not only did we beat them 2-1, tony adams beat roy keane in a clash of the managers 2-1 as well
gunner8890
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09/11/2008 10:04:00

cockadud, yu dun need to reply for other threads right here cuz nobody spoke a word about yu here, this topic is about arsenal beating united, n just cuz no one takes yu seriously on vital spuds, i know yu want attention and ppl to take yu seriously, but it ain't gonna happen here, so buzz off..
luckys_10
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09/11/2008 10:06:00

hardcore_spurs - thanks for the comments. I have to say that it's no coincidence that Arsenal have been involved in some of the best games the last few seasons, even though we haven't won all of them. Last season we went to Old Trafford and IMO absolutely outplayed Man Utd in a pressure game where we had to win for the league. The difference then was we didn't take our chances. Yesterday we did.
Gooner_Vin
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09/11/2008 10:32:00

United's Mike Phelan admitted after the match that the game had been "too open" for his aging defence. He didn't mention Neville by name. But your young runners were far too pacy for the United ball-watchers. When you needed to go into anextra gear you were always able to do it, but United only had second gear and were relying on possession to wear you down.
Sindbad
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09/11/2008 10:37:00

just arrived back in sunny Cornwall, after an horrendus drive but it was all worthwhile to be at the Emirates for the 5th time to watch the greatest team in the history of the game perform eat your hearts out all you disbelievers and detractors, perhaps now you will show a bit of loallty to both the team and le boss ARSENAL RULE
cornish gooner
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09/11/2008 11:59:00

Good morning Armory, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I dont care how long you have been watching football (by the way I have been watching it or just as long, so?)because consistency is gained from mental tougness and learning from your mistakes. This is not a physical problem, I believe the Spurs match will be a blessing in disguise while you believe it is a sign of more to come - dont blame me for your own negativity, oh sorry... REALITY. I can and will never get with that attitude, it sucks, really! Get Positive please, the youngsters need the fans to believe also.
Paulsito
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09/11/2008 13:30:00

alwaysagunner, I will and same to you. Thanks!
Paulsito
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09/11/2008 13:32:00

I'm watching the game back now on ArsenalTV and there is a moment just before Webb bottled the Nasri penalty decision. Gallas makes a brilliant headed clearance with Berbatov lurking on the backpost. From the resulting throw in, Denilson brilliantly dispossesses Giggs in the area. It neatly summed up the pairs immense contribution to the game in the space of about 15 seconds.
Little Dutch
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