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Everton 1 - Arsenal 1

Premier League

Goodison Park

28/1/2009 20:00

Attendance: 37,097

Referee: Andre Marriner

1 - 1
Cahill 61
van Persie 92
Venue: Goodison Park
Attendance: 37,097
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Such is the fragility of our confidence at present that again we put out a team designed to nullify the opposition strengths rather than play to ours. That had to be abandoned once we went a goal down and Denilson moved back into the centre to enable Bendtner to play on the right with Eboue behind him. None of our midfielders had a particularly good game. Diaby was as good as any for us (43 passes 86% complete 1 assist, 1 assist attempt 2 balls won)but no one came near the 71 passes with 91% accuracy that Arteta produced - or won as many balls as he did. Once again van Persie came up with the goods and continued his own personal statistic of assisting in or scoring every single one of our goals in the month of January. To think that some were claiming we don't get two games in a row from him. We need to abandon his link man role and play him as an out and out striker. He is far and away our most potent attacking threat. Unfortunately limited squad options don't make that a simple decision. With 5 wins and 3 draws in the last 8 outings prior to this game,conceding just 3 goals en route, Everton were in obdurate form going into this match. Given our ambitions it will be seen as two points dropped but it's a worthy point all the same.

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Writer: Amos Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday January 29 2009

Time: 12:08AM

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Amazing statistic on van Persie. It's unimaginable to think were we would be without him. He drops more into the midfield now than he needs to because he feels that he has to take on some of the creative role in the absence of Cesc or any other major creative force in the centre midfield.
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29/01/2009 00:15:00

Van Persie (noun) - an individual of exceptional talent and a habit of performing great acts in the face of adversity
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29/01/2009 00:35:00

I've got to say I'm pretty dissapointed by your efforts today, first Arsenal side in a long time to come to Goodison and have no interest in playing football until you went behind. Adebayor seems to have gone from a superb player, to a bloody useless one this last year. Every time he would compete with Jags he just fouled him instead of trying to actually win the ball, he offered absolutely nothing for our defence to worry about, whereas last season he would of been a major threat. As for your midfield first half, to say it was unbalanced is the understatement of the year, and they just didn't seem to care whether they won the ball or not - no passion at all. In the end I'm pretty dissapointed with a draw as your lot were woeful, but went into the game thinking a draw would of been a cracking result with our injury problems.
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29/01/2009 00:35:00

You're not telling us anything new EvertonMike....
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29/01/2009 00:39:00

The draw wasn't a bad result given our injury problems either. It's all very well to criticise our attacking intent but we played a higher line than Everton and despite shading possession you only had 50.3% territorial advantage so much of that possession was in your own half. With two shots on target yourself you could just as easily ask how much football, given that you were at home, Everton wanted to play.
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29/01/2009 00:44:00

PLaying 4-6-0 is not likely to create a huge territorial advantage. I'm willing to bet we massivly outdid you possesion wise in the middle third of the pitch, I haven't looked it up so could be wrong but I doubt it. Our only striker is Anichebe - imagine Francis Jeffers but worse... So we play Cahill and Fellaini in advanced roles, so our only threat is from crossing/set plays - so we're not going to have shed loads of shots either. Stats generally mean very little, and I'd say injuries would hit us a lot harder than you too, since we only have 19 players not including youths when everyones fit (thats counting Valente and VDM and they're both past it).
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29/01/2009 00:52:00

I honestly had seen no problem with the lineup, only that I thought it'd make sense to have Diaby on the right and Den in the middle. That said, despite the perception that it might have been too defensive on our part, it's away to the Goodison Park and Everton had been on a good, unbeaten run. Even with that lineup, I thought I'd expected better from Ade and Diaby who played in their 'natural' positions - I wouldn't blame Den as he's no winger and we always knew that. Tbph I don't think Everton created a lot either, even when they were enjoying more time on the ball in the 1st half. I'm also curious how the individual stats look like for the front 6 (for different reasons).
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29/01/2009 00:55:00

If you were playing 4-6-0 than why decry our attacking intent? The whole purpose of crowding the midfield and defending deep is to nullify our attack. I think that we should have put out a more attacking side as I said above but I can understand why we thought it was as important not to lose tonight as it was to win. There is a reason why you have only conceded 3 goals in 8 games. Criticising us for your success in negating what attack we had seems to bit wrong footed. Limited options or not what you are doing is working for you.
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29/01/2009 00:59:00

It's not like we have a choice about who to play up front is it? We play as attacking as we can without playing someone *****er than *****. It's not hard to play against our system, but the long ball you tried in the first half is the most ridiculous attempt at doing so I've seen yet. It would be like Brazil going to the reebok and trying to play long ball against Bolton. I appreciate your missing a few of your more attacking midfielders, but there really was no need on playing 3 defensive midfielders against us.
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29/01/2009 01:07:00

Diaby and Nasri would be seen as more attacking midfielders but frankly we don't have much else. Eboue would be the only other 'recognised' midfielder available. The only other option would have been to play Nasri, Denilson. Diaby and Eboue. Other than that we have only kids like Wilshere, and Ramsey.
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29/01/2009 01:20:00

Nah Mike, Diaby is supposed to be a creative midfielder, he's even played behind one striker in the hole before. Denilson does a bit of both in midfield and he's quite versatile, hence put out wide. Song's primarily a DM. So Nasri and Diaby and half of Den were supposed to create chances, of which they didn't do enough. That's where our disappointment comes from, or mine anyway. Like Amos said, other options would've been Eboue (a 'RM' who could probably more provide defensive balance than attacking prowess), Ramsey (an 18yo who had a game to forget vs Cardiff before) and Vela (a 19 yo who's one-footed and inexperienced in facing strong, defensive teams). That's why I felt we couldn't fault the starting lineup too much, except possibly swapping Diaby and Den. But still we didn't create enough.
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29/01/2009 01:29:00

That explains the choice of midfield a bit then, I always thought Diaby was a DM. I do only get to see Arsenal 5 or 6 times a season for a full game, and he's done nothing of note in any of those games going forward this season lol. One possible alternative to what Wenger did would perhaps be ( i know this sounds more defensive, but I think it would of offered more balance) play Nasri and RVP on the wings, with Denilson, Diaby and Song in a central 3. I know RVP is best up front, but he played pretty deep today anyway but seemed to stay centrally. Denilson was awful on the wing, but seems to usually be a decent player - seems a waste to have him on the right.
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29/01/2009 02:25:00

I sometimes wonder about us. Everyone seems to want to bag us even our own fans. Of course we wanted the three points, but its not as if we are playing the bottom half of the table, Everton are just sitting behind us. How many teams have snatched that odd goal in the last seconds against us? We have our best player Ces unavailable and has been over the past number of games and without the use of Edourdo , Tommy and Theo. I wish sometimes people would chill out. We are at the moment on an unbeaten run, lets hope it stays that way.
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29/01/2009 07:15:00

Diaby's pass completion stats are a complete misnomer because they don't detail the dozens and dozens of times a game he takes an incredibly heavy first touch and then loses the ball. He has the worst first touch of any Arsenal player in the Wenger era, is the least alert player I have ever seen mentally, ALWAYS rocking back on his heels and not anticipating, receives the simplest pass, miscontrols it and plays himself into trouble. The guy plays with so little interest, it's infuriating because you can tell there is some talent there and that he could be of some use if a) he had a touch becoming of a pro footballer and b) he gave a *****. I had this horrible thought midway through the second half after watching him lose the ball in his own half and not bother to chase back. I thought to myself, would he look out of place in a Bolton shirt? I came to the horrible conclusion that he wouldn't (not least because his tackling is very poor and he seems to kick someone in the air at least once a game). On the bright side, a moment of magic from the one player in the starting line up last night capable of producing it. RvP had a quiet game overall (though he and Ade had nothing but long, hopeful balls to go on), but he produced a real moment of quality and is beginning to quell the biggest doubters. i.e. me.
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29/01/2009 08:57:00

We are just hanging on boys and girls, we are just hanging on.Astn Villa will hit a rough patch, we need to be ready to profit. It reminds me of the lasagna-gate season where we spent months trailing Spurs only to pip them at the end. No Henry this time though. Come on Arsenal!
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29/01/2009 09:11:00

van Pizzle seems to be the only shinning light in our team at the minute. The first time he seems to have had an injury free season (please dont let me have jinxed it) and he's been our best player this campaign. If we dont get out of this slump soon we'' definately be playing Wafer cup football next season, and we need to pick it up soon because our end of season run in is ******** horrendous.
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29/01/2009 09:26:00

Great ball in from Diaby for the goal though. Bit like the Nasri ball to RvP against Liverpool I think. Nobody in our midfield played well which to some extent is credit to Everton but largely due to a lack of balance that has been there all season.
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29/01/2009 09:56:00

Royal Variety Performance yet again! Denilson is wasted on the wing, why not just play Eboue? If there are still Arsenal fans out there who thinks we need a DM more than a creative midfielder and winger I will concede losing all faith in Arsenal fans.
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29/01/2009 10:43:00

I agree with the stats about Diaby - he was very poor, and its frustrating to see the simple things done badly. A draw was the proper result, and we didnt do enough to win it. Ade was also disappointing.
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29/01/2009 12:25:00

Rocky I thought i made up the name Van Pizzle and only used it with my friends. So 1) I used it on here before and you picked up on it, 2) We are on the same wave lenght 3) I heard it elsewhere and in my own mind i made it up. Strange
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29/01/2009 14:11:00

Van the Man, has step -up these last few months, Adebayor should take a leaf out of Robin's book has Adebayor has step-down a few levels.
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29/01/2009 19:23:00


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